(Part 6) Song of Songs 5:16: Proof of Prophet Muhammad in the Bible

[RightMyWay]

ARE YOU A COPY CAT OF MR. DEEDAT?

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Consider yourself refuted - again!

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[RightMyWay]

WHAT A COMPLETE IDIOT!!!

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This person cannot read HEBREW!!!

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Buwhahahahahahahahaaa

[855842]

Mashallah great video

[mRwhite298]

Oo muslims antichrist liars and decivers SONG OF SONGS is not prophetic verse that speak of futture happening SONG OF SONGS is only love song that 2 who are in love singing in Jerusalem 1000 y before blessed birth of CHRIST O muslis liars and decivers this SONG have 8 chapter and 14 verses and  shoulde be read all to get meaning of what this song speaking muhammad can not be in this song because his original name is MUSTAFA THIS IS ONLY LOVE SONG NOT PROPHETIC VERSE

[MrMrRiip]

LOL. Proof is right in their own books. Allahu Akbar

[MegaDwell]

@SuperAmsterdamWest Your prophet is called mouth.

[MegaDwell]

He is not marry, He is God who called Daughters of Jerusalem, He is Jesus.

[SuperAmsterdamWest]

@MegaDwell well explain then the song of solomon 5:16 in hebrew it says he is sweet muhammed מוחמד in hebrew

[MegaDwell]

@SuperAmsterdamWest Why not you told me to explain in God's language.

His mouth is most sweet - means He never tell a single lie.

Just show me in the quran muhammad said Daughter of Jerusalem.

[viktermore]

if prophet Muhammad is mentioned by name in Song of Solomon 5:16 then the same word as Muhammad also shows up in these verses because it is same word and this is what it means.

Hosea 9:6 >> Muhammad was buried.

1 Kings 20:6 >> Muhammad taken away from house

2 Chronicles 36:19- Muhammad destroyed by fire

[exposemyfoes]

@viktermore i've refuted u on that,i need u to quote another place where his name is mentioned with a suffix plural, u keep fakin and u wont be able to trick me because i study hebrew

[viktermore]

@exposemyfoes I personal don't see how Muhammad can be in plural form. No where in Quran Muhammad name is used with suffix plural. You are free to believe your own interpretation but to me Song of Solomon 5:16 is not evidence that Muhammad is in Bible and is very bad example as that verse has some lustful content.

[Myhopeisinhim]

@viktermore

They pick the verse in Solomon simply because it sounds similar to muhammad, but if they only search the scriptures and read all the things said about the term machmad, they'd see it has nothing to do with the prophet.

Not to mention that when they quote the word in Solomon 5:16, they conveniently miss the last two letters of the hebrew word. Yes it starts as mem chet mem dalet...but that isn't the whole thing. It says

Mem chet mem dalet yod mem

translated as.....

[Myhopeisinhim]

mchmdym

It is surprising they'd try to use the bible since they believe it is corrupt though, that is what surprises me most. This one is a prime example though of someone trying to make the bible say what they want it to say. This term means lovely, or desirable.

God bless

[RaviMalhotra69]

Read things in context -- read the ENTIRE 5th chapter!

Verse 1 is spoken by the "mystery man", and then verses 2-8 by the mystery guy's lover. Verse number 9 is the friends of the girl asking her to describe what is special about the guy. The lovergirl describes the guy from verses 10-16.

Now go back to verse 1 (spoken by the guy) -- the bloke clearly addresses his lover as his wife and his SISTER. And then he says that he's drank WINE!

Check it out yourself!

God bless.

[rubel579]

True news.........

[breshsheet]

It is a piece that explores the beauty of a marriage relationship between a king and his wife. Muslims believe that the adjectival clause "altogether lovely" can be changed to a proper noun, "Muhammad." The text should then read, when translated into English: His mouth is sweetness itself; he is Muhammad. This is my lover, this my friend, O daughters of Jerusalem

this is completely untrue

[breshsheet]

this is completely untrue

first of all if muhammed is the one mentioned here then i have three questions to ask Who are the daughters of Jerusalem? Did Muhammad ever court one of his many wives in Jerusalem?

If this is Muhammad, which of his wives is speaking? Was Muhammad ever married to a dark woman he wooed from Lebanon?

[exposemyfoes]

@breshsheet point one is that it has a deeper meaning,the muslims who follow him represent the women who is describing to the people of jerusalem (jews) about his qualities, so when they see him they should accept him, the jews keep rejecting while we keep telling u he is the last prophet,hope i'm makin sense because i cudnt be bothered writing all the info down lol

[breshsheet]

Did Muhammad ever claim kingship?

next if we are going to use the word machmad as muhammed , then we must take the other 11 times machmad is mentioned and subsitute the word lovely (machmad) for muhammed to see how it looks , you will then see how foolish it looks . i will post them now

1 Kings 20:6: "Yet I will send my servants to thee tomorrow about this time, and they shall search thy house, and the houses of thy servants; and it shall be, [that]

[IlluminatiFromSatan]

@breshsheet the answer i here...i hope ur sincere in ur argument ...our ego will now benefit us in the day of judgment...watch this:)

/watch?v=cur_6aYs_7k

[exposemyfoes]

@breshsheet the letter h in hebrew is gutterish so it sounds like ch so muhammed would sound like muchammed,jewish rabbis dont pronounce it as machmad but as muchammed,none of the other words have the suffix plural so they cant be seen as the same as song of songs 5:16

[SubZero7th]

@exposemyfoes You're referring to the letter Ḥêṯ (ח), which is pronounced as ḥ (emphatic h; voiceless pharyngeal fricative) in Tiberian, Yemenite, Iraqi, and Syrian Hebrew. It is pronounced as ḫ (voiceless velar fricative, equivalent in sound to the Arabic خ). Like I said 8 months ago, the Hebrew word in Song of Songs 5:16 is maḥămaddîm (מַחֲמַדִּים), so it's NOT "muhammedim" or "muchammed" or "muchammedim".

