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  • @snooker8th i dont think that chemtrails are all hoax!

    I saw the video from canada and yes its fact even in usa and hawai!!

    BUT, if everybody who saw an airplane with contrails shout out "CHEMTRAILER" its like the little boy who shouts ever and ever "Fire" nobody listen to him if its really burns. The Problem is that Greenpeace and other environmentalist comment chemtrails as sience fiction (see Wikipedia) so we can only save the facts with soil analyses not with nice airplane videos

  • PEOPLE!! You are all hysterical every Airplane is a chemtrailer or what?? check Wikipedia about contrail or Wiki is already infiltrated? you will found the information that its possible to see a contrail more then 15 hours. I cant belive that any comercial airline take there payload to spray something and no passenger recognizes whats going on.

  • @MultiHalfpipe they are dumping barium, alumina and strontium every day in Australia like this .. this is confirmed in toxicology tests, leaked report etc.

    we never had this garbage prior to 2008 .. WAKE UP

  • That's quite the dump in one flyby.... ugly shit.

  • Mate if ya ever been in the Northern Hemisphere, chemtrails are bloody everywhere! Like a freaken chess board! Everyday! I'd like to funnel this shit down the C***s throats who let this shit happen here in Oz!

  • The only "chemtards"  these days, are the people denying this stuff.

  • Yeah what the hell is all this about???? I see them over Canberra. One day the sky was absolutely covered in them and they stayed for a long time. I often see them now spraying between Canberra and Sydney. WHAT is this???????

  • @SuperJane99 a late reply to a comment you left 4 months ago: Are you still getting planes leaving trails in ACT? I've noticed when abc24 talks to Canberra's political correspondent, the backdrop is heavy with glowing chemtrail clouds. And another backdrop is blue wth fluro pink spray clouds. People are more inclined to dismiss things seen on tv as normal.

  • hahahaha oh yeh bro there like fully pumpin that shit out omfg dirty mother fuckers...you absolute goose. because it would be that easy to convert a qantas passenger airliner (looks like a 767?) into a "chemtrail aircraft". i laugh at your stupidity. funny thing is you can actually clearly see the CONTRAIL appearing from the twin engines...

  • your so stupid im laughing my ass off your obviously stupid when it comes to aviation and the effects a hot jet engine has on cold air ...moron and also its funny how this theory always in the past only spoke about unmarked aircraft (stupid because most aircraft are unmarked on the bottom and you cant see it from over a mile up) but now your including commuter airliners ......the bullshit theory is being adapted in order to make more sense to those too stupid to know better lol

  • @TheBabie113 U got it... Why have this "poison" in the jet fuel when I'm sure there could be a way to dump it without it being seen in the sky for an hour. You see contrails with ALL jet aircraft at high altitude. If its poison, why cant we see it at low altitude? And what's that cloud around a fighter jet at high speed, is that poison too?

  • Yer well u suckd offa horse

  • The reason why that plane did that it was dumping fuel (a casa regulation for any airliner, that discovers a problem with their aircraft and has to land at any airport that is two hours away maximum) That plane had to do an emergency landing at Perth due to a fault in the electrics, because that 747 had enough fuel to fly for 19 hours straight it had to dump the fuel to land safetly. If it had landed with a full fuel tank the plane would have broken up and killed everyone when it landed

  • @andrewbroscircus They sure do dump lots of fuel these days then, I see it all day long they must be dumping millions of gallons of fuel just here in my state. Im glad fuel costs are apparently so irrelevant for the airlines.

  • @andrewbroscircus Plz tell us you're joking... It's not a 747, maybe a B767 or A330 and it's not dumping fuel for an em landing. If you're correct, then there's planes dumping fuel and prepping for a crash all day, everyday over San Diego. If you're gonna make up lame stories, make it a lil more believable plz. I've seen planes with contrails flying alongside us, close enough to see what airline. All them were dumping fuel at 35K feet over the Atlantic I guess. Thx for the humor, keep it up yall

  • Um, it's a plane.

