It is the high RPMS that is actually killing the driveshafts, notice on the rpm gauge that he's probably @ 8,000 rpm. The shaft is already under major pressure from being at 125+ but when you add an engine going at full blast and the vibrations from it... it's not going to look to pretty. Had to help my friend put on a new driveshaft for his 2012 V6 and we saw this video... instantly figured out it's the RPMS.
Moral story is: If you go 120+ the maximum RPM should be like 3,000-4,000.
Given how hard it is to get info on a car that is only a year and a half off, I expect some big changes for the original pony with an evolution towards more sports oriented and less gentleman's comfort. The trend seems to be more from less. While the V8 is not going anywhere I expect the V6 to come more into it's own. With America, Australia, and Europe all contributing this will be the first truly world Mustang. Given that I expect the V8 performance only holdouts to lose some traction.
My 1997 SVT Cobra Convertible could run these speeds without even breaking a sweat, until it tops out at 152MPH, stock and right off the showroom floor. Even the new Mustang GT 5.0 cannot do that, since they are governor limited at 145MPH. That's a joke too! The new Buick is faster then that!
@jonkolo13 The only fail I see, (and I admit it is fail), was Ford's assumption that people would not want to use the V6 powered Mustang on track days. How often in the real world will you run sustained speeds above 75mph in America? Even the German Autobahn is getting speed limits. Reality is 112mph leaves plenty of tolerance for a highway system that maxes out at 75mph.
Of course I see the track potential in the corners and for that reason am inclined to agree with you.
@piwright42 As far as the potential in corners, yes, definitely. I saw a video where the new V6 beat last years GT even while bumping the governor multiple times, which was the only thing that prevented it from also beating the 370Z! They need to move it up to about 130, at least on performance package cars. It's almost like Ford was afraid to make the new GT look bad compared to the V6! I would like to see a new driveshaft and raised speed limit on the V6 for 2013. I would get one.
@jonkolo13 Totally agree. On cylinder bank less is that much more weight behind the front axles. Ford has come a long way with this frame and the V6 or even a very high performance SVO four could really find a nice as a closed track car. Leave the V8 options for the drag fans I say. Yesh and that is from a life long V8 fan.
Still a good video to get a little more from is Q&A: Plans for the Next Mustang, (watch?v=y5PcQR_TI5A).
@piwright42 Lightweight gas saving driveshaft! On a 305HP MUSTANG! ARE YOU KIDDING ME! WHAT A STUPID IDEA FORD!!!! JUNK! As far as getting an aftermarket shaft, that will NOT fix the problem unless it is made out of carbon fiber, and nobudy makes one yet. Nobudy advertises a one piece shaft for these RPM's yet. That's why the BOSS driveshaft has a center support bearing and 2 short shafts in order to prevent the flex due to the driveshaft's rotational mass @ high speeds.
@jonkolo13 Why only carbon fiber and why only a two piece "European style" drive shaft? For that matter the traditionally long wheel base of American cars means taht as early as 1958 Chevy Impalas featured a center supported two piece drive shaft.
The critical speed of a drive shaft assembly depends on shaft length, weight, diameter, and rpm. While I agree that carbon fiber would reduce rotational mass the U-joint is still the most complex part of the assembly and where a failure should occur.
@piwright42 The Mustang V6 driveshafts are actually breaking at high RPM's. They are not failing at the U-Joints. You can see plenty of pictures on the net.
@jonkolo13 I warrant that my final comment was speculation, that was why why I used the word should. Now about my first two questions?
Back in 1982 my dad had a 1956 F100 that was powered by a 5liter that produced a lot more than 305 horses. The custom single piece drive shaft he had fabbed for it held fine though several drag races. That was before carbon fiber hit the as I recall.
Besides this is not a fail at all. Ford made it so the car would not go above 113.
@piwright42 I'm sure this driveshaft is ok for drag racing, just not high speed.
The fact that Ford made the Mustang so it would not go above 113 is a fail in itself. It literately has a slower top speed then a new Fiesta or Focus! What a joke!!!
i love all this Ford hate, please next time get your ___________(fill in the blank) and take it over what the factory says can be done and then tell me everything is fine. Any idiot can hear the failure about to happen. I can show any video of a brand new _______________ being totaled by a driver driving into a light...doesnt mean its the cars fault
@hedrick5286 its not the same, the gt requires a different one, and the v6's are limited to a slower speed, people have been using the tuners to remove the limiter and this has been happening. $500 will save you a whole lot if they just swap out the driveshaft for a stronger one
THE SAME EXACT THING HAPPENED TO ME, except i got up to 145 catching a previous V8, its a two piece driveshaft very poor decision on a 300+hp motor, have a shaftmasters solid alumnium on there now and 145 very little vibration, im still sketched out to go any faster tho that shit breaking at that speed is no joke, we got lucky it didnt come through the cabin
@BLACKSHEEPcp10 Like i said i like mustangs but the fact that a drive shaft would actualy brake and brake a whole lotta other stuff along with it just is not good. My point about the charger is that its not gonna brake as easy. As far as the mustang beating charger thing mustang weighs less and probly had a manual trans but ive also seen r/ts beating gt's. Both great cars but gotta give it to charger it is a family sports car where a mustang or a camaro is not.
In a statement to Autoblog, Ford said that the Mustang V6 is "the ultimate in fuel economy and performance," noting that owners looking for more speed should look toward the Mustang GT with its 412-horsepower V8, heavy-duty two-piece drive shaft and variety of rear axle ratio choices. The Mustang GT is speed limited to 145 mph from the factory.
@jonkolo13 As it turns out, the 305-horsepower and 280-pound-feet of torque 3.7-liter V6 Mustang is built with a 2.73 rear gear ratio and a lightweight, one-piece driveshaft that's engineered to toe the line between fuel economy and performance. That driveshaft is part of the recipe that allows the coupe to yield 31 mpg highway – it simply isn't built to handle the type of speeds the owner in the video after the jump submitted it to.
@jonkolo13 Correct the V6 is limited to 112-115 factory for a reason, take the limiter off and your mileage will vary with the DS and if it breaks or not, and as far as two piece DS and "heavy-duty" well thats to be seen, cause its common that one piece is the way to go....
The sad thing is that Ford didn't take into consideration the most popular modification to these cars, the rear gear ratio. This car had Ford's factory optional 3:31, so if people start putting 4:10's or even 4:30's in these cars they are going to start poppin at just over 100MPH. STUPID!
I can see why people say ford messed up because honestly the new v6 is saposed to compare to the older gt so you figure sure i could go faster then 118mph lol. I have a 2012 charger v6 that tops out about 125. Thats why you go mopar or no car! Lol no offense i like ford to but that just turned me away from them.
@vinnieg9910 there is videos of our 2011+ v6 mustangs beating r/t's in the quarter. personally id just get a damn driveshaft and go slay some fat mopars.
