@35gears Well, physically most Scandinavians are pretty similar to most Irishmen. Likely because the Irish have so much Scandinavian blood in them just from getting raped by Viking raiders, and from the years the Danes ruled Ireland there was some intermixing between the two groups.
However, I think the Irish would win. They invented whiskey and have a longer history with distilled drinks, which lends more tolerance to them.
People.... Anything pagan is awesome! Norse, celtic, finno-ugric, baltic, slavic, it's just a matter of preference. My favorite pagan band? I'd say Korpiklaani, Månegarm or Auringon Hauta.
@Bear7o7 And Amon Amarth is melodeath with viking metal themed lyrics, Tyr is progressive metal, Suidakra is melodic black metal and sometimes melodic death metal with bagpipes, and Skiltron is power metal with lyrics about the Scottish clans and bagpipes. Fitting all this junk into the title is simply impossible, so I chose to call it Viking metal vs Celtic metal.
@Bear7o7 Also, Eluveitie sings in an old Celtic language much of the time, Uses many celtic folk instruments, sings about Celtic themes, and plays metal. Combine those and you end up with Celtic Metal. Good enough for me.
@guitar0wnz There is a genre called viking metal o.O there is no actual genre called celtic metal...Alt, Av, black, Christian, crust punk, death, doom, extreme, folk, funk, glam, gothic, grindcore, groove, industrial, core, neo-classical, nu, post, power, prog, rap, speed, stoner, symphonic, thrash, traditional, viking...are the forms of heavy metal Celtic metal is just a name for Folk metal with Celtic themes so its a side, side genre whereas Viking metal is a full sub-genre...
@valdyrgramr 'christian metal' is not a genre grindcore is not a form of metal glam is not a form of metal nu 'metal' is not a form of metal 'rap metal' is not a form of metal 'classical metal' is not a form of metal 'funk metal' is not a form of metal 'alternative metal' is not a form of metal crust punk is not a form of metal and you know nothing about metal
@guitar0wnz So technically Celtic is a fan term, not an official term for a full genre of metal like viking metal which was created first anyways by a dude called Quorthon back in 1988 with Bathory's Blood Fire Death, the first full viking metal album though was Bathory's 1990 Hammerheart with the classic one rode to asa bay.
@guitar0wnz Okay troll, go listen to Bathory's Hammerheart and everything by Tyr, that is viking metal, a full subgenre of heavy metal, Celtic metal is not a subgenre, its just a side genre of folk metal these are facts, are you a catholic troll?
@valdyrgramr there is no such thing as a 'side genre' so idk what you're on about but there is a subgenre of folk called Celtic Folk and there's already a name for what you want to categorize as 'viking' it's called pagan.
@guitar0wnz Amon Amarth is not viking metal, retards call them that lol they are Melodic Death Metal with viking themed lyrics like how Nile is fucking Death Metal with Egyptian themes, Celtic metal is not real as a full subgenre, its just folk metal with celtic themes! Viking metal was created in 1988 by Bathory who is also black metal, thrash metal and prog metal you fucking retard, Korn and Slipknot are Nu metal fucktard, I never called Amon Amarth viking metal!
@valdyrgramr Celtic metal is defined by the instruments used and the song structure aswell as the overall theme. Nu metal is not metal lol silly poseur.
@guitar0wnz Viking metal uses a variety of instruments, they don't use just guitars low tuned, bass, drums and a vocalist, they include keyboards, violns, fluets, many other instruments as well have you even heard of bathory? or Are you fucking stupid? Grindcore is real, Crustpunk is real, Christina metal is real its also known as unblackene or unblack metal! With these Christian lyrical themes v.v but we can have pagan metal right? Learn more about metal you close minded fuck.
@valdyrgramr yes grindcore and crust punk exist but that doesn't make them any type of of metal. Learn the difference between the two before posting stupidity.
@guitar0wnz "A Fine Day to Die" and "Blood Fire Death" By Bathory were the first two viking metal songs, "One Rode To Asa Bay" is a song by Bathory about the Christianization of Scandinavia and appears on the 1990 album Hammerheart. The first FULL viking metal band, the thing is is viking metal and pagan metal are kinda the same thing, when they use Norse pagan elements in the song its pagan metal, when its about the viking age its viking metal, not every viking is pagan you retard.
@valdyrgramr Those are black metal songs with thrash and folk metal influences, not 'viking metal' and you seem to know pagan metal exists why do fail to see why that's a genre and 'viking' metal isn't?
@guitar0wnz I think I know more about this than you, I'm Norwegian this is my fucking heritage, I come from some of the most fierce Norwegian Nordic Vikings if you really believe everything Viking is Norse Pagan then you have no grasp of the History and are just pissy metalhead who is pulling shit out of their ass.
@guitar0wnz I said about Norse and Vikings it sure as Hel does, I love how you aren't creating a foundation to support yourself that auto makes you full of shit and most likely a troll.
@guitar0wnz Quorthon Interview look it up, he created viking metal and he explains it right there you fucktard so I'm going to take his word far over yours :D thank you for failing jackass.
@guitar0wnz The first part with Bathory...that is what he is talking about...he just summed it up what they were doing, he just doesn't like spilling his guts out about it, if you knew anything about bathory, you'd know he was talking about viking metal, its all he ever called that part of bathory, tyr calls it viking metal, want me to list 1418 more bands who call it that? To prove you wrong? I'm sure your word is far more accurate than theirs right?
@guitar0wnz Now also explain to me what Korn is, What Slipknot is, what stryper is, what about Napalm Death the kings of grindcore? oh yeah, those aren't bands? rap metal is that shit Ice-T did with his one band body count btw...so yes there are documentaries on this, tv shows on this by bands, managers, and others whose job is to know this who say what I'm saying vs your word? A fans? Take in the scent of your failure D:
@valdyrgramr slapnuts and korn are nu 'metal' which is basically post grunge with hip-hop influences and rarely any metal influences. yes Napalm Death is grindcore, grindcore is basically hardcore punk, not even close to metal. There's rap rock but no rap metal because that would be nu 'metal' which is unmetal. There are documentaries that say Sodom is death metal which is the dumbest thing I've since people calling derpcore metal. Learn your genres you musically illiterate child.
@guitar0wnz No, he was talking about the part after they were black metal only, at first yes they were black metal, but they created something knew and they had to be careful and wise. And grindcore is metal, noizecore is not really metal that is more punk oriented if you at bands like anal cunt.
@valdyrgramr grindcore is not metal it is hardcore punk and give me the time in the interview where he starts saying anything about 'viking' metal because I can't find anything in that video even remotely related to what you're talking about
@guitar0wnz Nu Metal I wouldn't say is traditional metal but is still oddly metal, Stryper is the foundation of Christian metal, Sodom is black early black like first wave around when Bathory started and thrash metal, but yeah Bathory started viking metal in the late 80s but at first it was just a side of black metal till the 2nd wave of black metal came and started fusing things and it was then that viking metal sprouted into a full subgenre.
@valdyrgramr Nu 'metal' is not metal and is unmetal; it lacks all the elements of metal aswell as the metal song structure not to mention the god awful screaming found in nu derp, another thing that is non metal and you've already proven you don't know what metal is so there's no need to keep up this lame act and 'christian metal' is not a genre and fyi nu derp is a fusion genre of post grunge and hip hop. I thought I should teach you something
@guitar0wnz Tyr, Windir, Turisas, Enslaved, Einherjer, Destroy Destroy Destroy, Kampfar, I, Unleashed, Moonsorrow, XIV Dark Centuries, Helheim, Godkiller, Falkenbach, Enslaved, Ensiferum, lumsk, are just a small amount of viking metal bands...Celtic metal is a subgenre of folk metal that developed in the 1990s in Ireland....so you see Viking metal auto wins as it is its own subgenre whereas Celtic is just a side genre of Folk metal lol.
@valdyrgramr That's the most disjointed and unconvincing argument I've ever read. Since celtic metal is a subgenre of folk metal it is inferior to viking metal which is a subgenre of black metal? Yeah, might need to work on that a bit.