[breshsheet]

@exposemyfoes muhammed is a false prophet , the problem is that the koran says that the bible mentions muhammed , this is a lie the bible does not mention muhammed at all...but in your desperation you are trying to make up words that you think we will fall for , the word machmad does not refer to muhammed , i suggest you take a look at the comments i have posted showing you how many times machmad is mentioned and exactly what it means

[jaw118]

@breshsheet it might not mention him by name, but i bet it mentions him in description.

[jaw118]

@breshsheet look to the right, there is a video called "jewish rabbiproofs that muhamed is a prophet"...

[breshsheet]

whatever is Muhammad in thy eyes, they shall take [it] in their hand, and carry [it] away."

2 Chronicles 36:19: "And they burnt the house of God, and broke down the wall of Jerusalem, and burnt all its palaces with fire, and destroyed all its Muhammad vessels."

Isaiah 64:11: "Our holy and our beautiful house, where our fathers praised thee, is burned with fire: and all our Muhammad things are laid waste."

[breshsheet]

Lamentations 1:10: "The adversary hath spread out his hand upon all her Muhammad things: for she hath seen [that] the nations entered into her sanctuary, whom thou didst command [that] they should not enter into thy congregation." im sure you can already see the word machmad cannot mean muhammed

Lamentations 1:11: "All her people sigh, they seek bread; they have given their Muhammad things for food to relieve the soul: see, O LORD, and consider; for I am become vile."

[breshsheet]

Lamentations 2:4: "He hath bent his bow like an enemy: he stood with his right hand as an adversary, and slew all [that were] Muhammad to the eye in the tabernacle of the daughter of Zion: he poured out his fury like fire."

Ezekiel 24:16: "Son of man, behold, I take away from thee the Muhammad of thy eyes with a stroke: yet neither shalt thou mourn nor weep, neither shall thy tears run down

this verse alone makes it clear the word machmad cannot mean muhammed ,it does not make sense

[moti4love]

as a teacher of hebrew i can say for 100% : this video is for morons only !

[cannotfindavoice]

The word that is pointed out to be Mohammad in this verse is the Hebrew the word mahamaddim, when spoken this word sounds similar to the name Mohammad. But in reality in the Hebrew language means delights, delightfulnesses & not Mohammad. Though Muslims need to find Muhammad mentioned because the Qur'an claims so, the Song of Songs is neither part of the Torah or the Gospel, so that this verse wouldn't help at all to satisfy this demand of the Qur'an even if it were to speak about Muhammad.

[ajhersi2]

people salam/shalom/peace be unto you...this isnt a debate section, i was waiting for this part brother, you could of used songs of songs in the beginning but i understand why you saved the strongest point for last, to my christian brothers you must read how and where and what was compiled as the bible is today, OT and NT, and to everyone here please almost all the videos about deen (faith) there is debates, PM each other if you want to, that is not the manner of our prophets, spread peace :)

[Faithspeaker]

Jeremiah 23:34 If a prophet or a priest or anyone else claims, "This is the oracle of the Lord", I will punish that man and his household" These verses reflect upon events in Muhammad's life. Muhammad died from poisoning, and all of his male children died when they were very young.

[saladinswarrior]

@Faithspeaker ,He was poisoned by a Jewess at Khaybar,but he went on to conquer Makkah,destroyed the idols and established the foundations of the Islamic civlization.So even if the poisoning was a factor in his death(which happened long after the poisoning)then his death is similar to Zacharias and John the Baptist.

He fullfilled his mission

As for his legacy 1.5 billion ppl from all cultures claim to be his spiritual descendets

[astgraphicnovel]

@saladinswarrior Muhammed wasn't killed in war or battle but by that poison. The spirit that claimed it was gabriel tried to pray to allah in order for muhammed to be healed or reduce the pain of that posion. Those who poisoned him said if he was of God no harm will come to him... From Bukhari's Hadith 4.394: Narrated Abu Huraira. What does that say? so faithspeaker is right.

[saladinswarrior]

@astgraphicnovel my point was that even if the poison was a facor in his death,it'd be considered martyrdom.But,that doesn't mean that he was defeated rather God's promise that he would prevail over his enemies was fulfilled since the actual poisning occured before the conquest of Makkah.

My point also was that if being killed is punishment then how about the deaths of the John,the Baptist.

Also,the Prophet has a family of 1.5 billion ppl,some of whom will revive Islam.So his legacy lives on!

[astgraphicnovel]

@saladinswarrior From Bukhari's Hadith 4.394: Narrated Abu Huraira: the jews poisoned muhammed and he asked why did they do that and they replied and said "We wanted to know if you were a liar in which case we would get rid of you, and if you are a prophet then the poison would not harm you." But then again, the poison did and he died from the result of that... meaning he weren't from God. He was in constant pain for 3 years and even the spirit claimed gabriel couldn't heal him.

[khairilazizi]

@astgraphicnovel Hadith 4.394...where can i find this hadith? Nothing in all Bukhary Sahih Hadith..

