@HeliosExeunt Haha. I assume that you're living in one of the SDA-contested wards just as I am. And yeah, I agree. They suck big time. I'm not a PAP supporter but looking at the SDA makes me wanna vote for PAP.
I'm sorry but having zero gst for the low income isn't going to help anything because they are already spending so little. Even though the PAP is not perfect, for the time being it is hard to convince me that any of the other parties can do better.
That said, hopefully the increasing number of unhappy voices will be enough to wake our political leaders from their comfortable couches dreaming about a bright future for Singapore and start looking harder at the problems at hand.
@blackrabbit2999 I dont think you realize what they're saying. What they are proposing is NOT a zero gst. It's a progressive gst, think paying no GST for food and paying something like 10% for your iPhone4.
And you're wrong saying that it wouldnt help anything because they're " spending so little ", I'm afraid your sense of "little" is probably a little skewed there. That pittance is, to them, a large sum of money and so it would help, perhaps not by pure numbers but certainly by proportion
SPP representative is like an Beautician Manager ..
SDA representatiive is a total shame cos he cant speak that well. Maybe his idea is impressive but as a Asisstant General Secretary.. its a total shame.
SDP representative very impressive, eloquent and very clear view.
WP representative on/off form to explain his views for WP.. but still the 2nd best.
I'm terribly sorry M'am, but the phrase "Power corrupts; Absolute power corrupts absolutely" was NOT coined by your husband, it was coined by Lord Acton,a noted British historian and moralist, in 1887.
I simply can't agree with what Josephine said about the affordability of healthcare services. Yes, she have never met a single person in her 5 years of service who cannot afford quality healthcare service. Anyone whom is facing against a health problem, would they ignore all possible forms of treatment because they could not afford? In the front, they are getting their treatments, but at the back, you see a whole load of debts to be cleared for the rest of their life. Is this called affordable?
Lol... Tharman trying to smoke ppl, Regressive taxation no matter how much you give back in transfer payments will make one much more worse off. MRS(Final) > MRS(initial) . Less choices = worse off. Cummon we're not idiots
SDP and workers Party ihave shown that they did their homework.. However, it is just painful to watch the other two opposition parties. If we are to pin our hopes on these alternative parties, our society will head for decline.
Just wondering why the Mandarin political forum wasn't given as much publicity (trailers)? Could it be because the opposition representatives performed pretty well during that forum? They indeed raised practical and relevant issues that the PAP govt needs to address. The opposition representatives put forth their views and concerns lucidly and convincingly. Do watch the Mandarin political forum as well. The moderator for that forum did a better job. No one was unduly rushed or interrupted.
Absolute power corrupts absolutely. Her husband said that? Didn't even bother to credit the real person who says it? I'm pretty sure a historian named Lord Acton said that.
PAP is still the best. Very eloquent speakers and clear train of thoughts.
Singapore is a very good society and the government has played the most important role in that. I travel often to other countries and stay extended terms in some countries. You will realise how fortunate we are.
SDP should also realise that we can't formulate policies based on the poorest man on the street. I think our current policies are pretty good.
BTW, I am not PAP lackey. Just a proud Singaporean.
Cheers to WP and SDP came prepared sadly Mrs Chaim pls get a able candidate to run Potong Pasir they deserve a better alternate voice in parliament and as usual Tharman was fair in his answers accepting facts but no solutions to the rising cost on CPI and Inflation
Oh dear, Mrs Chiam seems to have trouble focusing on issues. She lacks that clarity of thinking not to mention depth of understanding. She is only regurgitating layman's grouses. A pity.
SDA and SPP need to think about sending more eloquent, more prepared representatives. Their parts are truly excruciating. Great job by Vincent and Gerald though.
@sandman0 GOD SDA and SPP! Vincent and Gerald brought up good point, to which Josephine has no answers to, only evasive and denial answers, stating that in her area not a SINGLE person who have to received quality health care. Although I agree that regardless of progress, there will always be some who are trying to catch up, she also stated that instead of simple talks, they should look into REALLY helping them, which I assume to be actions taken. However, from my POV, much more can be done.
Further more, Josephine's argument often requires the Minister to help elaborate and rephrasing to SOUND more convincing, which, I personally feel, is rather bad. She does not make nor prove her point of argument, but rather, backfires to becoming a supporting source to Vincent's and Gerald's concern. All in all, PAP did a great job, HOWEVER, more can be improved, unless, I'm wrong the current seats are 82-2, could make to a 60-12-12 (or sth like that)
the host should give them a small signal or hand sign to let them know that time is running out so they can end properly. PAP stood their ground but applauds to WP and SDP for performing well too. Cheers to them!
