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  • it's certain that Suwako is the easiest extra boss, but who's the 2nd easiest? I beat Suwako twice now and want a new challenger after i beat PCB on normal

  • @gary13931 Try Ran, PCB "cherry" system helps a lot (Think of it as, like, 16+ free bombs)

  • I wish here was a graze counter in this game.

  • Just wondering... Why does Suwako meet the CURSED GOD OF SEX like maybe most or sometimes?

  • who is harder suwako, mokou or flandre?

  • @bobbypie169

    Mokou or Flandre, not sure

  • @raak1010 Wow, so Mokou's hard for you? I mean, for someone of your skill, I would think she would be quite easy. Personally, after I beat her a couple times, because her attacks are very much in set patterns, I could consistently clear Extra. (Except her Last Spell. Ugh.)

    I just beat Suwako right now, and while I do admit that she's easy, most if not all of her attacks are clip-death-based. On the other hand, though Mokou's patterns might be more complicated, they are consistent.

  • @fevimaster

    I don;t know, I think my problem with Mokou comes from her non-spell rather than her spells.

  • @raak1010 I guess. I mean, her very last non-spell is just =.=;;aa

    But even then, I find Suwako's non-spells easier to clip.

  • @raak1010 The non-spells are what I find hard in the Mokou fight as well. I can capture most of her cards in card practice, but I can't seem to kick her in a regular run of the extra stage, even with bombs being allowed. It doesn't help that I fail miserably at taking down Keine.

  • @raak1010 Just imagine a fight against Mokou, Flandre and Suwako, in lunatic, with only one bomb, and all 3 use their spells lot of times and also at the same time.

    It would be a hell for you, wont you?

  • @Juliansnake1000

    And ridiculous and extremely fanmade.

  • @bobbypie169 I think Flandre's probably the hardest because of you get only four lives. I usually lose one in the stage anyway.

  • @bobbypie169 Flandre hands down

  • 8:00 Suwako Sign: Dermarcation

    Get it? Rumia's spellcard, Dermarcation, looks a lot like that...nevermind..

  • @ZXShadow1 Oh, my bad, I misread the seem. But, can we say that Kaguya is evil as well? I mean, she asking you to assasinate Fujiwara...

  • 4:26 am i the only one who get a deja-vu of Reimu from Imperishable Night?

  • A bomb,a bomb,my life for a bomb!

  • in terms of difficulty i think flandre is the easiest extra boss

  • I've noticed that in lots of stages and bosses, the danmaku shoot at you goes with the music, try to play with the tune and you'll see

  • I think Mokou is easier.

  • At last she don't have the "Red Ball Of Death"

  • @TheLich17 This game called Touhou 10~ mountain of faith

    You can search the download link on google

  • Please someone tell me what game that is and how i can play it :D

  • raak quick question im thinking of trying to beat my first extra boss who is the easiest extra boss.(only got a chance to fight 1. mokou)

  • @kurokagero

    Why only a chance to fight 1?

    Anyways, as a whole, probably Suwako.

  • @raak1010 because i get my ass kicked by the mid bosses.where i downloaded them from came with extra stages. and thanks but i need to practice kanoko she kicks my ass last boss and mid boss

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  • at 8:11, i always hated that kind of pattern

  • @umigainsborough1 This spell pattern, like almost all of her other spellcards, is actually a trick puzzle rather than an actual dodging challenge.

    Generally, players attempt to move proactively through the individual waves of patterns like this, so that their focus can stay on a single vector (through the gaps) rather than on multiple converging bullet trajectories. This run is an example of that. (continued in next post)

  • @umigainsborough1 This particular pattern, though, is slow enough for the bullets to be easily read. With this slow speed, a player simply move horizontally to align with the gaps in the waves. In fact, the highly diagonal movement and the gridlike spacing of the final waves negates any advantage from proactive vertical movement and is actually more dangerous than just moving left and right.

  • 3:19 you weren't trapped. All you need to do is calmly squeeze into the center. You actually have more time to do it than you think.

  • I wonder why her "Seven Stones and Seven Trees" spellcard remind me of Kaguya so much...

  • am i the only one who notices that at the start of every luring spell card,most player move to the left?

  • @OrangeFlamer

    People (IN AMERICA) read left to right. So yeah...

