Sonic The Hedgehog 2 Beta: Hidden Palace Zone 1 (Debug Mode)

[redbemani]

00:38 Fuuuuuuuu beta death egg music!!! XD

[ultrazorg]

whats with the music change?

[5minlatecomebacks]

Nice to have this see the light of day. Looked pretty legit, wonder why it was cut.

[abckookooman]

Gosh I can't help but flame when it comes to the one subject I have PhD's in:

I CAN ALMOST SAY I WROTE 100 PAGED ESSAYS FOR EACH BYTE OF EACH VERSION (INCLUDING ALL 13 PROTOTYPES), N00BS!!! *flame off*

Sorry about that, it was intended for the older comments, which were really irritating me due to misinformation. I got my PhD(s) at my favorite college, aka Sonic Retro. There's hundreds of sites out there which give out misinformation, so ROM hacking is the only way to learn. (PS I'm not a nerd)

[gregory06]

1:25 yeah try it 50 more times, maybe it'll break

[DavaJr]

@gregory06 lol

[themasterdude5896]

i can use degug mode but i can't go there :p

[kawrght]

this is one of the most contraversial "left outs" of the game, it looks like they just couldnt fix the bugs and keep to the cartridges limit. kinda would have been cool if they had though since the lvl looks cool!(hidden palace and the other left outs would contribute a lot to later sonics though, so it wasnt all for nought, wiht te biggest being dust zone-sandopalis

[AwesomelyEpic50]

*gets 100 rings*RING RING RING RING RING DAWADA DAWADA RING RING

[MoldytoasterMedia]

fake and gay

[MrDarthmaul123]

@MoldytoasterMedia it's real

[Shartl9]

@MoldytoasterMedia I know you are

[supersonic7628]

out of all the levels they removed, i wished they'd have not taken out hidden palace, and just take a little more time to finish it

[zaqx10]

When you go underwater invincible, its the Supersonic music .

[xbox360man987]

check my youtube acount to what really happen to this level and all the other ones

[johncase7777]

This level was in my game. I never could understand we people thought it was hidden.

[Icalasari]

Bet some hackers could do great things with this

[123Masterx]

so sonic WAS robotosized

[slimmbob]

I'd love to see this remade in Sonic 4.

[DinerSals]

@slimmbob:

That'd be fucking awesome.

[Finalflash50]

how do you debug the beta one.

[EnsignN7]

@Finalflash50 No one really knows how, but there's a saveslot for emulators that's circulating that starts at the level select and the debug code already enabled.

[0906smw]

@Finalflash50 You press D,D,D,D Up Up Down Down Down Down on title.

[bagi80]

you can actually access this level in the final version of sonic using game genie codes and level select and also debug mode.

[joshman196]

music change on 100th ring?

[german199denuevo]

i was there too!

[Joemamma69000]

2 facts:

1)sonic the hedgehog TWO was the debut of the Master Emerald even WITHOUT knuckles nor angel island yet

2)this would have been a cool level

and I'm so curious to find out what they were going to do with that master emerald like "Hyper Sonic" i bet they have graphics for a white and even MORE powerful sonic if they did that would be AWESOME like faster AND he can fly without just hovering but like flying via Arrow Keys and holding C

[DreamKing2]

@Joemamma69000 Sonic 2 was not the debut of the master emerald.

[Joemamma69000]

@DreamKing2 do you not see the master emerald in that stage? i bet it was originally gonna be the debut of it

[DreamKing2]

@Joemamma69000 By the game designers it was said that it is just another object. I dont have a link or anything but i remember reading. I think it was stated when questioned about the beta that was stolen, which we all see now.

[travelsonic]

@Joemamma69000 It was a breakable object that resembled the M.E - the person who made the stage graphics [Craig Stitt] said so himself years ago. It was, however, where Sonic was supposed to get his Super Sonic ability, or so it was planned.

[shalpp]

that second is opinion

[blacklabel67k]

wow never played this level when i had the game. must have had an early version.

[sonicmaster110022]

1:18-1:30 sonic:damn thing won't break!

[socalkev]

guess who made hidden palace zone!!! Craig Stitt!! he now works with insomniac so don't be surprised if we saw a hidden palace in resistance or jack & dakster in the near future :)

[marquitoszarate]

This the Sonic the Hedgehog 2 Beta Version, but this level got scrapped in the Final version, but you can access a corrupted version of it.

Oh, in the cartdrige for the level select (Sonic 2 Beta), just press A+Start and select Hidden Palace.

[dogeymon83]

The interesting thing about this level is that it didn't make it into Sonic the Hedgehog 2, ......but the music for this level made it into the ending credits.

Haha. When they do that little overture of all the game's music together, there's a little bit of this level's music in there.

[MrRenard7785]

@dogeymon83 Where at? I can't hear it...

