what is the best type of induction heater to get to melt (not just red hot) the following metals, copper, alum, gold, silver, and iron. (like in a crucible) so im wanting to melt the stuff in a graphite crucible and put the crucible with metals in it in induction heater.
For people who don't understand this think of this as putting your metal into a microwave it excites little particles inside and they bounce of each other, warming it like your food.
I've seen industrial induction heaters heat 1/4 x 1" bolts to orange hot in the time that it takes for the bolt to fall through the coil. Never could get them to tell me how many KW that sucker was! Beyond awesome.
My late father, a dentist, would have loved this device for melting the small quantities of gold alloy that made gold tooth restorations and fillings. Many is the time I watched him, in the 50's and 60's, with big gas bottles, lengthy hoses and the torch itself, as he melted the gold in the centrifuge. This induction coil would have saved time, trouble and been much cleaner! Your video has got me thinking! Cheers.
....what's the point, just looks dangerous....and don't get me wrong, i love fire and blowing things up just like every other guy but this just seems pointless to me
600Watts? Could you make a water heater with induction coil? And as I see there you need something much smaller because you will make steam with that not hot water :D. That is just a guess.
Could you please tell me where you got the capacitors from for this? or atleast what type of capacitor you are using? (and how many)
i am using the ZVS driver as an induction heater driver, works fine apart from the fact that after about 10 seconds my caps are on the verge of melting!
1 capacitor decided it hated life enough to blow and make loads of mess :-/.
I think those caps were Wima FKP series, maybe 5 x 0.22µF..cant remember. Now I'm using plessey KP capacitors, 14x parallel connected 0.22µF/1000Volt.
Very interesting video! I had been considering refining gold at home and wondered how the hell I would get it hot enough to melt. What exactly would it take to melt gold this way?
That's awesome. How do you convert 60hz to higher frequency, and how do you make it so it's not just a dead short that tripps the breaker? This looks like it could be fun and useful.
I was just looking at these coils and noticing how exorbitantly expensive coal is getting. Of the 20-30 smiths I know, none use this; but I need to run some numbers on electricity costs before I shift my knifesmithing heat source from coal to electric. Man, would it be nice to lose all that coal dust and smoke from my forge!
Does anyone have a link showing a schematic and list of components to build an induction heater like this? One of these would come in handy for soldering and brazing.
A word to the wise never put your ringed finger inside one of these;-)
if you ran water through a copper pipe inside of that induction heater coil, recirculated it back through a few times, how do you think it would heat water? or is there a risk with the electricity involved? I don't know a whole lot about these, but they seem quite interesting.
Well these seem complex but if you break down the major circuits and concentrate on each circuit individually them hook them all up then its not so bad! Some believe this works only ferrous metals but I have seen it work on copper, aluminum, and graphite. Would work well in chemistry so one can heat a reacting metal inside a tube without open flames and probably get more complete conversion.
Yes, indeed it heats any metallic objects. As can be seen on this video, starting at 0:27, there is copper coin to be heated bright white. Check out my other induction heater videos.
That would just melt the copper wire and could destroy the battery. Induction heating requires high frequency alternating current from an inverter, not direct current from a battery.
FBT itself is not induction heater. But it can be used as a part of system as Lmatch coil or matching transformer. U just need to rewind it..So only part that can be used is the core itself.
The coil produces an electro magnetic field. The molocules in the metal act as a resistance medium for the electro magnetic energy. As a result the metal becomes extreamly hot.
It's a little complicated. But the coils are made of copper which is a excellent conductor. When high voltages flow through the coils, the electro magnetic field causes a thermal reaction on a molecular level, to were the molecules developed their own magnetic field. They repel each other. As a result the object becomes white hot very quickly. The reason the coils them selves dont become hot, is the energy flowing through them is transferred to the object through high em frequencies.
Random thought, but it seems like something like this would be ideal for someone who forges knives and doesn't want to deal with the hassle of a charcoal forge.
Sorry i dont understand.. You have somekind of psu giving 240Volts output? Induction heaters has frequencies in range of 5...500kHz. Lower frequencies are used for deeper heating effect and big workpieces and higher frequencies for small workpieces and surface heating.