    Would be interesting to see if japanese players do the same thing.

  • @OrangeFlamer This is probably a stupid question, but which attacks or spell cards were you referring to?

  • I wish my eye was quick enough to see patterns. Gotta practice. Gotta PRACTICE!

  • I've just began to notices that pretty much EVERY Extra stage boss uses circle-based danmaku patterns for their non-spellcards sections!

  • @PatrickT22

    Koishi's last two nonspells are not circle based >_>....

    But yeah, you're right.

  • @raak1010 It sort of is, considering that the nonspell is aimed at you. It rotates on int's axis compared to where you are. Extra Stage probably use circular patterns to make sure they're not to easy, by filling the entire screen .w.

  • @PatrickT22

    Now that's nitpicking. By that logic you could make an argument that all streaming spells are circular pattern.

  • @raak1010 Circles: A Touhou player's worst enemy. Ah well, no need to continue this pointless arguement. :P

    Perhaps Koishi saw in our subconscious that we've seen lots of circular patterns in EX stage bosses, had decided to go all hipster and change the pattern to a streaming one :3

  • "Is a curse god suwako controlled. There's a doujin about that >_>"

    >doujin

    >controlled

    when you said "controlled"...

  • Doesn't anyone notice how Suwako is the only extra boss character who doesn't seem to look or seem evil at all? (Unlike Flandre, or Fujiwara)

  • @ZXShadow1 Mamizou seems pretty benevolent too...

  • @ZXShadow1 And how Fujiwara is evil?

  • @MrPatbl I never said Fujiwara was evil, I said she seems evil. (Cause of the flames and phoenix aura). Although technically the only boss in the series who is truely evil is Ustuho.

  • @Dreoncitus911 er, what? this isn't nintendo ._.

    also, that first non-spellcard is far less hellish while using marisa b power level 3.. or as i like to call it, the rape beam on steroids. one single card of the thing can get to me before i can blast her. my usual strategy is to blow up her first spell, then take her 2nd non-spell out before picking up the power-ups so i can try and bomb during her bomb, and still be left with power level 3. then i repeat with everything else.

  • this is why i stay wit activisions, not nintendo

  • @Dreoncitus911

    That doesn't even begins to make sense... in our bizarro universe!

  • @Dreoncitus911 This.... isn't Nintendo.

  • @oogabooga341 Too controversial to be Nintendo, fucking pussy's.

  • @8BitBrusselSprouts Ha! I won't argue that Nintendo are pussies, but they do make good games.

  • @oogabooga341 Never said that they made bad games, but I do think they take "family friendly" and make it "wussy conversion". I like myself some Mario, though.

  • @8BitBrusselSprouts Mario and Zelda and Pokemon, Bitches. Pokemon only because HURRRRGH CHILDHOOD 8D

  • @oogabooga341 *slaps across head*

    HOW DID I FORGET POKEMON?!

  • @8BitBrusselSprouts YOU'VE DOOMED US ALL YOU STUPID MOTHERFUCKER!! D8

  • @oogabooga341 What the fuBOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM

  • 4:40 Someone forgot to turn of the sprinkler! 

  • aaahh... Mishaguji. I don't know why I like it. Giant white snakes with red eyes that come out of the Earth. Well, that's how they look like it Gigameka's doujins. I just love them after that doujin where Suwako becomes the "chi chi no kami" (The god of breasts) and just goes to rape everybody.

    Mishaguji: OUR KING HAS RETURNED!!!

    *few scenes later*

    K-King......

    *after the end*

    That damn wind god again. -__-

  • @msh11201996

    Is the raping literal or figurative?

    Aside from that, the representation of Mishaguji is accurate. That is the representation given in Hisoutensoku

  • @raak1010 She basically goes around Gensokyo groping breasts.

  • @msh11201996 I love Gigameka's take on Suwako's history, there might a thing or two elements that were made up, but his interpretations aren't contradictory at all to the canon. And the Mishaguji's reactions are hilarious! "Th-those eyes!! We remember!"

