There is a videp of an F-14 changing the geomotry of the wings all though it is a short video. It shows it starting with a short flame coming out of the exaust.
I'll complain about the flying characteristics and trim, much less wing and and landing gear retraction when I can afford to buy, build and learn to fly one. Kudos to this owner and pilot. Haters keep hatin' cause that's probably all you got.
It IS a real plane. It has a real turbine engine, control surfaces, wheels, even a good pilot. just about everything a full scale jet has except weapons, radar, etc. A human just can't sit in it thats the only difference
can any one give us an idea how to buy those smaller turbine engines ? if they wasn't in marked , i would be appreciated for a plan of creating one even .
@youssefqazwsx Some manufacturers of model jet turbines are JetCat, AMT, JetBeetle, PST, Jet Joe, FunSonic, SimJet, USAMT, Wren, etc. Google is your best friend when it comes to finding a distributor.
If you are thinking of building one, I'd personally recommend buying Kurt Schreckling's book - Gas turbine engines for model aircraft. It has detailed instructions and schematics covering the fabrication and assembly of the KJ66 gas turbine.
@scrfce123 wow , a appreciate the reply , well , about the RC jet , maybe ill start with some book about electronic and some physics air theory , i had a career about that but i switched to computer networking.
maybe this will be my hobby ;-) , and even more explore some new ideas about it
by the way i just purchase the Kurt Schreckling's book from amazon (used $25)
any idea how much more tail heavy it makes a plane, to swing the wings back, or how much more unstable it makes it flying at anything but WOT? BTW the wings dont retract, they swing
The point of swept wings is to reduce high speed drag. Its extremely hard to take off with them already engaged(like flying wings) but you gain a lot of speed up top. Swing, retract, its all a difference in vocab.
Have you ever flown a rc plane that has a swing wing setup? The plane MIGHT dip a little if you swing the wings. Even though this jet is undoubtedly heavier than your average swing wing EDF it wouldn't act much different, I would know, I witnessed a big F14 like this one swing the wings in and out at the Joe Nall rc air show....
Actually I have flown a swing wing plane, Kyosho has one, and it makes a huge difference, the same as when you retract and engage gear. You witnessed a rc plane flying once? amazing, well you must be an expert then. Whatever you say buddy, you watched a RC air show once, you must know way more than me. Do you even fly RC planes yourself?
And the plane will not DIP a little, the plane will become TAIL HEAVY, which makes ALL planes, RC and not, hard to fly and control. You might know this is you fly anything, RC or not, maybe go back to playing with cars, and leave the RC stuff to people who have actually flown rc planes, not someone who has watched an rc airshow, and TopGun the movie
I have flown a F14 swing wing EDF, it belongs to my friends dad. When I engaged the wings the plane started to descend slightly which was easily countered. I didn't notice it being hard to control, it just maneuvered very quickly. I've been flying planes for a little under 5 years now and I didn't start off with little trainers. My first plane was a 40" megatech flying wing, not an easy plane for a first timer to fly. Seriously flying rc planes is not hard, try flying a REAL Extra Ea-300.
That's good, that means he setup the F14 swing wing properly with LOTS OF NOSE WEIGHT, so when you swing them back, it doesn't become tail heavy, stall and fall out of the sky... and much harder to fly most RC planes than real ones, in regards to the actual flying, and perspective, while a real one has more issues about airspeed and structural issues, but good for you, glad you have some clue anyways
honestly the only harder part to flying a "REAL" aircraft aposted to an R/C aircraft is all of the pannel instroments and electronics. but stick movement and manuvering is alot easyer apposed to and R/C aircraft. when and R/C plane is facing you the stick controls are backwords and it is challanging to get "GOOD" muscle memory.
I totally agree.. as a CFI for full scale and 20 year modeler, i have seen so many full scale pilot almost crash when i gave them control of the model. Meanwhile, most modelers can fly a full scale aircraft reasonably well except for the last 200' before touching down (the equivelent of about 10' above the ground with a model.
The Center of gravity does move aft as the wings move aft, but the center of lift moves aft too which has a greater effect on the planes handeling. There is actually a vane that comes out of the fixed leading edge of the wing called a Kress Vane, it is to add area ahead of the CG to help counter act the aft center of lift. It basically moves the center of lift forward because the CG was too far forward. Please do not knock people on here, everyone has something to learn, Even you.
