Katherine Parr talks about Anne Boleyn

[afrababes1]

SHUT UP ALL U NO ONE CARES ABOUT THE DAMN NAME!

[AnahSkywalker]

@lat3908 totally agree! When Henry was fighting France she led an army to fight Scotland and she won!

[huh008]

katherine must be very good then, to give things in favour of both anne boleyn and elizabeth, considering they had differing beliefs though she was queen

[lizzbelle4]

oigan es q no hablo ingles,,que dice katherine parr sobre ana bolena?

[SewerKid1]

@lizzbelle4 "La madre de Lady Elizabeth,Anne Boleyn,también era luterana y una reformista.Supongo que es mi deber asegurar que la hija sea criada en la fe de la madre.¿Tendría alguna objeción con eso Srtia. Ashley?" A lo que Kat Ashley responde "ninguna su majestad.Estré orgullosa de enseñarle a honrar la memoria de su madre,cuya vida y fe es facilmente degradada por muchos".

[lat3908]

Without a doubt they were significant queens, but the best queen was surely Katherine of Aragon. She was queen for over 20 years and in that time she became the most beloved queen in Europe. She encouraged education for women and was a patron to the arts. Unlike Anne or Catherine, Katherine never compromise her conscious or her daughter. She fought for justice when everyone was against her and never stopped loving Henry. She was a strong, proud, and loyal wife. Katherine was the greatest queen!

[lovelystrings]

@lat3908 Catherine or Katherine did the same -- only she did not have a child with Henry -- otherwise I would think that she would have fought for her/him as well. Katherine Parr did quite a deal more than she is given credit for. My suggestion is to read a biography on Katherine Parr. Katherine's mother, Maud was a good friend and lady-in-waiting to Queen Katherine of Aragon.

[sasua741]

This is Jane Seymour not Catherine Parr... am i wrong?

[gracieloo123]

@sasua741 its Catherine Parr

[lovelystrings]

@gracieloo123 Actually it's Katherine.. or if you want to go by her signature -- Kateryn. They did the same thing with Catherine/Katherine of Aragon here in America. Catherine is the modern day spelling but most biographers go by "Katherine".

[genchandy]

I like Catherine Parr.

She was very nice.

:)

[SupesLovesPatamon]

religion was so confusing back then Catholics Lutherans and the first part of Anglican l

[chocolatefountain95]

I'll admit Anne was a Protestant when she was Queen but before she was executed she went back to Catholosism b/c at her last mass she recieved the bread and wine through transubtantiation

[miss0minnie0mouse]

@chocolatefountain95

yeah, because she was trying her hardest to get back in the king's good books and he was swaying back toward Catholicism

[dramaqueen7777777]

@LuthienofDoriath Did you get that from the Alison Weir book? That is only speculation, no one knows why she was sent from court, there is no record - but most historians presume it was to do with her mother xx

[Lanakikuta]

who is the actress who playes Katherine Parr? (sorry bad english xD)

[ladyanne97]

@Lanakikuta It's Joely Richardson

[Lanakikuta]

@ladyanne97 thanks ^^

[aaronomg]

meh, never liked her, annoyed me for some reason.

[KaypeeEmmkay]

anne boleyn= best queen ever. and katherine parr awell - survivor!

my name is katherine aswell so i like all the katherines :)

but i dont remember katherine parr being blonde!

[luvndanestrin]

They should have continued the series with Edward and the whole Jane Grey escapade... and then Mary.. and then Elizabeth haha we can go on forever

[ZeroMyHero99]

@luvndanestrin

They should have. But after watching this version of Parr, I'd be too sad to watch her die a year later.

[ligreekguy]

I am Greek Orthodox, and I really have to laugh at all the conniving tricks Catholics and Protestants pulled on each other. All for power, and nothing for true faith. One up to the Catholics, however, for sending their armies to oppose the Muslim wave that threatened to overrun Europe. The Protestants stayed holed up in northern Europe twiddling their thumbs, mocking all the sacred traditions, yet claiming to be so liberal and tolerant. Even the Renaissance is owed to Catholic efforts.

[HistoryLover1550]

It would've been interesting if Elizabeth met her aunt Mary Boleyn, she might have gotten to know more about her mother. Plus two of her cousins were a maid of honor and a privy councilor to her, awesome isn't it?!

[ligreekguy]

@HistoryLover1550

Mary Boleyn died in 1543 when Elizabeth was ten. Following her marriage to William Carey, she retired to the English countryside, and from what I know, never made any attempt to return to court life. She apparently disassociated herself from her family, as they more or less abandoned her in favor of advancing the career of Anne. The Boleyns all died within seven years of each other: Anne and George in 1536, Elizabeth (the mother) in 1538, Thomas (the father) in 1539.

[HistoryLover1550]

@ligreekguy True, I know next to Anne she's the only other member of the Boleyn family I've respect and admiration for.

[ligreekguy]

@HistoryLover1550

Anne's own father as well as uncle, the Duke of Norfolk, sat on the stacked jury that convicted her and condemned her to death. Norfolk made me particularly sick, as he waited only four years for his niece Catherine Howard to slip into post-puberty before shoving her toward Henry and then agreeing to her execution when she strayed. He defied fate so much that Henry died just in time right before he was set to sign off on Norfolk's execution for treason in 1547.

