I agree here, but I don't like the "nutsack" bit (ladies are being corrupted when they're told to pledge allegiance but they don't have nutsacks). Know what I'm sayin?
Great video! I feel the same. Cops and armies are a monopoly of force and we have to pay taxes to support them when we don't agree with their beliefs. The state is someone forcing their beliefs on me with the threat of violence, death or thrown into a cage if I don't agree or follow their rules.
That does not answer my questions. What would you do with them, the worst of the worst pedophiles and rapist who are beyond rehabilitation?
In Norway we treat them as mentally ill, unlike American asylums ours are very dignified, people are treated with respect and given as much freedom as possible without being able to harm others. This means they are often allowed to play video games, watch movies, have comfortable accomidations, collect comic books. Most would have them in cages or killed.
So in your own preference and society there would be prisons? When you talk about statism you talk about Norway because Norway is a nation, yet many of your concepts of what a State is does not apply to us. We have prisons just like your society would, only I'm curious what you would do with the worst of the worst. If they were mentally ill and beyond rehabilitation how would you treat them and where would you put them?
Yet just like an American you think you know a better way for everyone else to live. You define State as if you are talking about your state. You admitted yourself that you know nothing of Norway, you would be surprised to find just how differently our state operates from your preconceptions.
How are you defining the word State? Are you using a special definition like with Anarchy? Would you have an old woman with palsy rely on random kindness that may not come during our harsh winters?
Who in Norway has a monopoly on violence? How is a state a perversion of the goal of prosperity, liberty, and respect?
We have government in Norway because we have a vested interest in all of it's functions. We have a vested interest in keeping pedophiles off the streets. We have a vested interest in preserving our constitution. We have a vested interest in paved roads, education, and making sure that no one is left to fend for themselves.
I would be for that in most context. I believe that government is very important but that it should exist to serve the people, not to be served by the people.
The role of government in my opinion should be just what we have, a primarily administrative body tasked with maintaining infrastructure and social programs, to help maintain a decent standard of living in our society. In Norway we care for our sick, our hungry, our handicapped, and our homeless, we would never give that up.
You are speaking of a problem of corruption and special privilege then. The problem with government and law but instead inequity and unfairness.
Norway operates with the premise that whenever possible the people should be as free as possible, and no position of authority entitles you to violate someone else's rights.
I have seen footage of police in America stomping on protestors, gang beating minorities, bullying, taunting, goading. This should not be allowed in any civilized country.
Ah, decentralization maybe? In Norway, we have much freedom, most of our laws are protect out rights and the rights of others, some are to maintain public order but they are not heavily enforced. Our police don't even carry guns.
When people in America, China, or Russia think of a prison or police they think of a police state because they live in a police state. Our system is nothing like that, even our worst criminals are treated better than most free citizens in other countries.
Ok then, the word I means ignus and the word Objective means Magic and the word Definition means Pink Unicorn.
Is that very useful for communication? Words are just sounds we make to convey information. Currently you're using a special definition of anarchy that isn't official and isn't widely accepted, so your use of the term is misleading and poor for communication. If you want to redefine anarchy so that it means a form of government and a type of law then you are inverting it's meaning.
If you have a government you don't have an anarchy. You're re-defining terms to fit your trend.
Not every state is a police state like yours intheend, the United States is not the best place on earth and it's not the most free place on earth. If you want that, come to Norway, but get used to the idea of a society that cares for it's sick and elderly because unlike you Americans we actually do that. If you want a dog eat dog every man for himself type world, you won't find it here.
@Ilikenuman Anarchy means no government, no government means no public services. If that is what you want, go establish an anarchy in South America, no one is stopping you.
@Valmarith Government = think about it as a decision making group that would come together on an anarchist society to solve a certain problem, when another problem comes up, a different group of people (those affected by it) will have the right to make a unison decision on what the solution is going to be. State = Paying taxes, No private ownership. Overforced legislations and right to usage of extreme force. "Wars, taxation, evictions". Hope that answers it.