@vinnieg9910 I do not think there's any offense to this, however your prob still governed on the charger like most cars and it most likely can go way faster top end than 125, the V6 stang can do 155+ with the limiter off, but would not suggest doing it with a two piece DS and stock rated tires =)
yeah i didn't buy my 2012 v6 to do these speeds on the street. i'd love to take it to the track, but if you did your research everyone on every forum would advise you upgrade some of your parts to ensure that this kind of stuff doesn't happen.
this just isn't the intended use for a stock mustang, so it busted. i don't really see how its ford's fault that some guy removed the device that protects his vehicle.
i own a 2011 v6 mustang and owned a 2004 gt, 2005 and 2010 v6 mustang. i bet ford put the same drive shafts in all four of those cars. i wouldnt doubt that they put the same drive shaft in my 2011 v6 as they put in the 2011 gt500.
@SolarBlackShine nope, he removed the governor so he voided the drivetrain warranty. it sucks, but there's a reason that thing is on there. he should have upgraded to an aftermarket driveshaft..
@kemorc well if u tell them it broke at 135 of course not cus theyll know u used a tuner, no reason to say anything but it broke under normal driving conditions at 80mph, fully covered <---
@SlyMan50 They are going to be able to tell by the extent of the damage. That, and they should be able to pull the information up until the failure from the "black box"
@kemorc there is no computer to check for how fast u were going thats a myth lol, and his damage at 135 was WAY less than mine at 145, my exhaust got a ding in it thats about it
@SlyMan50 how do you think they were able to get the reports from all the runaway toyotas??? The event data recorder logs it. It is not a myth, it is fact.
@kemorc on some cars, a dealership isnt going to go through hours of work to get to it to fix a 2 piece driveshaft on a car running 300+ hp to the motor, thats why it is not necessary to tell them what exactly happened only that the car is broke down
@SlyMan50 If the driveshaft breaks at a slower speed, they'll be able to tell by how bad of a break it was. If you are beating on the car, such as you describe, they are going to tell due to the extend of the damage to the part that fails. Soon as they see the damage, all they have to do to deny service is pull the info on the EDR. It's not like a valve cover leak... a driveshaft failing on a new car is almost always going to be abuse.
@kemorc good thing i didnt buy a BRAND NEW CAR from you cus id prlly just knock u out if u came at me with that bullshit, good thing i bought it from Ford cus they replaced it no questions asked AFTER seeing 145 DS damage, and thanks for elaborating me on your thought process, not much there, oh and btw not every car in the world is built with the ECU in the same place :)
Unlike the old days nothing is over built today as the costs will not allow for it , If you are going to build a V6 model to work in V8 territory then plan on spending the money to upgrade the brakes, drivetrain and suspension to handle it. Otherwise leave the speed limiter alone or spend the right money at the dealer to buy the right model Mustang! The old muscle cars had huge horsepower and no brakes to stop them so we upgraded them and did not complain to Ford they built it wrong.
@Cyclone429scj Ford already offers all of that in the V6 performance package! Unfortunately, the driveshaft was forgotten. They need to add it for 2013.
Ford built the car with 305HP for a reason. Obviously not to prevent people from having that power. The only reason it was limited to that speed is because of the tire ratings they sell their cars with or else they would have made it 149 like the GT. If anything, it's a defeat because I highly doubt Ford's first thought when deciding a driveshaft was, "Let's put in one that will be be limited to 120 for collapse since this car isn't fast enough for anything." It's not pushing past any limits.
I have a 2012 v6 mustang and love it! Dissapointing that ford markets this as a performance/economic car when the driveshaft fails at 120 mph. There are those that will take it to the track and remove the mph limiter. To have this fail at a controlled environment is highly risky and can cost lives. I praise this person who created this video and made sure there is awareness. This save lives. I hope ford fix these issues and retain "high quality standards" or no longer will i buy ford cars again
@MrAndylittleton Hello? He's doing this ON THE STREET. NOT THE TRACK. NOT a controlled environment. I know he's raising awareness, but this is NOT the way to do it, no exceptions.
I don't care how he does it. The fact of the matter is that these piece of crap driveshaft starts failing at 120 mph which is unexcusable by ford "High Quality Standards" . Ford needs to recall these. I would hate to see them start making products that fail at 75 mph next b/c "the speed limit is 65" . Hope you get the point
@MrAndylittleton Don't get me wrong, I totally agree that Ford really f***ed up on this one. It's frankly inexcusable. I think the point we disagree on is HOW the problem came to be realized. I just can't see how it's okay to be doing this kind of experiment on the street.
Thats very scary! My cousin in Munich drives his VW Golf Gti at over 230km/h (140mph) almost every day for the past 10 years without any issues. This video has convinced me to not buy anything built by Ford because a drive shaft failing at only 135mph is completely unacceptable. I also emailed this video to my friend who was just about to purchase a V6 Mustang, he is now planning on getting a Genesis 3.8 instead.
@losteffekt Just saying, but why not just get a GT instead? THAT'S a performance car. Besides, the only problem this car had was the crappy driveshaft. You can easily replace that for a better aftermarket driveshaft. I'm not too sure on where your friend lives, but I really dont know how many times on a daily basis you will go 135 unless you live in Germany. I used to live in Mississippi and my 08 GT handled high speeds no problem, but going 135 on a daily basis is not necessary.
@therealsaint1 I mentioned in my previous post that my cousin lives in Munich, a major city in Germany, home of BMW. He regularly hits triple digit speeds on his way to work while driving on the autobahn. This mustang would not be able to survive daily use in Germany, I agree you can switch drive shafts, but why couldn't Ford just install a proper one at the factory, why even use such an inferior quality drive shaft to begin with? I also heard all Mustangs are using Chinese made transmissions!
It appears that the V6 Mustang's driveshaft will fail @ ~135MPH on cars that are equipped with the optional 3:31 rear gear , and @ ~ 160MPH on standard 2:73 equipped cars. I'm sure they go out of balance and start making noise/vibration way before that.
@nathanjeffrey92 There are already three different videos on YouTube that show them breaking! These three just happened to be caught on camera, so if three have already been captured on film, I would be willing to bet that there have been many more failures that were not filmed! I'd say there is definitely an issue that needs to be addressed ASAP!
its strange i did the 260 kmph witch is more than 135 mph few times in kuwait and nothing happened that video is realy strange . there is something wrong
Unusual for a driveshaft to fail at speed, typically it's under high torque loading during acceleration. I'd love to see some pics of the damage afterwards on this, I'm betting it failed right in the middle from flex at high rpm instead of the typical type of failure from torque loading which you'd usually get at the joint. Apparently there have been a couple of these that have failed on a chassis dyno as well so this is not an isolated incident. A video on the sidebar shows a failure on a dyno
wow. probably made in china. Fuck thats scary really.. its one thing to grenade a ds launching the car but for one just to let go at 135 in a 300 hp car? ive got 100+ passes on my stock ds....
I had 2001 Camaro SS and I removed the factory rev limiter and revved it to 12,000 and the motor exploded.
WHY THE FUCK IS CHEVY SO SHITTY. The camaro is a performance car!!!!! It should be able to rev that high!!! FUCK PIECE OF SHIT CHEVY!!!!
Just because I removed a manufactuer installed limiter, greatly exceeded it and my car suffered damage because of it doesn't mean it is my fault. IT WAS CHEVYS!!!! FUCK YOU CHEVY!!!!!!!