  • A1mint go suck ure freemason brothers diks u stupid fuk

  • Completely normal contrail. You can clearly see a distance from the engines to the start of the trail. It takes that long for ice crystals to form.

    All people are doing is simply blindly buying into this chemtrail doctrine belief system without asking any questions at all. People are gullible. Impressionable.

    Where are your critical thinking skills people?

    THINK people THINK.

    THINK McFly THINK !

  • Wow more folks on this page who have recived there education from YOU TUBE University with a major in Beleive what the video tells you.

    This just in world to end in 2013, crap the other movie was wrong. OH NO.

    Come to a theater near you 2013 The real end.

  • @raylove737 well you sit behind your keyboard also on YOUTUBE where you got you P.H.D in Trolling

    if you only wish to put others down instead of adding any kind of infomation for or against the subject then sir you are the idiot

  • simple proof for you skeptics watch?v=FmZucED2kc8&feature=re­lated

  • @rhemity I have an answer for that!

    watch?v=TteSCwh3sIs

  • nice vid bro keep it up thy spray people in the cities like bugs to lower there immune system.The plague is comming!!!

  • "filthy mother fuckers" i love it

  • This is driving me mad. These are just ice crystals that build in the -40C air. Yes the airplane pollutes. But just like a normal car does. If your car drives in -40C, you will see white "smoke" as well and the ants will tell you you are producing a chem trail... Nonsense. If those 300 people in the plane would all take a car, the pollution would be even higher.

  • @ahiemstra There are videos out there that even the news weather man says they are spraying "chaff" filled with aluminum and other particles. it showed up on his radar. BUT I do agree that there are a lot of just normal contrails but man...... here in utah it is 100 degrees today and there are TONS of chemtrails covering our skys. If it is 100 on the ground how can it be -40 up there? God bless you brother.

  • These pilots are fucking pieces of shit. They will sell their own mothers if the price is right.

  • It blows my mind that people have been lulled into believing this is 'normal'. We all grew up with blue skies, planes and no chemtrails, so why, all of a sudden, are these 'persistent contrails' everywhere, in such abundance?

  • @AIexKidd actually they have been showing up since world war 2. Look up Memphis Belle WWII Bomber Contrails - 1944 on youtube. Contrails have been showing up ever since planes have been flying.

  • @WhiteGangster400 I am talking about what is known as 'chemtrails' or 'persistent contrails'. These are not to be confused with normal contrails. Contrails have been showing up ever since planes have been flying, chemtrails have not. Can you honestly not tell the difference between the two?

  • @WhiteGangster400 Do a quick google image search of chemtrails. Look at how they criss cross each other in the sky, not only parallel but perpendicular to one another. Do you really believe that contrails could linger in the sky long enough to form intersecting flight paths?

  • @AIexKidd Do a quick brain chechk for me. Yea contrails will cross and shit like you said. Not all air traffic land at different airports nor do they fly in all random directions. And yes i know contrails can linger all day. Clouds linger all day, what are they made of?

  • @WhiteGangster400 Nice spelling. Um, who needs the brain check, again? I never said nor alluded to the fact that not all air traffic land at the same airports or fly in 'all random directions'. What do you think an air traffic controller does for a living? And no, contrails do not linger all day. You 'know' that just as your ancestors 'knew' that the earth was flat.

  • @WhiteGangster400 Have you seen any photos of 'persistent contrails' from the 80's and 90's? Why didn't contrails 'linger' and become clouds in decades past? Has the atmosphere drastically changed since then? Have the laws of physics drastically changed since then? Or are you just brainwashed?

  • @AIexKidd you sound a little crazy. Mabey they got new engines that burn cleaner. Have you ever seen an old B-52 take off? Those bitches make huge smoke storms like crazy. Even if the gov was trying to pour chemicals on us, wouldn't we all be dieing and shit? Oh wait, those chemicals are getting so far in your head that you think they're spraying shit on us!

  • @WhiteGangster400 I sound a little crazy? Is that because I don't *believe* in an unscientific theory about 'persistent contrails'? Why can't you answer my questions? Brain failing?