Its not about voltage but power. But ok, at least 12Volts is required. Yes, it is possible to heat water indirectly (water is inside of metallic bowl). You never heard about induction cooktops? Its the same thing.
Yup. Then just start up a small charcoal fire in your forge & let it burn down, temper the knife in the coals (if you used induction to harden). Or heat, quench, let it sit in the coals till they burn out.
Only thing I cant see using induction for is tempering; takes a few hours, just do above.
Yes, i have plans. How can i make these without plans anyway?:) It is mostly like those basic sstc's - signal generator+gatedriver+halfbridge power stage using small 100Amp IGBT brick.
hi, very impressive,;
please can you point me to a useful circuit diagram vor en inverter that creats H frequencies ?
or point me to any site taht shows how to build one furnace !! i really need it at home to join things and build structures !!!!
thats for any help i have many capacitors, but i dont know how to make a frequency generator,
is it possible to converts the grid 220acv 60hz to a low voltage but high frequency out put ?
tyreza79 2 weeks ago
but how do you make it?
dillinger9999 1 month ago
Does the ball bearing return to a shiny ball when it cools?
potroastmaster 2 months ago
I love aphex twin!
RubieKitty 2 months ago
GOOD FOR MAKING NEW DIAMONDS!
ZEINSTAIN2011 4 months ago
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You don't have a schematic diagram for one of you induction heater/melte pleace if you do can you email It r.3.dhat@hotmail.com
lik3wan 5 months ago
I want one.
RamsesReturns 5 months ago
The person must be in pain....he's melting one of his nuts.
randomvideowatcher 5 months ago
what is the best type of induction heater to get to melt (not just red hot) the following metals, copper, alum, gold, silver, and iron. (like in a crucible) so im wanting to melt the stuff in a graphite crucible and put the crucible with metals in it in induction heater.
turgeo2004 6 months ago
For people who don't understand this think of this as putting your metal into a microwave it excites little particles inside and they bounce of each other, warming it like your food.
howtoguro 7 months ago
yess indeed how do you make it....(missleading videos are the worst part of youtube)
jjppmm29 7 months ago
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PLEASE SENT ME THE SCHEMATIC AND ANY OTHER NEEDS INFORMATION ( SORRY FOR MY BAD ENGLISH)
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thank you...
Teslavirus22 8 months ago
What song is this. I like it!
raininginhell 8 months ago
isnt it enough hot to melt the metals?
leandeganis 8 months ago
looking for plans to build one where can i get plans from ie free?
eloid777 8 months ago
does the metal inside becomes magnetized too?
ActiveStorage 10 months ago
what would happen if i would put a superconducter in there?
uut0 10 months ago
yeah yeah please share the schema pleas3e
Arjoonmoal 10 months ago
I've seen industrial induction heaters heat 1/4 x 1" bolts to orange hot in the time that it takes for the bolt to fall through the coil. Never could get them to tell me how many KW that sucker was! Beyond awesome.
goatgodagain 10 months ago
I love Aphex Twin
Usethebanana 11 months ago
what did you heat up at the end?
jpmorgan187 11 months ago
I make hot chocolate like this
soymilk135799 1 year ago
My late father, a dentist, would have loved this device for melting the small quantities of gold alloy that made gold tooth restorations and fillings. Many is the time I watched him, in the 50's and 60's, with big gas bottles, lengthy hoses and the torch itself, as he melted the gold in the centrifuge. This induction coil would have saved time, trouble and been much cleaner! Your video has got me thinking! Cheers.
peteacher52 1 year ago
@peteacher52 Yup. Science is simply amazing. Just for the sake of it it would be awesome to live forever.
hardstyle905 1 year ago
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HorizonDelta 1 year ago
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Hello! Nice job! Is your schematic diagram a secret one, or could you please share that with me? (:
CsaptukEst 1 year ago
Hello! Nice job! Is your schematic diagram a secret one, or could you please share that with me? (:
CsaptukEst 1 year ago
nice musik lol
ventHARAS 1 year ago
i think its a cue to a puzzle we are supposed to figure out ourselves...
whats the prize ??
frank0067 1 year ago
Waw ! I'm not the only one who love AFX, forging and induction !! :-))
43932 1 year ago
I like the music. Who is it?
conclavian2000 1 year ago
@conclavian2000 Xtal by Aphex Twin
peanuts2105 1 year ago
@conclavian2000 I thought the music was really cool as well. Who was that?
themainproblem 1 year ago
should be able to melt aluminum and maybe some brass.
marieomagpie 1 year ago
Wouldn't his be dangerous since it sits out in the open without any safety guards?