I think the issue here is a car weighing as much as a battleship with the same aerodynamic properties of a brick and huge wagon wheels, having 300+ Hp pushed down a single cheaply made part. Modern mustangs are just for posing in, not high speed performance and maneuverability, what what this idiot thinking?
(1) Ford Mustangs are not shit, (2) American cars beat the ever living shit out of jap ricers and euro trash any day of the week! I dare ANY of you, to name me a European car that doesn't actually spend 6 out of 7 days in the shop! And even a stock ricer for > 25K w/ a removed limited is going to falter when pushed past its threshold speed. Blame be placed on this dumbshit, who bought a V6, removed the limiter, and pushed it harder then the OEM intended. Also, its probably just a random defect.
The only thing that could have made this video better, was if he was going through a school zone... filled with puppies... and pediatric cancer patients.
and that when it blew, they all laughed. alot. even the puppies.
Hmm. People on here bashing Ford claiming they are junk, but according to Ford, if the speed limiter was indeed lifted on this car, one the warranty is void, and two you pushed the well past it's stock limits. It's not Ford or the parts maker's fault, it's the fault of the owner/driver. You get what you deserve.
I'm not going to stick up for Ford on this one until all the facts are out.
But people are saying that the driveshaft is too light for this sort of thing. Didn't this guy do any research before taking off his governor? Or even before buying the vehicle?
I'm sure a bit of common sense and prudence on his part could have prevented this from happening. This applies to any car modification, regardless of brand.
@USGiorgi, I Not Kiddin The 2011 V6 Was Built For Fuel Economy And Not Speed. That Driveshaft Is All Aluminum I Believe And Is Not Meant To Handle Excessive Speed. This Guy Is Dumb For Takin The Limiter Off And Trying To Push The Limits Of His Mustang. If He Wanted To Go Fast He Should Have Bought A GT
@abacacus That's the dumbest thing i've ever heard. You can't build a crappy driveshaft that may explode 135+mph and hope everyone will keep their limiters on, especially giving the new V6 300 horses, i'm pretty sure not everyone will be a little pussy like you and keep it stock.
How is it this guys fault? Who the fuck buys a mustang limited to 112? Come on guys... There are older cars, like the G35 or the rsx-s, which are limited to 145, 155.
Shit like this is the reason people don't buy American cars. Believe me, I want the new V6 stang, it's fast and economical. But things like this are killing U.S car manufacturing.
All it takes is one bad experience with a product. Unless Ford issues a recall, I suggest people stay away from these cars. Who knows what else is wro
@bmwdinamo Who the fuck buys a car to go out on the STREET and run two to three times the POSTED SPEED LIMIT? Now granted, I did the same shit when I WAS A KID. It's the Guy's fault because he knowingly made a modification to the car that resulted in this happening without taking the proper steps to ensure shit like this didn't happen.
ALL regular race car drivers ALWAYS change out their driveshafts. And a clown who thinks his stock car is a race car, is NOT a professional driver!
@Vanakatherock Way to attack the driver instead of Ford. Now be serious, do you really believe that people buy mustangs to drive the posted speed limit, keep it completely stock and never take it mast 2,500 rpms? Exactly. It's not the drivers fault; its Ford's for building such an unreliable, dangerous car. I'm sure if he wanted to cruise along at 55mps he would of got a Preus or a corolla.
@bmwdinamo Dude, the car was built for cruising and fuel economy. 300+HP and 31MPG. Somethings aren't going to be the same as what you find on the GT, GT500, or Boss. Driveshaft included. It's a failure mainly on the owner of the cars fault for not performing proper modifications.
Why do you honestly think they put a "limiter" on a vehicle in the first place? To prevent things like this from happening, of course! Exceed the cars limits and expect catastrophic failures.
@KIMBOSLICE66666 Who's crying? I'm making a point. And in reference to the GTR, NO SHIT SHERLOCK. What kind of an idiot would deny that fact? Go back to your Xbox, you troll.
@bmwdinamo Also, search for, on youtube, "Death of a Trans Am" and watch the first video of a guy absolutely obliterating the clutch on the car. Then tell me if it's Pontiac's fault, the clutch makers fault, or the drivers fault?
@Vanakatherock Not a fair comparison in the case of the modified Trans-Am.
While the limiter is there for tire safety reasons typically, Ford still should have built the driveshaft to handle the car's top speed when it advertises the V6 as an economical choice for a performance car.
@philyt The only difference was the amount of modifications performed on each car. Technically the only thing we know about this Mustang is that he lifted the speed limiter. We don't know what other mods may or may not have been performed. What's to say the programmer used to lift the limiter, he didn't also bump the power up 50 or so horsepower as is very much possible? We don't know the history of this car.
This & the Trans Am both were modified, & both exceeded the limits of a part
@philyt The entire point of the matter is simple: a factory stock vehicle's parts always have limits. If you modify your car in any way and then push your vehicle past those stock limits, catastrophic failure will occur. Ford put an economical drive shaft in this Mustang for economy reasons while still allowing room for performance. It's not advertised as a race car, it's only advertised as a sports car with excellent fuel economy. Failure is placed on the driver.
@Vanakatherock I see your new to automobiles, that's OK.
There's a massive difference between a near-stock Mustang, and that fully built T/A. There's also a term known in engineering as a safety factor. Things are designed to withstand (x) amount of times their needed strength. Drive shafts in particular follow this rule. You never hear about other cars shitting driveshafts with regular bolt-ons, much less something as minor as a tuner (Which won't even give you 50 hp).
@philyt And it's also very clear that you missed the entire point of my comparison to that Trans Am. The entire point was, both the Mustang driver here and the Trans Am driver there made modifications, no matter the size difference, to their cars "knowingly" and then proceeded to make some type of performance style run, burnout/top speed run, and then discovered the hard way what the hell happens when you exceed the limits of a certain part.
@Vanakatherock There's no such thing as an "economical" driveshaft. A light weight, balanced driveshaft is a plus for both, but there's no gain in economy by sacrificing strength.
It's a base model that had more power than the "muscle" cars of ~20 years ago, including LT1 and early LS1 cars. Both of which that don't destroy driveshafts at their top speeds,or with bolt ons, It's marketed as a performance car, and has been presented as such by reviewers.
@philyt One. I'm not new to cars. I know exactly what I"m talking about. Two, it's obvious you have no clue about the "limits" of certain parts. The limiter was put on the car for a reason. Obviously the reason was the driveshaft and/or tires. This car owner knowingly removed the limiter from his car, and the end result was, after exceeding the limits of the driveshaft, it exploded.
Ford knew what the limits were, so they put the limiter on the car for a reason.
@Vanakatherock Yes, but it took a video of a failure like this to expose the issue/low performance limits of this car. The majority of people especially Mustang owners would not expect to have a failure like this.
@jonkolo13 Yes, it took a video of the driver performing an illegal act after having performed a modification to his car which resulted in the driver pushing the vehicle past the limits of a part on the car, all the while putting himself in danger and voiding his warranty. Sure, Ford may have put a better drive shaft on the car, but the V6 Model is not made for racing without first performing proper modifications.