[superskeetospro]

They should put a finished version of this level in Project Needlemouse.

[foxskywalker64]

Yay for the Death Egg Music playing when you get 100 rings, and even more Yay that it sounds like it's being played on rings!

[DoitForTheLolz1]

i found a glitch in death egg zone with debug. you defat the boss and when you are running away from the exploding death egg you go into debug mode and go back to the boss room. there, you can fight the boss again with the explosion still behind you

[TheGermanFox]

I love the music for this level. Shame it was scrapped.

[Bsheehan]

i saw the master emerald break before

[Necromankas]

Super sonic ;)

[0Piggyjelly0]

oh and also this level has it's own music but it only appears on the actual level in later versions of the beta rom.

[0Piggyjelly0]

Idon't see why they scraped this level. It was so well designed.

[marquitoszarate]

Because:

1. They ran out of time.

2. There was no more room for the cartridge to hold Hidden Palace and other scrapped levels (Wood, Desert, Winter, Genocide City (Cyber City).

[guadeloup18]

You sure that its the actual prototype and not a knock off made by someone

[crazyiproshow]

yeah it is

[HaroldDeathbring]

The actual Hidden Palace music is sound test 10 (might be 20) in Sonic 2.

[shalpp]

This was the original song for hpz until they decided to change it into something moar srs.

These aren't glitches.

They're the result of unfinished work.

The tube thing was because it hadn't been implemented yet.

The music thing was because it still had sonic 1's sound driver. The lack of tails's animations was because all they really needed at the time was to know that his walking animations worked right

[Mephilesthedark360]

at 0:03 a image comes up and Hidden Palace Zone looks like a Ice Palace LOL

[TheMVRules]

Song 10 was not implemented into this beta.

[BoboTheMonkey]

A Beta? I never would have guessed

[BubbytheTourG]

How did you get debug working in this prototype?

[shalpp]

CCCC up

Down down down down up

[Crysal1010]

Haha, it's like Tails is sliding across the floor when he's supposed to be braking, like the floor is slippery. xD

Tails: AHWHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEHEE­EEHEEHEEEEE!

[F4fullpower]

I need help

I have Sonic Mega Collection Plus for the PS2 and I use debug all the time on Sonic 2

How do you switch whats in the boxes? When I put a box down all there is is the 2P switch box

[pieman19]

um i think you have to press circle or square

[ass1h]

??????

[silversunset23]

the beginning invincible music is the super sonic music b4 fthe aquatic ruins music

[FireKirby256]

how u go there? the hidden stage

[marquitoszarate]

This is the Sonic 2 Beta, you have to download the ROM and then use the Level Select Cheat (A+Start)

The final version doesn't have Hidden Palace, but there's a corrupted version of it).

[FlyinMonkeySquadron]

Can you still use Debug Mode on the Virtual Console?

[sesshylurve]

yup

[DeathDragon4000]

and so, sonic and his friend tails find a tunnel under the master emerald leading to the triforce realm..and link thought it was under ganons castle! guess he never checked under the big green shiny rock!! xD

[rainechoo]

when I'm in debug mode, I change to a ring and click on tails,and then I just skip to the end of the level.

[ristar600]

HOW DO YOU ACESS THIS LEVEL? when i do this all i get when i go into the death egg i get a screwed up version with wierd music playing. (not using beta version)

[sesshylurve]

This is a beta version of the game. If you try to go to HPZ with the final you will go to a version with garbled graphics.

Does anyone read the description anymore? :P

[soldier501]

There are few points in the description:

1. This music came before Mystic Cave 2P, so MC2P uses HPZ music.

2. It's unnecessary in which level you collect 100 Rings, it will always change to DEZ music in this beta.

But n1 vid though.

[soldier501]

oh sorry, the first point is wrong :P

[zeldagamer00]

At 0:35 the music switches to i think Death Egg zone... Strange

[zeldagamer00]

Nvm my last comment

[evilmajikman]

I can see why this never made it to the official release. ...

[Xbulelo]

explain that ridiculous comment?

[suthrnrockluvr]

Its not sonicesque....theres no two ways to go...just one plain route

[Xbulelo]

But the whole look and graphics constitutes Sonic's look, theme, feel. There's no problems with variety in gameplay.

[travelsonic]

That's not why it never made it though. This level can justify the seemingly plain level layout because of what it was originally intended for - according to Naka, the level was meant to be where Sonic gained his Super Sonic power.

[soniquefus]

Kinda makes you wonder if it would have said, "Now Sonic can go to the Hidden Palace" like in Sonic 3&K

[cracksdhead]

how do u get there?

[lariexdaman]

retarsts!

[InsanimationStudios]

coming from someone who can't even spell "retards" right.

