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  • Christians abrogate the 10 Commandments every Sunday.

  • I really enjoyed this video. I have withdrawn from the witnessess for the past two years and am very confussed. I'm not comfortable with any other church though. I would really enjoy a conversation with you.

  • @2many2remember1

    Any time mate, love a convo . I dont blam you for not wanting to go to any Church ,Toke me 20years to work out some truth .but i do know 1 thing ..Man must live,not on bread alone,but from every utterance coming forth from Jehovah's mouth. Matthew 4:4

  • So all this time I worship Christ with the wrong way?Everything done till now is just worshipping the sun god?I could as well go to Egypt... :O What is the right way then?

  • The mormon church has been lead by many prophets(they believe are prophets). Catholics do not believe and nor is the pope a prophet. He is just a person who can direct people to god

  • Greetings

    Jesus is Lord over papacy ( the body of antichrist ), death, devil, sin and hell!!!

  • Inanna/Ishtar/Astarte is a nephilim abomination and a whore!

  • @GodTowardSociety....there are pagan customs in religion, i wanted to comment on what you said, " the bible is to be messed around with" when you read any book its meant to have understanding, so does the word oh YAH. Besides being holy, its also a history book for the Children of Israel. So-called Jesus Christ ( YAHOSHUA) was born from a Hebrew woman, and they were not Christians or any religion....The truth is out there, you have to dig and research.

  • We all as followers of Jesus Christ need to look into the perfect mirror and see if our own denomination or faction of Christianity is in a direct contradiction to what Jesus taught. If it is... then that form of religion is a "whore" to Jesus. Example: War, strict dress codes, judging(condemnation type), changing the plan of salvation, preaching the coming of a worldly or world based kingdom. There are many more! Follow Christ, not man and we will do well in the sight of our Lord.

  • We all as followers of Jesus Christ need to look into the perfect mirror and see if our own denomination or faction of Christianity is in a direct contradiction to what Jesus taught. If it is... then that form of religion is a "whore" to Jesus. Example: War, strict dress codes, judging(condemnation type), changing the plan of salvation, preaching the coming of a worldly or world based kingdom. There are many more! Follow Christ, not man and we will do well in the sight of our Lord.

  • This presumably is from the Jehovah Witnesses

  • @Elfinio And where did you get the idea that we're worshiping Mary? I see no historical evidence or church doctrinal documents that we're worship the mother of God. We do however honor her big time because she special. You know that, I know that.

    Who do you worship?

  • Now, if the Catholic church a the false prophet, then which church is the true prophet

  • God the all- Glorious

  • Catholic curch is the great whore named on revelation: 17,the ones that corrupt and fornicate with governors and kings.The bible says this church is going to be destroyed at the end of days.

  • @MRSCHUTZE1 How do you know that the Catholic church is the great whore? I say it can not be the catholic church. The church doesn't have the international power that you think it has, it has no grip on government anywhere, anymore, church their followers are hated everywhere by non catholics and by virtually all governments and they are persecuted in many countries. it know this as I worked in areas where I could see all of that. The author of this video doesn't know what he's talking about.

  • @holyishischurch Read the book of Revelations besides I do not hate Catholics,they are humans like any other and for me to say I hate them would be denying Christ.

  • @GodTowardSociety The greek intiterliner is great, the niv and new jerlsem

  • @GodTowardSociety We wouldnt know who jesus or jehovha are , or how to worship with out the bible. dead sea scolls and other old scrips prove bible right.

  • @GodTowardSociety gods bible would have his name in it 6000 times like in the old tex, not remove or changed. mormon bilble has dose not gree with rest of bible and is not writen by a apolse.

  • @GodTowardSociety if we dont read the bible then what good is it? jesus and his apolsels read it and quoted it, and we are told to follow them and ther example.

    or do you whant to go back to bible bruning and crusades?

  • how about religions that back war , like natzs. they were told by ther relgues leaders that god was on ther side...

  • @jayandersons people lie all the time.

    The Christians of that time had a choice and they chose - badly in most cases. They had Bibles in their home, seems plain to me that they wanted war and liked Hitler.

  • Dumb bastard inst he

  • HELL ? Rom6.7 For he who has died has been acquitted from [his] sin.23 For the wages sin pays is death,

    ECC9.5 For the living are conscious that they will die; but as for the dead, they are conscious of nothing at all, 10 , for there is no work nor devising nor knowledge nor wisdom in She′ol (,Hell) the place to which you are going.

