I could be her...now I am geisha to this house. I could be her..Where we so different? She loved once... she hoped once...I might be looking into my own future.Until the real future came falling from the air...
Supposedly, I was going to finish the book for this speech I needed for school. I was halfway through and I remember that Koichi really had a wife and I think he was a chef or something..? He wasn't mentioned after that scene. I really pity Hatsumomo. :( She's been living a sad life.
in the book, do we ever find out what happened to koichi & hatsumomo? i can't remember! i mean, i know hatsumomo became a prostitute afterwards but didn't she really love koichi, that guy she slept with? why didn't they ever try running away together or something?
hatsumomo~ Her react in my opinion is not only she pissed off, but also i feel like that was the only way she could escape form that life. The life was covered with upset, jealous and nothing to lose. She burned the house, at the same time, she burned her life too.
hatsumomo~ Her react in my opinion is not only she pissed off, but also i feel like that was the only way she could escape form that life. The life was covered with upset, jealous and nothing to lose. She burned the house, at the same time, she burned her life too.
dont feel sorry for hatsumomo...yea i guess, she never wanted to be a geisha maybe, but look at where sayuri came from...they think of it as destiny. hatsumomo could have bounced out anytime she felt like it
@ocean1111diaries this was during world war 2 when Hitler was in control of Germany and America helped the Jewish people the Japanese where on Hitlers side
it wasnt in the book because Hatsumomo was asked to leave the okiya for her behavior. Perhaps in the movie they only embellished on this but she did not bite her tounge as much as you see, nor was she secretive about her actions.
she was always bad but while time goes by she turn into a cruel woman and getting crazier.....she was jealous always with Chiyo because Chiyo was better woman and even a better geisha that she was in her youth.....but with the okiya´s burning was the point when she lost her mind and when she couldn´t take it anymore......
when i saw hatsumono leaving the okiya i realized that she was so lost....she didn´t have no one in her life and no one to love that ´s why she was the way she was....Sayuri could go on with her life because she has someone to love but Hatsumono didn´t have no one...she was feeling so alone that´s why maybe she caused the okiya´s burning
they couldn't have cut the poor man's arm just for a movie, right? but they could have found another actor. oh well. just another thing that is different from the book. what a surprise!
this is world war 2. america was neutral at first in world war 2, but when japan bombed pearl harbor(in hawaii) thats when america joined the war with the allies against japan, germany, and italy
I know everybody's going to disagree, but i feel sad for Hatsumomo. I mean, if you look at it from her point of view, nobody actually wanted her around, she made money, that was it. Ya she had a temper, but you'd be pissed off too if sombody came along looking twice as better and easily loved more by everyone. But... burning down the okiya??? maybe a little excessive.
I agree with you, If i were Hatsumomo I'd have a bad temper and pissed off every day too. Imagine having the only thing that's important to you stripped away from you, and then having everyone tell you that you are worthless and old.
trust me, hastumomo's a lot easier to sympathize with in the movie than in the book. i sympathized w/ her in the book, but out of all my friends i had to be the only one :D
@SniffingDaisies she was like that from the very beginning though, even when she first met her, before she even became a geisha. she got what she deserved.
In the book, Hatsumomo bit and viciously attacked her friend, a homosexual Kabuki for making her look like a fool by kissing Mameha. As a result, Mother kicked her out of the Okiya and she was banned from Gion permanently.
Rumors speculated that Hatsumomo was living in the Miyagawa-Cho district as a prostitute(the same district that Satsu was sold to). However, it was implied she was successful in drinking herself to death with too much sake intake.
I don't really think she was evil. I think she was just hardened by the lives that geisha held back then. I mean, she's worked her entire life to become a geisha and then Sayuri kind of waltzes in and slowly undoes it, eventually taking the oikiya from Hatsumomo.
Saiyuri didnt just take the okiya from her though, when she was young, she figured out that she was with a man, she never saw him again, losing him. Its sad..
Wow! I love this scene, it made me cry. I know Hatsumomo is cruel but deep down she is bitter with jealousy. But there is no hope left for her, so she simply resigns. It is sad how Sayuri releases that they are acually very similar, and says she could be looking into her own future. The singing music was haunting, this is powerful scene.