TheNengChang 1 year ago
i think it is hot
WpA09 1 year ago
....what's the point, just looks dangerous....and don't get me wrong, i love fire and blowing things up just like every other guy but this just seems pointless to me
Fourteen88SoCal 1 year ago
600Watts? Could you make a water heater with induction coil? And as I see there you need something much smaller because you will make steam with that not hot water :D. That is just a guess.
deliquenme 1 year ago
@deliquenme
Water's not conductive enough.
TeravoltOrg 1 year ago
@TeravoltOrg What if you heat a pipe that circulates water?
deliquenme 1 year ago
@deliquenme
There's still no point in induction heating. Just heat the pipe resistively.
TeravoltOrg 1 year ago
@TeravoltOrg Resistively with 600W of power? I don't think so...
deliquenme 1 year ago
@deliquenme
A typical electric water heater runs at anywhere from 900 to 2500 watts.
TeravoltOrg 1 year ago
@TeravoltOrg An instant water heater runs at 2500 Watts-6000 Watts, that was my point, instant hot water at the flip of a switch with low power.
deliquenme 1 year ago
why do you call this DIY? all this video shows is you heating stuff.
ApostleRon 1 year ago
What if you tried to have sex with this?
hellsundeadarmy 1 year ago
hahaha, great! :-D
extra3Fan 1 year ago
cool!
manikase27 1 year ago
That's so HOT!
BozznoQ 1 year ago
aphex twin FTW
e39dreamBITCH 1 year ago
Holy-Terrorist:>-^=^- Cool music !
Agentoxedo07 1 year ago
oh my god my caps exploded into my face using a ZVS driver luckily i was wearing spectacles. feel sorry for my spectacles that i paid so high
Arjoonmoal 1 year ago
0:52... WOOOOW
DigiDavidex 1 year ago
whats the song name and can u please post the circuit diagram
ronwire182 1 year ago
GOOD for identifying GOLD BARS whether it is fake or genuine :D
lapulapu12345 1 year ago
one hopefull question: can i use a stereo system to power this, since HF is in the range of audio?
srm13560 1 year ago
Could you please tell me where you got the capacitors from for this? or atleast what type of capacitor you are using? (and how many)
i am using the ZVS driver as an induction heater driver, works fine apart from the fact that after about 10 seconds my caps are on the verge of melting!
1 capacitor decided it hated life enough to blow and make loads of mess :-/.
Thanks,
Hv discharge
HVdischarge 1 year ago
@HVdischarge
I think those caps were Wima FKP series, maybe 5 x 0.22µF..cant remember. Now I'm using plessey KP capacitors, 14x parallel connected 0.22µF/1000Volt.
tonskulus 1 year ago
@tonskulus Ok, Thanks.... 14!!!
maybe thats the problem, i was using 6X 0.22uF, 400VAC caps.
Maybe i will try throwing a few more caps on there.... :-/
HVdischarge 1 year ago
Very interesting video! I had been considering refining gold at home and wondered how the hell I would get it hot enough to melt. What exactly would it take to melt gold this way?
conclavian2000 1 year ago
What would the uses be for an induction heater?
DaemonAnt 1 year ago
does it liquify anything?