  • @sethsangel2 yep your right

  • ALL CHURCHES are Babylonian even the one you go to. They are man built and man run, sure the sing and speak about Jesus but it's really about the Pastor.

  • The Great Whore, or spiritual Babylon, according to the Bible, is the denominational churches. In fact, Rev 17 & 18 speak about how far the churches have falllen. Rev 18:4 commands the Elect to come out of her

    The Lord has employed satan to rule in the churches, at the start of the 8,400 day, 23 year, Grt Trib period, which began on May 21, 1988.

    The Bible refers to the churches as a kingdom of idols

    The Roman Catholics have been especially deviant. They have created their own gospel.

  • the whore of babylon is not the false prophet or the catholic church it is U.S.A.

  • the whore of babylon is the USA ?

    where do YOU LIVE ??

    arent you then not a PART OF THE WHORE ?

    :))))))

  • @AbsoluteMeyers the "whore" is the RCC, based at the Vatican, the USA and all other nations are forming the Beast - the One World Government.

  • Watch my series...Era of Spiritual Darkness...

  • I believe in something wonderful. I believe that everyone who left a comment on this video has been blessed. Your minds are busy with God.

  • JHWE bless ya*

  • Indeed, the Whore of Babylon is the false prophet - the Catholic Church. She has committed adultry with the word of God. The Whore of Babylon and the first Beast of Revelation are one of the same. The Beast is the Governmental system she has created and the Whore is indicative of her apostasy. The bible clearly suggests that they are combined as "The woman rides the beast" of Rev 17

  • Consider that Babylon is rome and the whore is Jerusalem (which also sits on 7 hills). Who killed the prophets?

  • The whore of babylon's diseased vagina reaks with the putrid musky odor of the rancid semen of her many lovers.

  • Saul - Paul - Pauline meatpuppets - lawless one(s) depart ye, I knew ye not ; nor you me. Imposters the law was given by grace why do you seek to destroy it ?

  • The whore of babylon. Yes I have met her and she's a bit nutty, but I'm told shes a good shag. I never found out personally, but hey ho and never mind. It was a good thing really, but i do wish her well even though she probably ishes me ill

  • so in a few easy words can anyone tell me that fish gurl was a whore?

  • Read the frist 10 chapters of Ezekiel then Isaiah and Jerimiah, where God clearly says who the prostitute is. He meantions EXACTLY who it is, in over 35 references. If you read your bible you can't miss it. I'm not saying the catholic church is not a paralell, but...

  • 2Tim3:16 All Scripture is inspired of God and beneficial for teaching, for reproving, for setting things straight, for disciplining in righteousness, 17 that the man of God may be fully competent, completely equipped for every good work

  • There are may who will say " Lord,Lord & God will say- Depart from me I NEVER knew You"

    Jesus said " I am the WAY, the Truth, & the LIFE

    NO ONE GETS TO THE FATHER BUT THROUGH ME" It is His life, death & resurection,He takes our sinfull lives & gives us HIS Rightousness it is by grace we are saved through faith, not of works lest any man should boast.

  • Mat7:21 Not everyone saying to me, Lord, Lord, will enter into the kingdom of the heavens, but the one doing the will of my Father who is in the heavens will. 22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and expel demons in your name, and perform many powerful works in your name? 23 And yet then I will confess to them: I never knew YOU! Get away from me, YOU workers of lawlessness

  • Only Children goes to heaven because their minds are not programmed with false idols yet

  • Ecc9:5 For the living are conscious that they will die; but as for the dead, they are conscious of nothing at all,

  • it would be regrettable if you had to die before you realise it is actually in reverse

  • YHWH in sound means == why man is man -- not an image ==but the living word --tainted in dishonesty and dishonor to what is HERE -- Life is Here -- but man is not LIFE -- man is the Graven Image that dies --the MInd -- the Mirror

  • the many are now misled in this world--not seeing what is being allowed

  • Mat15.8 This people honors me with their lips, yet their heart is far removed from me. 9 It is in vain that they keep worshiping me, because they teach commands of men as doctrines.

  • I agree with everything you say!! Keep up the good work! We are living a system full of lies, so it's good if some people try to open the eyes of others..

    pls send me a message if you post another video of this content..

  • the illuminati used the book da vinci code to make people believe that jesus had kids, they will soon make fake bones of jesus and his kids and use the news to tell people that jesus never ressurected and when the time is right they will say that a certain some1 (probably the pope) is related to jesus bloodline and have the world worship him, they want to destroy christianity, the creators of davinci code just released a film angels & demons giving people wrong idea of what illuminati reali is

  • Everythings cool. I agree.