  • @WhiteGangster400

    "Even if the gov was trying to pour chemicals on us, wouldn't we all be dieing and shit?"

    So you are you conceding that we are being sprayed? I never alluded to *what* was being sprayed, I never said *chemicals* were being sprayed, at all. You avoid addressing my questions and are resorting to theories to try and dismiss the facts, not I.

  • @AIexKidd ok grammer nazi

  • @WhiteGangster400 Stay in school.

  • @AIexKidd too bad it's summer

  • @AIexKidd Actually there are a heap of books on clouds containing persistant contrails dating back as far as the 40's,stop looking at information from the same people witht eh same aganda,that is not research that is simply looking for information to agree with what you "think" they are.

  • @riceburnagtv Duuude, you're so lost....do you think the pilots can choose not to do it, even though they know they are spraying their own families? They would at least loose a job, if not something bigger. So don't be so naive please. Do you remember the skies from 10-15-20 years ago? Lost your memory? Well, some people haven't...you gotta do your homework man...research the subject if you're already interested.

  • @2trancentral So you are saying in this day and age of digital media that not one pilot who is knowingly "spraying" chemicals on their family has the means to make a video or publicly denounce whats going on?out of the THOUSANDS of pilots world wide from every corner of the world? I do remember the skies, I remember seeing contrails, I was always amazed by them. I also know that there is 300% more aircraft flying these days too,alot higher then before.U guys took too many drugs and forgot!

  • @riceburnagtv they are dumping barium, alumina and strontium every day in Australia like this .. this is confirmed in toxicology tests, leaked report etc.

    we never had this garbage prior to 2008 .. WAKE UP

  • @snooker8th Ha 2008? Geeze you chemtards can never seem to agree on anything! Others say 2001,1993. Why dont you guys all get together and at least get your "facts" straight? Can you link me to the results of these tests please, hopefully your not still looking at that video where the guy reads the test wrong? Also can you let me know how they linked the higher levels of Aluminum and barium to contrails and excluded industrial pollution and cars?Simple questions id like answered before believing

  • @AIexKidd its pretty simple. a contrail is condensed water, and the long lasting ones are ice particles. and they behave like the clouds around them.

    Do a spectroscopy on your next "chemtrail". it'll let you know what elements in there. significant amounts of unusual elements will indicate that they're dumping chemicals. if the spectroscopy returns negligible results, the chem trail is harmless or its just a contrail.

  • @JagermeisterDetox When did I say that chemtrails contained chemicals, or anything else for that matter? I have already made this point. Try reading the comment history.

  • @AIexKidd when why are you even bothered about them? its just water vapor. propeller aircraft release them, jet aircraft etc. its called a contrail.

    I ended up here by accident.

  • @JagermeisterDetox Don't piss down my back and tell me it's raining. Flight paths don't intersect at right-angles, within minutes of one another, forming giant X's and crosshatching in the sky. It's not "just water vapor". What you are describing is a contrail. The subject which is under discussion is chemtrails, not contrails. If you have no idea what a chemtrail is, and have never looked into it, then check out the documentary called "What in the World Are They Spraying?"

  • @AIexKidd don't sell me disinformation next time you make a point. honestly, these flight paths that crosshatch the sky aren't intersecting. maybe from a 2D view they do but in reality the ones that intersect are separated by quite a significant distance in height. I live in a rather cold part of the UK so contrails often last for hours. its quite common to see crosshatching. and my spectroscopy returns no abnormal chemical content. so they are just contrails.

  • @JagermeisterDetox "honestly, these flight paths that crosshatch the sky aren't intersecting. maybe from a 2D view they do but in reality the ones that intersect are separated by quite a significant distance in height…"

    Baseless assertions and vague conjecture. What were you saying about selling disinformation?

    "and my spectroscopy returns no abnormal chemical content. so they are just contrails."

    You are going around in circles. Once again, I never said anything about chemicals.

  • @JagermeisterDetox Type aircrap.org chemtrails4.jpg into Google Images. Busy flight path, huh?