[HistoryLover1550]

@ligreekguy Ikr! I hated Norfolk and Thomas Boleyn!

[ligreekguy]

@HistoryLover1550

Norfolk's son was not as fortunate, having been executed just a few days before Henry died. Norfolk remained in prison throughout the reign of Edward (since he was part of the Catholic faction at court), and why he was not executed when Edward ordered the beheadings of his own two uncles is odd. Norfolk was released by Mary when she came to the throne in 1553, another oddity since he was not especially good to her or her mother in the 1530s. He died in 1554 at age 81.

[HistoryLover1550]

@ligreekguy I know, he should've been beheaded then and there.

[princesaelizabeth4]

because, I mention about Anne Boleyn?

[roxylulu1]

Shes so nice! Anne Boleyn + Kathrine Parr = The best Queens --By Far

[denisonM]

@roxylulu1 catherine of aragon and katherine parr=GREATEST QUEENS!

[roxylulu1]

@denisonM not even KoA was boring...same with Jane

[PrincessKarrah]

@roxylulu1 I know and what I don't get is WHY was it for Henry to have affairs with almost every girl at court but when Anne head alleged affairs it was it was the death sentence for her

[FantasmaLuna]

@PrincessKarrah Because Henry was a man and therefore superior, according to the views of the public at the time. There isn't even any proof that Anne had any affairs and when you look at it, some of the accusations against her are really quite ridiculous.

[PrincessKarrah]

@FantasmaLuna The view of the public have not changed that much now a day guys who sleep around are studs girls who do it are Sl:ts

[FantasmaLuna]

@PrincessKarrah True, but they don't chop their heads off over it any more, thankfully.

[PrincessKarrah]

@FantasmaLuna Amen to that and thankfully woman can be more then just a baby factory now a days

[AmethystPiscesNix]

Joely Richardson reli did let the side down in this show she was the only one i felt dint do the wives justice

[donnylovesayesha1]

now i dont know if she aint heard but she ought to know them ladies in waiting dont keep their mouth shut next she'll be goin up for treason

[liztinkerbell]

elizabeth does have red hair!

[ReneODeay]

more misses IMO. Elizabeht should have red hair.

[roxylulu1]

i dont get it........ wasnt being a reformer what u were supposed to be in king h's reign ....when did they get all catholic?

[AWickedMind]

@roxylulu1 - It was dangerous to lean too far one way or the other in Henry's court. Though he separated from Rome to be able to get a divorce, he continued to practice as a Catholic all his life. So pushing Catholicism was to challenge the King's divorce, but pushing Protestantism was to go against the King's own practices. Both sides waged war for dominancy during his time, yet Henry never fully supported either, and so it became that a member of either speaking out too loudly was squashed.

[TheLeaveTaking]

I loved that scene. I miss Anne Boleyn. I'm a little sad that Elizabeth never mentioned her mother so far, wondering who she really were.

[NekoKitty933]

@TheLeaveTaking Well when she became queen she made a ring were was a miny potray of her and her mother so she did actually loved her mother even she really didn't get to spend time with her much.

[CalasstriaStar]

@TheLeaveTaking Actually, that's pretty faithful to the real Elizabeth. From what I've read and learned, she was very fixated on her father and spoke little of her mother. She was definitely her father's daughter in more ways than one.

[Medusa0999]

@TheLeaveTaking It was too risky to mention her mother, She was always trying to win her father's approval and mentioning Anne would have angered him

[phantomjo]

@TheLeaveTaking It is a lovely scene, but the in the true story, Elizabeth was only around 3/4 when her mother was executed, so she wouldn't have known much of her, only a a few memories, but Henry became her world...

[TheStarSorceress]

@TheLeaveTaking

She was barely 3 when Anne was executed so she most likely doesn't remember anything. She also probably doesn't mention her mother for fear of Henry's temper.

[SewerKid1]

@TheLeaveTaking They could add it as to add drama and mention Anne more often to please the fans,but Elizabeth I (the real person) didn't mention or felt much curiosity about Anne Boleyn,at least that is what it seems like on record.

[AnneBoleyn15]

Wasn't it very common for the daughter TOO follow the mother's religion or could they have picked another religion to follow?

[HistoryLover1550]

@AnneBoleyn15 I think it all depended on the father's say, it was a man's world at that time.

[mascaragirl818]

AWEEE so sweet, on catherines part! however i though anne boleyn was anglician?

[FlowerChild65]

@mascaragirl818 The term 'Lutheran' was used much more broadly than we would use it today. It was used to describe anyone of Reformist ideals basically and the terms 'Lutheran' and 'Protestant' were used kind of interchangeably whereas now Lutheranism is a specific denomination. Also, historians would probably say Anne's beliefs were Anglican but the founding doctrines of Anglicanism were not written until after her death. Anglicanism took shape under Elizabeth who insisted on 'the middle way'.

[LadyDiscordAphrodite]

@mascaragirl818 No, Anne was a Lutheran, though so many different sects have sprung up from that I would not be surprised if they became the same or very similar definitions. I'm surprised because I thought Katherine Parr was a Catholic.

[QueenAnneBoleynkatia]

good catherine shared anne's beliefs she was so kind hearted wanting elizabeth to follow anne's beliefs