Sonarluminescence- is this nuclear fusion?

[cchj768]

sonoluminescence is not nuclear fusion.

[boinghd]

If it is, then you can make a quick 200 K.

[ihventura]

Put a bird on it!

[Copperfoilhat]

If you have seen the movie, "Chain Reaction" Starring Keanu Reeves and Morgan Freeman. Then you have heard this story before.

[STR1K3RJUST1N]

@Copperfoilhat you read my mind

[The1stWarning]

Mind raped =o Much Love

[ShokTrauma]

What do 7 people have against sonoluminescence?

[w9x7cv3vg6]

isnt it amazin what one can do with energy in our present form to do little hobby projects,I would like to be a fly on the wall when this was made..hmmmm how many pessos are these guys making off this video..not much from what I see....ELK

[levilisko]

amazing! i don't know squat about this stuff but does it work on any liquid? if it was nuclear fusion wouldnt it create another element which would be easily detectable?

[jm41637]

@levilisko They spent time to detect neutron instead of to detect helium or higher energy output of experiment, why?

It's not important who will receive a Nobel Prize for fusion. Only thing important is to found a new energy or we will destroy Earth very soon with fossil fuel.

I would say that every solution for this problem is right because it leads to final and acceptible solution for all of us. Respect to all scientists.

[lenolas33]

@smithforthphd  is this a request?

[Tzimnewman3]

BBC news reporting this as new from November 25th 2011 yet I notice the video was posted in 2008. BBC (British Bullshit Corporation) like to repeat old news as new.

[KrutoyPostowoy]

@Tzimnewman3 they report about the new cheap approach to sonoluminescence actually. The phenomenon its self is not new and they admit it in the article ;)

[kal1nas]

Mind = Blown

[EPISTEMESCIENTIA]

It's sonoluminescence BTW.

[nikonovak]

It's Jesus



[ErniesLament]

if only we lived in a world where the technology to analyze the spectral composition of light wasn't decades away, then determining whether or not it is fusion would be an utterly trivial matter. i guess i'll have to dream on.

[GibsonsForLife]

The first thing i thought of was pistol shrimp hehe

[catsfromhell1]

Wonderful. Very interesting concepts.

[2110kop]

The solution to all our energy problems is going to be Star Scientific's Muon Catalysed Fusion. Check out their Youtube video channel go to "In the footsteps of fusion. Also google Star Scientic Limited as well as their chairman's blog "The Big Picture by Andrew Horvath" Clean cheap abundant energy now.

[ErniesLament]

@2110kop Star Scientific is the most obvious and brazen energy scam I've seen since Blacklight Power. I feel really really sorry for whatever investors they're able to dupe.

[medexamtoolsdotcom]

Well, this is something I remember reading about in 1996, and I tried to duplicate it but I couldn't fix piezo disks to the glass well enough I think.

But fusion? Not a chance. Even if it DID accomplish it, think about it. How would any energy it generates be manifest? Would it make the water the bubble is suspended in get HOT and BOIL? If it even SLIGHTLY started to boil that would obliterate the sound focusing effect in the water. A self defeating notion.

[TheGeneralOfWar]

@medexamtoolsdotcom

Ah Sonarluminescence works in "any" fluid not just water.

[b23lover]

I'm not a physicist but this is so cool. Imagine the possiblities......of lighting cities with one mini star at night. Or using the same concept for light bulbs..............omg imagine the future of nightclubs with this technology. All that sound , all that lights awesome.

[MaynardMouse]

Awesome...You misspelled the title, though...It's SONOluminescence. David Wilcock's work shows how this helps to demonstrate some of the ancient concepts about the "world tree" and the creation of the universe, check out the free books on his website DIVINE COSMOS.

[c15konker]

omg........... how stupidly simple things really are and at the same time so complex

[Unbeginner]

Thank goodness that was noticed by a rational person.

If it would have happened to a religious person, the latter would immediately assume it's a sign from some specific deity one is biased for and start professing having contacted one. Nothing useful would come of it. Furthermore, the person would only harm people with their crazy stories like the members of Abrahamic religions have for centuries.

[theclack]

@Unbeginner Yes, a religious person would go through the trouble of creating the conditions where sonoluminescence can occur so they could use it for some ridiculous sign.... Not all religious people are uneducated, superstitious conservatists. Your comment might be the most bigoted thing I have heard in quite a long time.