    But i cant leave Christmas! LOL

  • "Vatican seeks to eliminate use of the divine name " "The Vatican congregation for divine worship & discipline of the sacraments sent instructions to catholic bishops conferences world wide .the step was taken "by directive "of the pope .june 29 2008 . יהוה YHWH Yahweh Yahwe Jahweh Jahwe Jave Yaehovah Jehovah are not to be use or Pronounced in sevices,hymns or prays Replace by greek word Ky'ri-os ( LORD ) .....Watchtower April,1 2009 or Google it

  • On April 1 my country was created by the Wild Beggars of the Sea.

  • therealtruth77, what makes you think the JW are a cult? i would like for you to provide proof. because every time i hear this, all i hear is about is that jw are being controlled. please provide so proof.

  • isn't that why christ came...so we wouldn't have to give offerings...so that we could have that relationship with God that christ had....so we ourselves could make the choice to be good or evil

  • cool video...i need to see more about their rituals but i know for sure christmas easter etc. are all bullshit holidays that don't mean anything to the Most High

  • Hey, I like this music (song). Who is it?

  • John Butler ,Things aren't always what they seem

  • Find a connection with you and something good and higher.. I just can't look at one religion anymore, this is why, all of them have been mixed and divided, and people seem to preach their messeges of division between other religions instead of identifying the evil that almost EVERY ancient scripture/book from all 'religions' speak about. Find out who the evil is, and then you can actually do good.. Christianity along with other major religions have been altered and changed over time.

  • PAGANS are more peaceable people then CATHOLICS !!!! think about it

    Catholic Priests are also child molesters !

    All of them are homosexual child molesters !

  • not all of them. i was never touched and i have a sweet ass. the problem is the individuals not the religion. the catholic church falling apart only solidifies the word of god. i mean, all of this was predicted. oh yeah and heres a few exclamation points !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!­!!!!!!!!!!

  • Jesus did not give us religion, man did... Jesus does save any religious group, but rather those who whom walk day by day with God.

    And what is the signs that someone is walking with the Holy Spirit.... not our theology, but rather in that Jesus' love flows through us to all.

  • Opps, I meant Jesus does NOT save any religious group.... my bad... wish they had an edit button. lol

  • Mat7:13 Go in through the narrow gate; because broad and spacious is the road leading off into destruction, and many are the ones going in through it; 14 whereas narrow is the gate and cramped the road leading off into life, and few are the ones finding it.

    15 Be on the watch for the false prophets that come to YOU in sheeps covering, but inside they are ravenous wolves. 16 By their fruits YOU will recognize them

  • Exactly, Enoch walked with God and he was the taken up to be with God. Enoch didn't have scripture misinterpreted by men, nor did he have a church building to go to, he just walked with God.

  • By the way, my previous post to in reply to ChristianNewsWatch

  • @ChristianNewsWatch didnt jesus come to the jews thus suporting them till his desiples went to every one . 1 year after his death.

  • You need Jesus,,not man made religions which all think they're right and others wrong. Seek the Lord of light and leave those worldly cults behing you. When you do find Jesus you'll be amazed.

  • You say all that as you also are involved in a religion which thinks it's path is the only right path.

    You are an Atheist as well, only, you believe in one more god than I do.

  • And what agreement does Gods temple have with idols? For we are a temple of a living God; just as God said: I shall reside among them and walk among [them], and I shall be their God, and they will be my people. 17 Therefore get out from among them, and separate yourselves, says Jehovah, and quit touching the unclean thing; and I will take YOU in.

  • the next pope after pope benedict will be the false prophet that rules with the antichrist and hes like 80 ish now so it wont be long thats what i think anyways

  • What you think is useless and so is your Protestant Theology.

    The RCC is the only True Faith.

  • Caesar Constintine changed doctrines around 313AD The persecution of Christians ended when Constantine of the West and Licinius of the East proclaimed the Edict of Milan, which established a policy of religious freedom for all. which then started changing doctrines

  • Roman Catholic Cardinal Newman admits in his book that " Temples ,incense ,oil lamps ,votive offerings, holy water, holidays (Christmas, Easter etc) and seasons of devotion ,processions blessing of the fields ,sacerdotal vestments the tonsure of priest munks and nuns .images and statues are all PAGAN ORIGIN" The Development of the Christian Religion Cardinal Newman p359

  • You didn't answer my previous question but I will give you the answer anyway....