No not that lady, I'm talking about he woman that chose Chiyo and not her sister remember when the girls was brought there and she chose between them?
Oh her...it wasn't adopting them. It was buying them. She bought girls that she thought would be pretty enough to become geisha or at least to work as slaves. At the time, she probably only wanted one more girl so she chose Chiyo. In the book it describe's Chiyo's sister as being rather unattractive, which is probably why she ended up as a prostitute.
We don't realy know...it doesn't say in the book. They were just lovers. For once things between her and a man werent about money. It was just about love and the two of them giving in to it. Yes, she was definitely giving him more than just dances, but chances are he wasnt paying her for the private time that they spent together.
All the women that lived in that okyia were not related by blood. Granny adopted Mother, Auntie was brought to the okyia to learn to become Geisha. She did not do well, she, according to the book, was too ugly and then granny broke Auntie's hip during a beating and it never healed right.
In the book, Hatsummomo read sayuri's diary. In the movie, she noticed the initials on the hankerchief and made an educated guess. Hatsummomo is very smart and she guessed that was who they would go to. she stalked them and asked around. she figured it out by looking at who Mameha and Sayuri were entertaining frequently.
Because, although they don't really portray this in the movie, Pumpkin isn't an amazing geisha. She doesn't have anything special about her like Sayuri has her eyes. She also isn't good in dance or playing the shamiisen. Also, by now, Pumpkin is a full fledged geisha, meaning she's already has her mizuage. Oh, and Hatsummomo wants to ruin sayuri's career. she figures as soon as she does that, she can focuss on Pumpkin getting adopted by the Nitta.
huh? sorry, can you rephrase that? Oh and no problem! any questions u have I'll be happy to answer. if u hve a question on one of the other videos, feel free to message me!
Remember the part when Okasan was waiting for the bidding for Sayuri, You seen that lady beside her saying unbelievable about how much money was bid for her. Is that her sister?
I don't know...I read the book and i don't recall a fire. Then again, my memory might have failed me. Surely, though, you can bet that she did have a great debt.
right the difference between the book and the movie is TOO great for me... u see i perfered the book as it portrayed nobu as an opinionated amazing guy who had an aura that demanded respect. i loved that about him... here.. his just another man going goey eyed over a girl. also in the book i disliked chiyo as her blindness to reality and head full of fairytails made life almost difficult for her almost deminishing all she worked hard for!
They changed so much from the book, it is almost like a different story. In the book she has a danna, and nobu is the one that offers her safety, and a lot of other things that really make the story so much better are forgotten.
Geisha dont have a certain hairstyle. They can wear their hair how they want it after their Mizuage, when they become a fully fledged Geisha. If you read the book, Sayuri refers to wearing several different hairstyles. Only the apprentices have to wear their hair in a certain style; 'momoware' the 'Split Peach'
in the very begining, i thought this might be a great movie. but now, it seems like nothing special. it seems like a porn movie rather than anything so call artistic. ziyi english is OMG. she is pretty, but, hey brush up ur language gal.
Aww... people are saying bad things about Gongli or Hatsumomo. But I think if people hated her character, Gongli did some good acting as the villain ^^
hello hello eco........is some one there why they take the geishas to osaka i dont understand inglish to much and in spanish is not this part on video
in the book, when sayuri moved into hatsumomo's room, she stole her diary not handkerchief. sayuri outsmarted her & took it back. there was no fire & sayuri had a danna. however he was arrested & had no power out of jail, so nobu saved sayuri w/ the job making parachutes. also, nobu gave her the rock to give back when he became her danna & asked her to entertain the JAPANESE financer (aka the american). the movie is not the same as the book really, but i still like it :)
a danna is a faithful patron of a geisha that will buy her jewels, makeup, kimonos, gifts in general, etc. in the hopes that she'll marry him or become his mistress.
You see that shot of Hatsumomo's eyes through the fire and you think (1) yeah, she's nuts, but then (2) you know she must be thinking, with all of her glamour and promise as a geisha and her ability to actually combat Sayuri, this is not how she envisioned her life turning out. She gave up her own personal happiness to be a geisha, and, in her mind, this is not the ending she deserves.