  • @AIexKidd in every image I see the contrails appear to be at different heights. therefore the flight paths are not intersecting. you know what would be a nice piece of evidence? 2 photos of the same occurrence at different angles. Therefore parallax can be used to find their relative distances and settle this.

    you're making no sense. if they do not contain chemicals then they are merely contrails. therefore there is nothing to worry about. therefore the chem trail conspiracy is pointless.

  • @JagermeisterDetox "in every image I see the contrails appear to be at different heights."

    You said it yourself, "appear" to be at different heights.

    "therefore the flight paths are not intersecting."

    Amazing. Incredible deductive logic. You should be a detective!

  • @JagermeisterDetox "you're making no sense. if they do not contain chemicals then they are merely contrails."

    No, you are just a half-wit who cannot make sense of anything. I refer to them as "chemtrails" simply because that is what they are known as. I do not claim to know what chemicals, if any, are in ALL of them, or if they ALL do contain chemicals, although there are numerous reports of Barium and Strontium being detected in SOME of them. You make assumptions about ALL contrails? Ignorance.

  • @JagermeisterDetox "therefore there is nothing to worry about. therefore the chem trail conspiracy is pointless."

    Assumptions based on assumptions? Stupidity.

    *I am not aware of any contrails containing chemicals, therefore there is nothing to research about, therefore researching it is pointless.*

    Your ancestors were unaware that the Earth was round and decried 'worrying' about it. "Therefore the round Earth conspiracy is pointless."

    Try not to be a flat-Earther.

  • @AIexKidd the difference between the flat earth/round earth and contral/chemtrail thing is that there was evidence for a round earth. Like shadow lengths relative to distance at the same time being varied.

    There is no evidence for the contrails containing any chemicals. in fact, there's evidence pointing towards the opposite. Do a spectroscopy on your supposed chem-trails. They contain alot of oxygen, carbon and hydrogen. as I would expect. and normal and negligible levels of everything else.

  • @AIexKidd Just a stab in the dark here but it could possible have somthing to do with the 150% increase in air traffic over the last 20 years? mmmm naa thats too logical,it HAS to be the government spraying us,I mean it makes perfectly logical sense to spray somthing in the air in an uncontrolled manner effecting everyone somwehere and that these guys are just as happy about them effecting their own families too...Perfect sense!

  • @riceburnagtv An increase in air traffic does not account for crisscrossing "persistent contrails" which become a lasting haze. Flight paths do not crisscross in close succession, but I guess that is too logical for you.

  • @AIexKidd What??? Of course it does! If a plane can leave a contrail going one direction why cant another leave one going across its path? There are certain parts of every country where planes cross flight paths, not at the same height, thats your own lack of understanding. Thy do however fall to a height that allows them to persist. Funnily enough, just like clouds!

  • @riceburnagtv "Thy do however fall to a height that allows them to persist. Funnily enough, just like clouds!"

    Right. And would that be *after* identical 'contrails' form at different heights? So even with minimum vertical separation, the temperature is identical, therefore the persistence is the same, even with the different times? Some strange weather going on, must be all that weather modification… which isn't occurring… and doesn't exist… despite patents.

  • @AIexKidd Do you think a contrail will persist at exactly -40deg f ONLY? OR... perhaps contrails will persist BETWEEN the temperatures of -40 to -55f etc therefor planes can fly at different altitudes (dependant on direction they are required to do this) and the temps even though varying are still perfect to make contrails persist? The thing is this is only strange to YOU! Comes down to education really.

    There is a patent for a sky elevator too man, have you seen any of those around?

  • @riceburnagtv "Do you think a contrail will persist at exactly -40deg f ONLY?"

    Do you believe a chemtrail will ALWAYS persist in the exact same way, at both the top and bottom of minimum vertical separation? With identical thickness and duration of persistence? And do you make this assumption, universally? Regardless of weather and location? So regardless of weather and location, no two chemtrails have ever been sprayed within minimum vertical separation? And you claim to know this… how?