You are correct. As I posted on the other comments. When the wing moves aft, the center of lift moves aft more then the Center of Gravity. This makes the plane nose heavy. Grumman countered this with a moveable weight . A AMA article on the F-14 ended with a crash because they did not account for this effect and had small elevators instead of movable elevons. The small elevators were not effective enough to keep the nose up with the drastically fwd cg and the plane "dipped" into the ground.
Dude if you build these you'd realize how rediculusly complicated this machine is without sweeping wings, let alone WITH them, and its only about 1/9 scale.
that's at least a 1500$ plane, if not 2k, unless it's fake jet, ducted fan. Sounds like a turbine to me though. What's the BS about no retracts? Lazy plane builders.:-P
Joder... esta ching... el avion solo le falta ladrar!!!!.... por lo perron..... lo unico que le falto fue que cambiara de geometria y que subiera los trenes
"Why not make the landing gear retractable and put something in the afterburners like some lights on a dimmer so the lights get brighter with the acceleration? "
If this was the first flight, they will just make sure the plane is trimmed out and works properly (just like a real plane making a first flight) then after all the checks are complete, they will retract the gear, and then finally sweep the wings. Some of these models cost upwards of $30,000.00 so you dont want to rush anything.
your a great pilot, thank you for making the video, please make another one with 180 degree rolls and maybe 360 if you can, look forward to seeing another great video.
hudo
lol97255 3 months ago
There is a videp of an F-14 changing the geomotry of the wings all though it is a short video. It shows it starting with a short flame coming out of the exaust.
57rcpilot 6 months ago
Only thing that would have made this video even cooler is if they had "Danger Zone" by Kenny Loggins playing in the background. haha
ekherd 8 months ago
That's a pretty kool jet, the landing was pretty rough though, surprised the landing gear withstood the force...
Scrubsfanatic90 9 months ago
I'll complain about the flying characteristics and trim, much less wing and and landing gear retraction when I can afford to buy, build and learn to fly one. Kudos to this owner and pilot. Haters keep hatin' cause that's probably all you got.
cudacrusher 11 months ago
Man, is ANYONE gonna post a vid of one of these and show the wings sweeping/retracting?
djmp69 1 year ago
It IS a real plane. It has a real turbine engine, control surfaces, wheels, even a good pilot. just about everything a full scale jet has except weapons, radar, etc. A human just can't sit in it thats the only difference
djmp69 1 year ago
wow..very impressive but why is the landing gear still there while flying
dieexplorer 1 year ago
wow..very impressive
dieexplorer 1 year ago
wow this thing sounds amazing, very cool!
mando074 1 year ago
it looks just like real about 200feet away
glazuna 1 year ago
Very cool. Someone put a great deal of complex work into that airplane. Even sounds right!
CRsBeem 1 year ago
birds is so dangerous!!
hooshock 1 year ago
can any one give us an idea how to buy those smaller turbine engines ? if they wasn't in marked , i would be appreciated for a plan of creating one even .
youssefqazwsx 1 year ago
@youssefqazwsx Some manufacturers of model jet turbines are JetCat, AMT, JetBeetle, PST, Jet Joe, FunSonic, SimJet, USAMT, Wren, etc. Google is your best friend when it comes to finding a distributor.
If you are thinking of building one, I'd personally recommend buying Kurt Schreckling's book - Gas turbine engines for model aircraft. It has detailed instructions and schematics covering the fabrication and assembly of the KJ66 gas turbine.
scrfce123 1 year ago
@scrfce123 wow , a appreciate the reply , well , about the RC jet , maybe ill start with some book about electronic and some physics air theory , i had a career about that but i switched to computer networking.
maybe this will be my hobby ;-) , and even more explore some new ideas about it
by the way i just purchase the Kurt Schreckling's book from amazon (used $25)
youssefqazwsx 1 year ago
in the air it looks just so real... I can see the difference only in sound of engine....
glazuna 1 year ago
i would want 1 of those. I think i speake 4 every1 when i say i would hve trouble landin it
killahkid46 2 years ago
i wonder how much this cost
MasterofPuppets343 2 years ago
Sounds like a EDF with the turbine noise added plus no exhaust and no heat haze, are you sure....LOL
ymmmmij 2 years ago
que pinche ediccion tan fea quien lo edito .... pendejos..
elhackerinox 2 years ago
very good flying...good job!!!