I hate that too, but its not definite of what became of her, Sayrui only "imagine" this, n then there was talk of one guy sayin he saw her in a prostitue district, but when Sayuri went to go check it out , Hatsumoho was no where 2 be found... I guess i kinda ruined it 2 in anotha way sorry dude...
they throw her out, and she has no place to live not sure if she could go to another geisha house, or would end up in the pleasure district as a prostitute.
I love Hatsumomo. I could cry when she turns back to look at Sayuri's face when she leaves. The music goes higher and it's so sad.
They are nearly the same. When Sayuri cries at the end of the film to Mameha, she says she wants a life that owns her. And that is all Hatsumomo wants too.
Not sure why but it makes her look quite lost and demonic really doesn't it? She looks much more sinister than if she had her hair up. Anyway there was a rumour mentioned briefly in the book that she was thrown out of the okiya and turned to prostitution...or she drank herself to death.
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no, there are no more geisha's but there are a lot of sex makers and people such as "porn stars" in japan... a lot of them too~ much of them earn money through the internet by posting a lot of videos of their sex and making people pay to watch them~ there are girls as young as only 12 doing that~
It was WWII. So yes. America was part of the Allies and Japan a part of the Axis. But I'm pretty sure this was after the atomic bombs, so Japan would have already surrendered. And so America made military bases there.
I could be her...now I am geisha to this house. I could be her..Where we so different? She loved once... she hoped once...I might be looking into my own future.Until the real future came falling from the air...
Danae7991 2 days ago
Woooaaaah, what the hell happened to Japan!? D8
1Animechic1 3 days ago
chairman is the guy from inception
utopia752 2 weeks ago
Hatsumomo, that beautiful, crazy bitch.
ChibiPawszz 2 months ago 2
Forget Hatsumomo.
The chairman is so hot!
:D!
NiKKiBSEXCii 7 months ago
What is the name of this beautiful song about Kyoto at 0:53 ?
Ladymariastella 10 months ago
I think if she didn't take advantage of her position then she wouldn't be hated,etc. But I can see what you mean
angieischina 11 months ago
Supposedly, I was going to finish the book for this speech I needed for school. I was halfway through and I remember that Koichi really had a wife and I think he was a chef or something..? He wasn't mentioned after that scene. I really pity Hatsumomo. :( She's been living a sad life.
hyuuganatsume4ever 1 year ago
The chairman is my favorite :)
GermanMickey 1 year ago 4
in the book, do we ever find out what happened to koichi & hatsumomo? i can't remember! i mean, i know hatsumomo became a prostitute afterwards but didn't she really love koichi, that guy she slept with? why didn't they ever try running away together or something?
ThorXinXParis 1 year ago
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I think i remember Koichi having a wife or something and he just decided to leave her.
mikayladg1 1 year ago
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I think i remember Koichi having a wife or something and he just decided to leave hatusmono
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hatsumomo~ Her react in my opinion is not only she pissed off, but also i feel like that was the only way she could escape form that life. The life was covered with upset, jealous and nothing to lose. She burned the house, at the same time, she burned her life too.
Tititan155 1 year ago
hatsumomo~ Her react in my opinion is not only she pissed off, but also i feel like that was the only way she could escape form that life. The life was covered with upset, jealous and nothing to lose. She burned the house, at the same time, she burned her life too.
Tititan155 1 year ago
dont feel sorry for hatsumomo...yea i guess, she never wanted to be a geisha maybe, but look at where sayuri came from...they think of it as destiny. hatsumomo could have bounced out anytime she felt like it
ladyat0mic 1 year ago
And so The Grudge was born....oh wait, wrong movie :P
itskool 1 year ago 4
OH this is during WW2
zetsu12345678910 1 year ago
can someone explain to me this part here? so who was invading who? i read the book but i forget this part
ocean1111diaries 1 year ago
@ocean1111diaries this was during world war 2 when Hitler was in control of Germany and America helped the Jewish people the Japanese where on Hitlers side
melaina16 1 year ago
Yay! The baron comitted suicide!
melody32014 1 year ago 3
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that's good!
The baron was a pervert
sparta814 1 year ago
In the book she was kicked out for biting some guy at a party or something,& became a prostitute.
