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  • great movie!!! 

  • This concept explains a bumper sticker I came up with years ago...it said, "Lyrics are for people who cannot understand music!" The music itself tells what the composer was feeling and experiencing. The emotions are there in a very tangible form. Lyrics are not needed to convey the language of the heart.

  • Gary Oldman is a god among men. His face is the work of angels, and his talent his far above most other actors of our time. Ugh. Want.

  • Why. Why must this be so underrated?

  • Aww, you had to cut out the last 2 measures of the Kreutzer at the end. Ugh! Robbed....

  • Beethoven is a great inspiration for all musicians around the world. Beethoven is the essence of music itself. He is simply a music GOD in his own universe and uses his music in a simplistic manner. I dont believe anyone can truly reach his level on music, but thats just my opinion.

  • This is definitely my favorite part of the movie

  • DOES anyone know what piece of music this is being played and showed to this man,, i dont know what sonata this is

  • @avahda Violin Sonata #9 .. The Kreutzer 1st movement.

  • 1:49 amazing

  • Who needs God when there's Beethoven! Actually, I believe that was said of Mozart, but it is just as true.

  • "But like this...." one of the best lines in a movie.

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  • Kreutzer: The best violin sonata ever written. (I recomend Viktoria Mullovas recording)

  • this.... is the sound of his agitation...

    epicness

  • A black guy playing a violin?! Now thats a miracle.

  • but in that case you can only write sad music when you are sad, and happy music when your happy, or serious music when you are serious... and that is no not entirely true

  • @faleru :

    Yes it could. Happy music writen by someone who was sad...

    might still make you feel sad.

    It'd be surpricing... but I'm pretty sure it has a presedent.

  • Music really is like this. When you hear it it does take you somewhere.

  • who is that black violinist

  • its nelson mandela.

  • @abluesman100 It's George Bridgetower. Beethoven originally wanted to dedicated his famous Kreutzer Sonate to Bridgetower instead to Rodolphe Kreutzer, but Bridgetower insulted some woman around Beethoven, so this didn't happen.

  • the TRUE story of this encounter was, the prodigy said Beethoven played....he banged on the piano forte`

    Totally fucked it up. he couldn't play.....Hollywood cleans up history doesn't it? That it was a rehearsal was correct. That it was an African prodigy is correct. However....Beethoven so muddled the rehearsal that behind Ludwigs back a conductor stood behind ludwig up in the rafters when this premiered to great success...

  • Beethoven thought he was back on top....Little did he know it was because of others who helped it!

  • From Beethoven to the Beatles, the power of music remains the same.

  • My favorite Beethoven song. I have loved misoc all of my life. I never knew why until I saw this scene. It finally solved the mystery. Thank You for this timeless classic. Who is this violinist?? I know Bridgewater did play with Beethoven for a short while.

  • great scene - this is a close second to the scene in amadeus when salieri takes notes from mozart as he composes the requiem .

  • Wow, ive had this scene on my mind since i saw this movie!! Thanks for the post!!!!!

  • The idea conveyed in this scene is common in all great art. I've always been suprised about how many people that I've met , who call themselves artist, don't understand this.

  • My favorite scene. Thanks so much for posting it.

  • Gary Oldman did brilliant job acting as Ludwig van Beethoven. This is the perfect video that defines true music.

  • this is the perfect description of what the beethoven's music does...

  • I have been explaining to my students how to interpret Beethoven' music for many years . It is so interesting to watch from film what Beethoven explain the meaning of music . I visited his house long time ago in Vienna .This film brought me wonderful memories when I studied in Vienna . Thank you for posting

  • I love how he's wearing the same black coat and red scarf that he wears in that painting, like it was the only thing he ever wore lol.

  • Gary Oldman, what an actor. He can play the piano for real! And how he looks like Luigi still amazes me. I just saw another famous musician on TV: Nigel Kennedy. I think Oldman and Kennedy looks similar in a way.

  • Various friends and I have watched this film and we still shout at the tv screen...NO take the other stairway...... stupid woman putting his note under the doily. : ^ )

    Great film.

  • The most deep scene and diolog ever made in cinema's history!

    Gary oldman+Jeroen Krabbé+Kreutzer Sonata= True Art!

  • carriage has broken down in the rain...Wheels stuck in the mud.......She will only wait so long.

  • Gary Oldman for president 08'

  • "i cannot hear them, but i can tell they're making a hash of it"

    I love that quote

  • i know they're making a hash of it* damn typos.

  • Beethoven...TE AMO!!!!!

  • I have to ask: an african violinist in 18th century Germany? Is this historically or politically correct?

  • George Bridgetower....historically accurate.

  • @feurzug it`s not correct

  • @feurzug absolutley! there were Africans during that time who were not enslaved, in fact there were some Africans in America who owned slaves themselves

  • What a wonderfully crafted scene..Oldman is amazing..

  • What a touching scene ! gary Oldman IS Beethoven...

  • yeah, this is a great scene. This was actually originally written by Tolstoy, though. It's from The Death of Ivan Ilyich and Other Short Stories (I think the title of the story was actually "The Kreutzer Sonata" :P).

    Still, great scene, Gary Oldman is perfect as Beethoven :D! And, of course, Beethoven's music is beyond description...

  • Who was Ludwig Van Beethoven? simple answer...God´s Musician.

  • Idon't agree with you

    I think this:

    Who was Ludwig Van Beethoven?

    The power of the genius mankind

  • This sonata is The Kreutzer sonata, movement one. Didn't you hear Schindler say it at the beginning?

  • what sonata is this?

  • Man, this is defidently my favorite part of the film. Thank you for uploading this clip.

  • One of my favorite scenes from one of my favorite movies. Thanks for uploading this! It's not often that a movie has a scene or story that affects your life or changes your perspective, but this is one of those for me. It really opened my eyes to understanding music and art. Wonderfully done on every level.

  • This is a cool scene, especially for a movie I haven't seen (I was told about it on a forum).

    Is this movie really good?

  • Its not in the same league as Amadeus, but its not that bad none the less. Its actually rather touching in some areas, and Oldman's performance is amazing.

  • Very well said!

  • on the contrary, I think this film is more meaningul than Amadeus can ever be. For me, Amadeus is just a Hollywood movie made to "entertain", this movie however actullay teaches people who don't know about music, what "Music" is actually about. It's far more "accurate" than Amadeus, even if it's fictious still. Plus, Oldman's performance is peerless.

  • Amadeus is a classic and Great..And so is Immortal Beloved. I will say this...Amadeus is a better film..But Immortal Beloved NEEDS to be watched also..Its a GREAT film.

  • check it out, it's commissioner gordon!

  • Arghhhh Gary Oldman is such sex in this film. <3

  • ha ha ha :P

  • One of my fave parts in the whole flick....WHAT IS MUSIC?....

    I love it :-)

  • beautifull beautifull , genius genius just like this movie

  • Music is a dreadful thing...

  • "Music is a... dreadful thing. What is it? I don't understand it. What does it do?"

  • I love this part.

    One of my favourites!

    I LOVE THE WHOLE MOVIE!

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