  • why must every extra boss have a suvival spellcard in the end?^^

    ......and by the way, thats really impressive :D

  • Maybe Cave games have just broken me but this kind of looks easy, especially for an extra boss

  • @AkagenoAdol

    Never played a Cave shooter, but from a third person perspective they are harder... and less elegant too. They just kind of throw everything they have in the hope you get hit. =/

  • im wondering whos stronger kanako or suwako?

  • @MrAnonymous558 Kanako is FAR more powerful. You obviously haven't bothered to read the backstory on these characters. The backstory explains that in the past, Suwako was the god of...some place. Well, Kanako showed up to take over. Suwako used her best move.....and then Kanako effortlessly no sold it and Suwako gave up. Pwned in just one move. Kanako >>>>> Suwako.

  • @HalfMoonBlade

    im refering in THIS game not the backstory of both.

  • @HalfMoonBlade

    You are not wrong, but you're not entirely correct either. Although it is true Kanako bested Suwako, one of the reasons Kanako kept Suwako around was because she couldn't keep Mishaguji in line while Suwako could.

    It has been argued is not so much that Kanako is stronger than Suwako, but that Kanako's power are a natural counterattack to Suwako's

    But as far as what ZUN has explicitly stated, you're right.

  • @HalfMoonBlade XD I like the way you said, 'Pwned in just one move.' That was hilarious.

  • Beat Suwako about a week ago, yay for me. Though I still don't get how you could possibly call her the easiest extra boss. (I've seen you say so on your fight against Nue.)

    She still gave me a ton of trouble, especially the 4th and 6th spellcards. I do abysmal on those, even when I know there's a pattern to the 4th and that you have to be aggressive on the 6th.

    Still a super fun fight though, and I finished with a spare life. Great run as usual.

  • @LuckySmash9

    Is a matter of subjectivity. I find Suwako the easiest out of all the Ex-bosses.

  • Darn it, you made it look easy. =D

  • Suwako's last spell card looks like advanced demarcation from th06!

  • how do you do the collecting thing at the top? i can't do it on scarlet devil or perfect cherryblossom when i try.. can you help me? or is it just not implamented to those touhous?

  • @chuchu2019

    You need max power in Touhou games before MoF to do it.

    The exception is IN, where youkai (but not humans) can auto-collect anytime.

  • My fav Suwako card is Froggy Braves the Elements

  • i always wanted to know at what level you play this.so at wich?cause this look like lunatic mode.

  • @MrAnonymous558

    Cannot choose difficulty for the Extra Stage

  • @raak1010

    ah ok.

  • 4:44 my most favorite spell card of Suwako

  • @bakafairypwns

    Eh... no. The games (at least the canon ones) can only be bought legally either from the internet or personally at the Comiket.

  • @raak1010 oh... >.>

  • and is kanako a snake god or mountain god?

  • @bakafairypwns

    Mountain

  • so... is suwako a frog god or earth god? >.>

  • is this game for free? And where can i get this game?

  • @gububrubbel

    Legally, Japan.

  • @raak1010 isnt it possible to download it somewhere?

  • @gububrubbel

    It is... not strictly legal, but it is.

  • Tripple Seven spellcard!

    Anyone like 777 in casino?

  • when i was fighting with her she kill me about 50 times but the diference between she and flandre is that sawako is incredibly cute and i cany get angry with her

  • @shaamat00 Agreed... only with me Yukari instead of Flan. Flan doesn't piss me off, she's not that hard, I've gotten further with her boss than the other extras. Yukari I barely reach her third spellcard... And Suwako I just can't time my bombs right so that tends to go to hell pretty fast too xD

  • Now I can say FUCK 10 I hated it from stage 1 and up, also I have this unknown condition where whenever I see card bullets; I want to punch the screen out, so fuck you fucking toad god

  • Hey, as someone who only watches these runs (especially yours, Raak), I have to say that Suwako might be my favorite boss. She has the most beautiful, evocative, and appropriate danmaku. You actually feel like you're fighting a goddess of water and earth... albeit a cute lil' playful one.

  • @sanityismadness

    I agree on the cute part.

  • Its good to see a human run from time to time.

    I mean.. no those perfect runs, w/o using a fucking bomb.. those make me feel like an idiot, watching this i can remember.. this game can be beaten by humans, and not only by fucking japanese machines.