Good plans can be drawn out from both either party but to make an implement after plans, was the one that screw up the good plans.. i believe most of singaporeans already notice that.. this is the weakness that our goverment has.
Lina Chiam really cannot speak well. A politician must be able to convey message cleary and she had a hard time getting her message across.
stn0404 7 months ago
melissa hyak speaks better than lina chiam..hahahaha
zaleenaabdullah 10 months ago
josephine is a joke.
zachng 10 months ago 2
omg..sda is disturbing....can they not contest...
HeliosExeunt 10 months ago
@HeliosExeunt Haha. I assume that you're living in one of the SDA-contested wards just as I am. And yeah, I agree. They suck big time. I'm not a PAP supporter but looking at the SDA makes me wanna vote for PAP.
ArisiusGrey 10 months ago
What a big mistake to put Chiam's wife there.... irritating...
leonlim007 10 months ago
I never trust Josephine ! Even the host cut her off when she blah blah blah ...
buey tahan
Dunblufflah 10 months ago
Pak Cik in Da House!!!
n0styl3 10 months ago
12:23 Foreigners contribute GST?
zouker 10 months ago
03:23 that Vincent guy sitting very comfortably and confidently. stylomilo
weskerghostbutterfly 10 months ago
12:02 - What distinguishes Singapore? Honestly, being a Singaporean, I think it's the language that is beyond redemption, seriousness and stupidity.
Most Singaporeans are so stupid that they need to be taught how to make love.
Clearly there's nothing wrong in speaking Singlish but why are we still enunciating 3 as tree? Even Scandinavians speaks better English than us.
Seriously, 40+ years later the country's realised it's uniquely boring and later made up for it with casinos and F1.
zenron 10 months ago
at 13:52 i knew who NOT to vote for already.
gladyschock 10 months ago
13:52. big big LOL
propub 10 months ago
I'm sorry but having zero gst for the low income isn't going to help anything because they are already spending so little. Even though the PAP is not perfect, for the time being it is hard to convince me that any of the other parties can do better.
That said, hopefully the increasing number of unhappy voices will be enough to wake our political leaders from their comfortable couches dreaming about a bright future for Singapore and start looking harder at the problems at hand.
- First time voter
blackrabbit2999 10 months ago
@blackrabbit2999 I dont think you realize what they're saying. What they are proposing is NOT a zero gst. It's a progressive gst, think paying no GST for food and paying something like 10% for your iPhone4.
And you're wrong saying that it wouldnt help anything because they're " spending so little ", I'm afraid your sense of "little" is probably a little skewed there. That pittance is, to them, a large sum of money and so it would help, perhaps not by pure numbers but certainly by proportion
nekolux 10 months ago
Lina...omg...please...it's really excruciating
justwatchitnowok 11 months ago 9
Anyone else think that Tharman is beginning to look more and more like a muppet?
packrat3011 11 months ago
SPP representative is like an Beautician Manager ..
SDA representatiive is a total shame cos he cant speak that well. Maybe his idea is impressive but as a Asisstant General Secretary.. its a total shame.
SDP representative very impressive, eloquent and very clear view.
WP representative on/off form to explain his views for WP.. but still the 2nd best.
mastera7x 11 months ago
I'm terribly sorry M'am, but the phrase "Power corrupts; Absolute power corrupts absolutely" was NOT coined by your husband, it was coined by Lord Acton,a noted British historian and moralist, in 1887.
Please do not pass it off as your own.
nicster84 11 months ago 5
Seriously need to brush up on eloquence and preparedness...
Chuanny 11 months ago 2
Btw, if SDP or WP is contesting in my area which I hope so, they have already earned my vote.
zark100 11 months ago 4
I simply can't agree with what Josephine said about the affordability of healthcare services. Yes, she have never met a single person in her 5 years of service who cannot afford quality healthcare service. Anyone whom is facing against a health problem, would they ignore all possible forms of treatment because they could not afford? In the front, they are getting their treatments, but at the back, you see a whole load of debts to be cleared for the rest of their life. Is this called affordable?
zark100 11 months ago
OMG from 14:50
nevin87 11 months ago
sad, not enough time for everything to be said
etjl 11 months ago 2
the only relevant rebutes are from Vincent and gerald... cheers...
stanrick 11 months ago 3
Lol... Tharman trying to smoke ppl, Regressive taxation no matter how much you give back in transfer payments will make one much more worse off. MRS(Final) > MRS(initial) . Less choices = worse off. Cummon we're not idiots
komaresan 11 months ago 2
SDP and workers Party ihave shown that they did their homework.. However, it is just painful to watch the other two opposition parties. If we are to pin our hopes on these alternative parties, our society will head for decline.