@juantor16 That is why anarchy is impossible, you have just described a very naive decentralized government but it is still government. No private ownership? Sounds great if you're the only person on the planet. You do realize that Taxes fund Schools, Fire Departments, Road Work, and so forth? We all have a vested interest in these things. Your philosophy could only lead to decay and stagnation.
god damn it i war going to ask u if u saw v for vendetta and u play it at the end. And i undestand what your sayin and infact i debated against your newsest video call dprjones hates the poor put up by confederalist and he blocked me. Ass hole bitch. But i got respect for your understanding. But just like v for vendetta u cant take out a goverment unless u have the people willing to go in a certain direction. If not it would be a regression to an animalistic society which would do way more harm
I really like your idea that all modern societies governed by a capitalist state today are ruled by de facto communism. It slaps anti capitalist anarchist communists as well as the liberal fascist anti communist masses right in the face! I think you could expand some on it. Interesting and somewhat funny I think. :)
The 10 planks in the communist manifesto were a delineation of the TRANSITION to communism, not the definition thereof. Different theorists used various definitions, but they generally agreed that it would be a classless society, whereas the adoption of the 10 planks implies the existence of a ruling class to enforce them. That transitional society was referred to as "the socialist society", so, if you want to use Marxist-Leninist terms, IMHO the word "socialist" is a better description of
A country is not communist if industry is priavetly owned (relatively). Forget the state capitalist system, progressive taxes, and welfare measures; it cannot be communist so long as the aforementioned is true, period. And the Fox News comment was generic.
How do you disagree with what is objectively true? What evidence do you have that this country is communist? ACTUALLY communist, not a watered down rhetorical definition.
Again,state capitalism does not =communism.
The articles about the topic and the way you and others throw rhetoric around is Fox News level. All you're doing is defaming a position by misrepresenting it and by distorting the facts to better support your dogmatic belief.
Even if you go by the ten planks, it's not even close.
Each plank is stated generically and then someone goes and finds some obscure government act or policy that is loosely related to a plank.
Like the first plank, zoning laws and property taxes do not mean that private property is used outright for public purpose and it certainly does not mean that private property is abolished.
@JJDarklink I wouldn't think so, they do blow things out of proportion and they lie. Straight up lie, with a smile on their face. But really the media isn't free, it's all info-tainment, whether you want it straight faced or sensationalized, you'll never find truly unbiased media anywhere anymore. To me it's more like they sound like they have an agenda, an agenda to oppose other media so as to divide us. Everything in this country is about division, who's side you're on.
Well Rothbard was just trying to minemize power overtime to get to statelessness
I dont understand why that would piss anyone off because if the state just callapses while the masses are ignorant of true freedom than Ignorance of the masses will just reform another or a another state invades in the chaos of the ignorance and anarchists fighting one another
how would this stateless society deal with issues like nuclear bombs and intercontinental ballistic missiles? Would these be free to own? And if not, who would regulate?
I just don't get what goes through the minds of people like him. Do they not bother to THINK before they speak? let alone switch on a camera and record videos for the world to see... LOL
If I'm not mistaken, private property hasn't been outlawed. So this isn't a communist country. Thats like one of the most important tenants of communism. Most would describe us as a mixed economy. What we'll be in 10 years is anybodies guess.
i was just debating this guy in the comments of his video "is thunderfoot a marxist?" he has no clue what he's about and insists that somehow obeying "law" is distinct from obeying man. but i agree with confederalsocialist, i've debated quite a few objectivists and they seem to posses no ability to form an original idea.
And don't forget to add that the state goes to these wars because they -profit- when using our money instead of their own. It would be way too expensive and financially suicidal for a private company to start such wars.
The actor John Hurt did an Excellent portrayal of the big brother type dictator in the movie "Vendetta" particularly the rant when he demands "I want Everyone to Remember Why they Need US! This is my 5* Thanks and will favorite this video.
You made the video that I was way too lazy to make. Beautiful.