    JWs like yourself get married and EXCHANGE RINGS right?....You guys do because I told you my girl's mom is a JW.

    Exchanging of Rings in marriage is a PAGAN CUSTOM. I guess the JWs are Pagan too and much more as I posted on your other "Lie Tubes".

    Also again....your Founder: Charles Taze Russell was into Divination. Your Cult is founded on a charlatan. The RCC was founded by Christ himself.

  • its funny you didnt answer my stuff but you ask Question instead then get upset lol

    Mat7:15 Be on the watch for the false prophets that come to YOU in sheeps covering, but inside they are ravenous wolves. 17 Likewise every good tree produces fine fruit, but every rotten tree produces worthless fruit; 19 Every tree not producing fine fruit gets cut down and thrown into the fire. 20 Really, then, by their fruits YOU will recognize those [men].

  • "Seth"...I am not upset at all. I posed this question and others before you blasted out 50 objections about the RCC.

    If you look seriously at my rebuttals you have to ask yourself how you can be part of a Cult with those beliefs. They are ridiculous and none of them are scriptural.

    Lastly, you post all these vids because you know the RCC is the True Faith why else would you do it?

    "No one beats a dead horse".

  • lol your too busy beating my horse how about you beat your own. Caesar Constintine changed doctrines around 313AD The persecution of Christians ended when Constantine of the West and Licinius of the East proclaimed the Edict of Milan, which established a policy of religious freedom for all. which then started changing doctrines Roman Catholic Cardinal Newman admits in his book that "

  • "Temples ,incense ,oil lamps ,votive offerings, holy water, holidays (Christmas, Easter etc) and seasons of devotion ,processions blessing of the fields ,sacerdotal vestments the tonsure of priest munks and nuns .images and statues ..............................­........are all PAGAN ORIGIN" The Development of the Christian Religion Cardinal Newman p359

  • "Seth"....again, you posted these anti-catholic videos first. I am responding by defending the Faith.

    You are obviously dodging my theological debate on doctrines in the JW Cult I proposed to you...instead you fire back 50 objections on the Catholic Faith.

    I guess we will just keep going in circles...have you read Newman's book cover-to-cover yourself?

    Also, were did you get the above material in your videos etc. I would like to do my own research.

    Thanks

  • Isa 42:8 I am Jehovah. That is my name; and to no one else shall I give my own glory, neither my praise to GRAVEN IMAGES..

    1JOH5:21 Little children, guard yourselves from idols.

  • I am glad that you do not worship the saints:) but please becareful. Such things as praying to the saints and praising or thanking them are forms of idolatry. Matthew 4:4, matthew 7:24-7. TrentiniGian i pray that you find the truth. God bless you and protect you all in Jesus name.

  • Saints R sons and daughters in Christ Jesus. It does nt come from promotion nor position from man, only God promotes n this can only b achieved through d baptism of the holy spirit(john 3:3, Romans 10:9)Remember that Jesus is d head and the chief cornerstone of the church n we R the body. Why den do people make statues and images of these saints? we R made perfect in Christ Jesus, if anything we should always try 2 b mor like Jesus. Let d dead bury der own dead and come follow me(matthew 8:22)

  • Of course the Roman Catholic Church has CLEAR pagan origins, just as well as Judaism, see my vids on the origin of the jewish sacred texts, which were ALSO stolen from Babylonian origins, just as well as ANY religion... There IS no right/wrong religion. ALL OF THEM are constructions of MEN, written by MEN. There IS no god. Why should intelligent people lose time discussing prehistorical fossile texts?

  • Rev4:11You are worthy, Jehovah, even our God, to receive the glory and the honor and the power, because you created all things, and because of your will they existed and were created

  • Yep.

  • Matthew 11:28, John 3:3, Romans 10:9. Sin is sin but remember Jesus died to free us from sin (REV 1:5) Those who are in christ are set free by his grace, mercy and Love, therefore there is no condemnation in christ Jesus(Romans 8:1) but love and restoration btween the relationship of man and God. Jesus does not want anyone to perish (john 10:10) Do not worship the dead saints, but the living God,it is quiteclear throughoutthe hole bible, D not be ashamed of d truth. Hebrews 4:12,Matthew 7:24-27

  • you are right he does not wish to see any of us meet eternal perdition, but there are some that look at the truth and state clearly they do not want it and thumb their nose at it.

    God loves them enough to allow them to make their own choice in freewill, and respects them loveingly enough to let them make their own dicision.