[jaredknightcom]

I Love It !

[777NihonSloan]

Can I just get a video of sonoluminescence without all of the dressing for the mainstream pop culture?

[mellowmark1]

@777NihonSloan

I'm with you on that one. If the science isn't enough on it's own to hold your attention than you're obviously not in the right place.

[DreamPharaoh]

I wanted to duplicate this experiment, when I finally learn how to make the ultrasound transducer that my brother got off of ebay for me work, as a side experiment. I read an article not too long ago that this was a fraud. Please someone tell me otherwise with proof.

[derman077]

Tiiiiny fusion... In my bubblesss. Makes me happyyy.. lol

[PinkProgram]

Even if it isn't fusion it is still a useful thing to know. Pistol shrimp can do this with their pincers ^_^ one could mimic the pincer's properties to create sonoluminescent cavitation ;D an interesting source of symbiotic energy ^_^

[HybridWaterMan2]

This video is several years old- has this research led anywhere beyond this example yet?

[horatiocox]

@HybridWaterMan2 no the scientist responsible for the claims has been prosecuted for lying about the validity of his data and suspended from duty at his university. The BBC tried to replicate it but it didn't work

[horatiocox]

@HybridWaterMan2

[09205479428]

cymatics.. this is how energy / life is created by external sound waves.

[cakefarts]

i think the wavefront of the bubble collapse is traveling faster than the local speed of light in water, which causes the disturbed atoms to release cherenkov radiation, causing the "blue glow".

[GG4S3xTo]

sn1pe352 search for, degrees in engineering. follow the path they lead for you, get your degree. then you can start making educated statements :)

[rmaco]

@GG4S3xTo It anyone needs to "get their degree" it sounds like you do. If anything this only confirms the energy equals mass or E=MC2.

[GG4S3xTo]

@rmaco Ohhhh...my ignorant friend. That has nothing to do with this conversation =D

[pkillor]

Like a Pistol Shrimp !!

[xexorz]

What if the liquid was liquid heavy hydrogen...? Preferably liquid hydrogen that is under as high a pressure and temperature as is obtainable within reason...

Just a thought...?

[MrAnderson234]

Wow... science fiction really doesn't exist anymore...

[JonThm]

To do nuclear fusion you want high pressure water, or steam in turbulent flow.

[Mendelevium146]

I really wonder if they observed the collapse in xray and neutrino, it seems to me it would be an easy way to sort that out..

[Mendelevium146]

that is one of the intriguing unsolved problems in physics, very fascinating

[Mendelevium146]

that is one of the intriguing unsolved problems in physics

[JonThm]

A plasma does nuclear fusion

[audiotrax2000]

Amazing!

[46ace]

google the movie: "chain reaction"

[Zamolxx]

Nihil est sine ratione! Brilliant vid, document yourselves about Vladimir Vernadsky, William Draper Harkins, Gottfried Leibniz, Bernhard Riemann, Carl Gauss, Abraham Kastner, Max Plank, Pierre-Paul Riquet, Filippo Brunelleschi, Christian Huygens, Pierre de Fermat, Johannes Kepler, Nicholas of Cusa, David Hillbert, Plato, Eratosthenes, Archytas, Menaechmus and the practice of sphearics by the far back ancients.

[burninmunkeys]

If they want to see if it's fusion why don't they stick a bubble of hydrogen in there and see if they get helium.

[obviouspsudonyme]

What a discovery! Perhaps my grandchildren will never know what a PGE utility bill looks like if we can harness sonoluminescence for our energy needs.

[NASCreations]

@obviouspsudonyme You're being a little naive aren't you? Do you honestly think that energy companies will allow such technology to take off, and give everyone free energy? What they'll do, if they don't suppress it, is make damn sure they can charge people for it in some way.

[JonThm]

Fusion from water is life force!

[wallacoloo]

How do you keep the bubble from rising up to the top of the flask?

[lcabosa]

@wallacoloo the bublle is trap at a node of the sound wave.

[soylentgreenb]

@wallacoloo You don't. There's no time for the bubble to rise perceptibly because it's not the same bubble; the bubble forms, expands, collapses and gives off light thousands of times per second.