38828601manu 1 year ago
@38828601manu
No this one is not that powerful, check out my other induction heater videos..there is more power and almost any metal can be melted.
tonskulus 1 year ago
@tonskulus anyway it´s awsewome
38828601manu 1 year ago
Lovely music!
pastorrtom 1 year ago
That's awesome. How do you convert 60hz to higher frequency, and how do you make it so it's not just a dead short that tripps the breaker? This looks like it could be fun and useful.
redsquirrelftw 1 year ago
@redsquirrelftw
Its using inverter that converts DC to 70kHz AC. Its not even close to short circuit for this high freq.
tonskulus 1 year ago
Nice job! you should make an instructable for this... Good music too! :)
dmaas44 1 year ago
that coin looked awesome
:D
lazzi1996 1 year ago
should only label your videos DIY, if your actually showing someone how to do it themselves not you doing it yourself.
MrNachtlich 1 year ago
Olá you could send me a drawing of the circuit project so that I can make a system to heat in high frequency.
My email
Angelo8698 1 year ago
Will it work for heating water really quickly?
i have one experiment that needs to get water boiling really fast
jokukas 1 year ago
is there a tutorial somewhere on how to make one ?
tiger182281 1 year ago
would this work for forging? especially making swords?
tiger182281 1 year ago
@tiger182281 yes, there are professional versions of this.
tbsys31061 1 year ago
@tiger182281
Sure, may just require more power. 600W is not much.
tonskulus 1 year ago
I was just looking at these coils and noticing how exorbitantly expensive coal is getting. Of the 20-30 smiths I know, none use this; but I need to run some numbers on electricity costs before I shift my knifesmithing heat source from coal to electric. Man, would it be nice to lose all that coal dust and smoke from my forge!
FLswamps 1 year ago
Excellent video. what is the name of the music ?
RODALCO2007 1 year ago
@RODALCO2007 Aphex Twin - Xtal
arsesto 1 year ago
Many thanks
RODALCO2007 1 year ago
Does anyone have a link showing a schematic and list of components to build an induction heater like this? One of these would come in handy for soldering and brazing.
A word to the wise never put your ringed finger inside one of these;-)
ChilesGreen 1 year ago
Awesome! 0:55 looks like the sun is rising ;-)
Does this actually work with all metals???
0815tobey 2 years ago
No Calle, but it does mean you can heat you home
for much less than what you've been swindled out of so far.
TheTruthPusher 2 years ago
I guess this does not work for melting metals like you see in those homemade (metal melting) foundry setups..?
Calle2k 2 years ago
Well, this one has too low power but I can also make bigger ones for metal melting. Check out my other induction heater videos!
tonskulus 2 years ago
so? how the fuck do you make it? show us some scheme or something.
nice done by the way
kommodorez24 2 years ago 14
How did you make it and where did you get the parts?
GrandpaTD 2 years ago
How do we generally make different thing?
Ok, I had these parts laying around. I have lots of electronic stuff.
tonskulus 2 years ago
who do the parts holding the object inside the coils not get hot
gixer912 2 years ago
if you ran water through a copper pipe inside of that induction heater coil, recirculated it back through a few times, how do you think it would heat water? or is there a risk with the electricity involved? I don't know a whole lot about these, but they seem quite interesting.
hughheckler 2 years ago
it only works with metal, that's why it's called an induction heater. it operates on the principle of inducing a current into a metal
codex653 2 years ago 4
Best part was the penny oxydizing at 0:52
Envergure 2 years ago
i would have used tongs to drop the ball bearing at the end into a bucket of water
laurdy 2 years ago
1:38
IT'S A DRAGONBALL
Crouton351 2 years ago
hey how do you make one? because i like to have one of those.
gurnaim25 2 years ago 2
Well these seem complex but if you break down the major circuits and concentrate on each circuit individually them hook them all up then its not so bad! Some believe this works only ferrous metals but I have seen it work on copper, aluminum, and graphite. Would work well in chemistry so one can heat a reacting metal inside a tube without open flames and probably get more complete conversion.
j822bosh 2 years ago
Yes, indeed it heats any metallic objects. As can be seen on this video, starting at 0:27, there is copper coin to be heated bright white. Check out my other induction heater videos.
tonskulus 2 years ago
What happens if you put your finger in the middle? Seems like it wouldn't do much.
AlexRGravlin 2 years ago
Nothing happens.
tonskulus 2 years ago
Thought so. Seems like the electrons of metal would be more easily excitable.