@philyt The driver should have learned from this experience: study your car before pushing it above it's limits. You need to know, as someone who modifies their car, how far you can push it with certain stock parts left alone. Driveshaft included.
The sheer fact that people are blaming Ford is disgusting. Had he bolted a supercharger on to a stock engine, and then blew the engine, y'all probably would have done the same thing citing: "Ford should have known people would modify cars"
@philyt It's fortunate that the driver is still alive after all of this. But it's unfortunate that the ignorance of so many people is coming into light in this subject. Ford chose the best Driveshaft for the purpose of this car. It was only, yes ONLY, advertised as a budget performance car by the car magazine rags around on the internet. Every commercial I seen on it was touting the 31mpg 305HP V6. Nothing ever said, by Ford, about it's "racing" performance.
@bmwdinamo What the driver did was FAR more dangerous than anything Ford may have done - especially with the driver having disabled and exceeded the speed limiter Ford installed that would've prevented this in the first place with that kind of rotational force and resistance, doofus.
You're lucky to be alive; however, Ford should have realized that shade tree tuners would have remove the speed limiter. Ford should have engineered a better drive shaft and a better transmission. Further, they need to source it here in America and not from China.
guaranteed shit himself!
puffNtough760 24 minutes ago
This is why V6 muscle cars are stupid.
RayG707 1 day ago
@supremo502
Mustang V6 has speed limited to 120mph so, no warranty whatsoever
pedrocor46 4 days ago
Did the warranty cover it?
supremo502 5 days ago
holy crap...that scared the shit out of me
tomtom5418 1 week ago 2
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It is the high RPMS that is actually killing the driveshafts, notice on the rpm gauge that he's probably @ 8,000 rpm. The shaft is already under major pressure from being at 125+ but when you add an engine going at full blast and the vibrations from it... it's not going to look to pretty. Had to help my friend put on a new driveshaft for his 2012 V6 and we saw this video... instantly figured out it's the RPMS.
Moral story is: If you go 120+ the maximum RPM should be like 3,000-4,000.
JoeA320Pilot 1 week ago
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JoeA320Pilot 1 week ago
Shitty...its a brand new car Wtf??!!
mcluvinisluvin 1 week ago
FUCKING LOL.
Apoc897 2 weeks ago
don't remove the limiter, drive shaft stays intact
seems simple to me
KLX1990 2 weeks ago
Given how hard it is to get info on a car that is only a year and a half off, I expect some big changes for the original pony with an evolution towards more sports oriented and less gentleman's comfort. The trend seems to be more from less. While the V8 is not going anywhere I expect the V6 to come more into it's own. With America, Australia, and Europe all contributing this will be the first truly world Mustang. Given that I expect the V8 performance only holdouts to lose some traction.
piwright42 2 weeks ago
My 1997 SVT Cobra Convertible could run these speeds without even breaking a sweat, until it tops out at 152MPH, stock and right off the showroom floor. Even the new Mustang GT 5.0 cannot do that, since they are governor limited at 145MPH. That's a joke too! The new Buick is faster then that!
jonkolo13 2 weeks ago
@jonkolo13 The only fail I see, (and I admit it is fail), was Ford's assumption that people would not want to use the V6 powered Mustang on track days. How often in the real world will you run sustained speeds above 75mph in America? Even the German Autobahn is getting speed limits. Reality is 112mph leaves plenty of tolerance for a highway system that maxes out at 75mph.
Of course I see the track potential in the corners and for that reason am inclined to agree with you.
piwright42 2 weeks ago
@piwright42 As far as the potential in corners, yes, definitely. I saw a video where the new V6 beat last years GT even while bumping the governor multiple times, which was the only thing that prevented it from also beating the 370Z! They need to move it up to about 130, at least on performance package cars. It's almost like Ford was afraid to make the new GT look bad compared to the V6! I would like to see a new driveshaft and raised speed limit on the V6 for 2013. I would get one.
jonkolo13 2 weeks ago
@jonkolo13 Totally agree. On cylinder bank less is that much more weight behind the front axles. Ford has come a long way with this frame and the V6 or even a very high performance SVO four could really find a nice as a closed track car. Leave the V8 options for the drag fans I say. Yesh and that is from a life long V8 fan.
Still a good video to get a little more from is Q&A: Plans for the Next Mustang, (watch?v=y5PcQR_TI5A).
piwright42 2 weeks ago
I'm glad I have a Camaro.
kracke23 2 weeks ago
Needs to be First On Race Day. How else are you suppose to get the thing running. Oh sorry about that. Couldn't resist.
05front 3 weeks ago
The V6 car is electronically limited to 112mph because they put a light weight, easy to spin up, hence gas saving drive shaft on it.
Conclusions:
A> Yay this engine can really put out if you reflash.
B> Yay it "could" be a minor track day hero.
C> If you wanna do A and B right get a stronger drive shaft. Plenty of shops can fab a safe one up for you for less than 500 dollars.
Hate on. Personally I have planed to get a 2014 V6 for the last four years. This video changes nothing. :)
piwright42 3 weeks ago
@piwright42 Lightweight gas saving driveshaft! On a 305HP MUSTANG! ARE YOU KIDDING ME! WHAT A STUPID IDEA FORD!!!! JUNK! As far as getting an aftermarket shaft, that will NOT fix the problem unless it is made out of carbon fiber, and nobudy makes one yet. Nobudy advertises a one piece shaft for these RPM's yet. That's why the BOSS driveshaft has a center support bearing and 2 short shafts in order to prevent the flex due to the driveshaft's rotational mass @ high speeds.
jonkolo13 3 weeks ago
@jonkolo13 Why only carbon fiber and why only a two piece "European style" drive shaft? For that matter the traditionally long wheel base of American cars means taht as early as 1958 Chevy Impalas featured a center supported two piece drive shaft.
The critical speed of a drive shaft assembly depends on shaft length, weight, diameter, and rpm. While I agree that carbon fiber would reduce rotational mass the U-joint is still the most complex part of the assembly and where a failure should occur.
piwright42 3 weeks ago
@piwright42 The Mustang V6 driveshafts are actually breaking at high RPM's. They are not failing at the U-Joints. You can see plenty of pictures on the net.
jonkolo13 3 weeks ago
@jonkolo13 I warrant that my final comment was speculation, that was why why I used the word should. Now about my first two questions?
Back in 1982 my dad had a 1956 F100 that was powered by a 5liter that produced a lot more than 305 horses. The custom single piece drive shaft he had fabbed for it held fine though several drag races. That was before carbon fiber hit the as I recall.
Besides this is not a fail at all. Ford made it so the car would not go above 113.
piwright42 3 weeks ago
@piwright42 I'm sure this driveshaft is ok for drag racing, just not high speed.