The bubbles can only form in that particular spot because sound waves are focused there; and they are so intense that the pressure periodically falls below its vapour pressure, forming a bubble.

[AmpleLight]

This means that we can train our dolphins to shoot hadukens?

[JonThm]

We see nuclear fusion from water

[JonThm]

It is molecular nuclear fusion

[JonThm]

Life does fusion from water

[SoundsLikePurple]

concentrating sound waves in such a fashion as this can open up a gateway for the high-pressured aetheric fluid to flow into our physical reality, forming light, heat and energy

[neurochris]

can this be done at home? how does he get the bubble to stay still like that?

[AmpleLight]

@neurochris several ultrasonic transducers in series or paralell to a multichannel rf amplifier, directed at the spherical center of the cork modified Round bottom flask. Potentiate the signal with hpf preamplifier to fish out your the magic note of light.

[Emaniac69]

I assume that this is a BBC documentary. Does anyone know the name of the original souce?

[CTSSTC]

@Emaniac69

Nuclear Fusion: The Star In The Jar

[CTSSTC]

@Emaniac69

Nuclear Fusion: The Star In The Jar

google will find u the vid right off the bat ; )

[ransomdave]

@Emaniac69 I may be wrong, but from the narrators voice I think that it is an episode of panorama.

[razorflown2]

I think it's bbc horizon... but im too lazy to open up a new tab, google it and find out...

[kunadude]

This would be implosion energy. The negative side of

The coin of energy the rest of the world uses everyday.

Energy according to physics finally.. Recognizes negative

Energy. Nearly all our science and theories are based upon

Merely one side of this duality. Namely the expansive heat

Generated forms of energy. And only recently. At least as far as

Science acceptance of negative energy...taken together is

Perpetual. Work is only the measure of changing energy

From one form to another.

[kunadude]

So I think its wrong or a mistake to simply assume something

Is hot, merely by its light spectrum....the temps may not be

Anywhere what science think is the temps of the inside of a bubble

In sonoluminesence given the fact that cold electricity does

Exist....if you tried to calculate the temps in that case merely

By its light spectrum you would be completly wrong...

[kunadude]

Given that standard science all measured energy and the

Measuring of the photonic light spectrum in their opinion

Must be some heat generating thermal process. Expansive forces.

Meanwhile, science has proven the existence of cold electricty.

This is cold during shorting. A spark also gives light. But

Is cold not hot. By there method they would assume the

Light energy from this spark would be hot....when its cold!

[kunadude]

I believe scientific community is looking at sono luminesence

From the wrong viewpoint. Given that there are over a dozen

Theories explaining it as best they can. There is no unaminous

Scientfific consensus as to its principles...

[Squatchmichael]

Do you really think that physicists--people with 10 years of courses involving differential equations, analysis, mechanics, thermodynamics, quantum physics, optics--have less of an idea than you do? Media outlets don't do the amount of rigor justice. And yes, light emission does indicate temperature. It's called Stefan's law. You say "science says..." repeatedly. It's application of observation, hypothesis testing--that's what science is. It's not politics or religion.

[membland]

i love to try and figure out stuff like this for my self, im dam sure the governments and large companies of ths world have or are on this idea already or have figured it out and discarded it for whatever money reasons, i say money as thats all they want to know about, maybe in 30 years they will find a use for it but only if it does not disrupt the cash flow for the fat cats

[TenoreRobusto1347]

They should at least get a half-decent singer... her technique is terrible. She widens her vowels far too much to access her high-voice, and her support is totally ineffecient: listen to how slow her vibrato is...

Btw, bubblefusion is most likely a dead end for efficient energy, much like harvesting firefly light for common use.

[KKinsane2009]

I just watched like an hour of this on google to find no, apparently its not fusion, well what is it then??? don't just give us a blank like cold fusion tell us what it IS doing...

[sherwin1988]

what program was this from mate?

[yunawind]

Studying - or worse- publishing bubblefusion related work is a quick way to end your academic career and become a laughing stock. There are many examples...

[BlueIced256]

Weren't the greatest scientist in history laughed at, when they presented their theories and after centuries we were able to prove them right? Science is a living organism and is only a fact until proven otherwise.