@purplesquirrl No, viking metal is a full subgenre now, it was at first a side genre of both Folk and Black metal but it became so much more vast that is ended up as its own subgenre of metal so its no longer a side genre...for a genre to no longer to be a side it needs to things one, to be out for a certain amount of time I don't remember the total but Viking metal has been around since the 80s vs the 90s with Celtic, Celtic may at most have a few hundred bands...viking THOUSANDS
@purplesquirrl So its the amount of bands and the time length as well for its own existence...I'd give Celtic time length but they need a shit load more bands lol think of it this way, viking metal is like 30 year old adult creative adult; whereas, Celtic metal is a creative 15 year old....I'm not saying oh fuck Celtic metal lol I love both but Viking metal has been around longer and had more time to blossom which it did, its like Viking is Neil Peart and Celtic is Mike Portnoy.
@purplesquirrl Both are amazing for what they are and what they do right and in a sense the only difference is themes....I wasn't dissing one or the other, I was just saying that viking metal is a full subgenre, its real I'm not the one who set that I'm just stating that it is so if you want to argue you'd have to go yell at the Quorthon's grave....cuz he kinda started all this lol not me I'm just stating the facts opinion wise I do like viking metal better.
@purplesquirrl And I like it better metalwise because its more in your face, fierce, the theme is off a warrior religion so it should be called viking pagan metal when I think of it I think of Thor smashing frost giants....fierce warriors raiding, killing for honor and survival...wisdom....to me that is more metal that right there is my opinion, I do love Celtic metal but when you think of it its like a hot Celtic babe singing melodic vocals of Ireland...no offense lol...
@purplesquirrl Sorry for the confusion lol but Viking metal has been declared by industries and fans together as full subgenre that has elements of black and folk metal but you can't really if you were to fully look at viking metal as a whole as a side genre, I think and this is my opinion that if Celtic had more time, got a few more bands than I would fight and many others for it as well to be its own full subgenre like we did for viking metal.
@purplesquirrl But, what my point was, was as I said it was not saying one is better than the other, I was just stating its existence and what it is...and I was stating those bands as a few for them to check out not oh fuck you here is some this is my opinion lol and here are a few popular bands you might like, personally my fave is Tyr. Also I think Celtic metal isn't actually a full sub vs side is because its background doesn't have as strong of a backing foundation like viking
@purplesquirrl And, I only say that because I think Celtic metal is just when a Folk metal band adds lyrical themes that are...Celtic; whereas, viking metal was started by Bathory in 1988 by the only actual member Quorthon to make a driving statement for what Norse Mythology is, what the vikings actually were as a statement for his like mine Nordic heritage...but Bathory is one of the big 4 of black metal so at first it was just a side till the 2nd wave of black metal.
@purplesquirrl When the second wave came more Scand bands took what he did with his band bathory and so many bands like Tyr came into existence to make a statement against the Catholic Church so they went from hail satan to twisting in elements of melodic folk metal and out came the warrior child Viking metal so it was from 88-91 yes a side genre of black metal then in 92 all these bands came together and out came Viking metal as a subgenre of Metal not black metal anymore.
@purplesquirrl Same with grindcore, grindcore is just a fusion of thrash and death metal, viking metal is a fusion genre like grindcore of black metal and folk metal with Nordic themes...does that make sense? Its really hard to make this not sound as odd as it is but....apparently in metal that is how it works....
@valdyrgramr Damn man, you wrote me a novel back for a single comment! Hahaha. I see your point now though, and I have to agree with the points you made. I just misunderstood you a bit.
@purplesquirrl Also a lot of Scots and even Irish warriors were a type of Viking so in a sense its all Viking metal, just different lyrical themes and melodies lol, for example some of the early Irish vs Irish Wars were the Dublin Vikings vs the Royal Irish, the huge fighting Scots were also a type of Viking not to clear on the background though Viking metal is more based around the grasp of Nordic Vikings; whereas, Celtic is grasped around Celtic oriented Vikings.
@valdyrgramr Unleashe is death metal, I is black metal, DDD is mdm, Helheim is pagan metal etc etc etc Viking metal is not a genre it is a made up term used my idiots. Amon Amarth is called 'viking metal' but even a moron can tell they're mdm. Celtic metal is a sub genre of folk metal and defined typically by what instruments the bands use (harps, bagpipes etc)
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To make it metal speak: Celtic Metal= Lets dance and have a jolly ol' good time with beer. Viking Metal = ..Raid, break shit, fuck on the floor, raise your horns, head bang, destroy, battle cry, Norse mythology, wisdom, honor, I don't mind your view but if you force it upon me..I'll destroy you..now lets go drink some Norwegian Vodka[christiania,vikingfjord] and mead and mix together with some oj with the first of the two vodkas to taste sweet and tangy vodka that kinda taste like pussy juice!
Just saying what sounds more scary? The Celtic side which makes you think harmony in a folk sense with men in skirts vs barbaric men with a mindset on survival due to frost lands mode able to give off such a powerful battle cry.......its like comparing Link[the celts] to Ryu from Ninja Gaiden[the vikings] metalwise for brutality, the coming together, in your face attitude....which is represents metal....I have to give it to Viking Metal....but I still love both D:
But I have to give it to Viking metal as its dead on NORSE heathenism/paganism....where Celtic is more Wicca/peaceful based and magic....Viking is Norse and about the honor, warrior side...which is Norse....so if you are asking dead on accurate of Norse lore...Viking metal....also what sounds more like metal name wise alone? Celtic....or Viking? Viking has a more brutal ring to it lol Norse warriors are in a sense while pleasant are also suppose to seem scary to others with their power.
@valdyrgramr Wicca is NOT Celtic. It is a completely modern construct created by Gerald Gardner. And the Celts were anything but peaceful! The Gauls and Bretons once destroyed the entire Roman army in one charge and than took complete control of Rome for a decade or two until Julius Caesar came into power. The Celts had something called a "warrior society." Wicca is a lie.
@NorthernApparition Wicca is fucking weird, I never said Wicca was the same as all Celts, I mean you have druids, Scots, and the Dublin vikings so which Celts are we talking about brah? I know they had a warrior side lol, but what I meant is they don't sound like it when you say the name which in metal counts....I'm not mocking their history lol and I know it rather well what I'm saying is what people generally would think when they here the two...Viking and Celtic...
@NorthernApparition So...I mean come on in metal what comes to mind to people who don't know that? You'd have to admit people are gunna find Vikings more hardcore than the Celts lol...Celt sounds to fem like wicca Viking is auto fierce warrior, it has a darker ring to it....which counts in heavy metal sorta like saying twisted sister sounds like a pop punk band vs megadeth which sounds like a fucking awesome speed/thrash band from the 80s.
@valdyrgramr The Vikings were more fierce haha. But don't associate the Celts with this modern "wiccan" nonsense, is all I'm saying. The Celts were actually the ones that invented chain-mail and where the ones that actually used horned helmets in battle (despite the stereotype being that the vikings had horned helms).
@NorthernApparition Well most vikings were either using leather, shields, wood, basic metals of the iron age, some chain mail, some did have the horned helmets it just wasn't as overly as common, they had more of the ones that were like an M opening in the front to guard the nose and covered the top of the head but could be dented easily with a hammer if hit properly but the best defense was the shield as it doubled as a weapon. And I know, wiccas are pussies lol.
@NorthernApparition ok,and how do you figure that vikings were fiercer?Justa asking,as I know both were probably two of the fiercest warrriors in history.I personally think that they were equall, but like I said, just asking.
@KaelMacKenneth The Vikings and Celts are pretty even, you're right. It really depends on what time period you are looking at. For example, there are warnings in nordic maps that said not to sail to Scotland, because the Scots (including the Scotticized Picts) were so fierce and anti-viking. But earlier in Celtic history, the Gauls were forced out of there territory by the Germanic/Teutonic tribes moving south from Denmark.
@KaelMacKenneth The only reason I consider the Vikings slightly more fierce than the Celts is that the Vikings had slightly better weapons, at least during the Viking Age. But in short, the Celts and Vikings are in the same league :) proud to be descended from both! (And Not in a Racist/Nazi short of way! Haha)
@NorthernApparition Wicca is more or less a rip off of Celtic heritage though... Celting months, festivals and celebrations, and some Norse and others, too... Not the "same" but it's not "not Celtic".