JODA21N 2 years ago
Great show!
This model close the wings too?
GKOBE 3 years ago
Nice flying.
XxDethninjaxX 3 years ago
the camara guy did a good work he capture a nice sound of a nice flying jet!!!
elparca2 3 years ago
where did you guys get this plane
Otwwrestling 3 years ago
why no retracts?
horizonflyer9 3 years ago
cool jerk
hlbgem69 3 years ago
nice landing but slower than that it could stall.
nice flying!
houle199 3 years ago
i tried to stall, see the weave it did right before touch down?
godofcable111 3 years ago
no new couch?! about no new car!
tuscanland 3 years ago
I have an idea of taking a flat-bed 18-wheeler and converting it into an aircraft carrier! It cost a lot to build but, it would kick ass!!
jonboogy 3 years ago
Awesome... totally awesome.. and totally expensive machine
DrWiz010101 3 years ago
well if they gonna pluck in the 10s of thousands, they could have at least had the RETRACTING WINGS like a REAL F14
DFPeedOn 3 years ago
any idea how much more tail heavy it makes a plane, to swing the wings back, or how much more unstable it makes it flying at anything but WOT? BTW the wings dont retract, they swing
warderseeker 3 years ago
The point of swept wings is to reduce high speed drag. Its extremely hard to take off with them already engaged(like flying wings) but you gain a lot of speed up top. Swing, retract, its all a difference in vocab.
Pro60modman 3 years ago
Yes, I know what swept wings, reducing high drag means, do you know what center of gravity and stall speed on wing loading means?
warderseeker 3 years ago
Have you ever flown a rc plane that has a swing wing setup? The plane MIGHT dip a little if you swing the wings. Even though this jet is undoubtedly heavier than your average swing wing EDF it wouldn't act much different, I would know, I witnessed a big F14 like this one swing the wings in and out at the Joe Nall rc air show....
Pro60modman 3 years ago
Actually I have flown a swing wing plane, Kyosho has one, and it makes a huge difference, the same as when you retract and engage gear. You witnessed a rc plane flying once? amazing, well you must be an expert then. Whatever you say buddy, you watched a RC air show once, you must know way more than me. Do you even fly RC planes yourself?
warderseeker 3 years ago
And the plane will not DIP a little, the plane will become TAIL HEAVY, which makes ALL planes, RC and not, hard to fly and control. You might know this is you fly anything, RC or not, maybe go back to playing with cars, and leave the RC stuff to people who have actually flown rc planes, not someone who has watched an rc airshow, and TopGun the movie
warderseeker 3 years ago
I have flown a F14 swing wing EDF, it belongs to my friends dad. When I engaged the wings the plane started to descend slightly which was easily countered. I didn't notice it being hard to control, it just maneuvered very quickly. I've been flying planes for a little under 5 years now and I didn't start off with little trainers. My first plane was a 40" megatech flying wing, not an easy plane for a first timer to fly. Seriously flying rc planes is not hard, try flying a REAL Extra Ea-300.
Pro60modman 3 years ago
That's good, that means he setup the F14 swing wing properly with LOTS OF NOSE WEIGHT, so when you swing them back, it doesn't become tail heavy, stall and fall out of the sky... and much harder to fly most RC planes than real ones, in regards to the actual flying, and perspective, while a real one has more issues about airspeed and structural issues, but good for you, glad you have some clue anyways
warderseeker 3 years ago
it's a 40 yrs old technology, so stfu you two
iZahik 3 years ago
LOL yes, 40 year old tech, so...? we were done, now it's probably back on Thanks for your input now mind your own shit lol
warderseeker 3 years ago
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paulflyer 2 years ago
honestly the only harder part to flying a "REAL" aircraft aposted to an R/C aircraft is all of the pannel instroments and electronics. but stick movement and manuvering is alot easyer apposed to and R/C aircraft. when and R/C plane is facing you the stick controls are backwords and it is challanging to get "GOOD" muscle memory.