charleshoon 11 months ago 4
Just wtf is Lina thinking? Was she drunk?
theyasman 11 months ago 8
Lina is totally out of line
lesterchuaideas 11 months ago 4
Just wondering why the Mandarin political forum wasn't given as much publicity (trailers)? Could it be because the opposition representatives performed pretty well during that forum? They indeed raised practical and relevant issues that the PAP govt needs to address. The opposition representatives put forth their views and concerns lucidly and convincingly. Do watch the Mandarin political forum as well. The moderator for that forum did a better job. No one was unduly rushed or interrupted.
gorlieyes 11 months ago
Minister's trying to control his laughter.
digniteee 11 months ago 4
where's NSP and RP? goh meng soon and kenneth are more powerful to truimph PAP.. my only wish is no 3 and 4 corner fights..
mcht50202 11 months ago
Absolute power corrupts absolutely. Her husband said that? Didn't even bother to credit the real person who says it? I'm pretty sure a historian named Lord Acton said that.
MajorYT 11 months ago
i would agree wif sandman0. Dr Vincent and Gerald really provided good voices for the opposition parties.
genegenetan 11 months ago
SDA and SPP are just wasting time
lamesaint4 11 months ago 4
PAP is still the best. Very eloquent speakers and clear train of thoughts.
Singapore is a very good society and the government has played the most important role in that. I travel often to other countries and stay extended terms in some countries. You will realise how fortunate we are.
SDP should also realise that we can't formulate policies based on the poorest man on the street. I think our current policies are pretty good.
BTW, I am not PAP lackey. Just a proud Singaporean.
tancheeken 11 months ago 12
@tancheeken I agree with your sentiments! i too am a proud Singaporean!
treepixel 11 months ago
@tancheeken Exactly. After spending time in other countries, we should see how fortunate we are.
Tekhelet75 11 months ago
Wet markets?!?! WHAAAT???
ling86 11 months ago 9
Cheers to WP and SDP came prepared sadly Mrs Chaim pls get a able candidate to run Potong Pasir they deserve a better alternate voice in parliament and as usual Tharman was fair in his answers accepting facts but no solutions to the rising cost on CPI and Inflation
pillaisoma 11 months ago
what is the SDA guy talking abt?!! its hilarious!!
spdwolf 11 months ago
Comment removed
seahlisong 11 months ago
Comment removed
seahlisong 11 months ago
Oh dear, Mrs Chiam seems to have trouble focusing on issues. She lacks that clarity of thinking not to mention depth of understanding. She is only regurgitating layman's grouses. A pity.
hemjoo 11 months ago 5
@hemjoo F U ...
shoexy 11 months ago
SDA and SPP need to think about sending more eloquent, more prepared representatives. Their parts are truly excruciating. Great job by Vincent and Gerald though.
sandman0 11 months ago 53
@sandman0 GOD SDA and SPP! Vincent and Gerald brought up good point, to which Josephine has no answers to, only evasive and denial answers, stating that in her area not a SINGLE person who have to received quality health care. Although I agree that regardless of progress, there will always be some who are trying to catch up, she also stated that instead of simple talks, they should look into REALLY helping them, which I assume to be actions taken. However, from my POV, much more can be done.
janusmycroft 11 months ago
Further more, Josephine's argument often requires the Minister to help elaborate and rephrasing to SOUND more convincing, which, I personally feel, is rather bad. She does not make nor prove her point of argument, but rather, backfires to becoming a supporting source to Vincent's and Gerald's concern. All in all, PAP did a great job, HOWEVER, more can be improved, unless, I'm wrong the current seats are 82-2, could make to a 60-12-12 (or sth like that)
janusmycroft 11 months ago
Well Done WP and SDP!
SDA and SPP seems too nervous to bring their points across.
swordtail 11 months ago 2
the host should give them a small signal or hand sign to let them know that time is running out so they can end properly. PAP stood their ground but applauds to WP and SDP for performing well too. Cheers to them!
yappyc 11 months ago
Melissa is no bitch. She's doing her job as a moderator. PAP, WP & SDP! Three cheers to all!
bachoff 11 months ago 31
Comment removed
bachoff 11 months ago
@TheAzazel83 agreed. bitch host
garudo86 11 months ago
The bitch host keeps rushing them. I think she was late for a booty call.
TheAzazel83 11 months ago
Good plans can be drawn out from both either party but to make an implement after plans, was the one that screw up the good plans.. i believe most of singaporeans already notice that.. this is the weakness that our goverment has.
boretime 11 months ago
we should put an audience in there.
currentjer 11 months ago
Keep it coming! ;))))))
clarkkent999 11 months ago