@Palmer640 Having Celtic elements doesn't really make it Celtic though, but ya it is kind of a rip off in that sort of way. I just don't want people associating the two, because they are vastly different, despite Wicca having Celtic influences, those influences are dulled by the great many other influences, such as, like you said, Norse, as well as Greek, Roman, Dualism and the works of Aleister Crowley.
@NorthernApparition i would like to also add the wiccans and pagans are very very diffrent people. and the celts may have had a warrior society but this.. *civilisation* is hell. back then there was more to life than get up go to work come home chill. for alittle go to bed. repeat the next day. and untill you die.
@NorthernApparition That was all sorts of people but not the Gauls. The Gauls stuck to France and the Bretons stuck to the islands. The Celts are the ancient French and Spanish. The Ancient people of the islands are known as Gaels, some Gaels were known ad picts and others were known as woad.
You're right about everything else though. A common Scottish Gaelic practice was cutting off their slain enemy's heads and showing them off at feasts
@OlagHai Gaels are considered Celtic, Celtic is just a broad term, I think Julius Caesar, (correct me if I'm wrong), invented the term to describe a large group of tribes with similar language and culture, which includes the Gauls and Gaels (or Goidels), he did this to make the tribes seems more threatening, he also coined the term "German" for all of the Germanic tribes
@OlagHai Well, that's not entirely true. The Celts were a group that came from somewhere in Asia. People lived where Celts do now for long before they came.
They came in and conquered from the edge of Eastern Europe all the way to Ireland, but because they were largely tribal groups, not an empire, began to lose territory bit by bit, being left with Spain, France, and Britain, then the Franks took France as well.
@purplesquirrl Asia?! Im not all knowing in the facts of the celts but as far as i know they did not hail from Asia, Mostly Europe there were some in todays Turkey but not as far as Asia.
@OlagHai The Celts of Britain were the Brythons, Gaels, and Picts. Brythons controlled England before the Angles and Saxons came, now they're the Welsh and Cornish.
Picts controlled Scotland, but most modern day Scots are not Pictish at all, but Gaelic.
Gaels were the ancient Irish; Some groups left Ireland and began settling in Scotland, and eventually took the whole area over, and supplanted Pictish culture and society with their own.
Most modern Scots are a right old mixture of peoples. However, it would be wrong to say that they aren't in part Pictish. Pictish culture wasn't destroyed by the Gaels, it merely absorbed it. As their culture was bardic very little of it is left today. Interestingly, in Lewis, the last stronghold of the Scottish gaelic language, most of the people are of Scandinavian descent.
It's a mix of "anything with magic and gods" (Celtic, Scandinavian, Strega, Helenist, Hindu, Buddism...).
I was Wicca a year ago, but now I'm searching something more deeply, and not so... "Mixed", I love much both celtic and nordic cultures, I can't decide myself for one of them!
One slight difference, Celtic is more wicca based where Viking is more Norse based...the two have many similar ties yes....but Celtic ties Norse with Christian sheep ideals, druid ideals and many others making it the neutral ones, viking metal is based upon my ancestors and Norse from a wolf/eagle stand on it how it is meant to be....while Celtic isn't wrong or anything its just a bad telling of Norse, but not bad so therefore it cancels itself out of being bad so its good.
@founderofleadings What about the foundation of all present day Irish cities?
795 was the first documented viking attack in Ireland when the church of Lambey was burnt to the ground. Dublin did not exist at that time because like many other Irish towns and cities, it was formed and founded by vikings.
Viking influence was infact so great on Ireland that in the 9th-10th century a Norse kingdom York-Dublin was almost formed.
@TheClarenceter You're talking about one Celtic tribe, the Picts, now you're talking about the Irish and muddying up with Anglo-Celts.
The Gaulish Celts kept out all Germanic tribes from passing, and so did the Celts in Iberia (Modern day Portugal and Spain).
The reason the Visigoths and the Goths settled in Iberia was because the Roman Empire had destroyed the warrior culture there, then we Rome fell they had no one to defend.
All I can see is an Arabic Umayyad Caliphate in Spain during the occupation of the British Isles.
Picts? Where in the world do you get the Picts in here, now? I have never uttered a word about the PICTS. The Picts didn't even live in the same era as the Vikings, the Vendels did, but they did not invade the British Isles.
Nu, boy. I'm talking about the Irish. I have never uttered a word about Anglos.
I have NEVER debated about the fucking "Anglo-Celts" you absolute Spanish shit.
The Celts did not "originate" in Spain, what are you on? Are you mentally challenged? The Celts are one of the first Indo-Europeans to invade the continent of Europe, their culture was mainly formed in Hallstatt.
You are not Celtic, you are just a mouthy little prick. Typical obnoxious and repugnant SPANISH behaviour.
@founderofleadings The fucking idiot is the one who blindly meddles the Picts and the Anglos into a debate about the Irish and Viking occupation of the British Isles.
@founderofleadings Well, it certainly doesn't look like the Spanish people has alot of Celtic culture left. You can't even behave properly, you immediately go running your mouth against fact.
@founderofleadings Why did you even bother bringing up Galicia in Spain?
Remember when you blindly stated that the Germanics never had the upper hand over the Celtic. I provided you with information, but now as the typical, uneducated Spanish trash you are, you constantly go off topic about some fucking Galicia in Spain and Anglo-Celts or Picts whivh all have nothing to do with the argument.
Try ending your life, you silly Spaniard spastic.
@founderofleadings I guess you would be the one reading off Wikipedia because you bring about the same shit that's written in Jimbo's paradise.
Tartessian is solely a language, not a culture. How about reading the ABC of the Celtic and Germanic people?
WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO UNDERSTAND? I have NEVER, NEVER A BREATH IN THIS ARGUMENT, DEBATED ABOUT THE PICTS! DOES THE FUCKING SPASTICISED SPANIARD UNDERSTAND, PERHAPS?
Aryans are Indo-Europeans, not solely Scandinavian. Idiot.
@TheClarenceter The Irish and the Scottish are the DESCEDANTS OF THE PICTS, WHEN YOU SPEAK OF IRISH CELTS YOU BRING IN THE PICTS BECAUSE THEY ARE A CELTIC TRIBE.
Again, I bring in Galicia because it was one of the fronts AGAINST invasion into the Gauls.
Gauls were Celtic peoples, the Celts where not just one tribe.
They had hundreds of tribes spread throughout Europe.
Actually I'm making fun of people who think they are Aryans.
Too bad Aryan is an Iranian/Zorostrian/Hindu word.
@founderofleadings Irish and Scots are mostly Gaelic, not Pictish. Many modern Scots, including my family when you trace it back, are descendents of Irish groups that migrated to Scotland. The word Scot is even a Latin word for the Irish, not the Picts.
@founderofleadings Oh please You say you're debating about the celts and bring in the picts randomly when no one discussed them, then are annoyed when I talk about Gaels, which actually had something to do with what the other person was saying.
THE CELTS ARE NOT ONE TRIBE THEY ARE A TYPE OF PEOPLE. Like Germanic tribes?
Once again you shine.
I KNOW THAT YOU FUCKING IDIOT, I never said it wasn't how about learning to read.
"Sanskrit is the primary language of Zoroastrianism, Hinduism, Jainism, and Buddhism."
They use Sanskrit in their religions, Sanskrit is tied with Zoroastrianism and Hinduism, are you honestly have an argument with a Linguist about the origins of Sanskrit?
@founderofleadings I know the Picts were a Celtic tribe. They have little enough to do with modern day Scots, and less with the Irish. No one but you was discussing Picts, and you even did so incorrectly. Gaels are not Picts. they are both Godelic Celts, but are vastly different groups. Bringing up Germanic tribes is a great point. If I were to bring up Vandals in an argument about Norwegians, it would make no sense. The same goes for you bringing up Picts.
@founderofleadings This does not change the fact that it is NOT a word from a religion, but a language, although I do agree with you on the point that people who believe in some White Aryan race are idiots...Indians and Iranians are just as Aryan as any European.