[yazafara]

This is such an awesum video--i love it an pls  make more--may Allah always be pleased with u--inshallah may u and ur family reach Paradise in the swiftest of way inshallah

[breshsheet]

Conversely, a Hindu could claim that in Sura 30:1, the word "al-rum" (for Romans), which can be written "Ram," must be referring to the Hindu God "Rama."

[breshsheet]

In Suras 7:157 and 61:6 we read of a prophet, Ahmad (or Muhammad), who was revealed beforehand in the Taurat (Torah) and the Injil (Gospel). Because these Suras are included in the "eternal and perfect" authority for Muslims, it is imperative, therefore, that these passages be found, since without them, Muhammad has no outside evidence to prove his prophethood, other than himself. ....

[breshsheet]

...When taken to its logical conclusion it makes a mockery of Hebrew grammar. Why should an adjectival clause be translated a proper noun? Machmad already has a proper noun counterpart, but more closely related to the clause -- Chemdan (or Hemdan), the eldest son of Dishon of Anah the Horite. If machmad should have been written as a proper noun the author would have written Chemdan

[breshsheet]

Hosea 9:16: "Ephraim is smitten, their root is dried up, they shall bear no fruit: yea, though they bring forth, yet will I slay [even] the Muhammad [fruit] of their womb."

Joel 3:5: "Because ye have taken my silver and my gold, and have carried into your temples my Muhammad things

[breshsheet]

Ezekiel 24:25: "Also, thou son of man, [shall it] not [be] in the day when I take from them their strength, the joy of their glory, the Muhammad of their eyes, and that on which they set their minds, their sons and their daughters." Hosea 9:6: "For, lo, they are gone because of destruction: Egypt shall gather them up, Memphis shall bury them: the Muhammad [places] for their silver, nettles shall possess them: thorns [shall be] in their tabernacles."

[breshsheet]

Ezekiel 24:21: "Speak to the house of Israel, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I will profane my sanctuary, the excellence of your strength, the Muhammad of your eyes, and that which your soul pitieth; and your sons and your daughters whom ye have left shall fall by the sword."

[breshsheet]

Ezekiel 24:16: "Son of man, behold, I take away from thee the Muhammad of thy eyes with a stroke: yet neither shalt thou mourn nor weep, neither shall thy tears run down

this verse alone makes it clear the word machmad cannot mean muhammed ,it does not make sense

[breshsheet]

Lamentations 1:11: "All her people sigh, they seek bread; they have given their Muhammad things for food to relieve the soul: see, O LORD, and consider; for I am become vile."

Lamentations 2:4: "He hath bent his bow like an enemy: he stood with his right hand as an adversary, and slew all [that were] Muhammad to the eye in the tabernacle of the daughter of Zion: he poured out his fury like fire."

[breshsheet]

Isaiah 64:11: "Our holy and our beautiful house, where our fathers praised thee, is burned with fire: and all our Muhammad things are laid waste."

Lamentations 1:10: "The adversary hath spread out his hand upon all her Muhammad things: for she hath seen [that] the nations entered into her sanctuary, whom thou didst command [that] they should not enter into thy congregation." im sure you can already see the word machmad cannot mean muhammed

[breshsheet]

1 Kings 20:6: "Yet I will send my servants to thee tomorrow about this time, and they shall search thy house, and the houses of thy servants; and it shall be, [that] whatever is Muhammad in thy eyes, they shall take [it] in their hand, and carry [it] away."

2 Chronicles 36:19: "And they burnt the house of God, and broke down the wall of Jerusalem, and burnt all its palaces with fire, and destroyed all its Muhammad vessels."

[yazafara]

@breshsheet thank u for enlightening us-- may God be merciful to u and may He open ur heart to Islam-i m sure ur aware that ur hurting our sentiments but we forgive u for the sake of our Lord Allah

[breshsheet]

next if we are going to use the word machmad as muhammed , then we must take the other 11 times machmad is mentioned and subsitute the word lovely (machmad) for muhammed to see how it looks , you will then see how foolish it looks . i will post them now

[breshsheet]

first of all if muhammed is the one mentioned here then i have three questions to ask Who are the daughters of Jerusalem? Did Muhammad ever court one of his many wives in Jerusalem?

If this is Muhammad, which of his wives is speaking? Was Muhammad ever married to a dark woman he wooed from Lebanon?

Did Muhammad ever claim kingship?

[breshsheet]

Muslims claim that the Hebrew word "Machmad" (altogether lovely) can be translated "praise" or "Ahmad." Following is the text of the passage as translated in the New International Version Bible: "His mouth is sweetness itself; he is altogether lovely. This is my lover, this my friend, O daughters of Jerusalem." The book of Song of Solomon is a poetic love story between the Beloved and her Lover.

[breshsheet]

this is completely untrue

[breshsheet]

It is a piece that explores the beauty of a marriage relationship between a king and his wife. Muslims believe that the adjectival clause "altogether lovely" can be changed to a proper noun, "Muhammad." The text should then read, when translated into English: His mouth is sweetness itself; he is Muhammad. This is my lover, this my friend, O daughters of Jerusalem."

[seanieshoe]

Christians have you EVER once entertained the concept that Al Qu'ran is the complete pure word of your creator?

Humbleness & patience are the first steps. In order to be humble your heart must be purified from & continue to struggle against arrogance.

Brother, you have clearly presented logic and reason. You did your best and i am proud of you. May the consequences of your good intention bring you bountiful rewards.