HEYYOUTHEREYOUUUU 1 year ago
were did hatsumomo go?
hapibth0pel3ss 2 years ago
In the book, they say that Hatsumomo went off and became a prostitute
maiakemi2 2 years ago
i think it was the okiya where Korin lives was burnt not the Nitta's.
ipanematwentytwo 2 years ago
it wasnt in the book because Hatsumomo was asked to leave the okiya for her behavior. Perhaps in the movie they only embellished on this but she did not bite her tounge as much as you see, nor was she secretive about her actions.
chelligan 2 years ago
i don't know eve if it wasn't in the book it was a nive touch ;)
neurogirl11 2 years ago
iim sooo confused about what jkust happenend
magicbunnygurl 2 years ago
mmmmm americans mmmmm :-P
paris06 2 years ago
its kinda funny u here theese names sayuri, hatsumomo and then pumpkin??
tbabygurl99 2 years ago 4
i know, i was reading the book an d it says that pumpkin's geisha name was Hatsuliyo, or somthing like that, but everyone kept calling her Pumpkin
TheChikHuSnipdU 2 years ago
oh ok. thanks!
allthecelebrockz 2 years ago
she was always bad but while time goes by she turn into a cruel woman and getting crazier.....she was jealous always with Chiyo because Chiyo was better woman and even a better geisha that she was in her youth.....but with the okiya´s burning was the point when she lost her mind and when she couldn´t take it anymore......
GeIsHaSaYurYJB4EvEr 2 years ago
thats different from the book though right?... i've only just finished reading it and i don't remember there being a fire when Hatsumono lost it...
rosetrepe 2 years ago
You are correct. There was no fire in the book.
ElementalAtHeart 2 years ago
when i saw hatsumono leaving the okiya i realized that she was so lost....she didn´t have no one in her life and no one to love that ´s why she was the way she was....Sayuri could go on with her life because she has someone to love but Hatsumono didn´t have no one...she was feeling so alone that´s why maybe she caused the okiya´s burning
GeIsHaSaYurYJB4EvEr 2 years ago
wasnt she already bad even before that?
allthecelebrockz 2 years ago
they couldn't have cut the poor man's arm just for a movie, right? but they could have found another actor. oh well. just another thing that is different from the book. what a surprise!
bbiancass 2 years ago 2
fuck hatsumomo is hot
PooKieMuSh 2 years ago
Nobu is a lot grouchier in the book
blackcherrysoda91 2 years ago 5
they left out some of the best parts from the book :(
iLY0X8 2 years ago 5
like wat parts did they leave from the book that were great?? i didnt even kno they had a book 4 this i need 2 get it and read it
tbabygurl99 2 years ago
what were they
?
xxxagentdoughnutxxx 2 years ago
one thing was that they left out the part where she finds out about her parents' death, and also when there is trouble between mameha and hatsumomo
iLY0X8 2 years ago
no they didn't.
PrancingCornmuffins 2 years ago
@iLY0X8 That was in a earlier bit....right after she falls off the roof.
OddSocksJenni 1 year ago
Japanese.
PrancingCornmuffins 2 years ago
is this the pearl harbor war
with japan and america
is americas there in the movie?
tiffanyiizhere 2 years ago
this is world war 2. america was neutral at first in world war 2, but when japan bombed pearl harbor(in hawaii) thats when america joined the war with the allies against japan, germany, and italy
splashdream14 2 years ago
Poor Nobu-san ._.
I think he felt in love with Sayuri, but he knows they're so chance.
frostkiss2 3 years ago 2
I know everybody's going to disagree, but i feel sad for Hatsumomo. I mean, if you look at it from her point of view, nobody actually wanted her around, she made money, that was it. Ya she had a temper, but you'd be pissed off too if sombody came along looking twice as better and easily loved more by everyone. But... burning down the okiya??? maybe a little excessive.