  • @AIexKidd WTF are you on about? When did I say they are all identical? It is impossible to tell from the ground and the fact that some persist,some dont,some spread out only proves that they vary depending on the conditions, infact it takes the right conditions for them to form in the first place..The rest of what you said is just dribble!

  • @riceburnagtv "OR... perhaps contrails will persist BETWEEN the temperatures of -40 to -55f etc therefor planes can fly at different altitudes (dependant on direction they are required to do this) and the temps even though varying are still perfect to make contrails persist?"

    And persist identically? With equal thickness and persistence? And, again, this is a universal explanation? There has never been one intersecting chemtrail, and never will be? Because… you say so? You claim to know so?

  • @riceburnagtv "The thing is this is only strange to YOU!"

    It is only strange to me? I thought there were thousands from around the world, and that it is only on the increase?

    "Comes down to education really."

    Education ≠ Intelligence. Your making assumptions about education proves only one thing: that you are unintelligent, although I can't rule out the possibility that you are uneducated, too…

    Education memorizes someone else's answers whereas intelligence asks questions and investigates.

  • @AIexKidd It comes down to education in the sense that of you educate yourself fully on this subject you will arrive to the same conclusion that science dictates. If you cloud your research with a pre conceived agenda, fear and paranoia you will believe in chemtrails. Once again contrail science dot com will have all the answers you require if you happily swallow your pride and put aside your paranoia to look at it without prejudice,

  • @riceburnagtv "It comes down to education in the sense that of you educate yourself…"

    I notice you seem to have a lot of difficulty with basic spelling and grammar, now what were you saying about educating yourself? LOL!

  • @AIexKidd Its called typing from an iphone and not really giving a fuck! The people who believe in this shit are retards anyways so it matters little how I structure my sentences or spell.

  • @AIexKidd this guy is just a shill and debunker idiot .. don't even talk to him

  • @riceburnagtv And, speaking of dribble… "If you cloud your research with a pre conceived agenda, fear and paranoia you will believe in chemtrails…"

    Right, and if you look up at the sky with your own eyes, do your own research, and read the reports finding Barium and Strontium in rainwater, you will believe in chemtrails. You appear to be the one with the pre-conceived agenda, and fear and paranoia have no bearing on the validity of anything.

  • @AIexKidd Looking up at sky with own eyes= flawed. Might as well believe the eath is flat

    Finding Barium in rain water = Flawed. The amounts were interpreted incorrectly and they were performed by leaving a tub of water out for a month! Oh and the one apparently from snow was taken when half the snow on the mountain has dried leaving massive amounts of dust and dirt to accumulate.

    Remember what I was saying about education. Anyways contrail science dot com will explain all.Peace :)

  • @riceburnagtv "Once again contrail science dot com will have all the answers you require…"

    I will check out that website, thanks!

  • @AIexKidd no, it doesn't contain answers.. it is full of typical debunker crap and Govt shill lies..

    find us on facebook.. Australians Against Chemtrails

  • hitman748 knows the truth, and those of us who can see under saturated skies of this shite the illness and disease caused, also know, he is right.

  • Start placing posters up all over the city people! Get the message out there!! It's what I'm doing at the moment!!! I'm not taking this shit anymore!! POSTERS GOING UP EVERYWHERE!!! LOOK OUT FOR THEM!!!!! STOP CHEMTRAILS!!!!!!!!

  • ummm, the theory that toxic chemicals are bad? Who knows what's in it but for a trail to "stick together" like that it has some pretty heavy particles in it, which means they will end up in your yard and house...

  • @nthnjkry Your yard, your house, your city's drinking water supply, your farms, your skin, AND All of YOUR KIDS LUNGS!

  • Which chemtrail theory are we debating here anyway? Mind-control, depopulation or weather modification?

  • Also, could you guys please be more specific as to which Barium compound is being used exactly?

    But heres a fun fact....When Barium compounds catch fire, they apparently burn a brilliant green color. That oughtta look really cool coming out of the back of a jet engine.