[Davediamant]

watch?v=TRtv7f7Hy3I

listen to the real hebrew version...from 2:40 to the end...i guess youll find the word you are looking for

[airamona]

Thank you for your effort in explaining Islam to the world..

[aiv14]

Why do Muslims like to do eisegesis in the word of God when the word clearly states that only those with the Holy Spirit can correctly interpret the Bible? Muslims are funny. When I speak in tounges and feel the presence of the Holy Spirit and ask a Muslim why that is, they can never answer that question.

[graciouslyinlove]

I'm curious where was this lecture given? Who is your audience?

[Converted2Islam]

That's is not true! The Hebrew language uses the Plural of Respect for God by using the word "Elloh - im". A similar respect is given to God's Prophet Muhammad by the Hebrew name "Mahamad - im" as found in Song of Songs 5:16.

[graciouslyinlove]

@Converted2Islam simply saying something is true doesn't make it true. Should we believe you over the American Journal of Semitic Languages and Literatures? Should we believe you over any other Biblical Scholar? Why, what are your credentials? What makes you an authority on Biblical Hebrew?

The truth is that the concept of plural of respect is introduced into literature much later than the Old Testament was written. It might be used in the Quran and in other later forms of literature...

[graciouslyinlove]

but you can't use a later form of speech or poetry and insert it into a piece of writing that it doesn't belong in to prove a point. Would you really ignore history and learned scholars to pursue your agenda? That seems rather foolish. It would appear the agenda is more important than reality. And in this case, the agenda is the discovery of Mohammad in the Old Testament, but the way in which you go about it defies what is actually true. In other words, you're choosing to lie.

[graciouslyinlove]

I don't believe you're choosing to do so maliciously. I believe you sincerely believe what you are saying is true, since you were probably taught this by a person and system that you trust. And I'm not saying that one thing like this should cause you're entire theology to come unraveled. However, it is not accurate to claim that SOS 5:16 is speaking of Islam's prophet. It just is not true. Therefore to continue claiming that causes everything else you say to become suspect.

[Davediamant]

@Converted2Islam . its machmadim....not muchamadim and if you want more proof

watch?v=TRtv7f7Hy3I

why muslim need to find an answer for they quran in our bible...your god told you that what we got is false ....Deuteronomy Chapter 13.....muslim consider moses as a prophet..but if they will accept every word he spoke to the Israelites...than they must accept this chapter....this is about Muhammad and jesus.......TRUTH HURTS

[SubZero7th]

@Converted2Islam After watching your 8 part series, I have to say that the points you made sum up misunderstandings of verses in the Bible that some Muslims believe refer to Muḥammad. You have to understand that the Song of Songs is not a prophetic book to begin with, and the term maḥămaddîm (מַחֲמַדִּים) is not a masculine proper noun nor is it the Hebrew equivalent to Muḥammad. If you actually take a look at the Song of Songs, it's full of sexual euphemisms.

[exposemyfoes]

@SubZero7th so your trying to say that god inspired sexual love songs in his bible with no deeper meaning,jews and christians both know that their is a deeper maning to it,jews say its talkin about gods love for israel,christians say it is about jesus but muslims say its about muhammed, he fits the physical description,he was chief amongst 10 000 and he is mentioned by name,even if u think its just a word god put it their for a reason,god specifically inspired the word muhammedIM 4 a reason

[SubZero7th]

@exposemyfoes I never said anything about God inspiring such things. Like Christians, Muslims have a knack for taking verses from the Tanakh out of context in an attempt to support the validity of their religions while disregarding what the religion of those texts (Judaism) has to say. Going back to the Hebrew and being familiar with the culture helps give a better understanding. Even if Muslims learned some Hebrew, they will always see those scriptures in the light of Islam.

[SuperAmsterdamWest]

@SubZero7th why you dont wanna believe who else can it be

do you always need more proof when the evidence is in front of your nose

are you blinde?

[SubZero7th]

@SuperAmsterdamWest You just don't get it. The Song of Songs is NOT a prophetic book, hence it's part of the WRITINGS section of the Hebrew Bible, NOT the Torah or the Prophets sections. Like I said before, Muslims, like Christians, have a knack for looking at the texts of the Hebrew Bible through their own lenses without having a proper understanding of those texts and ignoring what the Jews have to say about their own scriptures.

[SuperAmsterdamWest]

@SubZero7th 1 jews are ignorant

2 they knew jesus was a prophet but they didnt wanna accept him

3 how can the bible knew that muhammed pbuh was a prophet before he came?

cause its a spell of god and it came true just like all other things god said

[SubZero7th]

@SuperAmsterdamWest It's that kind of attitude that will get you nowhere. Your question is ridiculous, because it falsely assumes that the Bible prophesies about Muḥammad when it doesn't. If you think that maḥămaddîm refers to him, then you have to apply that to other verses in the Hebrew Bible that use that word and explain just how those verses are about Muḥammad. The problem with you is, you, among various other Muslims, don't care about the context.

[SuperAmsterdamWest]

@SubZero7th look there is only 1 name thats written in hebrew מוחמד and that means muhammed

the hebrew speak it as machmad or muhammedim but in europe translatet it says muhammed

and thats the proof

you must learn hebrew to understand it

[SubZero7th]

@SuperAmsterdamWest The Hebrew word is maḥămaddîm, not "muhammedim". The transliteration of Song of Songs 5:16 on your page is inaccurate. You're telling me to learn Hebrew to understand it, but I took time to look into the word maḥămaddîm, and it has nothing to do with Muḥammad aside from sharing the same Semitic tri-consonantal root. The Jews, whom you say are ignorant, are the ones that are the ones familiar with Hebrew. Btw, which European languages are you even talking about?

