I don't know why this guy thinks this guy is such a genius, i mean isn't it the goal of science to prolong human life and isn't this the inevitable end. I mean Robert Heinlen was writing about this decades ago. Also the fact that this idea has so many detractors is ridiculous when you consider the amount of money and effort goes into medical science. I'd like to see all the detractors refuse health-care when actually faced with death, then we'd really know who's on what side.
I haven't a clue of how long it would take for scientists to rejuvenate all of the brain, but one could imagine that to do this it would take nano computers (perhaps) to achieve the level of precision that you would want --at least when figuring adding to our knowledge in proteinomics..the research in genomics alone would obviously be insufficient....This concludes my thoughts on the topic
Rejuvenating our minds in an exact way or even close should not be a problem within itself (even though there are many reasons against messing with the mind)...Still, if you're old and on your death bed due to a brain ailment then you may be for rejuvenation.
or with hybridization of one part of a genome to another may transform a cell back to a naive state, which can then be modified to serve in memory (induce dendritic changes) and so forth ).Secondly, we already 10 trillion cells per day (and have to replenish them) throughout the body. We change all of the time. We lose skin cells every day...
Also, factors 'could' be and to some extent have been added to neurons to cause changes such as dendritic spindle changes (changes which represent our memories).
To reprogram a cell you need another cell's cytosolic contents (with transcription factors). So the idea of rejuvenating the brain is not so far-fetched when I know with 100% certainty that they can already reprogram neural cells (especially in Parkinsons to make dopaminergic neurons by adding factors to precursor cells
First, you already have stem cells in the brain that may replace some types of damaged neurons, but there are limitations and these stem cells may not differentiate to all neuron types in the lab (e.g., hippocampal vs cortex neurons). is something to be excited about for next couple of decades.
I don't think it's impossible to cure the causes of aging. Someone pointed out that scientists can't do much about the brain (their example, 20 year old body with 100 year old brain). This point is debateable for two reasons --with many run-on sentences and typos:
@mutantguitarist123 That's why we must continue to advance education, Independence, and clarity of mind. It is when people can not be swayed from the good path through insight, clarity, and good reason, that attempts to do otherwise will easily rebounded.
He never mentions that this eternal youth idea depends on the development of awesome computing capacity a billion times todays super computers combined with a perfected understanding of the human body, nanotech and the ability to interfere with the human body. He is in the same camp as Ray Kurzweil - biology becomes information which we can reprogram them replace cells, organs, gene therapy, implantable devices, etc.
Wishful thinking, Aubrey. Everything is in an unavoidable continuum. Everything. And that includes we humans. Slow aging down, yes; but arrest it - forget it. We got here through a process of nature. You can't stop this process...wishful thinking if you can. I don't like this biological system anymore than anyone else, but Aubrey, just like me you'll cease to exist one day. But that's not such a bad thing - it didn't bother you before you existed.
@stevekap8 That looks like envy to me :) The longest journey starts with the smallest step. The intention and desire to made advances is all the background one needs to be a front. Rather than tossing out thoughts of hindrance and opposition that are a waste of time, it is much better to get beside and endeavor in the same direction in whatever means you think fit to advance. Those who make advances will be recognized. Focus on the goal.
I need to interject... The human brain is far more capable than you believe. If you really listen, you will hear and understand every word. The problem is that many people are too distracted to calm their busy minds and really listen to anyone or anything. I purposefully slowed down and edited this text to speech for you to be able to understand it. If you still can't understand, there is a link to the article in the sidebar and you can read it. I listen at twice this speed.
@stancruse There needs to be more resources out there to help people clarify, organize, and simply the mind, much like washing and organizing glasses, forks, spoons, so that they are both clean and orderly to quickly find and use. People need more than just telling them to "just stop and really listen"
I don't know why this guy thinks this guy is such a genius, i mean isn't it the goal of science to prolong human life and isn't this the inevitable end. I mean Robert Heinlen was writing about this decades ago. Also the fact that this idea has so many detractors is ridiculous when you consider the amount of money and effort goes into medical science. I'd like to see all the detractors refuse health-care when actually faced with death, then we'd really know who's on what side.
RyanLoveheart 5 months ago
DeGrey was right when he said that in 7 or 8 years, scientists will be able to reverse aging in mice....except it took 3 years not 8.
Kafka1479 5 months ago
I haven't a clue of how long it would take for scientists to rejuvenate all of the brain, but one could imagine that to do this it would take nano computers (perhaps) to achieve the level of precision that you would want --at least when figuring adding to our knowledge in proteinomics..the research in genomics alone would obviously be insufficient....This concludes my thoughts on the topic
ermills 1 year ago
Rejuvenating our minds in an exact way or even close should not be a problem within itself (even though there are many reasons against messing with the mind)...Still, if you're old and on your death bed due to a brain ailment then you may be for rejuvenation.
ermills 1 year ago
or with hybridization of one part of a genome to another may transform a cell back to a naive state, which can then be modified to serve in memory (induce dendritic changes) and so forth ).Secondly, we already 10 trillion cells per day (and have to replenish them) throughout the body. We change all of the time. We lose skin cells every day...
ermills 1 year ago
Also, factors 'could' be and to some extent have been added to neurons to cause changes such as dendritic spindle changes (changes which represent our memories).