SniffingDaisies 3 years ago 92
I agree with you, If i were Hatsumomo I'd have a bad temper and pissed off every day too. Imagine having the only thing that's important to you stripped away from you, and then having everyone tell you that you are worthless and old.
doriosity 3 years ago 58
trust me, hastumomo's a lot easier to sympathize with in the movie than in the book. i sympathized w/ her in the book, but out of all my friends i had to be the only one :D
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AlejandroMochizuki 1 year ago
@SniffingDaisies she was feeling impuslive we do sometimes when we feel strong emotions. I'm sure she felt horrible after realizing her mistake
AlejandroMochizuki 1 year ago
@SniffingDaisies actually i agree lol:)
melaina16 1 year ago
@SniffingDaisies she was like that from the very beginning though, even when she first met her, before she even became a geisha. she got what she deserved.
lillypad3320 1 year ago
@SniffingDaisies I understand what you are saying, but if she had a better attitude people would like her more.
Marjie240 1 year ago
dude, I would have killed that woman. no joke.
iWoNtSaYiT 3 years ago 3
In the book, she doesnt even start a fire. She just gets kicked out of the house. :/
xxZombieKittyxx 3 years ago 3
In the book, Hatsumomo bit and viciously attacked her friend, a homosexual Kabuki for making her look like a fool by kissing Mameha. As a result, Mother kicked her out of the Okiya and she was banned from Gion permanently.
Rumors speculated that Hatsumomo was living in the Miyagawa-Cho district as a prostitute(the same district that Satsu was sold to). However, it was implied she was successful in drinking herself to death with too much sake intake.
ladyfire44 3 years ago 6
did hatsumomo die in the fire?
WarPlay3 3 years ago
forget my last comment, i didnt watch the full video before posting, sorry.
WarPlay3 3 years ago
No, she got kicked out though for starting it.
SarahLee1 3 years ago
no, but, i think mother said that hatsumomo did prostitution and died by alchohal poisoning...
Gaaraissomineforever 3 years ago
no she walked out of the house and didnt return
16mangos 3 years ago
Even though Hatsumomo was evil.... I still feel bad for her, she lost love...that is sad..
Sabikagei 3 years ago 6
I don't really think she was evil. I think she was just hardened by the lives that geisha held back then. I mean, she's worked her entire life to become a geisha and then Sayuri kind of waltzes in and slowly undoes it, eventually taking the oikiya from Hatsumomo.
TTMABKenz 3 years ago 2
Saiyuri didnt just take the okiya from her though, when she was young, she figured out that she was with a man, she never saw him again, losing him. Its sad..
Sabikagei 3 years ago
yea i know...all of that really hardened her along with the cruel life that she lived before Chiyo even came to Kyoto.
TTMABKenz 3 years ago
Yeah...she wasnt evil and that music when she was sitting in the fire made it even sadder...I wonder what the person singing the song was saying?
Sabikagei 3 years ago
Oh yeah, that General man, did Hotsumomo do him and the Baron too? She seems to know them very well.
Nikela1986 3 years ago
It doesn't say. Geisha entertain many men, so it is possible for them to know each other well.
TTMABKenz 3 years ago
I think in the movie, they made General Tottori, Hatsumomo's danna, when he was really Sayuri's in th ebook
ladyfire44 3 years ago 3
She's angry because she's jealous of Sayuri
intherainxx 3 years ago
0:37 until 0:51 = Amazing.
The look she gives at 1:15 sends shivers down my spine everytime.
ggfanjase 3 years ago
why is Hotsummomo angry??
StarOfRaven 3 years ago
because she is jealous of sayuri, that she has everything now
amora101 3 years ago 3
Wow! I love this scene, it made me cry. I know Hatsumomo is cruel but deep down she is bitter with jealousy. But there is no hope left for her, so she simply resigns. It is sad how Sayuri releases that they are acually very similar, and says she could be looking into her own future. The singing music was haunting, this is powerful scene.
intherainxx 3 years ago 2
What a BITCH! I wish she could have burned in the fire like the witch she is!
Hard2beprecious 3 years ago
no...that would be mother or Mrs. Nitta. she runs the oikiya. then the other woman is granny, whom is Mrs. Nitta's mother.
TTMABKenz 3 years ago
Could she adopt both girls if she wanted to?
Nikela1986 3 years ago
no. only one girl can inherit the oikiya. I'm not really sure as to why though...
TTMABKenz 3 years ago
No not that lady, I'm talking about he woman that chose Chiyo and not her sister remember when the girls was brought there and she chose between them?