Esoparagon 6 months ago
I agree here, but I don't like the "nutsack" bit (ladies are being corrupted when they're told to pledge allegiance but they don't have nutsacks). Know what I'm sayin?
awsmsc 10 months ago
Great video! I feel the same. Cops and armies are a monopoly of force and we have to pay taxes to support them when we don't agree with their beliefs. The state is someone forcing their beliefs on me with the threat of violence, death or thrown into a cage if I don't agree or follow their rules.
PoedPeasant 1 year ago
That does not answer my questions. What would you do with them, the worst of the worst pedophiles and rapist who are beyond rehabilitation?
In Norway we treat them as mentally ill, unlike American asylums ours are very dignified, people are treated with respect and given as much freedom as possible without being able to harm others. This means they are often allowed to play video games, watch movies, have comfortable accomidations, collect comic books. Most would have them in cages or killed.
Valmarith 2 years ago
So in your own preference and society there would be prisons? When you talk about statism you talk about Norway because Norway is a nation, yet many of your concepts of what a State is does not apply to us. We have prisons just like your society would, only I'm curious what you would do with the worst of the worst. If they were mentally ill and beyond rehabilitation how would you treat them and where would you put them?
Valmarith 2 years ago
You have proven once again that you know nothing of Norway. You are speaking as if all governments are like yours.
Valmarith 2 years ago
If you want to play those games.
What do you propose a society should do with it's pedophiles, rapist, and murderers?
Valmarith 2 years ago
Yet just like an American you think you know a better way for everyone else to live. You define State as if you are talking about your state. You admitted yourself that you know nothing of Norway, you would be surprised to find just how differently our state operates from your preconceptions.
How are you defining the word State? Are you using a special definition like with Anarchy? Would you have an old woman with palsy rely on random kindness that may not come during our harsh winters?
Valmarith 2 years ago
Who in Norway has a monopoly on violence? How is a state a perversion of the goal of prosperity, liberty, and respect?
We have government in Norway because we have a vested interest in all of it's functions. We have a vested interest in keeping pedophiles off the streets. We have a vested interest in preserving our constitution. We have a vested interest in paved roads, education, and making sure that no one is left to fend for themselves.
Your ways are not our ways.
Valmarith 2 years ago
I would be for that in most context. I believe that government is very important but that it should exist to serve the people, not to be served by the people.
The role of government in my opinion should be just what we have, a primarily administrative body tasked with maintaining infrastructure and social programs, to help maintain a decent standard of living in our society. In Norway we care for our sick, our hungry, our handicapped, and our homeless, we would never give that up.
Valmarith 2 years ago
You are speaking of a problem of corruption and special privilege then. The problem with government and law but instead inequity and unfairness.
Norway operates with the premise that whenever possible the people should be as free as possible, and no position of authority entitles you to violate someone else's rights.
I have seen footage of police in America stomping on protestors, gang beating minorities, bullying, taunting, goading. This should not be allowed in any civilized country.
Valmarith 2 years ago
Ah, decentralization maybe? In Norway, we have much freedom, most of our laws are protect out rights and the rights of others, some are to maintain public order but they are not heavily enforced. Our police don't even carry guns.
When people in America, China, or Russia think of a prison or police they think of a police state because they live in a police state. Our system is nothing like that, even our worst criminals are treated better than most free citizens in other countries.
Valmarith 2 years ago
Ok then, the word I means ignus and the word Objective means Magic and the word Definition means Pink Unicorn.
Is that very useful for communication? Words are just sounds we make to convey information. Currently you're using a special definition of anarchy that isn't official and isn't widely accepted, so your use of the term is misleading and poor for communication. If you want to redefine anarchy so that it means a form of government and a type of law then you are inverting it's meaning.
Valmarith 2 years ago
If you have a government you don't have an anarchy. You're re-defining terms to fit your trend.
Not every state is a police state like yours intheend, the United States is not the best place on earth and it's not the most free place on earth. If you want that, come to Norway, but get used to the idea of a society that cares for it's sick and elderly because unlike you Americans we actually do that. If you want a dog eat dog every man for himself type world, you won't find it here.