"Actually I'm making fun of people who think they are Aryans.
Too bad Aryan is an Iranian/Zorostrian/Hindu word."
The language is Sanskrit. Just because a language is used in a religion does not mean the word is from the religion. Otherwise I could say Scot is a Roman Catholic word since Latin is used in the Catholic church. Not only would it make no sense, it would be idiotic. Language=/=religion.
@founderofleadings What are you even saying there? What do those religions have anything to do with what you're talking about?! Aryan IS a SANSKRIT word. Religions=/=languages.
I am not talking about anyone else than the Irish, Scottish or Cornish or even Welsh.
I don't give a shite about Spanish fucks pretending to be Celtic. Start reading and start arguing properly you absolute sperm-tart. You constantly bring up the fucking Spanish when this is nowhere close in topics on Spain.
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GabrielFallerGomes 13 hours ago
Can you give me the name of all the musics of this vídeo??? D:
TheWarRevolutionTime 13 hours ago
I must say that I like Viking metal but then I'm from sweden :)
Mustis1524 2 days ago
There is no thing to compare. All this band is awesome
pirzol89 3 days ago
so if a Scandanavian guy had a drinking match against an Irishman, who would win?
35gears 1 week ago 4
@35gears I know a few irishmen, they are some large mother fuckers.
Scandies can be skinny alot of the time.
So I think the irishman would win by burning it off fastest.
spacebear97 1 week ago
@35gears Well, physically most Scandinavians are pretty similar to most Irishmen. Likely because the Irish have so much Scandinavian blood in them just from getting raped by Viking raiders, and from the years the Danes ruled Ireland there was some intermixing between the two groups.
However, I think the Irish would win. They invented whiskey and have a longer history with distilled drinks, which lends more tolerance to them.
purplesquirrl 1 week ago 5
@purplesquirrl I think it would be better than the Scandinavian and Irish come together and drink and make a pagan festival in the name of Odin!
5Rock4ever 1 week ago
@purplesquirrl Pole living in Ireland
wpierdalator 5 days ago
who are the bands that play I could tell ya that sounds amazingly cool
gonzomar24 1 week ago
who are the bands playing that I could
gonzomar24 1 week ago
...I didnt know there was viking metal...Thank you odin!!!
whoopla1095 2 weeks ago
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AlucFahhT 1 week ago
@whoopla1095 dude subgeners of metal are over 40.. at least were last year.
EarthSh4ker 1 week ago
celtic metal??
DragonForceprimeiro 2 weeks ago
Thanks to this video I have a new appreciation for a type of metal I just recently learned about. Now I need to buy some of these albums!
TheFabulousAshleyLuv 2 weeks ago
SKILTRON!!!!!!!
9bartolomemitre9 3 weeks ago
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there both shit this music is for fucking phycos who worship the devil this is fucked up
NIKKI666ify 3 weeks ago
@NIKKI666ify Coming from a guy with a 666 in his name? If you're gonna troll, atleast try harder than that.
purplesquirrl 3 weeks ago 13
@NIKKI666ify i will give you 2/10 thats the best i can do
johnnyk7 2 weeks ago
I like the Vikings more but the Celtic bands are also amazing.
POWohnomypants 3 weeks ago
Can you give me a list of all the songs? They're all fucking epic
CrescentMoonRed 3 weeks ago in playlist Favorite videos
I listen to both rather then some faggot that I hear about (you know who I talk about)
Through011 3 weeks ago
Viking Rulez !!!!
Bruss96 3 weeks ago
People.... Anything pagan is awesome! Norse, celtic, finno-ugric, baltic, slavic, it's just a matter of preference. My favorite pagan band? I'd say Korpiklaani, Månegarm or Auringon Hauta.
JL3Wind 1 month ago 2
INIS MONA! ELUVEITIE RULZ!
Windwalker93 1 month ago
Eluveitie is folk with melodeath
Bear7o7 1 month ago 4
@Bear7o7 And Amon Amarth is melodeath with viking metal themed lyrics, Tyr is progressive metal, Suidakra is melodic black metal and sometimes melodic death metal with bagpipes, and Skiltron is power metal with lyrics about the Scottish clans and bagpipes. Fitting all this junk into the title is simply impossible, so I chose to call it Viking metal vs Celtic metal.
purplesquirrl 1 month ago 4
@purplesquirrl well said
LongboardSudbury 3 weeks ago
@Bear7o7 Also, Eluveitie sings in an old Celtic language much of the time, Uses many celtic folk instruments, sings about Celtic themes, and plays metal. Combine those and you end up with Celtic Metal. Good enough for me.
purplesquirrl 1 month ago 3
Primordial are an amazing Irish band!!!!!!
meatphysicz 1 month ago
@meatphysicz Primordial are awesome! I'm thinking of doing a follow up to this vid, if I do they're in it for sure, as well as Cruachan.
purplesquirrl 1 month ago
Celts!
Antireggaeton1 1 month ago
Both genres are awesome! END OF STORY!
narutofreak12312312 1 month ago 7
@purplesquirrl could you write names of used songs ?
Aj0nJon 1 month ago
@Aj0nJon All are on the scenes before they start playing.
purplesquirrl 1 month ago
@purplesquirrl well, not before the first one ;)
Aj0nJon 1 month ago
@Aj0nJon The intro song? Fine, ya got me there....Halo of Flies by the Accused.
purplesquirrl 1 month ago
@purplesquirrl thanks :)
Aj0nJon 1 month ago
SKYRIM BELONGS TO NORDS
Demimka 1 month ago
Amon Amarth is the shit. Favorite band ever :)
TJGrove320 1 month ago
5 vikings vs 5 irish, who would win in a fight to the death?!
zombofreakazoid 2 months ago
@zombofreakazoid Me, bottom line.....
Palmer640 1 month ago
@zombofreakazoid The Norse my friend.
TJGrove320 1 month ago
@zombofreakazoid my money for vikings
GregDarkness 1 week ago
vikings
pvp4l1fe 2 months ago
Nordic FTW
Danieldx22 2 months ago
Since there is no such genre known as 'viking metal,' Celts automatically win.
guitar0wnz 2 months ago
@guitar0wnz There is a genre called viking metal o.O there is no actual genre called celtic metal...Alt, Av, black, Christian, crust punk, death, doom, extreme, folk, funk, glam, gothic, grindcore, groove, industrial, core, neo-classical, nu, post, power, prog, rap, speed, stoner, symphonic, thrash, traditional, viking...are the forms of heavy metal Celtic metal is just a name for Folk metal with Celtic themes so its a side, side genre whereas Viking metal is a full sub-genre...
valdyrgramr 2 months ago
guitar0wnz 2 months ago
@guitar0wnz The fuck are you smoking? Those are opinions o.O or you are just a fucking troll.
valdyrgramr 2 months ago
@guitar0wnz So technically Celtic is a fan term, not an official term for a full genre of metal like viking metal which was created first anyways by a dude called Quorthon back in 1988 with Bathory's Blood Fire Death, the first full viking metal album though was Bathory's 1990 Hammerheart with the classic one rode to asa bay.
valdyrgramr 2 months ago
@valdyrgramr Celtic metal is a real thing, viking metal is not.
guitar0wnz 2 months ago
@guitar0wnz Okay troll, go listen to Bathory's Hammerheart and everything by Tyr, that is viking metal, a full subgenre of heavy metal, Celtic metal is not a subgenre, its just a side genre of folk metal these are facts, are you a catholic troll?
valdyrgramr 2 months ago
@valdyrgramr there is no such thing as a 'side genre' so idk what you're on about but there is a subgenre of folk called Celtic Folk and there's already a name for what you want to categorize as 'viking' it's called pagan.
guitar0wnz 2 months ago
@guitar0wnz But seriously, you mad bro?
valdyrgramr 2 months ago
@valdyrgramr why would I be mad?