The fact that Ford made the Mustang so it would not go above 113 is a fail in itself. It literately has a slower top speed then a new Fiesta or Focus! What a joke!!!
jonkolo13 2 weeks ago
That's Ford "built Ford tough" quality for you :)
bpl0807 3 weeks ago
i love all this Ford hate, please next time get your ___________(fill in the blank) and take it over what the factory says can be done and then tell me everything is fine. Any idiot can hear the failure about to happen. I can show any video of a brand new _______________ being totaled by a driver driving into a light...doesnt mean its the cars fault
whiteandnerdytuba 3 weeks ago
why did this happen???????
jorgevelezkid33 4 weeks ago
1 its a FORD = FIX ON REPAIR DAILY
2 HE SHITTED HIM SELF AND CUT THE CAMERA OFF
3.HE PROBABLY CRIED WHEN HE FOUND OUT THE HIGH REPAIR COST
jon204 4 weeks ago
Would have never happened with the Chevy HHR
casemods 1 month ago
FORD- Found on Road Dead.
This is a perfect example of why I will never own/buy a ford again.
sjalabs 1 month ago
The car is built to go fast. They should expect you to do that.
hedrick5286 1 month ago
It's a high performance car. It has the same drive shaft as the gt. there is no excuse for it breaking.
hedrick5286 1 month ago
@hedrick5286
actually its different than the GT shaft
bottle2lip 1 month ago
@hedrick5286 its not the same, the gt requires a different one, and the v6's are limited to a slower speed, people have been using the tuners to remove the limiter and this has been happening. $500 will save you a whole lot if they just swap out the driveshaft for a stronger one
lowkeyneon 3 weeks ago
THE SAME EXACT THING HAPPENED TO ME, except i got up to 145 catching a previous V8, its a two piece driveshaft very poor decision on a 300+hp motor, have a shaftmasters solid alumnium on there now and 145 very little vibration, im still sketched out to go any faster tho that shit breaking at that speed is no joke, we got lucky it didnt come through the cabin
SlyMan50 1 month ago
@BLACKSHEEPcp10 Like i said i like mustangs but the fact that a drive shaft would actualy brake and brake a whole lotta other stuff along with it just is not good. My point about the charger is that its not gonna brake as easy. As far as the mustang beating charger thing mustang weighs less and probly had a manual trans but ive also seen r/ts beating gt's. Both great cars but gotta give it to charger it is a family sports car where a mustang or a camaro is not.
vinnieg9910 1 month ago
In a statement to Autoblog, Ford said that the Mustang V6 is "the ultimate in fuel economy and performance," noting that owners looking for more speed should look toward the Mustang GT with its 412-horsepower V8, heavy-duty two-piece drive shaft and variety of rear axle ratio choices. The Mustang GT is speed limited to 145 mph from the factory.
jonkolo13 1 month ago
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@jonkolo13 As it turns out, the 305-horsepower and 280-pound-feet of torque 3.7-liter V6 Mustang is built with a 2.73 rear gear ratio and a lightweight, one-piece driveshaft that's engineered to toe the line between fuel economy and performance. That driveshaft is part of the recipe that allows the coupe to yield 31 mpg highway – it simply isn't built to handle the type of speeds the owner in the video after the jump submitted it to.
jonkolo13 1 month ago
@jonkolo13 Correct the V6 is limited to 112-115 factory for a reason, take the limiter off and your mileage will vary with the DS and if it breaks or not, and as far as two piece DS and "heavy-duty" well thats to be seen, cause its common that one piece is the way to go....
eclypse3d 1 month ago
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The sad thing is that Ford didn't take into consideration the most popular modification to these cars, the rear gear ratio. This car had Ford's factory optional 3:31, so if people start putting 4:10's or even 4:30's in these cars they are going to start poppin at just over 100MPH. STUPID!
jonkolo13 1 month ago
I ment 120 not 125 lol but thats better then the stang plus i bet chagers driveshaft would hold up at higher speeds
vinnieg9910 1 month ago
I can see why people say ford messed up because honestly the new v6 is saposed to compare to the older gt so you figure sure i could go faster then 118mph lol. I have a 2012 charger v6 that tops out about 125. Thats why you go mopar or no car! Lol no offense i like ford to but that just turned me away from them.
vinnieg9910 1 month ago
@vinnieg9910 there is videos of our 2011+ v6 mustangs beating r/t's in the quarter. personally id just get a damn driveshaft and go slay some fat mopars.
BLACKSHEEPc10 1 month ago
@vinnieg9910 I do not think there's any offense to this, however your prob still governed on the charger like most cars and it most likely can go way faster top end than 125, the V6 stang can do 155+ with the limiter off, but would not suggest doing it with a two piece DS and stock rated tires =)
eclypse3d 1 month ago
And thats why Ford limits it at like 117 or some shit LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
silverspec 1 month ago
what was your pucker factor? pls respond...
TheNewwt 1 month ago
i wanna c the damage
mikecameli 1 month ago
yeah i didn't buy my 2012 v6 to do these speeds on the street. i'd love to take it to the track, but if you did your research everyone on every forum would advise you upgrade some of your parts to ensure that this kind of stuff doesn't happen.
this just isn't the intended use for a stock mustang, so it busted. i don't really see how its ford's fault that some guy removed the device that protects his vehicle.
inthesupernovashadow 1 month ago
Ford quality!
LifeSizeHD 1 month ago
i own a 2011 v6 mustang and owned a 2004 gt, 2005 and 2010 v6 mustang. i bet ford put the same drive shafts in all four of those cars. i wouldnt doubt that they put the same drive shaft in my 2011 v6 as they put in the 2011 gt500.
TheAdamLaneProject 1 month ago
Please tell me warranty covers it.
SolarBlackShine 1 month ago
@SolarBlackShine nope, he removed the governor so he voided the drivetrain warranty. it sucks, but there's a reason that thing is on there. he should have upgraded to an aftermarket driveshaft..
inthesupernovashadow 1 month ago
@SolarBlackShine Warranty will not cover it when you bypass the "governor".
kemorc 1 month ago
@kemorc It will if you revert it back first, then tell them you unplugged the battery checking things out =)
eclypse3d 1 month ago
@kemorc well if u tell them it broke at 135 of course not cus theyll know u used a tuner, no reason to say anything but it broke under normal driving conditions at 80mph, fully covered <---
SlyMan50 1 month ago
@SlyMan50 They are going to be able to tell by the extent of the damage. That, and they should be able to pull the information up until the failure from the "black box"
kemorc 1 month ago
@kemorc there is no computer to check for how fast u were going thats a myth lol, and his damage at 135 was WAY less than mine at 145, my exhaust got a ding in it thats about it
SlyMan50 1 month ago
@SlyMan50 how do you think they were able to get the reports from all the runaway toyotas??? The event data recorder logs it. It is not a myth, it is fact.
kemorc 1 month ago
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SlyMan50 1 month ago
@kemorc on some cars, a dealership isnt going to go through hours of work to get to it to fix a 2 piece driveshaft on a car running 300+ hp to the motor, thats why it is not necessary to tell them what exactly happened only that the car is broke down
SlyMan50 1 month ago
@SlyMan50 If the driveshaft breaks at a slower speed, they'll be able to tell by how bad of a break it was. If you are beating on the car, such as you describe, they are going to tell due to the extend of the damage to the part that fails. Soon as they see the damage, all they have to do to deny service is pull the info on the EDR. It's not like a valve cover leak... a driveshaft failing on a new car is almost always going to be abuse.