Valmarith 2 years ago
@Valmarith
bullshit, theres a difference between government and state. you just pulled that dichotomy straight out of your ass
Ilikenuman 1 year ago
@Ilikenuman Anarchy means no government, no government means no public services. If that is what you want, go establish an anarchy in South America, no one is stopping you.
Valmarith 1 year ago
@Valmarith again, youve just repeated yourself. government, and state arent the same thing.
Ilikenuman 1 year ago
@Ilikenuman Ok and what does saying "Government and State arent the same thing" even mean?
Valmarith 1 year ago
@Valmarith Government = think about it as a decision making group that would come together on an anarchist society to solve a certain problem, when another problem comes up, a different group of people (those affected by it) will have the right to make a unison decision on what the solution is going to be. State = Paying taxes, No private ownership. Overforced legislations and right to usage of extreme force. "Wars, taxation, evictions". Hope that answers it.
juantor16 1 year ago
@juantor16 That is why anarchy is impossible, you have just described a very naive decentralized government but it is still government. No private ownership? Sounds great if you're the only person on the planet. You do realize that Taxes fund Schools, Fire Departments, Road Work, and so forth? We all have a vested interest in these things. Your philosophy could only lead to decay and stagnation.
Valmarith 1 year ago
god damn it i war going to ask u if u saw v for vendetta and u play it at the end. And i undestand what your sayin and infact i debated against your newsest video call dprjones hates the poor put up by confederalist and he blocked me. Ass hole bitch. But i got respect for your understanding. But just like v for vendetta u cant take out a goverment unless u have the people willing to go in a certain direction. If not it would be a regression to an animalistic society which would do way more harm
milkeddowncocobrown 2 years ago
Woa woa woa... not communist in US...
private property agree
agreed only you protect rights
keep workin
migg137 2 years ago
You tell 'em!
BabelOn4infinity 2 years ago
gotta love this youtube wars
greenhell666 2 years ago
Yeah, I am gonna go grab a display pair at sam's, and just use the clear glass.
conceptualanarchist 2 years ago
I wish I was as smart as you. But I don't wear glasses, so I can't be.
conceptualanarchist 2 years ago
Wow, InThEnd, I didn't realize you were so cute :)
Oh, and I'm in confed's camp, just so you know. I'm with ya, dawg.
drewmandan 2 years ago
brilliant! 5* fav
TWISTbeats 2 years ago
I came up with a sign back when I was in high school: "peace sign" ful "Anarchy sign". = peaceful anarchy.
AwakePublius420 2 years ago 2
I really like your idea that all modern societies governed by a capitalist state today are ruled by de facto communism. It slaps anti capitalist anarchist communists as well as the liberal fascist anti communist masses right in the face! I think you could expand some on it. Interesting and somewhat funny I think. :)
tpsisokayiguess 2 years ago
expansion:
1. "The fundamental contradictory premise of statism is that legal hypocrisy can solve problems.
2. Since statism is the claim, it is that which must be proven (we are born anarchists).
FreiheitKampfer 2 years ago
the catholic church has private property
911TruthNetwork 2 years ago
ok.
techjunkie92 2 years ago
ok, im just curious how our current society is communist. What definition are you using?
techjunkie92 2 years ago
how is the united states currently a dictatorship of the proletariat?
techjunkie92 2 years ago
The 10 planks in the communist manifesto were a delineation of the TRANSITION to communism, not the definition thereof. Different theorists used various definitions, but they generally agreed that it would be a classless society, whereas the adoption of the 10 planks implies the existence of a ruling class to enforce them. That transitional society was referred to as "the socialist society", so, if you want to use Marxist-Leninist terms, IMHO the word "socialist" is a better description of
vonPeterhof 2 years ago
(cont.) the modern USA, along with words like communist-leaning, communism-bound, a fellow-traveller society or a pinko society.
vonPeterhof 2 years ago
Great video. Love the ending. By the way, Murray Rothbard rocks and I'll punch anyone in the nose who says otherwise :-)
tumbleweedjoe 2 years ago 3
Good Video
nglasers 2 years ago
Great video. You are a smart Motherfucker.