AlexRGravlin 2 years ago
im thinkin bout makin one of the thingies could i just coil up some copper wire (tubeing) then hook it up 2 a car battery
juliman12 2 years ago
Yes, sure!!!! Looks like u want to melt that copper wire.
tonskulus 2 years ago
Dude, you shouldn't be allowed anywhere near wire or car batteries! lulz
spinctah 2 years ago
That would just melt the copper wire and could destroy the battery. Induction heating requires high frequency alternating current from an inverter, not direct current from a battery.
Alexselectronics 2 years ago
Do you have a schematic for this heater?
jmckittrick1 2 years ago
There are many similar schematics available on internet. I dont have schema.
tonskulus 2 years ago
Do you think you could give us an instance? Your setup is nice in that it is only .6KW but for my need the frequency is too high. Nice.
xtalgrwr 2 years ago
Check out my other induction heater videos too.
tonskulus 2 years ago
Can you make a 1200 degree one that can run on a lightweight battery or high energy capacitor?
Reason is, if you can do that then you can make a lunar forge to turn the regolith into a construction material.
hellomate639 2 years ago
i'll only be impressed if they get metal hot enough so it glows purple
438426x1 2 years ago
Check out my other videos, melting metal is pretty bright. This video shows only my very first and low powered induction heater.
tonskulus 2 years ago
I currently want to build one of these cool stuff.
Can I use a FBT? (The old ones that gives out AC)
They work in relatively higher frequencies rite?
Desmonddd2002 2 years ago
FBT itself is not induction heater. But it can be used as a part of system as Lmatch coil or matching transformer. U just need to rewind it..So only part that can be used is the core itself.
tonskulus 2 years ago
thx.
Desmonddd2002 2 years ago
the ball bearing at the end looked a bit like a cherry
laurdy 2 years ago
I don't understand. What's an LCLR circuit? I thought induction heaters used LCR circuits. Do you have 2 Inductors?
n00n0788 2 years ago
Yes, two inductors. Impedance matching coil and work coil. Zmatch coil is between inverter output and tank circuit.
tonskulus 2 years ago
How do I calculate the value of the Zmatch inductor.
Alexselectronics 2 years ago
series cap and inductor values are chosen so that it is resonant above operating frequency. Usually 1...10µF and 10....200µH range.
Its also possible to make it resonant at third harmonic of the operating freq to allow full power from power supply to the tank circuit.
tonskulus 2 years ago
what was that last thing???
dublt36909 2 years ago
15mm diam. Steel ball (from ball bearing).
tonskulus 2 years ago
how the hell is that possible the part isent touching the coil and why isent the coil redhot?
citydriver 2 years ago
The coil produces an electro magnetic field. The molocules in the metal act as a resistance medium for the electro magnetic energy. As a result the metal becomes extreamly hot.
matthewjohnmcgee 2 years ago
sounds like something out of science fiction
citydriver 2 years ago
It's a little complicated. But the coils are made of copper which is a excellent conductor. When high voltages flow through the coils, the electro magnetic field causes a thermal reaction on a molecular level, to were the molecules developed their own magnetic field. They repel each other. As a result the object becomes white hot very quickly. The reason the coils them selves dont become hot, is the energy flowing through them is transferred to the object through high em frequencies.
matthewjohnmcgee 2 years ago
Hello,
Very interesting experiment.Congratulations.What do I need to build this kind of heater ?
Thank you very much.
Florin Voda
vodasdesign 2 years ago
You need variable freq oscillator and halfbridge power stage to drive LCLR tank circuit..
tonskulus 2 years ago
Thank you for your answer.Now where can I find these parts? All the best.
Florin Voda
necrogoat 2 years ago
MMmmm... roasted nuts.
ratheads 2 years ago 2
It is a good idea to induction heat it?
HYPERmax9000 2 years ago
Awesome experiment, awesome music.
Thanks !
RODALCO2007 2 years ago
APHEX TWIN FOR THE WIN!