kemorc 1 month ago
@kemorc good thing i didnt buy a BRAND NEW CAR from you cus id prlly just knock u out if u came at me with that bullshit, good thing i bought it from Ford cus they replaced it no questions asked AFTER seeing 145 DS damage, and thanks for elaborating me on your thought process, not much there, oh and btw not every car in the world is built with the ECU in the same place :)
SlyMan50 1 month ago
@SlyMan50 And FYI, it doesn't take "hours" to get vital information, it is actually a relatively quick process.
kemorc 1 month ago
@kemorc you should probably never drive a vehicle, cus youll probably tattle on yourself when something goes wrong lol
SlyMan50 1 month ago
@SlyMan50 I used to be a mechanic, it is easy to tell when it is from abuse and/or neglect.
kemorc 1 month ago
Unlike the old days nothing is over built today as the costs will not allow for it , If you are going to build a V6 model to work in V8 territory then plan on spending the money to upgrade the brakes, drivetrain and suspension to handle it. Otherwise leave the speed limiter alone or spend the right money at the dealer to buy the right model Mustang! The old muscle cars had huge horsepower and no brakes to stop them so we upgraded them and did not complain to Ford they built it wrong.
Cyclone429scj 1 month ago
@Cyclone429scj Ford already offers all of that in the V6 performance package! Unfortunately, the driveshaft was forgotten. They need to add it for 2013.
jonkolo13 1 month ago
pants were shat that day
AndoCommando3 1 month ago
i wanted to see the car do flip after flip after flip...with the body smashed on the road like a tomato...{no offense.}
LawrenceLugar500 1 month ago
POS American Cars !!
nltankontop 2 months ago
Ford built the car with 305HP for a reason. Obviously not to prevent people from having that power. The only reason it was limited to that speed is because of the tire ratings they sell their cars with or else they would have made it 149 like the GT. If anything, it's a defeat because I highly doubt Ford's first thought when deciding a driveshaft was, "Let's put in one that will be be limited to 120 for collapse since this car isn't fast enough for anything." It's not pushing past any limits.
TheHalsifer 2 months ago
Haha a v6 mustang, that is why if you want to buy a mustang the only way to go is to get a v8 gt
Frostylete 2 months ago
I have a 2012 v6 mustang and love it! Dissapointing that ford markets this as a performance/economic car when the driveshaft fails at 120 mph. There are those that will take it to the track and remove the mph limiter. To have this fail at a controlled environment is highly risky and can cost lives. I praise this person who created this video and made sure there is awareness. This save lives. I hope ford fix these issues and retain "high quality standards" or no longer will i buy ford cars again
MrAndylittleton 2 months ago
@MrAndylittleton Hello? He's doing this ON THE STREET. NOT THE TRACK. NOT a controlled environment. I know he's raising awareness, but this is NOT the way to do it, no exceptions.
jaeminseo 1 month ago
@jaeminseo
I don't care how he does it. The fact of the matter is that these piece of crap driveshaft starts failing at 120 mph which is unexcusable by ford "High Quality Standards" . Ford needs to recall these. I would hate to see them start making products that fail at 75 mph next b/c "the speed limit is 65" . Hope you get the point
MrAndylittleton 1 month ago
@MrAndylittleton Don't get me wrong, I totally agree that Ford really f***ed up on this one. It's frankly inexcusable. I think the point we disagree on is HOW the problem came to be realized. I just can't see how it's okay to be doing this kind of experiment on the street.
jaeminseo 1 month ago
Fix it again Tony
TheLordofShell 2 months ago
it broke because its automatic :P
donoManC 2 months ago
LOL that scared me.
Why dont you show us the aftermath?
rforracing 2 months ago
Thats very scary! My cousin in Munich drives his VW Golf Gti at over 230km/h (140mph) almost every day for the past 10 years without any issues. This video has convinced me to not buy anything built by Ford because a drive shaft failing at only 135mph is completely unacceptable. I also emailed this video to my friend who was just about to purchase a V6 Mustang, he is now planning on getting a Genesis 3.8 instead.
losteffekt 2 months ago
@losteffekt Just saying, but why not just get a GT instead? THAT'S a performance car. Besides, the only problem this car had was the crappy driveshaft. You can easily replace that for a better aftermarket driveshaft. I'm not too sure on where your friend lives, but I really dont know how many times on a daily basis you will go 135 unless you live in Germany. I used to live in Mississippi and my 08 GT handled high speeds no problem, but going 135 on a daily basis is not necessary.
therealsaint1 2 months ago
@therealsaint1 I mentioned in my previous post that my cousin lives in Munich, a major city in Germany, home of BMW. He regularly hits triple digit speeds on his way to work while driving on the autobahn. This mustang would not be able to survive daily use in Germany, I agree you can switch drive shafts, but why couldn't Ford just install a proper one at the factory, why even use such an inferior quality drive shaft to begin with? I also heard all Mustangs are using Chinese made transmissions!
losteffekt 2 months ago
It appears that the V6 Mustang's driveshaft will fail @ ~135MPH on cars that are equipped with the optional 3:31 rear gear , and @ ~ 160MPH on standard 2:73 equipped cars. I'm sure they go out of balance and start making noise/vibration way before that.
jonkolo13 2 months ago
You're not alone man, mine did the exact same thing. I though a bomb went off in my car.
Ford wouldn't fix it due to "abuse".
jasonhilton 2 months ago
Big WOOP!!! One mustang out of the millions out there has a bad drive shaft. Does that really make every other ford out there suck?
nathanjeffrey92 2 months ago
@nathanjeffrey92 There are already three different videos on YouTube that show them breaking! These three just happened to be caught on camera, so if three have already been captured on film, I would be willing to bet that there have been many more failures that were not filmed! I'd say there is definitely an issue that needs to be addressed ASAP!
jonkolo13 2 months ago
Built Ford tough
maniac4gm3 2 months ago
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its strange i did the 260 kmph witch is more than 135 mph few times in kuwait and nothing happened that video is realy strange . there is something wrong
looseyourzlf 2 months ago
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looseyourzlf 2 months ago
I have a 2011 Buick Regal Turbo and I got it up to 157 and had no problems I don't know was up with Fords
rawlrawls2 2 months ago
135mph? thats all it took to explode a driveshaft? come on ford
Ls7colorado 2 months ago
Confirmation that the V6 is the cheerleaders car. Who buys a 6 in a pony car anyway? For shame.
Kraziken0 2 months ago 2
Unusual for a driveshaft to fail at speed, typically it's under high torque loading during acceleration. I'd love to see some pics of the damage afterwards on this, I'm betting it failed right in the middle from flex at high rpm instead of the typical type of failure from torque loading which you'd usually get at the joint. Apparently there have been a couple of these that have failed on a chassis dyno as well so this is not an isolated incident. A video on the sidebar shows a failure on a dyno
flibidyflob 2 months ago
You could hear the driveshaft at about 120..... I think most people wouldn't have pushed it much farther than that....
NameWasInvalid 2 months ago
lol
They say that 98% of all Fords made in the past decade are still on the road today. The other 2% actually made it home.
