The Reality of God - Who is Master Fard Muhammad Pt. 2

[MrGwaneDM]

He proved that the spirit of God can dwell in a man. I think he should read the bible further in order to get the proper interpretation of scripture. John 4:24 says that God is a Spirit and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth. He is talking borderline Idolatry. Read Exodus 20: 1-15

[firstman5555]

You tube "Black And White Twins" ...and see that Black people can look like white People, example: Master Fard Muhammad.

[Originalman320]

@firstman5555 Also the late NY Congressman, and preacher Adam Clayton Powell Jr. looked White, but he was Black.

[woodslounge]

loving this

[nubiagold]

This truth is very strong.

[aldomovielovers]

nation of islam is NOT ISLAM

[1pitchblack]

@aldomovielovers so what is islam?

[trinidadparaminman]

@1pitchblack islam is a religion that teaches that God is one and unique, He has no partners and no children, He have creations and He does not appear in the form of a man or any of His creations. islam is a religion that teaches that all races are equal, no whites is superior to black, no blacks is superior to whites and so on. those teachings are in the Quran. NOI goes against those teachings!

[Originalman320]

@trinidadparaminman Please. Yes Allah is unique. So are you. The Nation of Islam does NOT teach that we are superior to Whites.

[trinidadparaminman]

@Originalman320 OK but didn't elijah muhammad call white people "blue eyed devils"?

[Originalman320]

@trinidadparaminman No. God told him that they were the Devil. The deeds of White people bear witness to that.

[Originalman320]

@trinidadparaminman Holy Qur'an 15:29 says Allah breathed into man His spirit. That alone says man is God.

[trinidadparaminman]

@Originalman320 but God does not eat, drink and sleep. he has no need to do those because he never gets hungry, thirsty and tired.

[Originalman320]

@trinidadparaminman Says who?

[doubleO16]

The thing about these NOI cats is that they are always reading and teaching out of the bible yet they say they are muslims. You dont see preachers giving sermons out the quran. This just shows these cats don't know the truth is. The fact is if there's hell below we are all going to go.

[Originalman320]

@doubleO16 It's you that don't know what the truth is. If you want to dig up a man buried in Mississippi, you don't dig in China.  Our people were buried in the falsehoods that were added to the Bible. So we go to the Bible to raised our people up by teaching the truth of the Bible. Most preachers don't see the value of the Holy Qur'an, and none of them have the mission of raising up our people. Neither do Muslims outside the Nation.

[2kthig]

Where is this taking place? Are there any groups in Mississippi?

[oc1906]

Your quran and bible were written by MAN so nuthin in either book knows anything beyond human understanding/imagination meaning NOTHING is divine about either book, LOL yall are hilarious. God is a man made myth, people follow religion/gods because they believe what they want to believe not because they want truth. .

[oc1906]

"You have to show everything to black people" and did you just pump up the white man as if only white people are scientist and say a "negro" cant understand it LMFAO really? Dude is poision to his own community, an idiot and a black racist against black.

The universe cant get here on its own because its to great hmm but what created the "creator," or did he will himself to be out of nothingness? His statement defeats itself either something can come out of nothingness or it cant.

[1930fard]

Hey dumbo,you are intepreting what you want from his words. But our lessons say that matter is neither created nor destroyed,yet the universe is the created living power of this order,which Allah brought into existence,space didnt make a baby,neither does a mother,she carries,but she dont originate.the man was thought,and dont ask about the origin of the first thought,just know it caused all life,so your play on the ministers words,is not what he meant,its what you think he meant....

[oc1906]

1930fard, "Dumbo", you're cute. Your "lessons say",,, listen to your own words, who does your lessons come from? A man, and what that man does is takes unarguable truths then adds romanticisms and mobo jumbo in and you buy it all as truth then you call me Dumbo, brilliant.

"Dont ask about the first thought" lol right you want me to put a leash on my questions (how religion stays strong) and accept a man's word. You sir are hearing/seeing what YOU want to hear. Best regards.

-Muhammad

[reedmesh]

Do you believe in God?

[oc1906]

Reedmesh - No I dont. I have been saturated my entire life with the idea of God from one religion to the next everybody claims their God is the "supreme" or only God yet NO god in NO way has ever made him/her/itself evident. There is no more proof "god" is real than Santa the Easter Bunny or the Tooth Fairy. So to some it up YES I am an AVID Atheist, I found myself picking on Christians and came here for a reality check and quickly found the same shit in a different stall.