AFX86 2 years ago 2
Random thought, but it seems like something like this would be ideal for someone who forges knives and doesn't want to deal with the hassle of a charcoal forge.
nickp1987 2 years ago
yes, indeed. Knive factories/industrial are using induction heaters btw..
tonskulus 2 years ago
I just watched a video, and had the exact same idea. Now to work out a silent means of hammering!
venomousbird 2 years ago
hhm, i think you build your self an electric heater, and induction heater works totally different! Doesn't matter, what can oyu melt?
johnbunsenburner 2 years ago
what else did you use to build the heter, just list the things will you.
johnbunsenburner 2 years ago
well wh are you using nichrome? Is it especially good or did you choose randomly?
johnbunsenburner 2 years ago
what you have in water boilers is nichrome...?
johnbunsenburner 2 years ago
wow dam nice :)
rainmanp7 2 years ago
What are the components needed to build the circuit?
LizzyAston 2 years ago
good song
Licurgoknox 2 years ago
And how can i get the 240v from my power supply "high frequency" Or is it already, i am guessing high frequency is fairly relative.
johnbunsenburner 3 years ago
Sorry i dont understand.. You have somekind of psu giving 240Volts output? Induction heaters has frequencies in range of 5...500kHz. Lower frequencies are used for deeper heating effect and big workpieces and higher frequencies for small workpieces and surface heating.
tonskulus 3 years ago
really i want to melt aluminium wiht the heater, i have 240volts coming from "the wall" but have no clue about the frequency, wattage or the amps...
johnbunsenburner 3 years ago
Ok. Maybe you should buy commerical induction heater, check out eBay.
tonskulus 3 years ago
arent they really expensive?
johnbunsenburner 3 years ago
Can 120V work? Can it boil/heat water?
sjfperformance 3 years ago
Its not about voltage but power. But ok, at least 12Volts is required. Yes, it is possible to heat water indirectly (water is inside of metallic bowl). You never heard about induction cooktops? Its the same thing.
tonskulus 3 years ago
Is induction heating done using only DC? Or is AC used, as well?
ChrisKarr 3 years ago
Induction heating is done using highfrequency AC.
tonskulus 3 years ago
It's very high frequency AC. The phenomenons used are eddy-currents and magnetic hysterisis. Wiki them for a better explaination.
anon32016 3 years ago
Try to heat a small CO2 cartridge.
peterban1234 3 years ago
How simple is this to make. can u send me some kind of instructions to construct such an induction heater?
ford65falcon 3 years ago
wow that would be perfect for forging knives...
deathadder32 3 years ago 4
Yup. Then just start up a small charcoal fire in your forge & let it burn down, temper the knife in the coals (if you used induction to harden). Or heat, quench, let it sit in the coals till they burn out.
Only thing I cant see using induction for is tempering; takes a few hours, just do above.
Deadzo 3 years ago
or he could melt a salt to temper with the induction heater XD. but then again thats a long process XD
zephroth 2 years ago
yea and no need to burn so much coal to make one lol
tTatmosT 3 years ago
That sphere (Mouse ball im assuming) looked awsome
kydoes 3 years ago
awesome video!!!
btw whats the song?
Gunstar1986 3 years ago 2
Gunstar1986
Aphex Twin - Xtal
cornflakes002 3 years ago
our indutions header in the company has 250kw
66gfr33 3 years ago
does the coil have to be cooled?
frizspin175 3 years ago
Cooling is recommended for 100-600W powerlevels and absolutely required if >1kW. Otherwise workcoil will melt sooner or later.
tonskulus 3 years ago
smells like some aphex twin up in here
HLSDK 3 years ago 2
Cool, i mean hot... I wish i had one of those things..
Ztuibyman 4 years ago 2
Hi,
I'm a novice and want to make an induction heater like yours. How can I get the plans and components? Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks....jster
jster1963 4 years ago
do you have the plans it looks like a sstc sign wave driver lol
98209276 4 years ago
Yes, i have plans. How can i make these without plans anyway?:) It is mostly like those basic sstc's - signal generator+gatedriver+halfbridge power stage using small 100Amp IGBT brick.
tonskulus 4 years ago
that's HOT =D
mavamaarten 4 years ago
It is hot, but still too slow for heating some heavier stuff. Im working on with new setup. 4 x more power.
tonskulus 4 years ago