Nikela1986 3 years ago
Oh her...it wasn't adopting them. It was buying them. She bought girls that she thought would be pretty enough to become geisha or at least to work as slaves. At the time, she probably only wanted one more girl so she chose Chiyo. In the book it describe's Chiyo's sister as being rather unattractive, which is probably why she ended up as a prostitute.
TTMABKenz 3 years ago
Did that Koichi dude Hotsummomo's boyfriend, does he really been giving her money or does Hotsummomo really be giving men more than just dances?
Nikela1986 3 years ago
We don't realy know...it doesn't say in the book. They were just lovers. For once things between her and a man werent about money. It was just about love and the two of them giving in to it. Yes, she was definitely giving him more than just dances, but chances are he wasnt paying her for the private time that they spent together.
TTMABKenz 3 years ago
All the women that lived in that okyia were not related by blood. Granny adopted Mother, Auntie was brought to the okyia to learn to become Geisha. She did not do well, she, according to the book, was too ugly and then granny broke Auntie's hip during a beating and it never healed right.
LadyReginaSmiles 2 years ago
In the book, Hatsummomo read sayuri's diary. In the movie, she noticed the initials on the hankerchief and made an educated guess. Hatsummomo is very smart and she guessed that was who they would go to. she stalked them and asked around. she figured it out by looking at who Mameha and Sayuri were entertaining frequently.
TTMABKenz 3 years ago 3
Why doesn't she just worry about Pumpkin getting bid for instead of spreading rumors about Chiyo sleeping with sailors?
Nikela1986 3 years ago 2
Because, although they don't really portray this in the movie, Pumpkin isn't an amazing geisha. She doesn't have anything special about her like Sayuri has her eyes. She also isn't good in dance or playing the shamiisen. Also, by now, Pumpkin is a full fledged geisha, meaning she's already has her mizuage. Oh, and Hatsummomo wants to ruin sayuri's career. she figures as soon as she does that, she can focuss on Pumpkin getting adopted by the Nitta.
TTMABKenz 3 years ago
Sorry about the questions. I'm just trying to understand this movie.
Is Ms. Nitta and that other lady, sitting beside her adopted sisters?
Nikela1986 3 years ago
huh? sorry, can you rephrase that? Oh and no problem! any questions u have I'll be happy to answer. if u hve a question on one of the other videos, feel free to message me!
TTMABKenz 3 years ago
Remember the part when Okasan was waiting for the bidding for Sayuri, You seen that lady beside her saying unbelievable about how much money was bid for her. Is that her sister?
Nikela1986 3 years ago
Did Hotsummomo owe them allot of money for what she did to Chiyo's kimonos and the okiya?
Nikela1986 3 years ago 4
I don't know...I read the book and i don't recall a fire. Then again, my memory might have failed me. Surely, though, you can bet that she did have a great debt.
TTMABKenz 3 years ago
Now that Chiyo is that woman's daughter, do they have to leave?
Nikela1986 3 years ago
Not in the book...in the book Hatsummomo just had to respect Sayuri. Pumpkin too. Read the book though...it is so good!
TTMABKenz 3 years ago
How did Hotsummomo know about her crush on the Chairman and the hankerchief?
Nikela1986 3 years ago
How did Hotsummomo know about the men that Nameha and Sayuri were going to see to want to bid for her?
Nikela1986 3 years ago
i like both the book and the adaptation. very rich in both culture and history... and all aspects of plot.
msangelic11 3 years ago 2
kool!! i want to read the book but i cant find it in the book store or libary!! lol am gonna ask my cousin cuz she has tons of books!! lol
NarutoUltimateSchool 3 years ago
right the difference between the book and the movie is TOO great for me... u see i perfered the book as it portrayed nobu as an opinionated amazing guy who had an aura that demanded respect. i loved that about him... here.. his just another man going goey eyed over a girl. also in the book i disliked chiyo as her blindness to reality and head full of fairytails made life almost difficult for her almost deminishing all she worked hard for!
kadramay1989 3 years ago
did he say "I love you" 4:50?