SuppressedNews 2 years ago
Fuck this anti-statist bullshit. We may as well call ourselves "archons suckists".
robinsoncrucify 2 years ago
V for vendetta muthafugas! U think the Wachowski bros are anti-statists? They did do the Matrix and V for Vendetta, which makes me think that.
Masturbating4America 2 years ago
isnt communism a classless society where everyone gets paid the same (or is this not the definition Lenin used)?
techjunkie92 2 years ago
Thanks again for the shout out.
AustinW90 2 years ago
Great video and I did like the end
eze13esp 2 years ago
great vid loved it
acesas 2 years ago
I'm getting a lot of invisible comments...ninjas?
AIexKidd 2 years ago
A country is not communist if industry is priavetly owned (relatively). Forget the state capitalist system, progressive taxes, and welfare measures; it cannot be communist so long as the aforementioned is true, period. And the Fox News comment was generic.
NoMorFear 2 years ago
W/e, I'm stupid for arguing over this.
I'm just tired of some of the rhetoric, I care about what's true, I'll call BS where I see it no matter what, and it's mildly entertaining.
NoMorFear 2 years ago
Why would you ask me that question? "Objectively" does not = objectivism.
Yeah, you believe it based on little to no evidence, but you like the way it fits in with your ideology so you believe it anway.
I have Free Market favorites and a pro-capitalist quote on my page, I'm not socialist. I'm pluralist, Free Market leaning if anything.
No...I'm arguing for what is true regardless of beliefs. Even if I disagree with it, I'm not going to distort the truth.
NoMorFear 2 years ago
How do you disagree with what is objectively true? What evidence do you have that this country is communist? ACTUALLY communist, not a watered down rhetorical definition.
Again,state capitalism does not =communism.
The articles about the topic and the way you and others throw rhetoric around is Fox News level. All you're doing is defaming a position by misrepresenting it and by distorting the facts to better support your dogmatic belief.
I'm not arguing for any position, just the facts
NoMorFear 2 years ago
You're not just using the same concepts, you're regurgitating what he says word for word.
Like @ around 8:00, the mock "I pledge allegiance" gesture with the projected authority point is EXACTLY what he does.
NoMorFear 2 years ago
Even if you go by the ten planks, it's not even close.
Each plank is stated generically and then someone goes and finds some obscure government act or policy that is loosely related to a plank.
Like the first plank, zoning laws and property taxes do not mean that private property is used outright for public purpose and it certainly does not mean that private property is abolished.
It is Fox News level rhetoric.
NoMorFear 2 years ago
lolz. fox news level?
like fox news is blowing things out of proportion? I wish they were blowing things out of proportion.
just because no one else says something doesn't make it not true. most likely other people aren't saying it for a reason. DUH.
I find this is what people don't like about fox news. OH MY GOD THEY SOUND CRAZY!!!!
or are they just different less creamy shit than the other shit on television?
JJDarklink 2 years ago 3
@JJDarklink I wouldn't think so, they do blow things out of proportion and they lie. Straight up lie, with a smile on their face. But really the media isn't free, it's all info-tainment, whether you want it straight faced or sensationalized, you'll never find truly unbiased media anywhere anymore. To me it's more like they sound like they have an agenda, an agenda to oppose other media so as to divide us. Everything in this country is about division, who's side you're on.
effigytormented 8 months ago
Allan Greenspan and company predicted the market, and he quit his job because he knew he fucked it up.
It was all because he couldn't control it and the corruption.
blueghist 2 years ago
And please stop regurgitating everything confederalsocialst says.
I like some of your videos, but you are literally regurgitating his thoughts and ideas word for word sometimes....
NoMorFear 2 years ago
i thought so lol
love to hear comments you on: watch?v=dtH1f8NXPFc
ExomatrixTV 2 years ago
That communism statement is ridiculous and it's a good thing you said it's your "belief".