[SubZero7th]

(cont.) If you think that maḥămaddîm is synonymous with Muḥammad, then how do you make sense of that when it comes to other verses it's used in? Let me use Isaiah 64:11 as an example: "Our holy and our beautiful house, where our fathers praised thee, is burned up with fire: and all Muḥammad are laid waste." The Hebrew word used in that verse for "our pleasant things" is maḥămaddênû (מַחֲמַדֵּינוּ), which is a construct of maḥămaddîm. Does this make any sense and refer to Muḥammad as well?

[SuperAmsterdamWest]

@SubZero7th tell me then who is mahamadim then?

if you translate it on google translator then it says muhammed and the computer is smarter then you

[SubZero7th]

@SuperAmsterdamWest Maḥămaddîm is not a name of a person. It's just a masculine plural noun. Whichever man is being referred to is someone's lover who apparently drinks wine so I don't understand why you and some other Muslims would connect that with Muḥammad. Google translator is not 100% accurate. If you want to get an understanding of the word, go to Blue Letter Bible or talk to someone that knows Hebrew, such as Torah-observant Jews, whom you claim are ignorant.

[SubZero7th]

(cont.) I subscribe to an Orthodox Jew named omedyashar, and he happens to not only live in Israel, but he speaks and studies in Hebrew. He made a fairly recent video in which he said that the royal plural/plural of respect is only used for God. So unless you want to say that Muḥammad is God, the word maḥămaddîm doesn't refer to him. That's as erroneous as a non-Muslim claiming that Aḷḷāh is an oak tree god since there is a similar sounding Hebrew word ʾallâ (אַלָּה) used in Joshua 24:26.

[SuperAmsterdamWest]

@SubZero7th thats not true listen arabic and hebrew are almost simular cause they made from arabic hebrew arabic is older

[SubZero7th]

@SuperAmsterdamWest Obviously Arabic and Hebrew are similar since they are both Semitic languages. Like I said, both Muḥammad and maḥămaddîm share the same Semitic tri-consonantal root (ḥ-m-d), but that doesn't mean they are synonymous words. Where is the proof that Arabic is older and that Hebrew came from Arabic? Hebrew is a Northwest Semitic language that comes from the CANAANITE family while Arabic comes from the South and Central Semitic branches.

[SubZero7th]

@Converted2Islam It's ʾĔlōhîm (אֱלֹהִים), not "Elloh-im", a word that more accurately means "powers". Whether it's referring to one or more than one person depends on the grammar. Lebanon was inhabited by the Phoenicians. In fact, some Lebanese have Phoenician ancestry as shown by genetic testing. Either way, if the man in Song of Songs is from Lebanon, that can't refer to Muḥammad since he wasn't even from Lebanon but rather from what is now Saudi Arabia.

[graciouslyinlove]

"The use of the plural as a form of respectful address is quite foreign to Hebrew." Gesenius' Hebrew Grammar (A. E. Cowley, ed., Oxford, 1976, p.398)

"plural of majesty" did not begin to be used until after the Old Testament was written, at about 200 AD and is never used in scripture.

It is wrong to take modern day poetic devices and read them back into a period of history when they did not exist.

C2I's argument is based on plural of respect being present in Biblical Hebrew, it isn't.

[graciouslyinlove]

Besides, even if we pretend that Elohim is a plural of respect, simply demonstrating that -im is used in such a way in that example does not mean it is used that way every time. You would have to give a sound reason as to why such a grammatical interpretation would be correct in this case as opposed to any other interpretation.

[graciouslyinlove]

And since it can't be used because no king or prophet of the Old Testament would have even been aware of such a grammatical practice one must simply read it as mchmdim and try to interpret the passage with the grammatical tools that were present at the time this was written.

I'm not denying the word is/sounds like "mohammad" but I cannot allow you to introduce this false idea of plural of respect and apply it to this word that is phonetically similar and claim this is your precious Mohammad.

[graciouslyinlove]

Elohim is described as an "intensive plural, denoting greatness" in the American Journal of Semitic Languages and Literatures, Vol. XXI, 1905, p. 208.

It would be correct to apply intensive plurality to mchmdim. It is rightly translated as a thing that is greatly desired. In the Latin Vulgate it appears as "totus desiderabilis" or totally desirable. Some English translations read "altogether lovely".

However, there is no reason to believe it refers to Islam's beloved prophet Mohammad.

[yhwh567]

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[44Kkrozzy]

batty boy armen not want teheheheHAHAHAHAAHA! bloodclot you done no

[rcx8666c]

You Muslims always claim that the Bible has been corrupted.

So why do you try to use the Bible to prove the coming of Mohammad.

You muslims are so fucking stupid.

[DonJuan864898741]

No need to get rude.

Not the whole Bible was corrupted. A friend of mine, who is an Orthodox Christian even told me he knows Mohammed (pbuh) from the Bible, but nevertheless he doesnt want accept Islam.

You know even when Jesus (pbuh) showed miracles such as reviving deads by Gods permission, the Jews didnt belive him and considered him a wizard. And when Mohammed s.a.v. divided the Moon in two pieces, his enemies still didnt believe even they saw clearly.