  • @RoninHawk perhaps that can explain the prominent green tinge to the sky and clouds after a heavy day at it, hmmm?

    you make a fun silly pair, though i couldnt imagine you on a fishing trip together without you killing each other.

  • What is it do you think is in the JP-8 that is causing cehmtrails?

  • In Japan, a rōnin|浪人 is a student who has graduated from middle school or high school but has failed to enter a school at the next level

  • Are you not checking your inbox?

  • Well, the CAA got it wrong if they were having you calculate for high altitude temps, rather than using existing weather data for those altitudes instead.

  • 1st Feb 2009 Adelaide Relative humidity - 41% temp at 9am 29.9c --- 3pm RH 24% 37.4c 1012.8Hpa. All we need is the airway information and the altitudes according to the semi circular rule for that particular heading in the CTA and we can work out the temps at that altitude on that day. Great chemtrail footage imo.

  • @mustanglead - Or, you could just find the weather reports in use for your area, which should include winds/temperatures aloft. This is data that aviators use every day. That way you wont have to "work out" the temperatures.

  • @RoninHawk - sorry, the Aviation weather reports.

    In the US we there are websites like ADDS and AWC, that cary weather data for air navigation.

  • Actually contrails can last for hours, sorry to burst your bubble. I've done my research and I work in the aviation industry, so quit spewing your nonsense and do YOUR research shill.

  • And what exactly do you do in the aviation industry? Trolley dolley? Baggage handler? Runway sweeper? Check in desk? lmao! A contrail cannot and does not last for hours or all day. To the maker of this video.. Do you have any recollection of the air temp at ground level on this day?

  • @mustanglead - Air temperature at ground level is irrelevant.

  • How do you figure that one Ronin? Temp decreases by 3c for every 1000ft increase.. It's called the adiabatic lapse rate. In cloud that is 1.5c. I would say it's a good starting point wouldn't you? I see no evidence of inversion layers on that day over Adelaide so it is a very good starting point and has lots of relevance unless the CAA got it wrong when I learnt to fly.

  • Right, but that particular adiabatic lapse rate is only for standard day conditions.

    Youre better off (and more accurate) just pulling the actual high altitude data from an aviation weather service, rather than drying to calculate it. Its not Top Secret info by any means and is available to you.

  • You're right, you can.. But there is nothing wrong with doing the math, it helps people understand the atmosphere a whole lot better and what constitutes a Chemtrail or a Contrail. It's like having a GPS and not knowing how to properly navigate. What you gonna do when the satelites don't work?

  • Yes there is something wrong with it. Because without determining the variations in your dry adiabatic lapse rate for your given conditions, your calculations will be wrong. Weather instruments from weather services are more accurate than you. And if you want to prove a bullshit chemtrail theory, you had best stay with the most accurate data you can get.

  • So now we're back to Chemtrails.. Great, it's about time! Your stance is clear, you obviously see nothing in it where as I do. You like to swallow anything that is given to you where as I don't. I know that 50-60% of science fact is corrupted and manipulated (making it science fiction) where as you don't. I don't trust anything said by a corrupt officialdom that lies about everything and has done for so long where as you do. You keep your head in the dirt I'll continue to look upwards.

  • Yes my stance is very clear. You chemtards are fucking morons. The only reason chemtrails exist in your ignorant minds, is because you think the governement is corrupted and the science is corrupted. It has nothing to do with facts. You guys cant even agree on your theories. Thats why there are multiple versions of the same bullshit theory. You are delusionally paranoid, and a liar. Period. I have zero respect for all of you.

  • Lmfao! It makes no difference what you call me or whether you respect me, that won't change any of what is going on. Whereas it is very suggestive of the size of your vocabluary and mindset. That is very typical of you 'bullshit believers'. I think the facts speak for themselves: My government admitted to doing exactly this (experimenting on the population) for decades by using these exact methods. It is you who shows most ignorance you can't even entertain a thought without accepting it.

  • Very well, explain to me which airplanes are being used, how the airplane has been configured to do this.

