ShockAweNow is Right - Christians have more benefits

[AstroMen2911]

Christian get to fuck up and ask forgiveness. Pagans usually follow the Wiccan Rede which requires alot of effort to maintain.

[poseidonthedark]

wod, i'm proud of you for sticking with your faith, o matter what those people tell you, i'm there for you brotha!

[druidreed]

well i agree with you on most of your points but now christmas is a national holyday even athests practice it sooooo its not exactly a christian exclusive holyday.

[wiccanwitch22]

there are no benefits to any religeon. you love your god, gods and/or goddesses, and they love you in return. but if you believe you will go to hell for doing something wrong, i just dont think thats right.

[shockawenow]

Jesus Christ is a historical person that said things that any rational intelligent person would take notice of. When a person ignores such a famous person of history such as Christ, the most famous person in the world and disregards even looking into what He said, What He taught and what the people around Him said about Him...I see bias in that person. Reality dictates you must investigate the person of Christ first and work outward from there. If not there is bias always.

[fiacharrey]

I did an entire video in response to your question. Did you even watch it?

[taliesin939939]

anyone who doubts that christianity is based in paganism... just type "christianity and paganism" into the youtube search box.

[taliesin939939]

christianity is a pagan religion. look at my video response above , the one that says taliesin. dats me. or just type "christianity and paganism" into the youtube search box. or just look it up in an encyclopedia. preferably...watch my video response above.

[AxiomofDiscord]

This is so true and pathetic. Yet my pride stays unwavering. I am what I am and I stay strong, proud, and with courage proclaim that in Kaos's name let Chaos reign.

I am a proud pagan and do not see that changing.

Despite the lack of benefits.

ATF

[taliesin939939]

christianity is a pagan religion.

[AxiomofDiscord]

What relevance does this comment have to mine. What does it change. Why did you say it. It definitely seems to be biased to some agenda. Prove me wrong or right. Please clarify the purpose of you typing these words. Jesus has parallels with sun Gods as you have said in a message to me. I have heard all this before. It is a separate religion and being that it is Abrahamic it is not Pagan. Pagan and Pagan roots are two different things. I could go on but I am running out of space.

ATF

[Shirotora1979]

There ya go again fox. taking a number of my points from me. :P Actually though you are right....as my wife says there is only so many ways to honor a Deity so there will always be overlap. Heck I know modern pagan practices taken from Christianity so does that make them a Chrisitan faith?

[AxiomofDiscord]

sorry ... Tiger but take heart. For a few more days I got limited access to the net so you ll get more oppurtunities to get the jump on me and get the points out there first. To the future one of dialogue and purpose my friend.

ATF

[Bhilithinn]

Very good response, and this one got a good laugh out of me.

I had considered posting some sort of a response (whether a video or a comment) to shockawenow. But I figured I didn't really want to waste my time giving a thoughtful response to a video that was never meant to encourage honest dialogue in the first place.

[fiacharrey]

Yeah, that's pretty much how I feel. That's why I usually ignore Shock. But, in this case, I amused myself too much with the idea to pass it up. :)

[destructicon500]

I can see Shockawenow being all smug that he "won," but what he doesn't realize is that you pagans (not meant as condescending) are responding with cynicism - Western society is built around Christianity, so naturally Christianity benefits the most.

[floydianworld]

"No one's gonna take your children away just because you're a Christian"

What happened in Waco?

What happened at FLDS Texas?

I think you'll find your completely wrong.

[fiacharrey]

Those occurrences troubled me when they happened, and I have argued on the side of the FLDS. We have a common interest as minority faiths. I thought about mentioning them, but that would have been too much of a tangent. I think the argument, though, is that children were taken away not because of what the parents believed, but because of what they (allegedly) did. It does set a troubling precedent, though, as the FLDS case was based completely on a pretext.  (I don't know much about Waco.)

[Branan001]

you really have no idea do u those are isolated they do it 2 pagans all the time and i mean ALL THE TIME theres no exception it just happens those u speak of are 2 incidences they are not the norm as they are for pagan parents

[floydianworld]

No they don't what you're saying is totally ridiculous and without foundation. Name one time the State itself removed children from the custody of pagan parents.