[toucan86]

ok so is there a way that we can get access to this game or what cause ive looked everywhere

[cargochaos]

lol, its like one big sound test

[soniquefus]

3. The Tails One up Monitor isn't a glitch either. The byte that the monitor is set to was Sonic's 1 up from Sonic 1. In Sonic 2 it was changed to Tails' 1 up. This just never got changed because the level is so old.

4. Again, collecting 100 rings plays Death Egg because that's where the music was in Sonic 1 for a 1 up.

For everything else, it's just unfinished. Not really glitches.

[soniquefus]

1. The Sonic 2 Mystic Cave Zone music was intended for this level, that's not a glitch.

2. That's where the drowning song was in Sonic 1, thus that's the music that plays.

[travelsonic]

1. incorrect. This music was just a placeholder until HPZ's proper music was finished. From BETA 4 on, hopefully earlier BETAs will be found with HPZ still in tact - the sound test 10 music is used.

[soniquefus]

Yes yes you're right. I see what I wrote is confusing. What I meant to say is, it's not a "glitch" that that music plays. It was intended to play this music during this beta.

But yep, Song 10 was going to be the actual song.

[ikaricrime]

The sonic team must of had a fun time making the game, because that looked pretty cool.

[RalphHernandez7]

Wow (sarcasm). I have the version of Sonic the Hedgehog 2 that has the music of 10 of the same zone you are playing now.

[NAPREDATOR]

Looks like your missing the point.

[Omochao0]

how did u do this cheat

[DalekSam]

It isn't a cheat: its in the beta version of Sonic the Hedgehog 2.

[Omochao0]

how do u play sonic 2 beta

[DalekSam]

To play this, you need an emulator (Gens) and google for "Sonic 2 Beta/Early Beta".

You will also need the level select code - but I forgot it.

[CentureyX]

On the title screen hold A and press Start.

[tailsrox77]

that life box had tails on it not sonic(omg)

[ZONICvsMARIO]

if u go down the pipe with the master emerald on it(with debug mode) u will die:0, unless u r playing delta or long version:)

[someguynamedmoe]

How do you get to that level! I wish they kept it in the game, it looked really cool! (Except for the part where they didn't finish it...)

[Chickenfried1]

lol man i got a genesis and i WANT THIS LEVEL! how do i get it pm me

[TheWolf87]

I like those songs and I totally want to play the Sonic 2 Hidden Palace Zone so badly! Sonic 2 Hidden Palace is so much better than the Hidden Palace from Sonic 3 & Knuckles. I want that Hidden Palace Zone back in the Sonic 2 game, I don't know why they deleted it and put it in Sonic 3 & Knuckles; it's a darn shame!

[nintendork64]

i wish they had kept this level

[smariofreak6489]

ahh..so thats where the 2p music comes from :) the unfinished stages

[BlueYoshi527]

That Sonic has a pretty cool looking walk, it's like more smoother or something.

[kurisux]

The auto-spin is a function of the game engine, and is not part of the level itself: if you actually PLAY the level, even in the hacks that bring it back, you will often just stop moving in the tubes. The collision physics do not totaly work for the level, and they never got around to changing it before the deadline.

[kurisux]

All the interviews say is "time constraints." Now, "finishing" the zone layout wise would have taken what, maybe an hour or 2 tops? Everything else in it is complete. It was removed because it "wasn't fun to play." Why? most likely because sections of it do not behave properly.

Try playing the "beta" the "alpha" and the 2 version that restore the zone: Even in with the final game engine, some odd things occure there.

[impblackbelt]

This level was scrapped by the creators due to a "lack of fun factor", you could say. The level design is very basic compared to a level that made it into the finished game. Also, the 2p Hidden Cave music was originally supposed to belong to this level, along with the music for the lost Genocide City and Wood zones being used for the other two player levels.

[kurisux]

wrong: they used placeholders wherever they needed to. Track #10 in the sound test in the final is the music for this zone. The genocide city and wood zone music theories seem correct. However, the music for mystic cave 2 would seem to be more for the "desert" zone and not for this.

As far as being canceled goes, from the looks of things, they coulndt get the level to work correctly. The tubes refuse to work, and since the level was never really finished, they just scrapped it.

[cinnamondouche]

"The tubes refused to work"? Are you on crack. The version of this level in the final game (while it lacks all collision data) has working tubes. That has to be about the stupidest thing ever. "Well we created this game, but this one part refuses to work, so we'll just delete the whole level."

[666liam666]

you guys are arguin about who knows sonic more??

you guys need to go out and get laid

[pokerworldcommunity1]

ha ha! i once got laid cos of my knoledge of sonic.. well actually it was form my lack of.. lol she was like you know nothing about sonic? ahh jeez i wanna suck yo dick off so bad.

[Sonic128128]

What system is this for?

[sonicjosh789]

genisis

[GhostSonic]

just cause you have sonic in you name doesn't mean you know sonic, (it's on genisis moran, what else?)