derderpaintballguy 2 years ago
I totally agree.. as a CFI for full scale and 20 year modeler, i have seen so many full scale pilot almost crash when i gave them control of the model. Meanwhile, most modelers can fly a full scale aircraft reasonably well except for the last 200' before touching down (the equivelent of about 10' above the ground with a model.
paulflyer 2 years ago
hey thanks for the reply happy flying from one pilot to another...
derderpaintballguy 2 years ago
The Center of gravity does move aft as the wings move aft, but the center of lift moves aft too which has a greater effect on the planes handeling. There is actually a vane that comes out of the fixed leading edge of the wing called a Kress Vane, it is to add area ahead of the CG to help counter act the aft center of lift. It basically moves the center of lift forward because the CG was too far forward. Please do not knock people on here, everyone has something to learn, Even you.
paulflyer 2 years ago
You are correct. As I posted on the other comments. When the wing moves aft, the center of lift moves aft more then the Center of Gravity. This makes the plane nose heavy. Grumman countered this with a moveable weight . A AMA article on the F-14 ended with a crash because they did not account for this effect and had small elevators instead of movable elevons. The small elevators were not effective enough to keep the nose up with the drastically fwd cg and the plane "dipped" into the ground.
paulflyer 2 years ago
If it crashes you go home to your wife and explain to her why she isn't going to get that new couch shes been wanting.
myhappylilsunshine 3 years ago 2
great landing
TheUnforgettableLion 3 years ago
2 things,bring the gear up and move the wings and go supersonic lol ok 3 things
RPHELPS922 3 years ago
it's not a "toy", it's a UAV! lol
phugedaboudet 3 years ago
RG???????????????
miketacoma5 3 years ago
how much are those things dude they gotta be at least fricken 1800 bucks for 1
SeanSennett94 3 years ago
HAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHA this statement seriiusly mad me lol.
Each one of the engines on this plane are at least in the 3 thousand dollar range, all in all they have at least 10k dollars in this toy.
theshadowonme 3 years ago 2
id say for 10k thatsnot a toy thats anice used car lmao
SeanSennett94 3 years ago 4
A nice used car for $10,000 ? shit I could get a 57 Belair with a I6 that needs paint for $6,000 locally
Milner62 3 years ago
lmao nice
SeanSennett94 3 years ago
@SeanSennett94
no they are 99.99 at trendtimes
josepcard 2 months ago
looks like he almost hit a bird at 3:47
masteriansun 3 years ago
thats fucking sweet, can i buy one of those n for liek how much like 10 thousand dollars or sumthing cuz that shits fucking tank
mthompson24 3 years ago
Try to fly it along freeway in front of other cars following it behind :)
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kolokoyz46 3 years ago
Nice flight! The swept wing feature would have been impressive, but i guess it wasn't built with it. No matter, you guys put on a good show!
169pepsi 3 years ago
very impressive. You're a great pilot!
Azzkik411 3 years ago
if u remember the movie stuart little he can now fight in jets lol
bongowongowongo 3 years ago
now theres a quick landing for ya lol
tnkdanio 4 years ago
Sounds like a pair of hair dryers for the engines.
As for not sweeping the wings, it might not have enough power to stay airborn in swept wing config.
gdfsob 4 years ago
Dude if you build these you'd realize how rediculusly complicated this machine is without sweeping wings, let alone WITH them, and its only about 1/9 scale.
Shadowtech666 4 years ago
you can sweep the wings mechanically or set up as retract setup on this model, same goes for the landing gear.
Pro60modman 3 years ago
which all means more weight, and swinging the wings also changes the center of gravity, and will make it fly like shit, unless it's WOT
warderseeker 3 years ago
idk if it would have enough lift and thrust with the wings swept back.
skymont 3 years ago
What you need to do now is somehow attach bottle rockets with canisters and BB gun cannons to it. Think of the possibilities.
MyliyeTJ 4 years ago 2
why you didn't retract the gear?
yogurtlite 4 years ago
You don't own that plane the tax payers do!!
TS9321 4 years ago
Negative, Ghostrider. The pattern is full.
dmitrineilovich 4 years ago
Goose, I'm going to buzz the tower.
That's not a good idea, Mav!