To reprogram a cell you need another cell's cytosolic contents (with transcription factors). So the idea of rejuvenating the brain is not so far-fetched when I know with 100% certainty that they can already reprogram neural cells (especially in Parkinsons to make dopaminergic neurons by adding factors to precursor cells
ermills 1 year ago
First, you already have stem cells in the brain that may replace some types of damaged neurons, but there are limitations and these stem cells may not differentiate to all neuron types in the lab (e.g., hippocampal vs cortex neurons). is something to be excited about for next couple of decades.
ermills 1 year ago
I don't think it's impossible to cure the causes of aging. Someone pointed out that scientists can't do much about the brain (their example, 20 year old body with 100 year old brain). This point is debateable for two reasons --with many run-on sentences and typos:
ermills 1 year ago
I realy hope that these therapies arn't used to perpectuate class injustices, or the vile social contraol of religious organisations.
mutantguitarist123 1 year ago
@mutantguitarist123 That's why we must continue to advance education, Independence, and clarity of mind. It is when people can not be swayed from the good path through insight, clarity, and good reason, that attempts to do otherwise will easily rebounded.
IcarusFlying 1 year ago
what? how is aging a diseas? the only way to beat it is to become immortal >.>
mattbiker419 1 year ago
He never mentions that this eternal youth idea depends on the development of awesome computing capacity a billion times todays super computers combined with a perfected understanding of the human body, nanotech and the ability to interfere with the human body. He is in the same camp as Ray Kurzweil - biology becomes information which we can reprogram them replace cells, organs, gene therapy, implantable devices, etc.
n4979338 2 years ago
Wishful thinking, Aubrey. Everything is in an unavoidable continuum. Everything. And that includes we humans. Slow aging down, yes; but arrest it - forget it. We got here through a process of nature. You can't stop this process...wishful thinking if you can. I don't like this biological system anymore than anyone else, but Aubrey, just like me you'll cease to exist one day. But that's not such a bad thing - it didn't bother you before you existed.
Meshwork123 2 years ago
aubrey de grey is one of my favorite famous people.
my greatest wish is that aging will one day be cured before I die. and people like him are going to it happen!
he convinced me that aging is curable and will be stopped. and the first 1000 year old person is probly alive today.
curingaging00 2 years ago 12
"...every fucking day..."
LOL. Love that guy.
hellomate639 2 years ago 5
MAN I HATE THE WAY THET PERSON TALKS
nerds always talk this way ffs
they give anti aging a bad name
why not have this dude with long bierd talk instead
cpisretartedmuch 2 years ago
... You know this is a computer talking, right?
oddjobmj 2 years ago 5
shut ur fucking mouth idiot.
cpisretartedmuch 2 years ago
Hey, I'm not the fucking moron that thought it was a person talking...
oddjobmj 2 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
This guy doesn't have the background or teh credibility to be the front for this effort.
stevekap8 2 years ago
@stevekap8 that looks like envy to me. :) Instead of considering a front, get beside and work your own. There is enough room for everyone's path.
IcarusFlying 1 year ago
@stevekap8 That looks like envy to me :) The longest journey starts with the smallest step. The intention and desire to made advances is all the background one needs to be a front. Rather than tossing out thoughts of hindrance and opposition that are a waste of time, it is much better to get beside and endeavor in the same direction in whatever means you think fit to advance. Those who make advances will be recognized. Focus on the goal.
IcarusFlying 1 year ago
you could take some effort and read it aloud by yourself instead; i can't listen to this machine voice, i prefer to read it by myself
matyuk54 3 years ago 3
I need to interject... The human brain is far more capable than you believe. If you really listen, you will hear and understand every word. The problem is that many people are too distracted to calm their busy minds and really listen to anyone or anything. I purposefully slowed down and edited this text to speech for you to be able to understand it. If you still can't understand, there is a link to the article in the sidebar and you can read it. I listen at twice this speed.
stancruse 3 years ago 2
@stancruse There needs to be more resources out there to help people clarify, organize, and simply the mind, much like washing and organizing glasses, forks, spoons, so that they are both clean and orderly to quickly find and use. People need more than just telling them to "just stop and really listen"
IcarusFlying 1 year ago
Yeah, that's too annoying to hear all the way through....put a real voice please
Tnias13 3 years ago 2
I'll see what I can do. It's a good article though. There's a link in the sidebar to it if you're interested in reading the text.
stancruse 3 years ago
i didn't know if there was a problem with my internet connection or if that voice was artificial...
TsarNick77 3 years ago
Interesting subject, annoying voice...
VaiSaberQuem 3 years ago 2
Woah woah, slow down the text to speech, almost gibberish.
Jogeta5 3 years ago
damn u anonymous
Bzdi138 3 years ago