  • You do your own research I'm not here to do it for you. You seem pretty keyed up on the technical side of it at least so it shouldn't be too much trouble. Like you said - "You guys cant even agree on your theories" so it 's best you come to your own conclusions and perhaps put that interlect to some use. High bypass engines create more moisture and RH but that will still dissipate as you well know. I would suggest looking at the fuels and what survives combustion, particularly in JP-8.

  • Oh so your one of those who feel the chemical is mixed in with the fuel?

  • Yeah I already have my conclusions, no worries there. I just want to know which version of this theory you believe in. Besides, Ive said before, if you idiots cant prove its existance ont he airplane itself...then the rest of your bullshit is irrelevant.

  • Sounds like you got it all figured out! You can learn nothing because you already know everything.. Just no capacity left is there now Ronin. Like a bucket that is filled to the brim, everything else just slops out the top. You make far too many assumptions and as we all know that is "the mother of all screw-ups". I have to explain nothing to you, I wouldn't piss up your arse if your kidneys are on fire. Couldn't care less! Off you pop little boy, back to your rattle!

  • You still have stated no facts.

  • Apart from the altitudes and temps that contrails should occur - You disagree with that being fact now I suppose! I told you Ronin do your own research, I'm not here to teach you how to suck eggs.. You know how to do that well enough already. You are the only one who can 'crush' your own belief system, wish I could be there to watch but I'm a little busy.

  • Ive already done my research. Im not looking for you to educate me....I just want you to state your claims so I can 'crush' them, and you.

  • This is generally known as - A challenge.

    So, with that, I challenge you to tell me the chemicals in JP-8 that are causing chemtrails.

  • Cheers you stole my next point lol especially the patent - lol. It's stated as "an exemplary technique via the jet fuel as suggested by prior work" Sulfonic acid, barium salt are the secret ingredients and can hang there for upto a year.

  • Umm...No idiot. First off, unless your barium salt is in a liquid form it will flow in the fuel system like a sediment. Clogging fuel strainers/filters, and perhaps fuel lines themselves. Possibly damaging fuel pumps and engine parts.

    Second, Your Sulfonic acid not even a secret ingredient at all. It was tested in JP-5 back in the day for the purpose of enhancing its lubricity, but it failed to do so.

  • Besides, Idiot, Sulfonic acid is not even harmful to people. MSDS shows it as a skin/eyes irritant, but yet it is noncorrosive to skin and eyes.

    What else you got?

  • @RoninHawk It causes acid rain and is still used in the USAF planes. Short term exposure causes skin and eye irritation, long term exposure causes Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disease (COPD) it acts like asbestos creating scar tissue and damaging the lungs. This in turn causes you to have a weakened immune system.

    You should really research HAARP look at those patents and connect the dots for your self. Watch " Wake Up Call " things will make a little more sense. It's free on Google Video.

  • Ummm...no.

    First off....Sulfonic Acid is not a current ingredient in either JP-4, JP-5, or JP-8 fuels.

    Second of all....The only people who could possibly have any long-term exposure, would be the people who work with the fuel.

    Third - You dont know shit about USAF aircraft, and Air Force policies governing these aircraft.

  • Big Deal..the patent makes no mention of the use of Barium compounds, and no mention of this method's compatibility with complex aircraft fuel systems. Nor does it make mention of its effect on fuel expenses, by the airlines.

  • Besides, just because a patent exists doesnt mean whatsoever that it is in practice, or that it even works.

    Im pretty sure that proof of validity is not eve required for a patent.

  • @RoninHawk

    It certainly isn't. Patents have only to be specific and unambiguous

  • @RoninHawk he's right about you,that surely more than you know about you already huh.

  • @mustanglead

    "engines create more moisture and RH but that will still dissipate"

    And why should that be the case?

  • I like you beachcomber, you're a very smart character and I am intrigued as to why you have picked up my scent. Perhaps you feel you've found an easy quarry?

    Anyway did you mean "High bypass engines create more moisture and RH" - this point?

    Or "but that will still dissipate" - this point?