  • Heb10:26 For if we practice sin willfully after having received the accurate knowledge of the truth, there is no longer any sacrifice for sins left, 27 but [there is] a certain fearful expectation of judgment

  • of course the wicked get punished, but God still loves his creation, and if thats the course they choose then that is what will be for them.

  • The wicked punish themselves.

  • we respect the saints but we do not worship them for that is due God alone, the statue mearly remindes of of the person even jesus talked to the dead and called Abraham Father once in the course of the new testament.

  • There is salvation for everyone,to those who hear the word of God and have an open mind abt it, these people will find the truth and God will reveal himself to them for whoever calls upon the name of the Lord will be saved.The Lord shows mercy on whom he shows mercy and compassion on whom he shows compassion,Draw near tohim and he wil draw near to you. People perish with alack of knowledge, most denominations have the same bible yet have all of these man-made traditions,did God implement these?

  • I used to believe that everyone had a chance at salvation even those of other religions, (2Pet3:9)Just this year I am coming to the conclusion (from the Bible) that only the believers and followers of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ will make it to the kingdom (Mat22:14).

  • really to me its important if you belive what you are taught, and do you practice your faith, and its tenents, then do you take that out to the world everyday and live what you are taught in church.

    If you dont continue to practice it your faith slowly goes out like a fire which is not continualy stoked. feel what I am saying

  • Yes. I admit I should be practicing my faith more often, I'm an Adventist but not a really devout one. In fact there a some things I completely agree with Adventism and some things I disagree, one being the papacy being antichrist. I look at it as discrimination and offensive to others who grew up in the Catholic faith. However I'm scared to ever leave my church since they indulge the fear of burning if you don't keep the sabbath.

  • My apologies if I have offended you earlier. Like I said I need to work on my connection with God, just things in my life right now are not doing to well and I got a lot keeping me down. That in turn is keeping down my relationship with God. I won't ever lose faith but I sure need to practice it. Like I said I got nothing against catholics, as long as they accept Christ then it's all good. I'm proud of you for choosing to be with God.

  • These days there are so many atheist and humanist. I'm glad if anyone chooses to believe any religion as long as they don't fall into atheistic lies that are spread around the world.

  • I thought you said you had an eastern family? would the really hunt you down and burn you alive? that is barbaric

    we dont do that If someone leaves the catholic church we pray for their return, that God reveals to them the truth, since we belive we have the most revealation from the holy spirit, and it was the others that broke off of the roman and eastern church.

    To know the truth and then blatently turn your face to it God does not take kindly to, it is like slapping him in the face

  • They don't hunt you down and burn you, they just believe God judges people on whether or not they have kept the Sabbath and they sort of believe that your ticket to salvation is keeping the sabbath. At least that's all I get from it. That's why we're condemned if we leave the church and they do pray that you may find the truth once again but they also shun all people who leave the Adventist church so they don't act to kindly to Sunday worshipers.

  • Even one time when I mentioned to my pastor that my mom is Eastern Orthodox he stated that she could be doomed. That is what I don't like about Adventism. My girlfriend is Baptist and she goes to church on Sunday. She's a really strong devout Christian but why should she have to suffer hell fire all because she wasn't worshiping on the right day? She goes to church more than I do.

  • the sabbath is very important, but, there are other things that are worse to do, do you not also belive the sin can have differing levels of sevarity?

    who gets judged more harshly would you say, one that missed church cuz they were sick, or one that missed church cuz they are just not in the mood and want to go shopping selfishly?

    and same here about athieism. even if not christian belive in something, and dont harm others, practice charity and kindness, God will be the judge in the end

  • I agree with what you're saying. But almost all athiest I've ever met do nothing but bash people's beliefs and label Christians as fools who believe in sky fairies. They stereotype Christians too and make such remarks as "if there were no religion in the world there would be no wars." or "Religion is the root of all evil" When they go around condemning people who believe in something and have great disrespect that pinches my nerves. They're all over youtube commenting on religious videos.

  • O tell me about it, I go to collage, while most of the people there are christian, many of the philosophy professors are not and try to beat a bit of the skeptical athiest agenda into their students, the religious studies department sposored by teh pholosopy department they are all christian, on is a libberal christian , one sweedish lutheran, and one is baptist. two specialize in islam as their reserch, and the other theology in the american civil rights movment of the last century.