guitar0wnz 2 months ago
@guitar0wnz Amon Amarth is not viking metal, retards call them that lol they are Melodic Death Metal with viking themed lyrics like how Nile is fucking Death Metal with Egyptian themes, Celtic metal is not real as a full subgenre, its just folk metal with celtic themes! Viking metal was created in 1988 by Bathory who is also black metal, thrash metal and prog metal you fucking retard, Korn and Slipknot are Nu metal fucktard, I never called Amon Amarth viking metal!
valdyrgramr 2 months ago
@valdyrgramr Celtic metal is defined by the instruments used and the song structure aswell as the overall theme. Nu metal is not metal lol silly poseur.
guitar0wnz 2 months ago
@guitar0wnz Viking metal uses a variety of instruments, they don't use just guitars low tuned, bass, drums and a vocalist, they include keyboards, violns, fluets, many other instruments as well have you even heard of bathory? or Are you fucking stupid? Grindcore is real, Crustpunk is real, Christina metal is real its also known as unblackene or unblack metal! With these Christian lyrical themes v.v but we can have pagan metal right? Learn more about metal you close minded fuck.
valdyrgramr 2 months ago
@valdyrgramr yes grindcore and crust punk exist but that doesn't make them any type of of metal. Learn the difference between the two before posting stupidity.
guitar0wnz 2 months ago
@guitar0wnz "A Fine Day to Die" and "Blood Fire Death" By Bathory were the first two viking metal songs, "One Rode To Asa Bay" is a song by Bathory about the Christianization of Scandinavia and appears on the 1990 album Hammerheart. The first FULL viking metal band, the thing is is viking metal and pagan metal are kinda the same thing, when they use Norse pagan elements in the song its pagan metal, when its about the viking age its viking metal, not every viking is pagan you retard.
valdyrgramr 2 months ago
@valdyrgramr Those are black metal songs with thrash and folk metal influences, not 'viking metal' and you seem to know pagan metal exists why do fail to see why that's a genre and 'viking' metal isn't?
guitar0wnz 2 months ago
@guitar0wnz I think I know more about this than you, I'm Norwegian this is my fucking heritage, I come from some of the most fierce Norwegian Nordic Vikings if you really believe everything Viking is Norse Pagan then you have no grasp of the History and are just pissy metalhead who is pulling shit out of their ass.
valdyrgramr 2 months ago
@valdyrgramr Being Norwegian doesn't make you know more about metal lol
guitar0wnz 2 months ago
@guitar0wnz I said about Norse and Vikings it sure as Hel does, I love how you aren't creating a foundation to support yourself that auto makes you full of shit and most likely a troll.
valdyrgramr 2 months ago
@guitar0wnz Quorthon Interview look it up, he created viking metal and he explains it right there you fucktard so I'm going to take his word far over yours :D thank you for failing jackass.
valdyrgramr 2 months ago
@valdyrgramr I've seen that interview and I don't hear one part where he mentions any type of 'viking metal'
guitar0wnz 2 months ago
@guitar0wnz The first part with Bathory...that is what he is talking about...he just summed it up what they were doing, he just doesn't like spilling his guts out about it, if you knew anything about bathory, you'd know he was talking about viking metal, its all he ever called that part of bathory, tyr calls it viking metal, want me to list 1418 more bands who call it that? To prove you wrong? I'm sure your word is far more accurate than theirs right?
valdyrgramr 2 months ago
@valdyrgramr He's talking about black metal idk where you're getting this idea that he's talking about anything related to vikings & lol @ MA prods
guitar0wnz 2 months ago
@guitar0wnz Now also explain to me what Korn is, What Slipknot is, what stryper is, what about Napalm Death the kings of grindcore? oh yeah, those aren't bands? rap metal is that shit Ice-T did with his one band body count btw...so yes there are documentaries on this, tv shows on this by bands, managers, and others whose job is to know this who say what I'm saying vs your word? A fans? Take in the scent of your failure D:
valdyrgramr 2 months ago
@valdyrgramr slapnuts and korn are nu 'metal' which is basically post grunge with hip-hop influences and rarely any metal influences. yes Napalm Death is grindcore, grindcore is basically hardcore punk, not even close to metal. There's rap rock but no rap metal because that would be nu 'metal' which is unmetal. There are documentaries that say Sodom is death metal which is the dumbest thing I've since people calling derpcore metal. Learn your genres you musically illiterate child.
guitar0wnz 2 months ago
@guitar0wnz No, he was talking about the part after they were black metal only, at first yes they were black metal, but they created something knew and they had to be careful and wise. And grindcore is metal, noizecore is not really metal that is more punk oriented if you at bands like anal cunt.
valdyrgramr 2 months ago
@valdyrgramr grindcore is not metal it is hardcore punk and give me the time in the interview where he starts saying anything about 'viking' metal because I can't find anything in that video even remotely related to what you're talking about
guitar0wnz 2 months ago
@guitar0wnz I'll message you two links since they won't let me send them on here.
valdyrgramr 2 months ago
@guitar0wnz Nu Metal I wouldn't say is traditional metal but is still oddly metal, Stryper is the foundation of Christian metal, Sodom is black early black like first wave around when Bathory started and thrash metal, but yeah Bathory started viking metal in the late 80s but at first it was just a side of black metal till the 2nd wave of black metal came and started fusing things and it was then that viking metal sprouted into a full subgenre.
valdyrgramr 2 months ago
@valdyrgramr Nu 'metal' is not metal and is unmetal; it lacks all the elements of metal aswell as the metal song structure not to mention the god awful screaming found in nu derp, another thing that is non metal and you've already proven you don't know what metal is so there's no need to keep up this lame act and 'christian metal' is not a genre and fyi nu derp is a fusion genre of post grunge and hip hop. I thought I should teach you something
guitar0wnz 2 months ago
@guitar0wnz Tyr, Windir, Turisas, Enslaved, Einherjer, Destroy Destroy Destroy, Kampfar, I, Unleashed, Moonsorrow, XIV Dark Centuries, Helheim, Godkiller, Falkenbach, Enslaved, Ensiferum, lumsk, are just a small amount of viking metal bands...Celtic metal is a subgenre of folk metal that developed in the 1990s in Ireland....so you see Viking metal auto wins as it is its own subgenre whereas Celtic is just a side genre of Folk metal lol.
valdyrgramr 2 months ago
@valdyrgramr That's the most disjointed and unconvincing argument I've ever read. Since celtic metal is a subgenre of folk metal it is inferior to viking metal which is a subgenre of black metal? Yeah, might need to work on that a bit.
purplesquirrl 2 months ago
@purplesquirrl No, viking metal is a full subgenre now, it was at first a side genre of both Folk and Black metal but it became so much more vast that is ended up as its own subgenre of metal so its no longer a side genre...for a genre to no longer to be a side it needs to things one, to be out for a certain amount of time I don't remember the total but Viking metal has been around since the 80s vs the 90s with Celtic, Celtic may at most have a few hundred bands...viking THOUSANDS
valdyrgramr 2 months ago
@purplesquirrl So its the amount of bands and the time length as well for its own existence...I'd give Celtic time length but they need a shit load more bands lol think of it this way, viking metal is like 30 year old adult creative adult; whereas, Celtic metal is a creative 15 year old....I'm not saying oh fuck Celtic metal lol I love both but Viking metal has been around longer and had more time to blossom which it did, its like Viking is Neil Peart and Celtic is Mike Portnoy.
valdyrgramr 2 months ago
@purplesquirrl Both are amazing for what they are and what they do right and in a sense the only difference is themes....I wasn't dissing one or the other, I was just saying that viking metal is a full subgenre, its real I'm not the one who set that I'm just stating that it is so if you want to argue you'd have to go yell at the Quorthon's grave....cuz he kinda started all this lol not me I'm just stating the facts opinion wise I do like viking metal better.
valdyrgramr 2 months ago
@purplesquirrl And I like it better metalwise because its more in your face, fierce, the theme is off a warrior religion so it should be called viking pagan metal when I think of it I think of Thor smashing frost giants....fierce warriors raiding, killing for honor and survival...wisdom....to me that is more metal that right there is my opinion, I do love Celtic metal but when you think of it its like a hot Celtic babe singing melodic vocals of Ireland...no offense lol...