    Excelent RUn bro, it took me 1 week to figure it out her danmaku patterns

  • @Donqco

    Is going to be a pity if I ever transform into one of those japanese machines/ Although I think I already achieved a pretty steep milestone in my danmaku abilities. =/

  • Theres alot of stuff thats illegal to download....but does that really stop any of us?

    ^_^

  • Her last spellcard reminds me a lot of Tewi from Imperishable Night...

    I hate her. I hate her so much. Stupid cross-crossing diagonal flower-petal danmaku...

  • WTF HAPPENED TO SPELL CARDS?!

  • is downloading these games illegal?

  • @lord1234title

    Technically... yes.

  • @raak1010 from what i heard it is illegal but you really have nothing to worry about. so i am confused.

  • @lord1234title

    Whether you have to worry or not is not the point. Strictly speaking, they are technically illegal.

  • @raak1010 well what i mean is that even though they are technically illegal if i download one of the games would i need worry about anything even though it's a japanese game.

  • @lord1234title

    Not really much to worry about. Still technically illegal though.

  • @raak1010 oh well i might download touhou 9 its looks fun and so does the other touhou games.

  • @raak1010

    Wait if downloading them are illegal... then are you getting your illegal as well? o-o

    

  • @Ushiodama

    That's for me to know and for you to not care about :v

  • @raak1010

    Eh I already know what you did. '^'

    I'll just leave it at that. '^'

  • weeee i love suwako

  • am i the only one who noticed that Suwako's shorts change between the seven colors of the rainbow during endurance spells?

  • OMG if cirno continues to freezing inocent frogs she will be in serius troubles

  • Even though 1st spellcard is easy, there's a way to make it easier.

    Just before she starts shooting on her first nonspell, quickly go to the top of the screen. Then on the 1st spellcard, she'll shoot those red and light blue lines upwards instead of downwards (well, it works for me, though)

  • 1:27 typo

  • @ArhimondEx

    Where?

  • @raak1010 MorEya's Iron Ring

  • @ArhimondEx

    I'm almost positive it's Moriya. The wiki says it is Moriya, Google says it is Moriya and Suwako name written in hiragana uses the "ri" character.

  • @raak1010 thats what i'm saying and you typed MOREYA there :3

  • @ArhimondEx

    You're right... weird, I always copy/paste spells' names from the wiki. I guess Moreya is either a typo on their part, an alternate spelling or a Moriya's conspiracy. =/

    Thanks for pointing it out anyways. I like Moriya better.

  • @raak1010 no problem :3 Suwako is my favourite character

  • i find it interesting that in the last spell card the bullets ae not crossing but actually bouncing off of each other.

  • @TheCarrShow

    I guess they can be seen as bouncing, although upon closer inspection they are crossing (both visually and in programming.

  • @raak1010 oh, I obviously know nothing of the programming, but I think its cooler if I envision them bouncing either way its a very visually appealing pattern

  • @TheCarrShow

    I agree. Although only if you're watching. If you're playing, you start feeling cross-eyed =p

  • @raak1010 well ill be a while before i get to play that one. I've yet to complete stage 5 of MoF on normal without a continue :(

  • if u think u have seen the hardest game already. touhou is even harder. :D

  • U DID ITTTTTTT lmao xD

    Still tho, amazing win 4 u xD

  • Where do I even begin on how hard that looks T_T

  • That is some really intense kero-ing. (Note the glowing frog)

  • I hate crisscross  bullets >:(

  • Mishaguji was that... Many headed Snake thing right?

  • @SiegLhein

    Eight heads if I'm not mistaken and yes, you're right. I didn't knew it when I made this vid though :p

  • All glory hypno toad

  • Kero Kero~

  • Hey... At "Spring Sign 'Jade of the Horrid River'", Why don't you move up, out of the "tube" once it starts collapsing? Seems possible to me... Never tried tho, so cant say for sure :P

  • @TheTHKwolf

    I figured out that spell a long time ago. Never tried that method, but knowing ZUN he probably engineered a horrible disaster if you try that.

  • @raak1010 This is how that spell works: for each of the bullets, a certain amount of time after the bullet stops, it detects the player's position at that instant and moves towards that position in a straight line, continuing in that direction after it passes that point. So, if you tried moving out of the tube when it started to collapse, you'd get trapped at the top of the screen.