Explain to me how America is communist if the means of production are (relatively) privately owned. That alone tells you America is not communist.
And no, obscure gov acts that are loosely similar to the planks are not proof of "communism".
I'm not even a communist, but you are distorting the facts.
State capitalism does not = communism, no matter how much you would like to think so.
NoMorFear 2 years ago 3
Well Rothbard was just trying to minemize power overtime to get to statelessness
I dont understand why that would piss anyone off because if the state just callapses while the masses are ignorant of true freedom than Ignorance of the masses will just reform another or a another state invades in the chaos of the ignorance and anarchists fighting one another
themetalhead667 2 years ago
how would this stateless society deal with issues like nuclear bombs and intercontinental ballistic missiles? Would these be free to own? And if not, who would regulate?
TheVikingNinja 2 years ago
I just don't get what goes through the minds of people like him. Do they not bother to THINK before they speak? let alone switch on a camera and record videos for the world to see... LOL
TheWiretap 2 years ago
If I'm not mistaken, private property hasn't been outlawed. So this isn't a communist country. Thats like one of the most important tenants of communism. Most would describe us as a mixed economy. What we'll be in 10 years is anybodies guess.
TheVikingNinja 2 years ago
What, you're rich???
Joeki11a 2 years ago
That guy missed your video about what Anarchy is
Joeki11a 2 years ago
communist party?
I don't think states are the issue, its leader ship that is important.
TheVikingNinja 2 years ago
emergagenist why are you using that?
what problems do people have with Rothbard?
themetalhead667 2 years ago
Read some Ayn Rand, especially her "Capitalism:the Unknown Ideal" and get back to me.
Good grief.
MrCropper 2 years ago
That's a cop out. Make an argument or don't bother commenting.
contrarianbastard 2 years ago
i was just debating this guy in the comments of his video "is thunderfoot a marxist?" he has no clue what he's about and insists that somehow obeying "law" is distinct from obeying man. but i agree with confederalsocialist, i've debated quite a few objectivists and they seem to posses no ability to form an original idea.
chainzdown2dadik 2 years ago
mrcropper is stupid.
I'm glad all the responses he has already had have saved me the bother of making one :)
TheWiretap 2 years ago
what sort of upstanding self-respecting libertarian turns into a statist after reading Rand?
unpack that.
JJDarklink 2 years ago
Love the ending : D, freakin awesome video!
ShawnLake84 2 years ago 2
10 star video
theresa8042 2 years ago 3
You talk like you have to catch the train, are you in a hurry @InTheEndIWasRight ?
but I admire your efforts :o)
Statism a NWO Mafia Tool to Deceive Slaves in Dystopia Part 1 of 2: watch?v=dtH1f8NXPFc
Part 2 of 2: watch?v=UfRxQC_vePM
ExomatrixTV 2 years ago
I love that Rothbard passage.
This guy has gotten bombarded. Good. He needs it. V for Vendetta!
Btw, I just uploaded my 50th video with a good little piece of artistic expression that I cited. Tell me what you think of it.
GuardofLiberty 2 years ago
yeah dude... that quote was bomb.
JJDarklink 2 years ago
word up, the only reason we got these wars going is b/c the state takes money out of our laber through taxes, and exploit us to fund their drama wars
chatsworthsharp420 2 years ago
And don't forget to add that the state goes to these wars because they -profit- when using our money instead of their own. It would be way too expensive and financially suicidal for a private company to start such wars.
Anon1696 2 years ago
Wrote a new article about anarchy on my page, so let me know if you like it.
aesopstruth 2 years ago
Brilliant Ending Eric!
The actor John Hurt did an Excellent portrayal of the big brother type dictator in the movie "Vendetta" particularly the rant when he demands "I want Everyone to Remember Why they Need US! This is my 5* Thanks and will favorite this video.
aesopstruth 2 years ago
Great response dude :-) Based on the responses I got to my video though I don't think these guys are particularly open to any opposing viewpoints :-p
Stargazer5781 2 years ago