RiceRacerH8R 2 months ago
I hate when that happens...
marshknute 2 months ago
well someone did the RD for everyone, get a driveshaftshop to fab something up for ya, take off rev limited and go out like a boss. lol.
JusSkott 2 months ago
HA-HA......
tenthlmnt 2 months ago
Mustang on 140 mph, ur planning on dying?
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1quickWS6 2 months ago
wow. probably made in china. Fuck thats scary really.. its one thing to grenade a ds launching the car but for one just to let go at 135 in a 300 hp car? ive got 100+ passes on my stock ds....
1quickWS6 2 months ago
that's awesome
lifehackertips 2 months ago
the engine spoiling actually has a nice beat to it
shaboopie12 2 months ago
I had 2001 Camaro SS and I removed the factory rev limiter and revved it to 12,000 and the motor exploded.
WHY THE FUCK IS CHEVY SO SHITTY. The camaro is a performance car!!!!! It should be able to rev that high!!! FUCK PIECE OF SHIT CHEVY!!!!
Just because I removed a manufactuer installed limiter, greatly exceeded it and my car suffered damage because of it doesn't mean it is my fault. IT WAS CHEVYS!!!! FUCK YOU CHEVY!!!!!!!
kipka2 2 months ago
@kipka2 Honestly all of what you said makes you sound like a dumb ass.
raymancouldbe 2 months ago
That seemed kinda slow for 300hp accelerating above 80mph.
vaultsoferowid 2 months ago
*clapping slowly and loudly*
peterhejlejensen 2 months ago
How did that happen??
Plasticwin 2 months ago
lucky this thing did catapult him if it stuck in the ground.
punkenduro 2 months ago
I think the issue here is a car weighing as much as a battleship with the same aerodynamic properties of a brick and huge wagon wheels, having 300+ Hp pushed down a single cheaply made part. Modern mustangs are just for posing in, not high speed performance and maneuverability, what what this idiot thinking?
benbennit 2 months ago
@benbennit hahah well said
DriftUltimatum 2 months ago
You've been shafted.
benbennit 2 months ago
Plastic u joints, nylon coated bearings. Payments of $395 a month. I'd be pissed off.
MixQuisite 2 months ago
Fix On Race Day
Graeme234 2 months ago
Found On Road Dead.
ATVRider6840 2 months ago
Hahahahahaha oh my god I wonder what the driver was thinking
Mailbocks 2 months ago
few minutes later found on road dead..
LOL @ fords and what not
Che1seabluesdrogba11 2 months ago
Scared the crap out of me lmao.
D0mSupra 2 months ago
You do the crime you pay the time
Bluenoser613 2 months ago
Everyone blames ford for this. This was a simple cause and effect something you learn in the 1st grade.
Cause: He took off the limiter
Effect: He fucked up his car.
Simple.
A + for everyone!
TJC450 2 months ago
(1) Ford Mustangs are not shit, (2) American cars beat the ever living shit out of jap ricers and euro trash any day of the week! I dare ANY of you, to name me a European car that doesn't actually spend 6 out of 7 days in the shop! And even a stock ricer for > 25K w/ a removed limited is going to falter when pushed past its threshold speed. Blame be placed on this dumbshit, who bought a V6, removed the limiter, and pushed it harder then the OEM intended. Also, its probably just a random defect.
EMxeros 2 months ago
The only thing that could have made this video better, was if he was going through a school zone... filled with puppies... and pediatric cancer patients.
and that when it blew, they all laughed. alot. even the puppies.
keep it on the track, moron.
TheStig827 2 months ago 6
Hmm. People on here bashing Ford claiming they are junk, but according to Ford, if the speed limiter was indeed lifted on this car, one the warranty is void, and two you pushed the well past it's stock limits. It's not Ford or the parts maker's fault, it's the fault of the owner/driver. You get what you deserve.
Vanakatherock 2 months ago
I hope you wore your brown pants that day...
hebemis 2 months ago
lol...failed ford as always....
gameboi559 2 months ago
What a piece of American made shit.
eskimochaos 2 months ago
@eskimochaos hows your village doing?
cheaniggachea 2 months ago
Ashes to ashes, dust to dust, if it weren't for Ford, our tools would rust!
HKmaroLS1 2 months ago 39
I'm not going to stick up for Ford on this one until all the facts are out.
But people are saying that the driveshaft is too light for this sort of thing. Didn't this guy do any research before taking off his governor? Or even before buying the vehicle?
I'm sure a bit of common sense and prudence on his part could have prevented this from happening. This applies to any car modification, regardless of brand.
KingKornholio 2 months ago
@USGiorgi, I Not Kiddin The 2011 V6 Was Built For Fuel Economy And Not Speed. That Driveshaft Is All Aluminum I Believe And Is Not Meant To Handle Excessive Speed. This Guy Is Dumb For Takin The Limiter Off And Trying To Push The Limits Of His Mustang. If He Wanted To Go Fast He Should Have Bought A GT
KScountryboy87 2 months ago 2
Also... why the HELL didn't you slow down after that nice buzzing sound?
abacacus 2 months ago 3
Limiters go on cars for a reason.
If you take it off, there is a chance something will explode. Don't be a whiny bitch if it does explode. Be happy it wasn't a tire that went.
abacacus 2 months ago 21
@abacacus V-rated tires can handle 14mph more than this POS driveshaft.
mebiuspower 2 months ago
@abacacus That's the dumbest thing i've ever heard. You can't build a crappy driveshaft that may explode 135+mph and hope everyone will keep their limiters on, especially giving the new V6 300 horses, i'm pretty sure not everyone will be a little pussy like you and keep it stock.
XetroVCruceru 2 months ago
@XetroVCruceru
I wouldn't leave it stock at all. I'd replace the driveshaft that is KNOWN to be a weak point before I removed the limiter.
then again if I wanted to go fast I'd just get a GT instead of a secretarymobile V6.
abacacus 2 months ago
How is it this guys fault? Who the fuck buys a mustang limited to 112? Come on guys... There are older cars, like the G35 or the rsx-s, which are limited to 145, 155.
Shit like this is the reason people don't buy American cars. Believe me, I want the new V6 stang, it's fast and economical. But things like this are killing U.S car manufacturing.
All it takes is one bad experience with a product. Unless Ford issues a recall, I suggest people stay away from these cars. Who knows what else is wro
bmwdinamo 2 months ago
@bmwdinamo Who the fuck buys a car to go out on the STREET and run two to three times the POSTED SPEED LIMIT? Now granted, I did the same shit when I WAS A KID. It's the Guy's fault because he knowingly made a modification to the car that resulted in this happening without taking the proper steps to ensure shit like this didn't happen.
ALL regular race car drivers ALWAYS change out their driveshafts. And a clown who thinks his stock car is a race car, is NOT a professional driver!
Vanakatherock 2 months ago
@Vanakatherock Way to attack the driver instead of Ford. Now be serious, do you really believe that people buy mustangs to drive the posted speed limit, keep it completely stock and never take it mast 2,500 rpms? Exactly. It's not the drivers fault; its Ford's for building such an unreliable, dangerous car. I'm sure if he wanted to cruise along at 55mps he would of got a Preus or a corolla.
bmwdinamo 2 months ago 3
@bmwdinamo Dude, the car was built for cruising and fuel economy. 300+HP and 31MPG. Somethings aren't going to be the same as what you find on the GT, GT500, or Boss. Driveshaft included. It's a failure mainly on the owner of the cars fault for not performing proper modifications.