valdyrgramr 2 months ago
@purplesquirrl Sorry for the confusion lol but Viking metal has been declared by industries and fans together as full subgenre that has elements of black and folk metal but you can't really if you were to fully look at viking metal as a whole as a side genre, I think and this is my opinion that if Celtic had more time, got a few more bands than I would fight and many others for it as well to be its own full subgenre like we did for viking metal.
valdyrgramr 2 months ago
@purplesquirrl But, what my point was, was as I said it was not saying one is better than the other, I was just stating its existence and what it is...and I was stating those bands as a few for them to check out not oh fuck you here is some this is my opinion lol and here are a few popular bands you might like, personally my fave is Tyr. Also I think Celtic metal isn't actually a full sub vs side is because its background doesn't have as strong of a backing foundation like viking
valdyrgramr 2 months ago
@purplesquirrl And, I only say that because I think Celtic metal is just when a Folk metal band adds lyrical themes that are...Celtic; whereas, viking metal was started by Bathory in 1988 by the only actual member Quorthon to make a driving statement for what Norse Mythology is, what the vikings actually were as a statement for his like mine Nordic heritage...but Bathory is one of the big 4 of black metal so at first it was just a side till the 2nd wave of black metal.
valdyrgramr 2 months ago
@purplesquirrl When the second wave came more Scand bands took what he did with his band bathory and so many bands like Tyr came into existence to make a statement against the Catholic Church so they went from hail satan to twisting in elements of melodic folk metal and out came the warrior child Viking metal so it was from 88-91 yes a side genre of black metal then in 92 all these bands came together and out came Viking metal as a subgenre of Metal not black metal anymore.
valdyrgramr 2 months ago
@purplesquirrl Same with grindcore, grindcore is just a fusion of thrash and death metal, viking metal is a fusion genre like grindcore of black metal and folk metal with Nordic themes...does that make sense? Its really hard to make this not sound as odd as it is but....apparently in metal that is how it works....
valdyrgramr 2 months ago
@valdyrgramr Damn man, you wrote me a novel back for a single comment! Hahaha. I see your point now though, and I have to agree with the points you made. I just misunderstood you a bit.
purplesquirrl 2 months ago
@purplesquirrl Aspergers does that lol
valdyrgramr 2 months ago
@purplesquirrl Also a lot of Scots and even Irish warriors were a type of Viking so in a sense its all Viking metal, just different lyrical themes and melodies lol, for example some of the early Irish vs Irish Wars were the Dublin Vikings vs the Royal Irish, the huge fighting Scots were also a type of Viking not to clear on the background though Viking metal is more based around the grasp of Nordic Vikings; whereas, Celtic is grasped around Celtic oriented Vikings.
valdyrgramr 2 months ago
@valdyrgramr Unleashe is death metal, I is black metal, DDD is mdm, Helheim is pagan metal etc etc etc Viking metal is not a genre it is a made up term used my idiots. Amon Amarth is called 'viking metal' but even a moron can tell they're mdm. Celtic metal is a sub genre of folk metal and defined typically by what instruments the bands use (harps, bagpipes etc)
guitar0wnz 2 months ago
@guitar0wnz Unleashed*
guitar0wnz 2 months ago
Vikings!
Dietseleeuw 2 months ago 17
@TheClarenceter This is coming from an Irish wanna be Viking, your trolling= 0/10.
founderofleadings 2 months ago
Could you perchance put the band names and song titles in the description? I would give you 1 hundo dollars.
robertk126 2 months ago
Mead, Christiania Vodka, and OJ = Nectar of Freyja if you wanna taste booze that kinda tastes like the best of pussy juice try it o.o it is highly amazing or be like me down on at a time :D I normally down the Vodka first...also Christiania is highly clean and smooth going down so try it.
valdyrgramr 2 months ago
To make it metal speak: Celtic Metal= Lets dance and have a jolly ol' good time with beer. Viking Metal = ..Raid, break shit, fuck on the floor, raise your horns, head bang, destroy, battle cry, Norse mythology, wisdom, honor, I don't mind your view but if you force it upon me..I'll destroy you..now lets go drink some Norwegian Vodka[christiania,vikingfjord] and mead and mix together with some oj with the first of the two vodkas to taste sweet and tangy vodka that kinda taste like pussy juice!
valdyrgramr 2 months ago
@valdyrgramr
Yep the Norse are defiantly are more brutal.
zonilo1 2 months ago
Just saying what sounds more scary? The Celtic side which makes you think harmony in a folk sense with men in skirts vs barbaric men with a mindset on survival due to frost lands mode able to give off such a powerful battle cry.......its like comparing Link[the celts] to Ryu from Ninja Gaiden[the vikings] metalwise for brutality, the coming together, in your face attitude....which is represents metal....I have to give it to Viking Metal....but I still love both D:
valdyrgramr 2 months ago
But I have to give it to Viking metal as its dead on NORSE heathenism/paganism....where Celtic is more Wicca/peaceful based and magic....Viking is Norse and about the honor, warrior side...which is Norse....so if you are asking dead on accurate of Norse lore...Viking metal....also what sounds more like metal name wise alone? Celtic....or Viking? Viking has a more brutal ring to it lol Norse warriors are in a sense while pleasant are also suppose to seem scary to others with their power.
valdyrgramr 2 months ago
@valdyrgramr Wicca is NOT Celtic. It is a completely modern construct created by Gerald Gardner. And the Celts were anything but peaceful! The Gauls and Bretons once destroyed the entire Roman army in one charge and than took complete control of Rome for a decade or two until Julius Caesar came into power. The Celts had something called a "warrior society." Wicca is a lie.
NorthernApparition 2 months ago 25
@NorthernApparition Wicca is fucking weird, I never said Wicca was the same as all Celts, I mean you have druids, Scots, and the Dublin vikings so which Celts are we talking about brah? I know they had a warrior side lol, but what I meant is they don't sound like it when you say the name which in metal counts....I'm not mocking their history lol and I know it rather well what I'm saying is what people generally would think when they here the two...Viking and Celtic...
valdyrgramr 2 months ago
@NorthernApparition So...I mean come on in metal what comes to mind to people who don't know that? You'd have to admit people are gunna find Vikings more hardcore than the Celts lol...Celt sounds to fem like wicca Viking is auto fierce warrior, it has a darker ring to it....which counts in heavy metal sorta like saying twisted sister sounds like a pop punk band vs megadeth which sounds like a fucking awesome speed/thrash band from the 80s.
valdyrgramr 2 months ago
@valdyrgramr The Vikings were more fierce haha. But don't associate the Celts with this modern "wiccan" nonsense, is all I'm saying. The Celts were actually the ones that invented chain-mail and where the ones that actually used horned helmets in battle (despite the stereotype being that the vikings had horned helms).
NorthernApparition 2 months ago
@NorthernApparition Well most vikings were either using leather, shields, wood, basic metals of the iron age, some chain mail, some did have the horned helmets it just wasn't as overly as common, they had more of the ones that were like an M opening in the front to guard the nose and covered the top of the head but could be dented easily with a hammer if hit properly but the best defense was the shield as it doubled as a weapon. And I know, wiccas are pussies lol.
valdyrgramr 2 months ago
@NorthernApparition ok,and how do you figure that vikings were fiercer?Justa asking,as I know both were probably two of the fiercest warrriors in history.I personally think that they were equall, but like I said, just asking.
KaelMacKenneth 2 months ago
@KaelMacKenneth The Vikings and Celts are pretty even, you're right. It really depends on what time period you are looking at. For example, there are warnings in nordic maps that said not to sail to Scotland, because the Scots (including the Scotticized Picts) were so fierce and anti-viking. But earlier in Celtic history, the Gauls were forced out of there territory by the Germanic/Teutonic tribes moving south from Denmark.
NorthernApparition 2 months ago
@KaelMacKenneth The only reason I consider the Vikings slightly more fierce than the Celts is that the Vikings had slightly better weapons, at least during the Viking Age. But in short, the Celts and Vikings are in the same league :) proud to be descended from both! (And Not in a Racist/Nazi short of way! Haha)
NorthernApparition 2 months ago 2
@NorthernApparition Wicca is more or less a rip off of Celtic heritage though... Celting months, festivals and celebrations, and some Norse and others, too... Not the "same" but it's not "not Celtic".