[SuperAmsterdamWest]

@DonJuan864898741 my friend muhammed was the last prophet god said if you want to believe fine if you dont then dont

but you will never enter paradise without believing in muhammed pbuh

i mean the old bible is the same as the quran we pray the same so there is no differents

[Fullmetalsnake54]

Keep trying call us stupid call us whatever you want nothing I mean nothing you do will work keep trying man just keep trying the truth is the truth whether you like it or not

[Fullmetalsnake54]

Its not just the Bible that's corrupted but Christians themselves are to how do I know this? because its clearly showing even now

[screcklich]

I have never heard a person more full of shit. Songs of Solomon, or Song of Songs, as he calls it, is about the love between Solomon and is wife.

[vepopyeye]

@screcklich

it's really shit when the revelation is about

the love between Solomon and his wife. don't you know that Solomon was an idol worshiper.

[fatibicool]

may Allah guide u

how can anyone be like this?

[rcx8666c]

More Hate Verses in the Quran:

Disbelievers will be tormented in this life, & suffer even more pain in the Hereafter. Q13:33-34

The reward for disbelievers is the Fire. Q13:35

The Quran is full of dangerous, filthy, evil passages that cannot be reformed.

[rcx8666c]

More Hate Verses in the Quran:

Disbelievers are the rightful owners of the Fire Q13:5

Allah does not hear the prayer of disbelievers. Q13:14

Those who do not answer Allah's call will go to hell. Q13:18

The Quran is full of dangerous, filthy, evil passages that cannot be reformed.

[rcx8666c]

More Hate Verses in the Quran:

Disbelievers will end up in the Fire. Q11:17

Those who oppose Islam & disbelieve in the Hereafter are guilty of the greatest wrong. Q11:18-19

Those in the Fire will suffer as long as the heavens & earth endure. Q11:106-7

Allah will fill hell with humans & jinn. Q11:119

The Quran is full of dangerous, filthy, evil passages that cannot be reformed.

[rcx8666c]

More Hate Verses in the Quran:

Those who disbelieved will face a dreadful doom. Q10:70

Allah drowned those who disbelieved his revelations. Q10:73

Moses asked Allah to harden the hearts of the Egyptians so that they would not believe until they saw the painful doom. Q10:88

The Quran is full of dangerous, filthy, evil passages that cannot be reformed.

[rcx8666c]

More Hate Verses in the Quran:

Fight disbelievers who are near you, & let them see the harshness in you. Q9:123

Disbelievers will have a boiling drink & a painful doom. Q10:4

Those who neglect Allah's revelations will make their home in the Fire. Q10:7-8

Allah has destoyed entire generations. Q10:13

The Quran is full of dangerous, filthy, evil passages that cannot be reformed.

[rcx8666c]

More Hate Verses in the Quran:

Fight the disbelievers & hypocrites. Be harsh with them. They are all going to hell anyway. Q9:73

Allah will afflict disbelievers with a painful doom in this world & the Hereafter. Q9:74

For disbelievers there will be a painful doom. Q9:90

Don't pray for idolaters (not even for your family) after it is clear they are people of hell-fire. Q9:113

The Quran is full of dangerous, filthy, evil passages that cannot be reformed.

[rcx8666c]

If you muslims keep saying that the Bible is corrupt, then why are you trying to prove that mohammad is mentioned in the Bible?

You can't have your cake and eat it too.

[MultiUniv3rsal]

I've noticed that the pro-muslim side of YouTube has some prolific capslock critters.

Glad I got to tour Iraq and help stamp out this nonsense.

Shukran.

[zfasakr]

Hi

Converted Salam.I spoke to you on pale talk for a litte bit and I was in the same room with you.I thing I have seen your videos which are great and I am eally proud of you with you work that you are doing.Allah bless you.

[tahboobi]

I L O V E Y O U C O N V E R T E D 2 I S L A M Who is better in speech than one who calls (men) to Allah, works righteousness, and says, "I am of those who bow in Islam"?

Fussilat-33

[tahboobi]

Hahaha you think that you know something I don't know about my religion LOL

"exposing" WOW nice world, I will use it in my next essay. LOL

It's just so ridicules that all you hate from our prophet is sex related problems(which are not true and merely lies that I don't care about). does that mean that you suffered from sex abuse as a child and you are trying to blame someone for that? LOL is it because you don't a wife to sleep with? I wonder who would ever wants to be with you, at least so far

[tahboobi]

ISLAM IS THE RIGHT RELIGION, SEEK THE TRUTH YOURSELF

SEE some great people who reverted to Islam

some are well known religious figures

some are popular athletes

even Rap stars converted to Islam the true religion

in other words, there is no exception,Islam is growing rapidly.

And Allah is happy when a person comes back to him. because it's not a change as much it is a going back to nature :) LOVE

[tahboobi]

NONONO I am with him LOL

you are the lonely here on an Islamic video

what are you doing anyway, get a life. what do you do for living.... oh yeah they must be paying you in $ LOL

[tahboobi]

@ littlelion1964

you are "patheticness" in it's purest forms

get a life LOL I don't think that you will teach me some English language since you don't know your own LOL "he busy" ? what

[Shaer01]

Look at you rumbling non sense. HAHAHA.lol. It's OK to loose debates. You just has to be more prepared with some knowledge next time . OK kidddo. LOL.

LAILAHA Illa ALLAH mOHAMED RASULU aLLAH.

[Shaer01]

many people don't get it here.

The Aramaic bible.- jesus spoke ARAMAIC-Which is the original bible revealed to Jesus peace be upon him- litterally mention the name Ahmad -Mohamed - See Etimology- but the translators to Hebrew / Greeks translated the name itself. and that's what muslims mean when they say the bible has been corrupted- among many other things either added or deleted.