  • Yeah I must say that I hate it when atheist push their buttons and challenge the faith of others but then again we all go through challenges in life and we're all thrown questions at we just got to know the right answers in which we can respond. That's why it's important to be at a decent level with God and understand your beliefs otherwise you'll end up questioning your own views and doubting your own beliefs. It's sad that a lot of RC aren't so spiritual these days.

  • I'd say you're an exception but I know quite a few Catholics who don't know anything about their religious background. I had a girlfriend 4 years ago who was Catholic and all she knew was that her parents told her she's Catholic lol. It's pretty sad when you think of it. All the athiest that I know were born and raised Catholic too that is just the Catholic label, never did they ever attend Church or mass. So many young people these days neglecting truth.

  • The pope doesn't declare to be Christ.

  • Jesus is King and ruler of this world not some fallible pope. Why is it that so many people want to continue to blindly believe in this pagan filled RELIGION? The Bible says to have FAITH not in man but in God. Why do people insist on praying to dead bones and to idols? It makes NO sense. Jesus is who you pray to in order to go to the father (God) not confess your sins to man. Jesus is our Saviour not the Pope...The pope is a monarchy so therefore he wants to be a king or ruler of the world.

  • The pope is an old hag who can barley hold in his farts. You would be a fool to be seen confessing your sins and have faith in him. The pope has his staff, his pope crown, and his pope mobile. The rest of the world has got tanks, nukes, biological weapons. That old hag couldn't even gain power in a game of toy soilders, less he gain power in reality.

  • Look towards the ones who want to take Christ out of the constitution and away from the nations, who make up lies to deceive people and tear them away from the glory of God. Who spread false teachings of evolution and the big bang theory, who make a mockery of God. Look to the east to find the ones who kill in the name of their religion and their God, who countless number of times have peeled the skin off the innocent if they did not wish to convert. Look there, there is your antichrist.

  • He is respected and holds offical relations with many nations, and Vatican city is recognised by the UN so they are not without some sway on the hearts. And its not he himself we have faith in its the office he fills in behalf of christ till our beloved Jesus returns. Also he does not wear a crown anymore, pope paul gave it to the USA National Shrine of the Imaculate Conception.

  • Awesome video!

  • The translation for church should be ecclesia. Look it up. God never spoke of a brick and mortar church people. The Greek world Ecclesia does not mean church. So there never was a true church only a true gathering in Christ. Those that are called out of the mist are the true church that God speaks of. Listen to man and be in error! Great video. No arguing the wonderful truth as it stands all by itself. No erasing history either.

  • You conterdict what you just said. about the word for church, there is the church here on earth Us yea we make mistakes, but there is also the community of Heaven the perfect part of the church that which is one in God, and I assure you The first sect identified as catholic, like it or not we are the first group of christians, not some group that grew out of the 1800s in the states like the adventests, who focus soo much on the end of times that they neglect carrying out the work of God.

  • What you arguing at me for because I called the pope a hag? I was just saying that because I don't believe the papacy truly is the antichrist like many so assume. I believe the antichrist is something else, not some old guy wearing adult diapers is what I'm saying. I grew up being a Seventh day adventist and yes I agree sometimes they get too carried away with end time teaching but hey it is those times as of now. I just hate this adventist vs catholic hatred going on .

  • By the way I come from an eastern Orthodox family, the real first church of Christ. They came before Catholics did.

  • well that debate is much older then the one here, at least the orthadox are part of the apastolic sucession, That is a true church the has that gift from the holy spirit, to continue.

    I sometimes dont distinguish friend or foe when debating. but even so you called the holy father names. I assumed that you were seven day adventest because they seem to go out of their way to be anti catholic, they are not just anti catholic when doctrine comes up they are doing it every change they get.

  • I am not anti Catholic and neither am I criticizing the pope due to be being part of the Seventh day Adventist church. I just get irritated by these people who believe the pope is the antichrist and the Catholic church is the woman. I mean I assume you are a catholic but do you seriously believe that the Holy father is the antichrist and that your church is the adulteress? I personally believe the antichrist is something else. In a way I'm sticking up for you guys.

  • Doesn't matter what I call the pope, he ain't my Holy father, my Holy father is in Heaven so I don't need some guy to play that role for me. I don't dislike catholics but neither do I approve of their teachings and I believe they should modernize and become protestant. Not saying their bad people but gotta keep up with the times you know. No more of this worshiping Mary and Holy water voodoo crap.

  • O I am very much catholic. I am one that loves the learning about the cultural traditions of the faith. the polish catholics are a neat group, as with the germans. Anyway, I get insulted when people say this about us. as if its a knee jerk reaction like a little kid saying something below the belt stuff about a parent of another. just to be mean and make one cry. Like when you beat them at something, they say o o your mothers the whore of babbalon.