  • @mustanglead

    The latter

    Define "dissipate" more clearly

  • You understand what I mean quite clearly beach (you can look it up in a dictionary) or do you require timeframes per temps and altitude etc etc? I doubt that even you could give me accurate information regards that! I feel you are skirtiing the issue here so just get to the point.

  • @RoninHawk nor yourself, clearly.

  • I've seen them

  • 100% chemtrail

  • They've been spraying like crazy over North Western Victoria, Australia, over the past few months. Another big full sky spray yesterday in Mildura. They generally start spraying about 7am and by the end of the day the entire sky is one big haze. They only do it on really clear, calm, warm days. Last night, they kept the chemtrails going through the night. Biggest 24 hours ever since I've been monitoring it.

  • Good catch........ we caught an Alaskan Airline doing the same thing...... under 'Chemtrail Poison, They're Back' Check it out.

    Thanks for posting!

  • I have seen loaded up planes with Qantas staff with those fluro vests on, and they have the word qantas clearly written on the back. By loaded, I mean with massive tanks and tubular hose dispersal systems on board. They are involved in the spreading of this noxious poison and should be charged with treason. This is one facet of many methods being employed in a soft kill operation that is being conducted by the oligarchs and the ruling elite against the citizens of this planet. Check my page 4 it

  • Some HAARP to go with that chemtrail. 5*'s mate thanks. D

  • Contrail don't stick around for hours, they dissipate. I've watched them both I will post the deferences between the contrail and chimtrails here soon.

  • it's a common contrail

  • actually I am a pilot and that is NOT a con trail.

  • why?

  • Contrails do not last long they are usually 20X the length of the plane and follow the plane at that constant length. It is the same idea as your breath on a cold day and smoking on a cold day. You tube a Contrail to see what I mean. Also if you would like to see what these are also used for look up HAARP CBC Report on Youtube.

    Google Video these:

    Endgame -> Zeitgeist Addendum -> Wake Up Call

    These should be seen by all

  • I HIGHLY doubt your a pilot, you would know better. It's a contrail.

  • FYI 214 hrs on a Piper Warrior.

    Contrails don't create clouds, Chemtrails do! Next time please research before you make ignorant comments.

    U.S. Patent #: 5003186,

    Stratospheric Welsbach Seeding for Reduction of Global Warming, better known by chemtrail"

  • Good reply to dazed717 he only joined youtube april this year could he be a government plant? or just ignorant like you say?

  • how would you know the difference?Are you a pilot?Friend of mine is and he knows the difference between contrails and chemtrails.Are you a government shill or just ignorant?

  • aluminium oxide mixed with barium and various other active components floating down straight into our lungs . pure population control fuck the new world order - SKATE OR DIE!!!!

  • @ALCIADA666 lol if i was to skate i would probably fall on my head and die.

  • @ALCIADA666 Dear god i hope you are younger than 16...

  • Why should this be a chemtrail?

  • project sky obscuration. admitted by some, documented by a few and realized by many.

  • chemtrails programs are part of the aerospace defence program of U.S. army and N.A.T.O.the military aircraft that you see are spraying mostly barium and polimer. radar and satellite connections are used in combinations with military aerosols.the substances used are very toxic for the environment.

    this is very secret military stuff, and is not normal jet exaust or normal contrail.

  • chemtrails are military RADAR STUFF.

    in particular, the military destrupts clouds formations for better telecomunications of all type, for example, RADAR, satellites connection, wireless sensors....

    this is very bad for your and your family healths

    REMEMBER,ANY OTHER EXPLANATIONS IS A LIE,

    DISCLOSE AEROSOL OPERATIONS NOW

  • Actually it is a little bit more than just that you tube HAARP CBC Report. You will see what I mean.

  • This is true; I would like to add if anyone has noticed any difference in the air smell and taste after spraying. I noticed a slight smell of sulphur and could taste it. Its hard to describe though and I am wondering if anyone else has noticed this. There have been some comments about the military putting sulphur dioxide in their jet fuel. I suggest everyone who is interested in Chemtrails to look up the CBC report on HAARP. This is why Chemtrails are being sprayed.

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