Jamie21 - Corvid -- Donaukinder cover: Pre-production

[chicoman007]

Awesome!!! And you are using the enosinq ar 10 :D

[AdmiralCNorton]

I just realized Flake's using a lot of Native Instruments lately. Heard the DXsomething patch on a Massive demo version (which doesn't really work on my Windows XP) - that was the Haifisch intro thing. Then there was something from Absynth, too. And also a lot of Symphony of Voices by Spectrasonics - 5/4, Hallelujah, Sonne... but the funniest discovery so far was the DelayLama.

[Stefan0xXx]

please corvid tell me about the choir sound.. the number of the CD, the partition.. and the name of the choir.. tnx..

[mustang77340]

Hi, i know that you find the same patch as Flake for Fruhling in Paris, is it possible to share it ? Or to tell us which instrument he uses ?

Regards

[Jayguitardude]

Do you know about the ASR10 "Presets" Where you assign midi settings* I have an 8 track project in protools and when I load my bank in the ASR10 it never loads the midi settings *Presets* I saved a preset and saved a bank but the presets never load! In order to load the presets I have to do thi:1. Press Load and hold it down, press instrument button (Display "Select a preset number" 2. Press instrument track number one then keypad #1 move slider to 01 then press button one in the keypad

[AdmiralCNorton]

I'd give one of my hearts for an ASR 10... and that's an amazing choir sample!

[Corvid]

@AdmiralCNorton Oh yeah, it's stunning what can be done with 16mb and a some of the best sound designers in the world! Screw all these 29gb sample libraries.

Actually, ASR-10s aren't hard to get hold of at all. It truly takes your heart and soul to learn how to use it well though, it's a DEEP bit of kit, I truly see why Flake has been using one from day one of Rammstein. SO many original samples can be found on ASR CDs too, must put some up some time.

[AdmiralCNorton]

@Corvid I've tried to create Rammstein-like sounds with a Roland Juno Di for some time now with - let's call it - moderate success (it's not possible to add new samples, just to modify the ~800 presets)... and I've looked for the ASR-10, but couldn't find it (it's quite hard to come by in Austria, if you find it it'll probably be over 100 Dollars or something). Do you know of any similar, affordable, keyboards?

[AdmiralCNorton]

@AdmiralCNorton I meant over 1000. 100... that would be too easy...

[Corvid]

@AdmiralCNorton Nah, don't go near the US... two reasons. One, all the hip-hop guys over there have a thing about the ASR-10's "sound" (highly debatable, but hey, it's a good sampler none the less) which pushes the price up. I mean waaaay up, I see crappy condition ones going with SCSI for $750, regularly. Two, you've got X hundred dollars shipping to Europe, bad times. Have a look for ones on eBay in Europe or the UK, I'd be very surprised to see a decent one go for more than 600USD.

[Corvid]

@AdmiralCNorton Unfortunately, the ASR-10 is pretty irreplaceable for playing Rammstein. There is nothing like it, even close. You could buy one of the synths Flake used or a decent synth (like an Access Virus), but then you'll entirely miss all the cheesey sampled 80's synths, strings, air choirs, and sampled choirs. Plus samples. ASR-10s aren't that much, just look on eBay. They go for about £300 with the needed SCSI interface.

[AdmiralCNorton]

@Corvid Thanks for the tips! I'm gonna take a look at eBay now...

[Corvid]

@AdmiralCNorton No worries man! Just make sure it has the SCSI interface! It comes with zero presets or sounds. When you first get it, unless it come with some floppy disks, you won't be able to play a thing when you turn it on. Everything must be loaded in via floppy or a SCSI CD/hard drive. I can sure help you out with some Rammstein samples/CDs if you need them, but you'll need a CD drive. Have a look for a SCSI Apple CD300, they go VERY cheap and work fine.

[AdmiralCNorton]

@Corvid Just one last, stupid question - which file format does the ASR-10 use? SF2 or anything like that?

[Corvid]

@AdmiralCNorton Nah, proprietary file format. You'll find it hard to get samples digitally from computer to the ASR, not worth bothering. That's why the CD drive is so important, there's absolutely TONS of discs available in Ensoniq format. Plus it can read most popular formats of Roland and AKAI discs. But of course, this is a fantastic sampler, you can just sample in any synth or patch you like. Might take some clever thinking to get it sounding identical, but it's very powerful and deep.

[stefan0z]

Corvid do you know the omnishpere choirs? are good ?

[Corvid]

@stefan0z @stefan0z I'd imagine they're not too bad, never heard them myself. Omnisphere is sample based, so they probably sound unique if Omnisphere is messing with them. On the other hand, if you mean Symphony of Voices, the sample pack by Spectrasonics (who also make the Omnisphere synth), yeah, they're used in this video and they're bloody amazing.

[stefan0z]

@Corvid Corvid you think that the arpeggiator you hear in the last part of ENGEL song is a sound preset of ASR-10? you can hear this kind of sound also in the intro of Heirate mich and in some other song of Herzeleid and Sehnsucht. However, how can I create it?

[Corvid]

@stefan0z Very complex... the ASR-10 has no "presets", only instruments/samples that can be bought on CD. There are tons of instruments/samples Flake used, but he also uses hardware synths a fair bit. Heirate Mich, Herzeleid and Sehnsucht are almost certainly ASR-10 based just from the sound of them, Engel could possibly be ASR-10, or a synth preset from something like a Nord Lead, Access Virus, Roland synth, or the odd weird Yamaha synth.

[stefan0z]

Corvid do you know che omnishpere choirs? are good ?

[Reiser1995a]

awesome! good work!