16mangos 3 years ago
nope,, he said " i will" and then " express your gratitude to nobu-san"
Angelfirex47 3 years ago 3
yh he did say "i love u" then "i just wanted you to know that"
donny13x 3 years ago
that's what I thought! lol :]
cornhoemama 3 years ago
the movie and the book are so different wtf
NachoNess3542 3 years ago
They changed so much from the book, it is almost like a different story. In the book she has a danna, and nobu is the one that offers her safety, and a lot of other things that really make the story so much better are forgotten.
brebean4 3 years ago 2
Geisha dont have a certain hairstyle. They can wear their hair how they want it after their Mizuage, when they become a fully fledged Geisha. If you read the book, Sayuri refers to wearing several different hairstyles. Only the apprentices have to wear their hair in a certain style; 'momoware' the 'Split Peach'
JaneyS1993 3 years ago 2
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in the very begining, i thought this might be a great movie. but now, it seems like nothing special. it seems like a porn movie rather than anything so call artistic. ziyi english is OMG. she is pretty, but, hey brush up ur language gal.
NgYiehCin 3 years ago
War! What is it good for?
LadyReginaSmiles 3 years ago 8
the book is much better...
Naattmmir 3 years ago 2
I dnt get this movie..
forevermusic6929 3 years ago
Aww... people are saying bad things about Gongli or Hatsumomo. But I think if people hated her character, Gongli did some good acting as the villain ^^
RoxieMage 3 years ago 3
manga de forros y ortibas
ambalito 3 years ago
Waaah this is wonderful!!!
^_^
NanaSupergirl 3 years ago 2
hello hello eco........is some one there why they take the geishas to osaka i dont understand inglish to much and in spanish is not this part on video
ambalito 3 years ago
hatsumomo's pwetty...too bad she's the bad huy
boonammo 3 years ago
in the book, when sayuri moved into hatsumomo's room, she stole her diary not handkerchief. sayuri outsmarted her & took it back. there was no fire & sayuri had a danna. however he was arrested & had no power out of jail, so nobu saved sayuri w/ the job making parachutes. also, nobu gave her the rock to give back when he became her danna & asked her to entertain the JAPANESE financer (aka the american). the movie is not the same as the book really, but i still like it :)
megster266 3 years ago 6
What is a danna? Is it a husband?
vvelvettearss 3 years ago
a danna is a faithful patron of a geisha that will buy her jewels, makeup, kimonos, gifts in general, etc. in the hopes that she'll marry him or become his mistress.
megster266 3 years ago
Corrr I could do with a danna ;D thankyou for the explaination <3
vvelvettearss 3 years ago
People also often refer to their husband as "danna" or someone else's husband as "danna-san" but for a geisha it is as you said.
AnonaNicole 3 years ago
It is a man who pays all your expenses as a geisha, like the baron was to mameha
ezrebet 3 years ago
yeah.,....i prefer the book,too...but i still love the movie..
awanpadana 3 years ago 4
mention chairman and away she goes
rea5sass 3 years ago 2
lmao
boonammo 3 years ago
yeAh....
awanpadana 3 years ago
why they take the geishas to osaka?
ambalito 3 years ago
You see that shot of Hatsumomo's eyes through the fire and you think (1) yeah, she's nuts, but then (2) you know she must be thinking, with all of her glamour and promise as a geisha and her ability to actually combat Sayuri, this is not how she envisioned her life turning out. She gave up her own personal happiness to be a geisha, and, in her mind, this is not the ending she deserves.
KekoaOnorati 3 years ago 10
gong li is also the empress in curse of the golden flower - just fyi
Nilieus 3 years ago
Hatsumomo i great !
ambera15 3 years ago
whats the song called when hahtsumahmah goes away ? it's beautiful !
MattyAlmighty1987 3 years ago
Hahtsumahmah is truley and for surely INSANE!!!
Tman2295 3 years ago 2
it's hatsumomo
kaulitza666 3 years ago 2
blue eyed , nice
ELEVENtimesELEVEN 3 years ago 2
Huh??? i dont get it. Why were there soldiers?? Why did the geisha have to go to osaka??
HanaSakeme 3 years ago
WWII
annarntr 3 years ago 2
because of world war 2
xoxMixedBeautyxox 3 years ago
hatsumomo Also played in Hero didn't she :O
She's realy pretty Bitch here :P
boebiej 3 years ago 3
no, gong li (hatsumomo) didn't play in hero
but zhang ziyi (sayuri) did
annenas72 3 years ago
No. Gong Li did not play in Hero. The older woman in that movie was Maggie Cheung. Ziyi Zhang who plays Sayuri in this movie did play in Hero.