  • To me the anti christ is not one person but is symbolic, a priest once told me the anti christ is not a figure, but was all the world that was not part of christianity, that tried to kill it, the emperors of rome, the evil acts of the Devil, and all that actively went aganst the early church. Also that in revelation the book was based on a vison of one of the apostle johns followers, it was what was going on during their current time, back then, it is not something telling the future.

  • Hmm I see but I still believe something big is going to happen prior to the return of Christ. I get what you mean though and yes that makes perfect sense. What about Armegeddon though? How come some Catholics don't consider themselves Christians by the way? They believe in Christ therefore they would be Christians correct? Or is that distinction something created as a label for Catholics during the protestant movement?

  • we do consider ourselfs christian, catholic is just what we call ourselves universal in latin, I belive that Jesus will return with a bang just not in the verbatum way of revalation exactly. that is what I mean, Other christans that are non denomiational just call themseves christian that dont have one defined systome of christianity that dates back real far.

  • FOr all to know, before there was protestentism, there was the Eastern and western church. the Orthadox broke around the 11,000's but belived much of the same things that the Roman church did. the protestents around 15the century. Before that you have eleven centries of what was considered christianity. and not all acted well in its name on earth. But let God decide what they get, let he who has never sinned cast the first stone.

  • 2 of the 10 commandments Do not create a idol in my image ,and do not bow down to idols. Roman Catholic Cardinal Newman admits in his book that " Temples ,incense ,oil lamps ,votive offerings, holy water, holidays (Christmas, Easter etc) and seasons of devotion ,processions blessing of the fields ,sacerdotal vestments the tonsure of priest munks and nuns .images and statues ....are all PAGAN ORIGIN" The Development of the Christain Religion Cardinal Newman p359

  • Sry mate i removed your comment hear it is LordFollower

    " God has spoken to me, I have seen him, seen miracles and heard other stuff.."

  • John1:18 No man has seen God at any time Exodus33:20 And he added: You are not able to see my face, because no man may see me and yet live.

  • A religious man is a person who holds God and man in one thought at one time, at all times, who suffers harm done to others, whose greatest passion is compassion, whose greatest strength is love and defiance of despair...

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  • James 2:24 You see that a man is to be declared righteous by works, and not by faith alone.26 Indeed, as the body without spirit is dead, so also faith without works is dead.

  • how come I keep coming across people who think all the mayhem is the work of the zionists or jews? Why can't they see it is much larger than them? I'm worried that there is a deliberate intention to create hatred towards jewish people and divert the attention away from those at the top.

  • this is about the Whore of Babylon ,how Constantine in Rome put Pagan Doctrines in to the Christian Church which became the Roman Catholic Church which is Sun God Worship.nothing to do with jews

  • Well actually sethsangel that does have something to do with the jews. Rome since no later than the rule of Nero was partly controlled by talmudic-kabbalistic jewish leaders known as "baal shems". One such was "Simon the Magus" who was a sorcerer in the court of Nero in Rome. I believe he was also the real "peter" who founded the Roman Catholic(Universal)Church. This is all about ancient pagan doctrines working in alliegence with apostate judiasm which took doctrines from babylon.

  • Mate you are on too it ...2Cor 11.13 For such men are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into apostles of Christ. 14 And no wonder, for Satan himself keeps transforming himself into an angel of light. 15 It is therefore nothing great if his ministers also keep transforming themselves into ministers of righteousness. But their end shall be according to their works

  • Great job explaining it from the beginning.

  • Like it or not, the Roman church was the first church. NOt all the men that are to do the will of God do it. Some use their power to subvert followers, example a catholic book the bad popes. Some do great acts of evil in the name of a religion, they say they represent but, you can see by its tenants of faith that the person in question does not.

    you sound, seven day adventest. if that is so, know that the adventests come out of the remnatnts of millerism, who thought armagedon was near.

  • Mat24:36Concerning that day and hour nobody knows, neither the angels of the heavens nor the Son, but only the Father. 37 For just as the days of Noah were, so the presence of the Son of man will be. 38 For as they were in those days before the flood, eating and drinking, men marrying and women being given in marriage, until the day that Noah entered into the ark; 39 and they took no note until the flood came and swept them all away, so the presence of the Son of man will be.