Why do you honestly think they put a "limiter" on a vehicle in the first place? To prevent things like this from happening, of course! Exceed the cars limits and expect catastrophic failures.
Vanakatherock 2 months ago
@Vanakatherock Nissan gtr blows rustang out the door..don't be such a cry baby.
maybe ford needs to go back to 85 mph seedo
KIMBOSLICE66666 2 months ago
@KIMBOSLICE66666 Who's crying? I'm making a point. And in reference to the GTR, NO SHIT SHERLOCK. What kind of an idiot would deny that fact? Go back to your Xbox, you troll.
Vanakatherock 2 months ago
@bmwdinamo Also, search for, on youtube, "Death of a Trans Am" and watch the first video of a guy absolutely obliterating the clutch on the car. Then tell me if it's Pontiac's fault, the clutch makers fault, or the drivers fault?
Vanakatherock 2 months ago
@Vanakatherock Not a fair comparison in the case of the modified Trans-Am.
While the limiter is there for tire safety reasons typically, Ford still should have built the driveshaft to handle the car's top speed when it advertises the V6 as an economical choice for a performance car.
philyt 2 months ago
@philyt The only difference was the amount of modifications performed on each car. Technically the only thing we know about this Mustang is that he lifted the speed limiter. We don't know what other mods may or may not have been performed. What's to say the programmer used to lift the limiter, he didn't also bump the power up 50 or so horsepower as is very much possible? We don't know the history of this car.
This & the Trans Am both were modified, & both exceeded the limits of a part
Vanakatherock 2 months ago
@philyt The entire point of the matter is simple: a factory stock vehicle's parts always have limits. If you modify your car in any way and then push your vehicle past those stock limits, catastrophic failure will occur. Ford put an economical drive shaft in this Mustang for economy reasons while still allowing room for performance. It's not advertised as a race car, it's only advertised as a sports car with excellent fuel economy. Failure is placed on the driver.
Vanakatherock 2 months ago
@Vanakatherock I see your new to automobiles, that's OK.
There's a massive difference between a near-stock Mustang, and that fully built T/A. There's also a term known in engineering as a safety factor. Things are designed to withstand (x) amount of times their needed strength. Drive shafts in particular follow this rule. You never hear about other cars shitting driveshafts with regular bolt-ons, much less something as minor as a tuner (Which won't even give you 50 hp).
Furthermore:
philyt 2 months ago
@philyt And it's also very clear that you missed the entire point of my comparison to that Trans Am. The entire point was, both the Mustang driver here and the Trans Am driver there made modifications, no matter the size difference, to their cars "knowingly" and then proceeded to make some type of performance style run, burnout/top speed run, and then discovered the hard way what the hell happens when you exceed the limits of a certain part.
Blame = Drivers in BOTH situations
Vanakatherock 2 months ago
@Vanakatherock There's no such thing as an "economical" driveshaft. A light weight, balanced driveshaft is a plus for both, but there's no gain in economy by sacrificing strength.
It's a base model that had more power than the "muscle" cars of ~20 years ago, including LT1 and early LS1 cars. Both of which that don't destroy driveshafts at their top speeds,or with bolt ons, It's marketed as a performance car, and has been presented as such by reviewers.
Fact is, it's a poorly built driveshaft
philyt 2 months ago
@philyt One. I'm not new to cars. I know exactly what I"m talking about. Two, it's obvious you have no clue about the "limits" of certain parts. The limiter was put on the car for a reason. Obviously the reason was the driveshaft and/or tires. This car owner knowingly removed the limiter from his car, and the end result was, after exceeding the limits of the driveshaft, it exploded.
Ford knew what the limits were, so they put the limiter on the car for a reason.
Furthermore:
Vanakatherock 2 months ago
@Vanakatherock Yes, but it took a video of a failure like this to expose the issue/low performance limits of this car. The majority of people especially Mustang owners would not expect to have a failure like this.
jonkolo13 2 months ago
@jonkolo13 Yes, it took a video of the driver performing an illegal act after having performed a modification to his car which resulted in the driver pushing the vehicle past the limits of a part on the car, all the while putting himself in danger and voiding his warranty. Sure, Ford may have put a better drive shaft on the car, but the V6 Model is not made for racing without first performing proper modifications.
Vanakatherock 2 months ago
@philyt The driver should have learned from this experience: study your car before pushing it above it's limits. You need to know, as someone who modifies their car, how far you can push it with certain stock parts left alone. Driveshaft included.
The sheer fact that people are blaming Ford is disgusting. Had he bolted a supercharger on to a stock engine, and then blew the engine, y'all probably would have done the same thing citing: "Ford should have known people would modify cars"
Vanakatherock 2 months ago
@philyt It's fortunate that the driver is still alive after all of this. But it's unfortunate that the ignorance of so many people is coming into light in this subject. Ford chose the best Driveshaft for the purpose of this car. It was only, yes ONLY, advertised as a budget performance car by the car magazine rags around on the internet. Every commercial I seen on it was touting the 31mpg 305HP V6. Nothing ever said, by Ford, about it's "racing" performance.
Blame: Driver/owner
Vanakatherock 2 months ago
@Vanakatherock And now I'm glad I went for the V8.
cptmc 2 months ago
@bmwdinamo What the driver did was FAR more dangerous than anything Ford may have done - especially with the driver having disabled and exceeded the speed limiter Ford installed that would've prevented this in the first place with that kind of rotational force and resistance, doofus.
MadlockNJ 2 months ago
Wow. Takes some balls to film yourself while driving that speed.
xyling 2 months ago
@xyling It's not that hard, even easier with a brand new car. It's hard when going faster and feeling those bumps on the road AND making your turns.
Daveedchill 2 months ago
@xyling I was thinking the same thing. What a fucking idiot.
Trax0r1 2 months ago
You're lucky to be alive; however, Ford should have realized that shade tree tuners would have remove the speed limiter. Ford should have engineered a better drive shaft and a better transmission. Further, they need to source it here in America and not from China.
snakesinmypants 2 months ago
Most economy cars from all countries can do 135mph on the autobahn. . .
nagasako7 2 months ago
I guess the car was Found On Road Dead.
erocicTheGreat 2 months ago
So this here is just a random defect.
shafta99 2 months ago
i like how everyone here is talking shit about how a car cant go over 130s as if they ever need to go that fast in the first place.
moisespjr 2 months ago
Hahahaha!!!
Take that V6 guys and your stupid "It has just as much power as your '07 GT does". I dare you to follow me.
ilikebudlite 2 months ago
The Factory Limits The Top Speed To 112 MPH On A V6 Mustang, So This Guy Is an Idiot Trying To Override That.
KScountryboy87 2 months ago
@KScountryboy87
You're kidding me right? My first car could do 120. A Mustang can't do over 112 without disintegrating the driveshaft?
USGiorgi 2 months ago