[yunawind]

The difference is, that sonofusion has been studied quite alot and most scientists who have studied it conclude that it does not hold potential for providing a source of break-even nuclear fusion power. The nails are already in the coffin for this one, and any more research on the topic just seems to be trying to revive a long dead concept.

[777static777]

There are also plenty of examples of people in the past laughing at individuals that suggested that the world was round, not flat, or that it orbited the sun, as opposed to the sun orbiting the earth.

I'm not saying that I think this is nuclear fusion (don't know enough to say that). But it could be, or could become fusion... it may be an outlandish idea now, but so was evolution.

[yunawind]

People often use that argument and in this case it is not right to do so. Sonoluminescence is nothing new and has been rigorously researched and the consensus among the scientific community is that sonofusion is not possible.

We haven't missed or 'not discovered' something, but instead there there are fundamental problems that cannot be overcome. Sonofusion has no future. It's over. You cannot defy the laws of physics, except in hollywood movies. There are always those who will cling to hope...

[Narsiliouz]

Sorry man but that is bullsheet :)

Go and READ.. :/

On June 11, 2009, Kimberly-Clark filed a patent application on a thermonuclear fusion cell using ultrasound horns and by using an electric potential between the horn and the cell wall. They claimed to fuse hydrogen isotopes inside a carrier liquid, namely water and to have solved the reproductibility problems of Taleyarkhan in preamble

Source = Wikipedia

[soylentgreenb]

@Narsiliouz There are innumerable patents for the physically impossible(for instance, perpetual motion machines of the first kind). A patent is not an endorsement, it is monopoly granted to you on the reproduction of your particular patented device, mechanism or contraption.

If the reproducibility problems have truly been solved the confirmation would be in the form of peer-reviewed articles in respectable science magazines.

[soylentgreenb]

@777static777 "There are also plenty of examples of people in the past laughing at individuals that suggested that the world was round[...]"

They knew the Earth was round in medieval times, they knew it was round in the dark ages, the romans knew it was round, the greek knew it was round since about the time of Pythagoras. It surely may be the case that early greek philosophers were laughed at for believing the Earth was round, but this is not recorded in history.

[walter0bz]

I just read that a type of shrimp uses this effect (flicking a claw) to stun prey.

if it really is fusion, that's quite fascinating.. a shrimp using a nuclear weapon ??

[TORSOPHUCK]

we humans have been able to replicate the same process that gives life and energy to the universe as a whole say like stars through nuclear fusion

but now we can do the same with using water and sound... imagine much later in the future what can we create... or destroy?

[wacker1983]

we do replicate nothing .. we just observed this phenomenon. btw I wonder why author uses title sonarluminescence instead of sonoluminescence as in literature.

[faro0485]

Is it me or is that smaller bubble going around the star, like a planet?

[LyrGil]

There has been much progress with regard to this research...not with Dr. Putterman, however.

[SpartanSasuke]

you mean chain reaction

[JonThm]

My PhD supervisor, Proif Zimmerman is interested in this work. Talk to me!

[sn1pe352]

where did you find this video my friend? It's simply fascinating and directly proves edoesnot=mc^2

[DarkJedi8x]

search for this torrent>>>>BBC Documentary-Horizon-Nuclear Fusion An Experiment To Save The World

[sn1pe352]

You're the man DarkJedi8x seriously, I really want to tell you sincerely thank you for providing me with the information, now all I need is an editing program so I can cut it like yours.

Namaste my new friend

Nicholas Ellis

[crackfe]

it actually proves the opposite

[HerrrHosen]

@sn1pe352 What does this have to do with relativity?

[Zamolxx]

That's true go to milesmathisdotcom and you'll find a critique of the standing errors in physics.

[Iridium237]

@Zamolxx I have reviewed this website and found it to be rife with errors.

[Zamolxx]

I know, but that again so is mainstream physics. I don't like the way he attacks Riemann and supports mechanicism though.

[w9x7cv3vg6]

@Iridium237 what website is that ? youtube ? lol

[tomargir]

@sn1pe352

directly proves edoesnot=mc^2: ROFLMAO

[RimstarOrg]

@sn1pe352 You can also find it in CooCurrent's youtube channel: An Experiment to save the world - BBC Horizon.