[Branan001]

hmmmm ya your right theres no such thing as religious bias

[floydianworld]

The "environmentalist" green movement (climate change etc.), feminism and socialist are all essentially manifestations of matriarchal paganism.

[fiacharrey]

I don't think one came from the other, but they certainly do support one another and often merge together.

[HergerSeamas]

LOL.. he did check out your video!.. I realize now fiacharrey that you are exactly correct about shock. He's a little to Dogmatic and close minded to have any kind of dialogue with. I knew he was bad.. I didn't realize he was THAT lost into his Dogma!

[shockawenow]

hey why don't you post this to the pagan vid? I didn't see it btw

[fiacharrey]

I tried before, and I was blocked. I might try again later if I get around to it.

[fiacharrey]

Heh. I got around to it faster than I thought. :) Got me unblocked now?

[fiacharrey]

I am still blocked, or you still need to approve the vids, or something. BTW, please stop spamming me with your vids. That's why I blocked you in the first place. I should have just asked you to stop last time, but I'm asking now. I've un-blocked you, but I don't need two vids a day. If you want to send one specifically to me, because there is a reason I'd want to watch and maybe respond, cool, but please take me off of whatever distribution list you have going. Thanks.

[shockawenow]

Ah my friend. Spoken like a true non-christian. Biased and errored.

[fiacharrey]

Yep, that's us non-Christians to a T. Every last one of us.

[Branan001]

ya what do we know right using our minds and all thinking for our selfs how dare we how dare we look for the place we belong we should just follow the Christian gods or sorry the Second Council of Nicea says theres only one Christian god

[shockawenow]

Actually you are in error. Pagans,Wiccans,Atheists and Christians all competed and were allowed to list what is so good about their religions. The numbers clearly show the Christians won the contest. The #2 runner ups were Pagans with Atheists 3rd and Wiccans last. Based on what the youtube community typed..not me. So youtube users chose Christianity as being the best faith. Based on mathmatics, logic and facts.

[fiacharrey]

And I just agreed with you. Heck, I just ADDED about a dozen benefits to Christianity!

[shockawenow]

You should do a new one saying the actual facts though brother. The youtube users themselves typed in the benefits..I'm just the messenger of the numbers.. Thanks for not shooting the messenger. You should accurately say "The youtube community" overwhelmingly said Christianity has more benefits as that is more honest and accurate.

[HergerSeamas]

brother?

[fiacharrey]

Wow... YOU criticizing someone's honesty? That's amusing. And, I wouldn't go there is I were you. Glass houses, and all that.

This was a response to your one video alone, though. And, again, I agree with you and "the YouTube Community" that Christians have a LOT more benefits.

Also, of course there would be more Christian responses. Is there any doubt that Christians outnumber us by 100 to 1? Ah, there is another benefit you can chalk up: Christians have the numbers.

[HergerSeamas]

Your point is..well, pointless. These less than scientific "polls" are meaningless and frankly it says alot about your maturity and intellectual level. I'd say..Kindergarten..yep. Nice :D

[AxiomofDiscord]

Do you honestly think that you can conduct an accurate contest even one so absurd as this one.

Where are you results exactly shock so that I can see them and judge them myself. I do not like taking others words especially the words of the deceitful and manipulative.

[taliesin939939]

look it up in an encyclopedia. thats all. and whatever you find, beleive whatever the hell you want. dont take my word on anything. and if what you find is different, then im wrong, right? go ahead.

[taliesin939939]

decietful and manipulative? hmm... no. look it up. go to an encyclopedia, or just type "christianity and paganism"

[AxiomofDiscord]

I thought you had no agenda why do you have to keep harping on this despite what I am talking about. Do you read what I am saying. How is the relationship between Christianity and other Religions got anything to do to redefine it and or make Shock any less of an ass hat. Can you please get off my case and stop telling me to read and watch all this stuff I already know.

ATF

[k88pfaith]

god is only judge

[HergerSeamas]

This one makes me smile. :D

[fiacharrey]

Thanks for watching it. Yeah, people who don't actually watch it might get the wrong idea. :)

[Branan001]

i have to agree my friend those are cool benefits