[Sonic128128]

WHAT THE FUCK DID YOU SAY!?!?! You think I don't know sonic. I've got news for you; got every Sonic show and all cutscenes from Sonic games on YOUR computer? Do YOU go on wikipedia? HUH?!?!

[GhostSonic]

Actually, yes, Also, if you went on wikipedia, you can search "Sonic 2 beta" and find this, but apperently, you couldn't do this, also, I have better things to do then waiste computer space downloading videos when I can play the actuall game

[Sonic128128]

I have the games too. I did that MONTHS ago. It said that most of the data pertaining to this level had been deleted in the final version. I use the clips to make my videos, btw, dumbass.

[GhostSonic]

why am I fighting with you in the first place?

[Sonic128128]

Because of your, "just cause you have sonic in you name doesn't mean you know sonic, (it's on genisis moran, what else?)" Comment. I'm not a moron when it comes to Sonic.

[GhostSonic]

yes, a guy tends to say those things when he's in a bad mood.

[Sonic128128]

Gotta. I've been in a bad mood lately too.

[chaomaster456]

how did you get that

[Rol110587]

is this in any Sonic 2 cartridge?

Co'z I still have my copy. How the hell did you manage to get this leve, anyway? (really, how'd you do it?!)

[Dwkayne]

in debug mode dude its very simple google it

[MonsterDany]

How have you getted there?

[mickmick1995]

death egg music beginning sounds like lots of rings

[sean007s]

how the hell do u complete tat level and who made tat level

[secondsession]

You cant complete "tat" level because it was never finished and also Sonic team made it you dipshit

[Necromankas]

It was completed, i saw it on another video.

[Thundarr1]

It is fully playable, just incomplete. There's no way out.

[MrSuperFireFart]

the level is possibly playable, but the data is corrupted. Much like room 120 in the Oot debug rom.

[lewiswilliams]

i think the mystic cave music was originally composed for hidden palace zone, that's why it plays.

[cinnamondouche]

No, the mystic cave music plays because it was shoved into the 'music slot' that this level defaults to. All the music was reordered before the release, including the music REALLY composed for this level.

[syythe]

how uu get in?

[kingt34]

hmm... i see there are way more rings and way less enemies... still pretty cool

[TosTi]

WOW WHAT A MIX!

[4jbs]

ya know besides a few glaring gaps in the level itself it looks just about compelete. they must have scraped it from the game at the last second because you dont fall throught the floor or anything and there are ever eneimes

[cinnamondouche]

OMG SEGA COULDNT REMEMBER HOW TO PUT ENEMIES IN THE LEVEL OR FIX THE FLOOR, SO THEY DELETED THE ENTIRE LEVEL!!!! You're such a fucking idiot. It was scrapped because of time constraints. Read interviews and do research before you make yourself look like the jackass that you are.

[YuckieDuck]

Why does Sonic change into monitors, rings and badniks at one point?

[hiddends]

2 words: debug mode

[Y2Zero]

This the beta and not a prototype.The actual prototype has a glitchy green hill zone.Anyway thanks but i have seen enough hidden palace.

[everett1911]

that was pretty cool ^^

I remember having tried the BETA rom... XD

I wasted hours just looking at every inches of the death egg levels to see if there was somethign in them XD

well nice shot :)

[MadSk8ter]

Yo, sorry for that last comment. That Death Egg music is kinda creepy...if I made that game I would definitely make the music different. Like maybe...IDK. Something cool. Keep up the good work! Oh, and do you have any more beta Sonic videos? I'll just check.*goes to get Sonic Beta game for computer* Damn it! It says you need an emulator! Damn you! Damn you all to hell!

[XRedDragonClawsX]

This ROM is the BETA version of Sonic 2. Otherwise known as a prototype.

[person781]

howd u get to hidden palace on sonic 2? it was unfifnished so they didn't put in the game and u cant find this newhere.where is it f?rom

[cml9023]

also, the invincibility music was the super sonic music!

[XRedDragonClawsX]

I think this video was viewed the most out of my other ones. <.< awesome...

[blankmoments]

Do you know who I am!

Im blank XD

[blankmoments]

wow...

[XRedDragonClawsX]

WHat's messed up? The game or the video itself? I did use a free screen recorder and movie maker, so sorry. BUT, I have something better now, thanks to a cool sonic fan...

[MadSk8ter]

everything about this video is messed up

[supersonic45]

wheres the beta rom for this game

[XRedDragonClawsX]

Wanna know the truth? I ran into a video like this one and looked at the comments about it. So, I "overheard" the debug mode code for Sonic 2 BETA. THIS WAS ONLY LIKE 4 DAYS AGO! Interesting huh? I never knew the code to begin with.

[Groudon199]

I found a savestate with the debug code enabled.

[imveryhungry]

Howd U Get Debug Mode On Sonic 2 Beta?