[reedmesh]

ok, you have reason for your stance. answer me this, how did we get here? do you believe in another being greater than the humans on earth?

[oc1906]

Reedmesh, Classic question, people look at the greatness of the earth and demand that something had to create this but the question/argument in itself is self defeating because how ever miraculous the earth is the creator would have to be greater and if something cant come from nothing who or what created God? So it either can or it cant, time either has a beginning and space must have limits or not. I have NEVER heard a realistic argument of what created the creator.

[oc1906]

Reedmesh - I want to directly answer your question We directly got here through millions of years of evolution, if you want details use Human evolution as a search title here on You Tube.

Do I believe another being is greater, YES!!! Scientist say there are as many planets/stars as there are grains of sand on earth (Thats bigger than our imaginations) something somewhere has evolved to be greater (stronger smarter) than humans.

[reedmesh]

Evolution doesnt happen by itself..You have points and I can understand how one can have the belief you have...but faith is believing without seeing..true darkness contains a power that scientist cant explain, example the "black hole" in the universe...God created himself out of that darkness and matter over time(evolution)...he created us in his liking women are the closest in resemble..they posses that power in their womb,carry life for nine months resembling 9 planets, its deeper than science

[oc1906]

Romantic connections but for me mobo jumbo. God created himself out of darkness is a simple answer that for me will not suffice. I debate this all the time your position is classic and people see what they want to see, you see God I see a passed down fable. For me nothing in this life time has ever proven itself to be deeper than science. Jump off the roof regardless of what God you call science and physics will win. Science cant explain a lot of things yet, but that by no means proves God is.

[reedmesh]

What race are u? how did the bible thousands of years ago predict that a people would rule over another people destroying them for over 400 years(white rule over blacks)...then how was it predicted that the nation then will receive a judgement from God?(america is falling apart as soon as a black man was made president(shows the sign of God raising up the dead(black people) and destroy the trouble maker(america)...you will soon believe in God when you see things to come soon

[reedmesh]

Do you believe there ever was a Jesus? let me help u understand the symbolizm behind that man..Christianity teaches about him all wrong..Jesus and Mary were symbols of a greater meaning as the bible operates in this way...Mary the virgin symbolizes a virgin people(blacks) blacks are a virgin people because they were robbed of their everything by whites and they never got to have that intercourse and relationship with God! Jesus represents the Judgement that God will reign down on this nation!

[oc1906]

Redmeesh, there are universal truths such as laughter, joy, enjoyment of sex, pain, struggle, the love of children, the fear of death, etc. These universal truths surpass time and places. If your God is a universal truth why write in riddles, why give the word to ONE people, in ONE language, at ONE time, why not let your words and meaning be as clear as all other universal truths. Far to complicated and for me it means man is forcing a way to wrap his reality around a fable. Smile Robbed?? cont.

[oc1906]

Robbed or sold??? The white man didn't rob anyone of anything in the start. The beginning perpetrators of our demise were other Africans who sold us into slavery. Imagine someone comin to your house and stealing one person and then came back 4 another, you better believe on that third return there would be an army of people waiting for war, but they took 1000s. The white people were the fire but the AFRICAN threw other Africans into the fire, we had issues before whites arrived, thus NO VIRGIN.

[oc1906]

LOL, for some reason although your position annoys me a little I like you, LOL you have a calmness not found in most believers LOL still laughing. Im Black. The bible makes lots of claims, but the bible also is full of evil BS that teaches it followers to kill and harm innocent people. The believers will pull out the portions that fit their reality and all but ignore the ugly part that society would shun. From my position I don't have to explain a positive unless the negative is also explained.

[reedmesh]

when u go saying the bible teaches to kill innocent people...please come with scripture that says kill innocent people...the white man used the ignorance of blacks that they knew didnt understand the words in that book to justify what they were doing...we were not allowed to have religion for a reason because they feared one of us might get the message and realize a slave is not what God created us to be...the calmness in me is from the truth I know.