ShotsloppyD 4 years ago
I swear to god if you screw up even this much.... Youl be flying a cargo plane full of rubber dogshit out of Hong Kong
mtoad 4 years ago 13
good work fella
u01snr 3 years ago
cool
bustedboys65619 4 years ago
how much did it cost?
dotbadburn 4 years ago
whats with no restract wings ITS THE F-14 thats what it is famous for damn them
chippy91223322 4 years ago
maybe the wings aint that correctly shaped so i might not fly with retracted wings ??? nice plane all the same :D xxx
jthqrules 4 years ago
that's at least a 1500$ plane, if not 2k, unless it's fake jet, ducted fan. Sounds like a turbine to me though. What's the BS about no retracts? Lazy plane builders.:-P
dasquirrel715 4 years ago
It looks hard to fly and exspensive. What if it crashes?OUCH!!!!
Nice Nice Nice Plane
dietcoke3396 4 years ago
good video.....nice job by those guys...that jet looked very real....
chavofeshfesh 4 years ago
Joder... esta ching... el avion solo le falta ladrar!!!!.... por lo perron..... lo unico que le falto fue que cambiara de geometria y que subiera los trenes
trucututrucu 4 years ago
that is great work to all who had a hand in this project thanks
my4x4bronco80 4 years ago
cool
albundyhun 4 years ago
"Why not make the landing gear retractable and put something in the afterburners like some lights on a dimmer so the lights get brighter with the acceleration? "
Because that's unnecessary weight.
standaway1 4 years ago 3
awsomE!! i wish there is an RC that can fire a reaL missiLe, LOl
rhys009 4 years ago
Sweet! God i missed those f-14's i used to fix. It was replaced by the Stealthed Super Hornets E and F model around 2005. Hooya! US NAVY!!!
joyjeff0403 4 years ago
F/A-18 hornets are not stealthy and it's "hoorah" not "hooya."
EthernalHypha 4 years ago
Although the term is varied and used quite widely, the Navy does indeed say hooya, among other things.
ilangsfs 4 years ago
They can get exspensive if u go all out, but u can set up a basic jet model for Aus$2500. About as much as a decked out rc car.
rambosmurph 4 years ago
IF ONly it had retracting landing gear and folding wings
ruckin123 4 years ago 2
how much do these models plane go for
Illkid1200 4 years ago
why can't these close their wings and pull up their gears? very nice flight
peti1024 4 years ago
If this was the first flight, they will just make sure the plane is trimmed out and works properly (just like a real plane making a first flight) then after all the checks are complete, they will retract the gear, and then finally sweep the wings. Some of these models cost upwards of $30,000.00 so you dont want to rush anything.
phelan34 4 years ago
where do you buy them?
standaway1 4 years ago
thw best
samio4love 4 years ago
How much will cost a Model as this one? can you send me the link for building one too?? Thanks
Hey that was a really good fly
DolphinTony 4 years ago
Just 2 things :-
1) Nice
2) Pls post more vids of this Babe (with VG wing sweeps & retracted U/C)
TQ !!
leadsolo 4 years ago
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10548758 4 years ago
pretty cool
Skulls2300 4 years ago
Wow that last landing scene looks like a scene from the movie Top Gun
Ryanfun1 4 years ago
actually no, it doesnt.
michaelmyers1993 4 years ago
Landing gear retracting? How about the wings folding back? Might as well be an A-10. Good flying though.
karate247 4 years ago
your a great pilot, thank you for making the video, please make another one with 180 degree rolls and maybe 360 if you can, look forward to seeing another great video.
rcguy911 4 years ago
Nice! That wasn't that rough of a landing. I've seen worse.
SPCLPONY 4 years ago
Exelent video!!! thumbs up
rymen 5 years ago
The variable-geometric wings don't retract either?
EagleDriver1 5 years ago
that was a rough landing for sure
Tsukiola 5 years ago
Looks great guys.
othur 5 years ago
sooooo... can the landing gear not retract? that would really help the look and drag.
lastastronaut 5 years ago
well, retractable gear would be purely for aesthetics. at that speed and streamline shape the gear ain't adding much drag at all.
snudge86 5 years ago
of course the gears are adding a ton of drag... just like the real one
pratoriann 4 years ago