Gong Li also plays in "The Curse Of The Golden Flower", and "Raise The Red Lantern." Both excellent movies.
LadyReginaSmiles 3 years ago
I like this movie~
Emopink13 3 years ago 3
its abit different from e book huh?
i nver see nobu san get angry b4..lol
mandIIchanlovluv 3 years ago
thanks for ruining the book for me lol i haven't gotten to that part yet lol
but it's all good.
shiroisan87 3 years ago
I hate that too, but its not definite of what became of her, Sayrui only "imagine" this, n then there was talk of one guy sayin he saw her in a prostitue district, but when Sayuri went to go check it out , Hatsumoho was no where 2 be found... I guess i kinda ruined it 2 in anotha way sorry dude...
ALFJONES87 3 years ago 3
i'm at that part now.
shiroisan87 3 years ago
hatsumomo is still really pretty...even if she is a bitch:P
VampireMaiden72 3 years ago 11
what happens to hatsumomo after the the fire? does anyone know?
aryana77 3 years ago 2
they throw her out, and she has no place to live not sure if she could go to another geisha house, or would end up in the pleasure district as a prostitute.
iggymom 3 years ago 2
Hatsu's hair reminds me of Amy Winehouse's...nasty!
RedFlower26 3 years ago 3
correct me if i'm wrong but i'm pretty sure in the book that scene with the fire never happened.
Ic3yFr3Sh777 3 years ago 5
how do they get out of the fire?
wellabecky 3 years ago
had anyone of you read the book ? t seems not to be so , because if you had read them you`d know what hatsumomo feels ..
tesaXspodzai 3 years ago
i wish hatsumomo's hair caught on fire when breaking those lanps. lol kinda like the stewart of gonder in lord of the rings lol
shiroisan87 3 years ago
This is one of my favorite movies.
Sayuri is so gorgeous.
MarnyxSann 3 years ago 3
I love Hatsumomo. I could cry when she turns back to look at Sayuri's face when she leaves. The music goes higher and it's so sad.
They are nearly the same. When Sayuri cries at the end of the film to Mameha, she says she wants a life that owns her. And that is all Hatsumomo wants too.
Sad. ♥
Gh3tt0G4ng5t4z 3 years ago 8
i love the music when hatsumomo is like sitting around the fire. its perfect for the scene.
reiXmiyukiXmikuru 3 years ago
Why does Hatsumomo (or however you spell it)always wear her hair all down and looking like a prostitute? Just wondering.
Eirthbndr 3 years ago
idk but she does, lol.
thisissme 3 years ago
well..i think she is..bc of her 'b/f' XP
mimi13089 3 years ago
Not sure why but it makes her look quite lost and demonic really doesn't it? She looks much more sinister than if she had her hair up. Anyway there was a rumour mentioned briefly in the book that she was thrown out of the okiya and turned to prostitution...or she drank herself to death.
ChristineF 3 years ago 4
she wears her hair down as a symbol of her rebellion and disregard for the rules.
luv4georgeharrison 3 years ago
WHATS A BITCH i would of killed her by now!!!
coolcat000me 3 years ago 3
are there still geishas in japan now? like present day, cus this was 50 somthing years ago.
ajcr250 3 years ago 2
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no, there are no more geisha's but there are a lot of sex makers and people such as "porn stars" in japan... a lot of them too~ much of them earn money through the internet by posting a lot of videos of their sex and making people pay to watch them~ there are girls as young as only 12 doing that~
destinyheart07 3 years ago
wrong yes there are, there are just much much much less and they mostly live or all live in kyoto
buTTTTTTer 3 years ago
there are still geisha's in japan but it is a dying art but from what i remember they all live in kyoto.
dustbunny 3 years ago
the war was between japan and america at that time??
candylopios 3 years ago
It was WWII. So yes. America was part of the Allies and Japan a part of the Axis. But I'm pretty sure this was after the atomic bombs, so Japan would have already surrendered. And so America made military bases there.
IchibanHai 3 years ago 4