[reedmesh]

there are also universal truths in the bible but it couldnt be written as clear as you are asking for reasons...modern time is so different from the time in which it was written...but the construction of the truths in the bible, quran, and other holy books are written to stand against time...the bible had a meaning for back then and for now..also when things are made so simple it is easily discredited and tampered with to make another meaning as even the complicated bible has been done

[reedmesh]

Christianity was created by white people to use Jesus as their way to get people to follow them..Jesus never claimed to be anything but a man is complete obedience to the will of God(thats the only true religion)..In the bible it clearly gives hint that he was a man of color...but today what jesus do you know of? A white man,blond hair, blue eyes(that aint my jesus)...so if jesus was to return today half the world wouldnt recognize him because they are looking for the wrong man

[reedmesh]

the cross with a snake wrapped around is what they used in rome as the sign of Christianity...the sign with the language that they used with it meant "With this sign we shall conquere"..when Jesus was here the sign he used was a fish, because he was a fisher of men in the sea of sin..those whites had a totally different agenda with setting up Christianity..they knew their days were numbered so they figured at least let us rule and raise as much hell as possible before we are to be destroyed

[oc1906]

Reedmesh- I take it from your language that you get your teachings from the Nation, my family came from the nation where they were once taught "The white blue eyed devil" it brainwashing my man. White people are not the root of all evil, man and his selfishness is. The "white man" simply profited the best and still profiting from selfishness and the selfishness of others. The crack dealer on the corner is killing his own for what the white man has, exactly like the African slave trader. Business

[reedmesh]

I get my language from the truths in the holy books...The term the "white man is evil" isnt to say that white people are all evil..the "white man" is the people in power of this world we live in that continues to discriminate all those people of color...its a term describing those white who have the feeling of white superiority in their hearts, for as a man think in his heart so is he..and only an evil person exalts himself higher than another..whites by nature are different from the original

[oc1906]

No sir "go to the store and get milk" is simple, the complexities leave room for tampering,,, know you're bible boss. Look up evil bible quotes on google read for yourself .

"If a man lies with a male as with a women, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives." (Leviticus 20:13 NAB)

A priest's daughter who loses her honor by committing fornication and thereby dishonors her father also, shall be burned to death. (Leviticus 21:9 NAB)

[reedmesh]

are these the innocent people that you are referring to? These people are commiting an act that is so sinful and a total abomination that these are just punishments in Gods eye...they are not innocent people just walkin down the street

[oc1906]

Reedmesh- All religious books are dated with the activities that are happening in then. The US constitution is more prevalent to humanity and more in-tune with whats going on TODAY free from riddles and confusion than any religious book with even less room for tampering or misreading. So maybe the "founding fathers" had more insight than your God thats not sayin much about God's "greatness."

[reedmesh]

The Holy books cover then and now!...The US constitution was for white people by white people and they had a vision of what they wanted and where they wanted to go so of course they constructed it for future circumstances they knew would eventually come to pass...You are not covered by the constitution and never have been..neither has your fathers b4 you..you can have more belief in the same man that causes your detruction and lack of understanding if you want but My God is very real and alive

[oc1906]

My man your bible is full of bullshit, and rest assured I don't make blind accusations or assumptions.

"When a man strikes his male or female slave with a rod so hard that the slave dies under his hand, he shall be punished. If, however, the slave survives for a day or two, he is not to be punished, since the slave is his own property." (Exodus 21:20-21 NAB)

"Slaves, obey your earthly masters with deep respect and fear. Serve them sincerely as you would serve Christ." (Ephesians 6:5 NLT)

[oc1906]

Reedmesh - Also (comments out of whack read below) does this mean Christianity is not for white people,,, your pov also overlooks how the bible was in fact used to justify slavery, and how is it explained that the teachings of the bible was actually forced on African slaves. So if what you're are saying is true (which for me is colorful nonsense) then this was a MASTER plan of master plans. Again the idea of it and the multiple layers are pure craziness.

[IZACHE1]

okay it ended as he was about to say...so I have to look for another one or the continuation of this

[IZACHE1]

hold up...pause...let me get the bible...see what it is he's reading from...I would like to know why this man is considered Allah...may Allah(SWT) have mercy on me for this...

[10fingersofdeath]

Episode two and still no explanation on Fard

[IsaWalks]

Minister Abdul Muhammad is my favorite of all the student ministers. I feel he is the only one that speaks closest to the teachings of T.H.E.M. than anybody. Second would be Nuri Muhammad, that's why they are so popular.

[zomuhammad22]

I agree they both are my favorite only I think Bro. Nuri is a lil better becuse Nuri speaks with more power

[KingJimil]

I agree I just think that Bro. Minister speaks closer to T.H.E.M. but I havent seen enough to truly compare but what I have saw Bro. Nuri is my fav!

[wiseearth]

What does T.H.E.M.stand for?

[1930fard]

The Honorable Elijah Muhammad....