Palmer640 1 month ago
@Palmer640 Having Celtic elements doesn't really make it Celtic though, but ya it is kind of a rip off in that sort of way. I just don't want people associating the two, because they are vastly different, despite Wicca having Celtic influences, those influences are dulled by the great many other influences, such as, like you said, Norse, as well as Greek, Roman, Dualism and the works of Aleister Crowley.
NorthernApparition 1 month ago
@NorthernApparition i would like to also add the wiccans and pagans are very very diffrent people. and the celts may have had a warrior society but this.. *civilisation* is hell. back then there was more to life than get up go to work come home chill. for alittle go to bed. repeat the next day. and untill you die.
demokin4946 1 month ago
@NorthernApparition That was all sorts of people but not the Gauls. The Gauls stuck to France and the Bretons stuck to the islands. The Celts are the ancient French and Spanish. The Ancient people of the islands are known as Gaels, some Gaels were known ad picts and others were known as woad.
You're right about everything else though. A common Scottish Gaelic practice was cutting off their slain enemy's heads and showing them off at feasts
OlagHai 1 month ago
@OlagHai Gaels are considered Celtic, Celtic is just a broad term, I think Julius Caesar, (correct me if I'm wrong), invented the term to describe a large group of tribes with similar language and culture, which includes the Gauls and Gaels (or Goidels), he did this to make the tribes seems more threatening, he also coined the term "German" for all of the Germanic tribes
NorthernApparition 1 month ago
@OlagHai Well, that's not entirely true. The Celts were a group that came from somewhere in Asia. People lived where Celts do now for long before they came.
They came in and conquered from the edge of Eastern Europe all the way to Ireland, but because they were largely tribal groups, not an empire, began to lose territory bit by bit, being left with Spain, France, and Britain, then the Franks took France as well.
purplesquirrl 3 weeks ago
@purplesquirrl Asia?! Im not all knowing in the facts of the celts but as far as i know they did not hail from Asia, Mostly Europe there were some in todays Turkey but not as far as Asia.
Zergavas 2 weeks ago
@Zergavas Yes, Asia (Turkey is in Asia as well, you know), they migrated to Europe, and brought the knowledge of ironworking with them to Europe.
purplesquirrl 2 weeks ago
@OlagHai The Celts of Britain were the Brythons, Gaels, and Picts. Brythons controlled England before the Angles and Saxons came, now they're the Welsh and Cornish.
Picts controlled Scotland, but most modern day Scots are not Pictish at all, but Gaelic.
Gaels were the ancient Irish; Some groups left Ireland and began settling in Scotland, and eventually took the whole area over, and supplanted Pictish culture and society with their own.
purplesquirrl 3 weeks ago
Most modern Scots are a right old mixture of peoples. However, it would be wrong to say that they aren't in part Pictish. Pictish culture wasn't destroyed by the Gaels, it merely absorbed it. As their culture was bardic very little of it is left today. Interestingly, in Lewis, the last stronghold of the Scottish gaelic language, most of the people are of Scandinavian descent.
Vostoksounds 3 weeks ago
True! Wicca were anything but Celtic!!
It's a mix of "anything with magic and gods" (Celtic, Scandinavian, Strega, Helenist, Hindu, Buddism...).
I was Wicca a year ago, but now I'm searching something more deeply, and not so... "Mixed", I love much both celtic and nordic cultures, I can't decide myself for one of them!
Cephirus100 1 week ago
One slight difference, Celtic is more wicca based where Viking is more Norse based...the two have many similar ties yes....but Celtic ties Norse with Christian sheep ideals, druid ideals and many others making it the neutral ones, viking metal is based upon my ancestors and Norse from a wolf/eagle stand on it how it is meant to be....while Celtic isn't wrong or anything its just a bad telling of Norse, but not bad so therefore it cancels itself out of being bad so its good.
valdyrgramr 2 months ago
the vikings are our Celtic cousins unite fucktards ha ha ha ha ha ha freeeeeeeeedom
MyHenry22 2 months ago
SKILTRON HAIL
TheJanitschar14 2 months ago
Celtic metal 4 ever!
AFiVicious 2 months ago
@AFiVicious fucking yeagh Ceeeeeeeeeelts 4 eva
MyHenry22 2 months ago
Viking metal all the way!
joonte1010 3 months ago
why vs. ? i like both :) it sounds damn great :)
6kNamyst 3 months ago
CELTIC PRIDE.
SCOTTLAND.
GALICIA. (Spain)
IRELAND.
ISLE OF MAN.
WALES.
CORNWALL.
BRITTANY.
STAND UP!
founderofleadings 3 months ago
@founderofleadings Celtic pride? Lol, Got ya ass kicked by us Germanics.
NordenHonor 3 months ago
@NordenHonor LOL that's hilarious.
The Goths and Visigoths were afraid of attacking Rome until the Celts sacked Rome after the Battle Of The Allia in 327 B.C.
Tell me one battle in which a Germanic peoples won against the Celts, oh right you know nothing about history.
founderofleadings 3 months ago
@founderofleadings What about the foundation of all present day Irish cities?
795 was the first documented viking attack in Ireland when the church of Lambey was burnt to the ground. Dublin did not exist at that time because like many other Irish towns and cities, it was formed and founded by vikings.
Viking influence was infact so great on Ireland that in the 9th-10th century a Norse kingdom York-Dublin was almost formed.
TheClarenceter 3 months ago
@founderofleadings Heard about Waterford, Wexford, Limerick and Cork? They are all along with Dublin originally VIKING trading hubs.
Máel Sechnaill mac Domnaill was murdered by the Norse in his failed attempt at trying to unite the Irish clans.
TheClarenceter 3 months ago
@TheClarenceter You're talking about one Celtic tribe, the Picts, now you're talking about the Irish and muddying up with Anglo-Celts.
The Gaulish Celts kept out all Germanic tribes from passing, and so did the Celts in Iberia (Modern day Portugal and Spain).
The reason the Visigoths and the Goths settled in Iberia was because the Roman Empire had destroyed the warrior culture there, then we Rome fell they had no one to defend.
founderofleadings 3 months ago
@founderofleadings Don't call Spain or modern day France Celtic, ever.
All I can see is an Arabic Umayyad Caliphate in Spain during the occupation of the British Isles.
Picts? Where in the world do you get the Picts in here, now? I have never uttered a word about the PICTS. The Picts didn't even live in the same era as the Vikings, the Vendels did, but they did not invade the British Isles.
Nu, boy. I'm talking about the Irish. I have never uttered a word about Anglos.
TheClarenceter 3 months ago
@TheClarenceter That's the DUMBEST thing I've EVER heard.
THE OLDEST CELTIC LANGUAGE CALLED TARTESSIAN WAS FOUND IN SOUTHERN SPAIN.
Galicia is considered one of the seven Celtic nations.
If you're seriously going to tell me Vercingetorix wasn't a Celt please don't respond back because you're a fucking idiot.
founderofleadings 3 months ago
@founderofleadings When did I deny this?
I was simply stating that the Arabic Umayyad Caliphate continues to influence the look and even culture of the Spanish and Portuguese people.
TheClarenceter 3 months ago
@TheClarenceter Again you're wrong,
Do you know what an Anglo-Celt is? Or have you been just pushing this as shit and not even checking ignorantly?
I'm not even arguing about the Irish, I'm talking about THE CELTS, there are TONS of Celtic tribes.
In fact all evidence leads to the Celts originating in Southern Spain.
"Don't call Spain or modern day France Celtic, ever."
I grew up in Galicia and the national instrument is the bagpipe, the national clothing is the Galego Tartan.
founderofleadings 3 months ago
@founderofleadings MY GOD, CAN YOU READ?
I have NEVER debated about the fucking "Anglo-Celts" you absolute Spanish shit.
The Celts did not "originate" in Spain, what are you on? Are you mentally challenged? The Celts are one of the first Indo-Europeans to invade the continent of Europe, their culture was mainly formed in Hallstatt.