When translating you can't translate a person name- It's called Nom Propre in French- U can't translate that.

[littlelion1964]

Now you just proved how stupid muslims are, if you under stood the verse in Hebrew you would know that was a description not a name stupid.

as far a the bible being corrupted, the Koran is invented and stolen from other religion including Hinduism.

[Shaer01]

Your stupidity is dripping out of your nose.

Mohamed - is an Arabic NAME. when translated to other languages , it comes out as an adjective/ Descriprtion.

PRAISED one/ Lovely/ desired... Depending on which version / Translator or language you read.

The enemy of knowledge is not ignorance , it's the illusion of knowledge. and U littlebrain1964 is full of it.

[littlelion1964]

@Shaer01:

Yet again you just proved to the world how stupid muslims are, and how they still live in the dark ages, they are so desparate they hang on by a thread of air, even when there is nothing there.

Go learn some languanges before you make an ass out of yourself and dont ever try to teach some his own language stupid.

on the other hand the world is watching , I guess I should be thanful to idiots like you who would love nothing more than to make asses out of themselves.

Go camel Jockey go

[Shaer01]

littlebrain1964, You notice that you didn't have any other arguments, you LOST and you got angry instead of learning. You just rumble some name calling behind your computer screen- just like a COWARD -

Now get your tail between your legs and leave this channel

You MONKEY.

[tahboobi]

@littlelion1964

 LOL man you are miserable

they don't pay you enough, you gotta use your brain LOL if you got any

ACTUALLY Shaer01 proved that you are nothing to be noticed and you will die so miserably if you didn't regret what you are doing :) hahaha youre so funny when you think you are right LOL keep replying I need to practice my English==>> higher grades LOL A+'s baby

[littlelion1964]

Lebanon was not Arab, it was Phoenician stupid, Arabs were only in arabia dumb ass.

and the eem or im and the end stand for plural in Hebrew. when he says hiko ( his face apearance, which is in plural here) he says mumtakeem ( plural) sweet and its plural in hebrew because he describes cheeks, lips, eyes etc.

what the author is trying to say here is : all of him( plural) was beautiful/lovely/desirable.

every time you describe a plural in Hebrew you have to add eem to the end .

Paneem ( face)

[Converted2Islam]

@littlelion1964

It is a FUTURE prophecy, the land of Lebenon will become an Arab land. That's exactly the way it is today.

[littlelion1964]

you are just as stupid as your comment .

[Azarel011]

@littlelion1964

there are many prophecies from for the final messenger. Watch all his videos, then you know exactly.

Just accept it, or do not accept it. But dont lie.

[nsaleh74]

@littlelion1964 Your the dumb ass lmfao!!!!! The Phoenicians excisted 5000yrs BC! im Lebanese i know my heritage and my history. Arabs where in Lebanon during the biblical time stupid dum dum lmfaoooo!

[littlelion1964]

Stupid,Stupid Stupid and desperate.

Go learn Hebrew idiot than translate

below is 2 different translations4 idiots like you

Webster:

His mouth is sweetness; yes, he is altogether "lovely". This is my beloved, and this is my friend, daughters of Jerusalem. Friends.

International

16 His mouth is sweetness-and all of him desirable, This is my beloved, and this my friend,O daughters of Jerusalem!

Mihumadeem in hebrew, menas beautiful, desired, its common in Hebrew, it has nothing to do with muhammd

[Simirial]

I have just read Song of Song / Solomon, in international and king James versions. The passage first mentioned 5:11 - 5:15 is entirely about a love affair, and the discriptions ( hair, skin, hair ) are discriptions of a lover, am i missing something apparent to others?

[itcrowdfan92]

Yes, because no other Prophet is described with these specific features according to scriptural teachings, than Muhammad. The Hadiths praise Muhammad's appearance like Songs 5:10-16 does. Songs 5:10 states he is radiant (white) and ruddy (red), outstanding among 10,000. Muhammad conquered Mecca peacefully in 630 CE with 10,000 followers.

The descriptions and context go together to show it's not apparent to others, apart from Muhammad

[fatibicool]

MashaAllah

May Allah bless u and all Muslims

jazakAllah khair

[osman2533]

salaamu alykum ppl, where can i watch the whole lecture? anybody please!!

JazakALLAH khair.

[MODERATECALVINISM]

what word ? I dont see his name there

[itcrowdfan92]

Here is the verse in Hebrew:

חִכֹּו֙ מַֽמְתַקִּ֔ים וְכֻלֹּ֖ו מַחֲמַדִּ֑ים זֶ֤ה דֹודִי֙ וְזֶ֣ה רֵעִ֔י בְּנֹ֖ות יְרוּשָׁלִָֽם׃

The Hebrew for Muhammad is: מַחֲמַדִּ֑

So his name is there in the Hebrew, which the Bible translators translated. You don't translate names, yet they did this.

[MODERATECALVINISM]

How do muslims interpret the holy book ? Do they use hermeneutics or spiritualize everything ?

[itcrowdfan92]

No, we don't spiritualize and emotionalize everything like Christians do. If by "holy book" you mean Quran, it is interpreted based on the Hadiths (prophetic sayings of Muhammad), historical context, the time of when verses were revealed, Arabic root words, context, and Arabic rules.

[MODERATECALVINISM]

Based on what type of interpretation does one understand songs of solemn as this gentlemen did.

