Drum Rudiments #30 - Flam Drag - DrumRudiments.com

[irwin3036able]

Its kinda awesome how the famous drummers got their own "fave" rudiments

Lars Ulrich- 7 stroke roll( the breakdown in "One" ) and Flams

Mike Portnoy- Swiss Army Triplet

Mike Mangini- Single Stroke Roll

[ajcf1995]

@irwin3036able what about scott johnson??

[tsadrummer]

gotta love dc10s

[acidbath32]

at least you people aren't growing up in the 60s, where you have nothing to learn from except the radio, personal guidance from a teacher and your ear, hes definitely SHOWING you the rudiments

[rhssnare]

That's my favorite rudiment!!!!

[twichyrain]

grrr, y didnt god make me ambedexterious

[guitarist30]

Wow. Those aren't even in a triplet meter. Once again, you have showed us how not to play the drums.

[coltonbean2007]

dick...

[guitarist30]

Trust me man if this had been some kid who was a new drummer showing off his newly acquired flam drags, then it would be totally different. This guy has all forty rudiments up for those same new drummers to learn from, and if they learn from these videos, they are learning incorrectly. It's unfortunate that people watch these videos and begin to model them.

[dc1030guy]

I agree 100% ... those are the funkiest sounding flam drags I've ever heard. If you are trying to get into a drum corps or a college drumline, DO NOT learn from this guy.

[1BlakeMorris]

Excuse me for asking, but what is incorrect about this rudiment. I have been playing the kit for almost 3 years now but wanted to really get into the details of theory and rudiments lately. If your going to post negative comments then at least tell the right way to do it...

[guitarist30]

I'd be happy to explain that to you. First of all, you can note the inconsistencies in the spacing between his grace notes and accents. Compare the spacing of the flam right at 0:14 , which is extremely open to the one at say...right at 0:20 , which is extremely closed. In fact, all his left hand flams from 0:20 to 0:25 are effectively double stops. I'll put the rest in another reply.

[CJxSPRAYER]

not dissin your druming "skills" but i thought it was funny that its "Guitarist30" lol

[guitarist30]

The other things to note are the inaccuracies in his timing. He starts off with correct triplet timing, but around 0:17 he starts moving the "pul," or the second partail, of the triplet closer to the "let," or the third partial. So in effect, it sounds as if the first note he's playing falls on the beat, the second note, in this case two notes because of the drag, falls on the "and" of the beat, and the third note falls on the "let" of the triplet. It should be an even triplet.

[1BlakeMorris]

Right on, Thanks!

[guitarist30]

Yes sir.

[drummerdemon]

that's because it's a drag. The reason that a drag is notated the way it is is that those are two grace notes before a regular note. They're not to be played following regular metre, just as how the grace note of a flam is supposed to be directly connected with its regular note.

[guitarist30]

The flam drag is most definitely metered. Take a quick trip over to Vic Firth's website and look at the 40 essential rudiments. Look at the flam drag, then look at the ruff. The ruff is the set of unmetered grace notes you are talking about.

[JailhouseRN]

holy shit! Pro Mark DC-10's....how old is this video? I didn't think anyone used those shitty sticks any more. Not bad on the Flam Drags though. Not gonna dog him for that... For sticks though...I recommend the SCJ's, VF Hardimons, or Silver Fox MS.

[Pitchaxistheorem]

I'm good with drags so i love this rudiment

[BruisedEyeSockets]

Everybody drums a different way. Calling the individuals wrong is not true, perhaps they were taught differently. I find this drummer very skilled.

[gdawgm3]

If u dont like how this guy is playin - GO FUK URSELF

[BlueDevilsFreak42]

i love this rudiment

[jdjc79]

Why do drummers have to behave like such wankers? Trying to make yourself big by criticising others achieves the exact opposite. I appreciate these vidoes. Maybe they're not perfect, but neither am I and neither, I suspect, are you.

Drumming is not sport, it's not a competition. It's music and art. Get over yourselves and stop behaving like insecure little children.

Or how about you post your own videos of the rudiments to show how perfect you are?

[RIce2324]

I would LOVE to see a video without any mistakes. They can have a good time with that one.

But believe me, i'm going to be up anybody's ass who posts one. One loose pinky, and i'm going to town.

[2BC0N71NU3D]

@jdjc79 You sir are awesome.

[TheSHAYTARDREBELLION]

@jdjc79 You are so right, are you a drummer? hahaha

[jdjc79]

@TheSHAYTARDREBELLION Yes I am a drummer - I'm studying full time at the moment. I used to be not very good, but I'm a lot better now. There is so much to learn from others! I've had guidance from many great drummers this year and I can say that all of them were humble and respectful about their art. Hopefully others will learn some humility as they get older. Most of my favourite drummers are not technical monsters, they just sound great and play the right thing for the music.

[ajcf1995]

@jdjc79 godly comment. i respect you for that.

[apocalypsed1]

I love how this guy acts all professional but he sucks. His drags are late. Play triplets or flam accents to his drags you will see they are late.

[brocknroll3333]

Thank you I've been trying to point out how he sucks and how he should not be posting these videos. He is leading innocent drummers awry.

[davens99]

I really enjoy the vids and appreciate that someone went though the trouble of putting them up. They are showing me alot and helping my own playing greatly.

[pedro241292]

this videos are awsome and i am seeing always every one,from first lesson ,its very helpful,cheers mate!

[dc1030guy]

That's just it .. he's showing you how to incorrectly play these rudiments. I'm just saying ...

[guitarist30]

Finally somebody who understands.

[victorbaterazildjian]

rudiments, our best basis to play advanced!

[AlphaFalconX]

Wtf? Do you play with the butt of the sticks in all your videos?

[CFsnare07]

thats how the sticks are made

[rocopoco55]

wow you sir are a fucking DUMB ass

[Pitchaxistheorem]

wow you sir are a fucking DUMB shit

[rocopoco55]

haha wow your lame,

give your older brother back his computer

those sticks are made like that and he thoughy he was using the butt of the stick

get the fuck off here cunt

[Pitchaxistheorem]

Duh... I'm not even referring to the sticks. geez

[rocopoco55]

okay well you called me a dumb ass for no reason,

so fuck you kid

[Pitchaxistheorem]

Okay... I'm not taking it personally... So fuck you too. :) have a nice day.

[rocopoco55]

love you too

[RUDLKA0708]

Lmao.