  • @TheTHKwolf You see how each bullet goes onscreen and then stops in that spell? Well, for each of the bullets, a certain amount of time after the bullet stops, it detects the player's position at that instant and moves towards that position in a straight line, continuing in that direction after it passes that point. So, if you tried moving out of the tube when it started to collapse, you'd get trapped at the top of the screen.

  • I almost cleared extra with Marisa B glitch but died at last sec of suwa war- Native mych vs Central myth.

  • touhou- like moving around in rain without getting wet.

  • @DisturbedMooCow Then what happens when you have an umbrella?

  • generic bombing is generic.

  • O.o

  • Why'd it take me so long to figure out this song?

  • Amazing, danmaku can tell the history of the faith of a nation.

  • FFFFF AND I THOUGHT TOUHOU 1-9 WAS HARD e-e

  • My GOD I hate these Time-Out spells.

    I always die on them for some reason.

  • Kanako "ate" Suwako and then Sanae was born!

  • Nice Extra Boss O_o

  • @reo224

    Is that the kanji for ko? If so, it is strangely simple =/

    And out of pure curiosity: why "wa" and not "ga" as the particle after Suwako?

    I should stop procrastinating and start learning those kana -_-

  • So , You Practice every day?

  • @Mariozkool

    Nah, just very hard when I'm trying to get something.

  • 7:47 Nice to play you again, Rumia

  • @UpsidePickle Wasn't that also one part of Hourai Elixir? (at least on Lunatic)

  • @MorichikaRinnosuke17 I've only played EoSD. '-_-

  • @UpsidePickle I'd more or less say "Oh, fuck. He brought back hourai elixir's RRRRRGHHH bullets... *5 seconds later* ...RRRRGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHH!!!"

  • Suwako would make one hell of a sprinkler system

  • Wait a sec... there's another suwako on the second last spell card?

  • I can say with complete honesty, the more I watch you (and others) play these on hardest difficulty, I realize that with my current skill, even if I could hook the controls directly to my brain, I wouldnt last past the first few waves of non-spell at the fight start

  • i did alrite on first try on easy.. made it to sanae before continue. i started a new game.. but this time i had to use 20 continues to beat the game on easy haha. i swear.. the hitboxes are screwy. i get killed when the bullet is like 10miles away or a bullet does a boomerang effect off screen and kill me from behind.

  • i now kinda like the song haha

  • OMG,

    At 3:33 (3+3+3 = 9!) you can see a 9!

    CIRNO IS WATCHING YOU!

  • @PWAAproduction

    that's a frog, not a 9

  • @PWAAproduction just a funny coincidence.

  • alot of the attacks could have killed you or forced a spell. I dont know if suwako is mercyful, playful, or just likes to watch you sweat

  • I'm kind of disappointed though. So many excellent ideas and Suwako's final spellcard ends up being criss-crossing danmaku.

  • when im watching these extra stage bosses, i cant stop laughing, its so hard its stupid!!!

  • Ugh, the extra bosses irritate me, particularily Mokou. I spend days working out patterns for Reisen and Kaguya, and then I have two whole more bosses to create strategies for. Although that made me appreciate how fun Reisen's entire stage was, it was probably my favorite in the series. That said, good job, but for "Spring Sign 'Jade of the Horrid River'", wouldn't it be easier to go up through the bullet rows before they close in on you instead of waiting for the end?

  • Can somebody help me? I downloaded MOF version 1.00a and i can't get into extra mode

  • @Darkbeastganon2

    But you were able yo play up to Stage 6, right?

    To unlock the Extra stage, you must beat the game on Normal or higher without continuing. That or download a a score file with Extra already unlocked

  • @raak1010 Yeah, I can play up to stage 6, But I can't beat the game on normal mode

    without continuing, I can't do that in Perfect Cherry Blossom. So what do you mean by dowloading a score file with extra already unlocked?

  • @Darkbeastganon2

    means to download a file that has the game already beaten by someone

    ...who has no life

    ...like us

    ...>:D

    no offense, i like Touhou too :P

  • @chijira raak1010 already gave the file to me. in fact, i almost defeated suwako, i died on her last spell card 0_o

  • @raak1010 MoF is one of the harder ones ;P

  • @raak1010 where can i get those?