If Muhammad's name meant desire, how does that prove that passage to be prophecy of him ?

[itcrowdfan92]

Based on the context is how one understands song 5:16. The context prior to Songs 5:16 in this chapter have never been fulfilled by anyone else except him, i.e. in Songs 5:10 it speak about him outstanding among 10,000.

Muhammad was forced to migrate to Medina from Mecca. He returned to conquer Mecca in the year 630 CE with 10,000 people.

The name & context of Songs 5 go together to prove that is can only refer to him.

[MODERATECALVINISM]

אֱמֹ֣ר׀ לְבֵ֣ית יִשְׂרָאֵ֗ל כֹּֽה־אָמַר֮ אֲדֹנָ֣י יְהוִה֒ הִנְנִ֨י מְחַלֵּ֤ל אֶת־מִקְדָּשִׁי֙ גְּא֣וֹן עֻזְּכֶ֔ם מַחְמַ֥ד עֵֽינֵיכֶ֖ם וּמַחְמַ֣ל נַפְשְׁכֶ֑ם וּבְנֵיכֶ֧ם וּבְנֽוֹתֵיכֶ֛ם אֲשֶׁ֥ר עֲזַבְתֶּ֖ם בַּחֶ֥רֶב יִפֹּֽלוּ׃ (Ezekiel 24:21, BHS/WHM 4.2)

[MODERATECALVINISM]

Does this mean the Lord profanes Muhammad

[itcrowdfan92]

Ezekiel 24:21 isn't describing a person either, thus you have to take the adjective of the word, & not the noun. The same word is used, but according to Babylon dictionary, this word is a "noun" & "adjective."

In Ezekiel 24:21, it is used as an adjective, because context doesn't describe a person.

If those verses you mentioned described a person, it would have had "im" at the end of the word

The author's intent in Songs 5 seems to be praising a man, in terms of physical and spiritualness.

[MODERATECALVINISM]

Please explain the me the purpose of the letter of songs ? What is the authors intent ?

[MODERATECALVINISM]

הֻכָּ֣ה אֶפְרַ֔יִם שָׁרְשָׁ֥ם יָבֵ֖שׁ פְּרִ֣י בַֽל֯י־בְלִי־בַֽל־ יַעֲשׂ֑וּן גַּ֚ם כִּ֣י יֵֽלֵד֔וּן וְהֵמַתִּ֖י מַחֲמַדֵּ֥י בִטְנָֽם׃ ס (Hosea 9:16, BHS/WHM 4.2)

what about this ?

[itcrowdfan92]

Hebrew here is "mahamaddei," in Hosea 9:16 & it does not describe a person. According to Babylon dictionary, this Hebrew word is a "noun" and "adjective." Since Hosea 9 doesn't describe a person, you use it here as an adjective by taking the meaning

i.e. the word "white" is a noun (used asa name) & an adjective, thus depending on a sentence or context, you either use it as a noun or adjective

Songs 5 has "he," and "his" which indicates it's describing a person, so you have to use the noun here

[MODERATECALVINISM]

Does this mean that muhammad has become ruins ?

בֵּ֧ית קָדְשֵׁ֣נוּ וְתִפְאַרְתֵּ֗נוּ אֲשֶׁ֤ר הִֽלְל֙וּךָ֙ אֲבֹתֵ֔ינוּ הָיָ֖ה לִשְׂרֵ֣פַת אֵ֑שׁ וְכָל־מַחֲמַדֵּ֖ינוּ הָיָ֥ה לְחָרְבָּֽה׃ (Isaiah 64:10, BHS/WHM 4.2)

Or will be ruins

[itcrowdfan92]

It is not Isaiah 64:10, it is Isaiah 64:11. The Hebrew word used is "mahamaddeinu." Depending on the context in some languages, you may have to translate it.

Hebrew used in Songs 5:16 is "Muhammadim," & the "im" at the end implies that it is for a person due to the respect "im" given in Hebrew language. Since it implies a name in this case you don't translate it. This is the ONLY verse which has "im" at the end of "Muhammad."

Context of (Songs 5) implies a man hence implies a name

[OldfashionGirl90]

God bless you brother :)

[OldfashionGirl90]

God bless you brother :)

[itcrowdfan92]

Christians will claim it means "red hair" in Songs 5:10-11. The following hadiths show that at times, Muhammad had red hair & described as having red scent: Bukhari Book 56 Number 747, Book 72 Number 784, Book 72 Number 785.

He is also described as being handsome in a red cloak: Bukhari, Book 56 Number 751, Book 72 Number 788.

Shamaa-il Timidhi, Chapter 1 Number 4, Chapter 1 Number 6, Chapter 8 Number 9, Chapter 8 Number 10, Chapter 6 Number 1, Chapter 1 Number 9.

[cakewithspoon]

May Allah bless you.

[Bashir38]

Excellent lecture. We can not thank Allah enough for blessing us with Islam or for making beloved Muhammad (PBUH) our prophet. Jazak Allah Khair.

[aboayoub]

good

keep doing videos like this

[dangflo]

mashallah

[isalhia]

Mashallah, great lecture and full of information. May Allah guide us all. I look forward to part 7 inshallah.

[UalhashimiU]

here is muhammad name in ancient hebrew محمد מחמד in arabic..its somwat inverted.

[haveyouseenmypikachu]

Youre so awesome mashAllah! May Allah swt grant you into his beautiful gardens and bless you each and every day! :) Jazakulallah khair, Keep doing what youre doing bro. May Allah swt reward you for all of this inshAllah!