You are not Celtic, you are just a mouthy little prick. Typical obnoxious and repugnant SPANISH behaviour.
TheClarenceter 3 months ago
@founderofleadings You are so very lost, my "Celtic" friend.
Did you know that I am Irish? You REALLY need to improve your linguistics and overall intellect on the Celtic diaspora, culture and ancient culture.
TheClarenceter 3 months ago
@founderofleadings The fucking idiot is the one who blindly meddles the Picts and the Anglos into a debate about the Irish and Viking occupation of the British Isles.
TheClarenceter 3 months ago
@founderofleadings Well, it certainly doesn't look like the Spanish people has alot of Celtic culture left. You can't even behave properly, you immediately go running your mouth against fact.
Go get some culture you twat.
TheClarenceter 3 months ago
@TheClarenceter Oh and in the 1970's there was a revival of Galician druidism and an attempt to restore the Gallaeci language.
TRY AGAIN.
founderofleadings 3 months ago
@founderofleadings Why did you even bother bringing up Galicia in Spain?
Remember when you blindly stated that the Germanics never had the upper hand over the Celtic. I provided you with information, but now as the typical, uneducated Spanish trash you are, you constantly go off topic about some fucking Galicia in Spain and Anglo-Celts or Picts whivh all have nothing to do with the argument.
Try ending your life, you silly Spaniard spastic.
TheClarenceter 3 months ago
@TheClarenceter Again, I guess you should read a bit more.
Tartessian is the OLDEST Celtic CULTURE AND LANGUAGE.
Okay? Now if you're reading off wikipedia you wouldn't know this.
How about reading the works of John T Koch the head of Celtic studies.
Back to Scandinavia "Aryan".
Both the Scottish and the Irish DESCEND from the Picts who before they were Picts they were separate tribes spread out.
founderofleadings 3 months ago
@founderofleadings I guess you would be the one reading off Wikipedia because you bring about the same shit that's written in Jimbo's paradise.
Tartessian is solely a language, not a culture. How about reading the ABC of the Celtic and Germanic people?
WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO UNDERSTAND? I have NEVER, NEVER A BREATH IN THIS ARGUMENT, DEBATED ABOUT THE PICTS! DOES THE FUCKING SPASTICISED SPANIARD UNDERSTAND, PERHAPS?
Aryans are Indo-Europeans, not solely Scandinavian. Idiot.
TheClarenceter 3 months ago
@TheClarenceter The Irish and the Scottish are the DESCEDANTS OF THE PICTS, WHEN YOU SPEAK OF IRISH CELTS YOU BRING IN THE PICTS BECAUSE THEY ARE A CELTIC TRIBE.
Again, I bring in Galicia because it was one of the fronts AGAINST invasion into the Gauls.
Gauls were Celtic peoples, the Celts where not just one tribe.
They had hundreds of tribes spread throughout Europe.
Actually I'm making fun of people who think they are Aryans.
Too bad Aryan is an Iranian/Zorostrian/Hindu word.
founderofleadings 3 months ago
@founderofleadings Irish and Scots are mostly Gaelic, not Pictish. Many modern Scots, including my family when you trace it back, are descendents of Irish groups that migrated to Scotland. The word Scot is even a Latin word for the Irish, not the Picts.
purplesquirrl 3 months ago
@founderofleadings Let me repeat once again, I. AM. NOT. DEBATING. ABOUT. THE. FUCKING. PICTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And no. Aryan is from Sanskrit.
TheClarenceter 3 months ago
@TheClarenceter Too stupid.
We're DEBATING ABOUT THE CELTS, THE PICTS COUNT AS CELTS.
I'm not here to debate about the Irish or the Scots.
We were debating about the CELTS, and then you jumped forward in time to the Irish who are mixed.
Again, the Picts and the Gaels intermixed, they were neighbors.
founderofleadings 3 months ago
@founderofleadings Oh please You say you're debating about the celts and bring in the picts randomly when no one discussed them, then are annoyed when I talk about Gaels, which actually had something to do with what the other person was saying.
purplesquirrl 3 months ago
@purplesquirrl THE PICTS ARE A CELTIC TRIBE.
THE CELTS ARE NOT ONE TRIBE THEY ARE A TYPE OF PEOPLE. Like Germanic tribes?
Once again you shine.
I KNOW THAT YOU FUCKING IDIOT, I never said it wasn't how about learning to read.
"Sanskrit is the primary language of Zoroastrianism, Hinduism, Jainism, and Buddhism."
They use Sanskrit in their religions, Sanskrit is tied with Zoroastrianism and Hinduism, are you honestly have an argument with a Linguist about the origins of Sanskrit?
founderofleadings 3 months ago
@founderofleadings I know the Picts were a Celtic tribe. They have little enough to do with modern day Scots, and less with the Irish. No one but you was discussing Picts, and you even did so incorrectly. Gaels are not Picts. they are both Godelic Celts, but are vastly different groups. Bringing up Germanic tribes is a great point. If I were to bring up Vandals in an argument about Norwegians, it would make no sense. The same goes for you bringing up Picts.
purplesquirrl 3 months ago
@purplesquirrl Are we not doing an argument about the Celts as a people?
Actually the word is from the religion, it means noble.
To Hindu's, Zoroastrians, and Iranians a noble is someone of their faith.
The word Aryan ties with the religions and so does the language.
founderofleadings 3 months ago
@founderofleadings This does not change the fact that it is NOT a word from a religion, but a language, although I do agree with you on the point that people who believe in some White Aryan race are idiots...Indians and Iranians are just as Aryan as any European.
purplesquirrl 3 months ago
@founderofleadings And back to the whole "Aryan" thing.
Quoted from you:
"Actually I'm making fun of people who think they are Aryans.
Too bad Aryan is an Iranian/Zorostrian/Hindu word."
The language is Sanskrit. Just because a language is used in a religion does not mean the word is from the religion. Otherwise I could say Scot is a Roman Catholic word since Latin is used in the Catholic church. Not only would it make no sense, it would be idiotic. Language=/=religion.
purplesquirrl 3 months ago
@founderofleadings And I couldn't give a rats arse about Galicia, so stop moaning about fucking Galicia in Spain.
TheClarenceter 3 months ago
@TheClarenceter Sanskrit is the primary language of Zoroastrianism, Hinduism, Jainism, and Buddhism.
Again you're showing your failure.
founderofleadings 3 months ago
@founderofleadings What are you even saying there? What do those religions have anything to do with what you're talking about?! Aryan IS a SANSKRIT word. Religions=/=languages.
purplesquirrl 3 months ago
@founderofleadings Me showing some failure?
You fail at arguing about the same topic, so don't come off here ragging on ME.
Did you ever wonder where all of your words come from?
In ANY Indo-European language, where do all words come from?
The answer in Sanskrit. Heard about the Vedic Empire? In Slavic and Germanic it translates to knowing.
TheClarenceter 2 months ago
@TheClarenceter We can't even argue the topic.
Why? Because the Celts are diverse.
Just like I can't argue about ALL Germanic tribes because they are all different but related culturally and linguistically.
You should know this already.
I actually don't use Wikipedia, I stick to Celtic Restoration websites and the works of John T Koch (the head of Celtic studies).
We have Celts in Spain, Ireland, Britain, Scottland, Galatia, Manx, Cornwall but key things in our culture unite us.
founderofleadings 2 months ago
@founderofleadings Celts 4eva freedom to you bruther
MyHenry22 2 months ago
@founderofleadings Did you still get it?
I am not talking about anyone else than the Irish, Scottish or Cornish or even Welsh.
I don't give a shite about Spanish fucks pretending to be Celtic. Start reading and start arguing properly you absolute sperm-tart. You constantly bring up the fucking Spanish when this is nowhere close in topics on Spain.
TheClarenceter 2 months ago
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founderofleadings 2 months ago
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@TheClarenceter Too stupid to realize that only the GALICIANS are Celtic.
The rest of Spain is NOT Celtic, here in Galicia our national instrument are the bagpipes, or national clothing is the Galician Tartan.
You're a fucking idiot and need to start reading up on the works of John T Koch the head of Celtic studies.
founderofleadings 2 months ago