[dizzious]

@sn1pe352 That is completely wrong. There is nothing here that even comes close to disproving e=mc^2.

[horatiocox]

@sn1pe352 how does this disprove e=mc^2

[bobstevefrank123]

@horatiocox Violates other laws of physics, too. This is probably simply pathological science, where despite extensive knowledge and training, the scientist deceives himself about experiments because of the grandiose possibilities the false conclusion would hold.

[Marktheshtfgenius]

@sn1pe352 ah, arguing with Einstein...How brilliantly stupid, ignorant and arrogant!

[sn1pe352]

@Marktheshtfgenius I wish you knew who you were talking to, I am currently working at UCF Academy of Sciences and was Awarded my PhD at the Age of 25, English might not be my mother tongue and I usually don't respond to destructive interference, but if you actually understood the significance of this experiment and its relationship to E=MC^2 you would probably not call me Ignorant and Arrogant, It's widely accepted in New Quantum Physics that Matter IS Energy but conceptually e=mc^2 is incorrect

[sn1pe352]

@Marktheshtfgenius I love how your kind of people don't understand the basics of quantum physics from micro to macro yet still somehow regurgitate your high school's physics-chemistry teachers outdated understanding of our cosmos, If you truly understood this experiment its relationship to QED you would probably not be so quick to dismiss my simple yet scientifically method-proven statement on the relationship between sonoluminescence and direct relativistic violation of our conceptual idea e=mc

[Bmambl]

@sn1pe352 As a physicist myself, I fail to see how this phenomenon relates to a relativistic violation. Whilst it does have some obvious relationships to QED, there is no place in which this experiment violates e=mc^2. Nowhere. The energy comes from the sound waves. The duration of the bursts of light are said to be of the order of picoseconds, and their energy in the milliwatt range. Sound waves can easily carry this amount of energy.

Link me a paper or proof, and I might take you seriously

[Iridium237]

@sn1pe352 This video has nothing to do with general relativity. Beside E=(1/Sqrt[1-(c/v)])*M*C^2 anyway.

[Castigar2000]

@sn1pe352 I have about 30 thousand hours worth of HAVING FRIENDS AND FUCKING. NERD.

[KarimShindy]

@Castigar2000 you are a tool

[Castigar2000]

@sn1pe352 Also... Theoretical physics? Why not just throw your money in a garbage disposal? How about get some education you can apply to a real job?

[sn1pe352]

my theory of everything predicted this way before I saw the experiment , its so obvious

[maddhattertime]

Whoa, Dude!

[JonThm]

Sonarluminecense is a type of turbuelnce, molecular nulear fusion. There are better wasy to do MNF.

[jackburtonisgod]

Gee Mr. Peabody, that's right!

[JonThm]

Totally right, plants in the light do nuclear fusion!

[carotteaubeurre]

I heard about trace of tritium in some experiment.

[Sunarta]

I believe it's co-related to Zero Point Energy, instead of Fusion reaction.

[pusqa]

a ti si pa tud slovenc ha? =)..sn koma zaj vido =).. no prav zanimivo to..

samo, kak pa se te to v slovenščini reče? (sonarna luminiscenca al je kaki..bol poslovenjen izraz? =) )

[Physalis925]

I just saw a documentary on it and the test they did showed that the reaction doesn't give off neutrons, which would of been a sign of fusion

[DarkJedi8x]

yes you are right...that is sad but they have to try it somehow

[UndetectabIe]

@DarkJedi8x your sentence doesnt make any sense to Physalis925's comment

[Tolstiy1980]

Ordinary Sonoluminescence doesn't give enough temperature for the thermonuclear fusion. But at special conditions it does.

Extra neutrons were detected during the experiments with deuterated acetone, when the cavitation nuclear had the size of neutron.

[drshields1988]

@Physalis925 i heard elsewhere that it showed measurements of tritium and neutron release that were consistent with fusion happening

[lcabosa]

@drshields1988 you are making confusion between , cold fusion and Sonarluminescence

[Maxschellenberg]

WOW!!!!!

[onthecuttingedge2005]

What ultrasonic frequency is most efficient at Sonar-luminescence cavitation of bubbles?

[Stareyzo]

It's about 25kHz

[Rolungo]

depends on the flask and temperature too. But for 100ml flask it should be around 25khz.