  • while this is to be held true. I also offer to you Sethsangel, The Lord told Peter do not make unholy what the Lord has made holy. An act itself is not evil till the context is applied. The pegan influance was brought in by local customes, the way they would portray the devine, in pegan days they made the new sacred, christianity in the way they knew how to, and resembles some pegan influance.

    such as eating, it is not itself bad, but when you overeat, or be a glutton it is.

  • Wait so it's a sin to be fat?

  • Deu5:7"You must never have any other gods against my face".8 "You must not make for yourself a carved image, any form like anything that is in the heavens above or that is on the earth underneath or that is in the waters under the earth.

  • 9 You must not bow down to them or be led to serve them, because I Jehovah your God am a God exacting exclusive devotion, bringing punishment for the error of fathers upon sons and upon the third generation and upon the fourth generation, in the case of those who hate me; 10 but exercising loving-kindness toward the thousandth generation in the case of those who love me and keep my commandments.

  • Isa45:18 For this is what Jehovah has said, the Creator of the heavens, He the [true] God, the Former of the earth and the Maker of it, He the One who firmly established it, who did not create it simply for nothing, who formed it even to be inhabited: "I am Jehovah, and there is no one else

  • Ps37:10 And just a little while longer, and the wicked one will be no more;And you will certainly give attention to his place, and he will not be.11 But the meek ones themselves will possess the earth,And they will indeed find their exquisite delight in the abundance of peace

  • Ps37:29 The righteous themselves will possess the earth,And they will reside forever upon it

  • Hatred and Bigotry, even disguised as "intelligent thought," is still divisive and destructive. Please stop doing the devil's work for him.I will pray for you...

  • who you prayin for mate ? arr you like a bit of sun-god worship on a sun-day too,all roads lead to Rome (then Babylon.) i will pray for you. -OPEN YOUR EYES-IGNORANCE IS BLISS-

  • part2 Pagan Object? Catholic Object?1of2

    part3 Pagan Object? Catholic Object?2of2

    sry not Whore of Babylon revealed part2

  • just making sure cause the end of the video seems to point that direction.

    There is a religion that hasn't been touched but there's not a church that hasn't. Christianity itself hasn't been touched if you study really hard, but going to a church now a days is almost pointless cause they're wrapped up in the occult as well. You have to truly watch what people say and do in churches, the hall people are too arrogant and catholicism is just plain evil.

  • 1. Being a jehovah witness isn't the way either. Your religion is based off a lie. It wasn't founded when Christ was alive, it was founded by a baptist priest who was kicked out of his own church in the 1800's. It told about prophecies to come that never did. You claim that satan was kicked out of heaven in 1912. That's retarded since there's been wars and death since the beginning of time. Christianity is the way to go but you must study hard. Catholicism is evil, but so is jehovah's witnesses.

  • Thats the problem m8 Religion got nothing to do with God ,all Religions are base on lies i said is there a Religion thats closes to the Truth? with no pagan symbols and still preaches the good news ,its seems to be become refined not going backwards,i know all the history i never said i was a jw

  • Rev4:11 "You are worthy O Jehovah ,even our God to receive the glory and the honor and the power ,because of your will they existed and were created"

    2Cor4:4 the god of this system of things has blinded the minds of the unbelievers

  • I used to be like you. Until I opened up my eyes and saw the lies for what they are. What does the bible say about adding onto it, or using anything else as a part of the bible. Read carefully about the 144 K. The earth will die, and so will we who are still on it when this time comes. Research where your religion truly comes from.

  • i studied the Occult for years (Religion Bloodlines and Secret Societies)

  • mine is traced thru Antioch

  • and what religion do you claim

    Jewish, Muslim, Catholic, Christian, Jehovah Witness, Buddhist, Taoism, etc... which are you.

  • If i had to pick ...Jehovah Witness ,but im far from one. I've study most Religions ,theres no denying theres a creator... yhwa ... Jehovah

    i do believe Salvation / Resurrection come down to heart condition.

  • Just so you know. the Witnesses started in the 1800's from a baptist preacher who was kicked out of his church for changing the bible. Salvation is not about the heart. If you don't confess that Christ is the lord God, and believe it in your heart then you are not saved. Christ said those words exactly. Question. The witnesses (Which I use to be) believe that Satan was kicked out of heaven and the war started in 1912. Don't you think that's really stupid considerng Christ was born 2000 yrs. ago

  • M8 i said i know the history, you should know that the Revelation is about opening scrolls telling the future. the Q. is now what religion are you ? if you know the truth tell us so we can all be inlighted , do you think that Jesus is God ?