great songs and some great talent..but as for all that Wall of Sound crap,is highly overated. Phil Spector over-produced. there is nothing musically or sonically groundbreaking about those productons.luckily the vocals cut through, that giant wash of blur.
I hope you realize that the 'wall of sound' concept is what is responsible for most of the worlds memorable and recognizable music in recent History. So criticize carefully. Phil Spector songs may have very well been responsible for your conception...
@discoAL are you considering the fact that these songs were played on an AM radio at the time .Am radio sucked but not when phil spector made records his were "sonically" made for AM radio in a car everything he made back then sounded 1,000 times better than anyone else .people record songs phil specifically recorded songs taking AM into consideration .what you call overproduction sounded warm and full on am radio in a car or primitive record player.the wall of sound was perfect for that time
@NiggasDefyingGravity You can celebrate what a man accomplishes while disapproving of acts he commits. For example, I love Michael Jackson's music but he is a child molester and will rot in Hell.
Posters seem to lose sight of the fact that this is about music. Regardless of what Spector did or didn't do....this is great music and revolutionary sound. You should all save your hate for other for more constructive things....like linchings and hate crimes and stuff. Leave music alone
You may hate him but he produced some of the greatest songs ever.Even his christmas album was huge with the wall of sound and ronnie and the girls spectors music is practicaly the soundtrack to Goodfellas
THis music changed me forever. From 12 years old to hear this magic music who could fail to be moved by it.. The wall of sound, soul music and Otis Redding, stevie wonder etc etc.
Some one help me! I dont get hear a wall of sounds! This sounds a bit undermixed. I mean some of the vocals sounds distorted to me, please, in all seriousness some one explain what I am supposed to hear in a wall of sound! thanks
@auaiao9 Thank you, for reply. What would you consider a good example? Also, do you think my computer speakers might not be cathing it? P.S. I have pretty good comp, speakers... Thanks again!
@AroundTheWaymon I replied to someone that couldn't figure out what the wall of sound is. I think this particular tape has something to do with that, so it's not your comp or speakers.
@AroundTheWaymon it means that instead of just one or a couple of instruments in a song, that its practically an orchastra of almost every instrument coming together to produce a wall of sound.
ive been googling "Wall of Sound" and reading article after article and i still dont get what "Wall of Sound" is......................... is it the echo sound?
@GUnitIntern almost. compare the beatles' let it be (the last 30 seconds) with another song by the beatles, that isnt on the let it be lp (for example penny lane). most people dont like that style. its so overloaded.
The performance of DaDooRonRon is definitely a LipSynch job. The singer on the left wasn't even in the group when they cut the track, Phil used the Blossoms and some California singers for the background sounds meaning DeeDee in the middle wasn't in the original mix. Only Lala singing lead on the right was actually on the original release which is clearly the music playing in the video. The Ronnettes Be My Baby was a live performance at a big show for some charity...not the recorded version.
I was one of the lucky ones to have been a "teenager" during this "extrodinary" musical time! I listend to this music via a transistor radio. My parents bought a huge stereo system, I then played my records on it! OMG I DIED AND WENT TO HEAVEN! THE "SOUND" BROUGHT ME DOWN!!!!
@Roccoyyo Yea, There Was Nothing Like The "Spector" Wall Of Sound! None Of Us Knew He Was So Frigging Crazy, You would Have To Be A "Musical Genious" To Create Such A Sound! DAM, I Was So Lucky to Of been There At That Time!!
I was one of the lucky ones have been a "teenager" during this "extrodinary" musical time! I listend to this music via a transistro radio. My parents bought a huge stereo system, I then played my records on it! OMG I DIED AND WENT TO HEAVEN! THE "SOUND" BROUGHT ME DOWN!!!!
@Ilvcamusic I was also a teenager when this came out....wow the wall of sound was incredible.....since I have read about some of the musicians that were included in this sound I am even more impressed....wasn't it fun to be young at that time??? Suzi :) The stereo really made this sound wonderful...our kids will never know the thrill of that sizzling sound when you first put it on the turntable....
Big fan of Phil Spector. So just wondering.. Back then when the bands played live, did they lip-sync over a track? How else could Spector produce such a 'studio sound' in a live setting? Although The Ronettes vid at the end seemed like they were singing live?
@Brambleiah If you mean Live on *TV*, then, yes, bands would most often (but not always) lip-sync to their original recording. In an actual live performance concert venue, of course, everything would indeed be "live". But the more complex & layered the recording, the less the live performance would be technically able to sound like it. In this clip, the Crystals *are* lip-synching to the record, but the additional sounds of the TV audience give it more of a "live" quality.
@Brambleiah Yes, their vocals are live, at least on this particular show. And the the music itself also sounds a slightly different and "thinner" than what's on the original recording. In any case, there was also the practice on TV shows of having a group sing live WITH the actual music recording in the background - or simply with the vocals on the recording de-emphasized (ala "kareokee" style). :)
Best damn producer ever! Phil..I had a music company in LA for 10 years named it after Gold Star..Gold Star Productions! It was all over that studio. Records like Phil's inspired me to get into the music biz. He was always in such seclusion. Hard to meet him. This sound was reflective of him, the musicians, the studio, the production, singers and of course the brilliant songwriting! Now it really does not matter where the records are cut. Thanks Phil 4 the music.
I once tried to create a wall of sound, got a bunch of bricks and microphones, started stacking up the stuff and when it was almost ready it came crashing down and a brick hit my head, it almost killed me.
Not being able to distinguish the instruments because of reverb. Thats the point! that's why its called wall of NOISE not great musicianship. Its the producer as auter. To me it creates a great sense of excitement and joy. It is transcendent - unlike a Clapton guitar solo- which is great musicianship - you hear every note - but to me is pretty dull.
christophergenovese: I agree with you. Alot of people can't look at art without making petty remarks about stuff that has nothing to do with the art. These people don't appreciate or even understand art they are too self absorbed in their own self righteous holy than thou attitude. They can't get a life. That's why they are nothing.
@MrB17FlyingFortress They are called "shit-starters" and can be found everywhere all over youtube. They click on videos that they already know they won't like for the sole purpose of making nasty, idiotic comments designed to piss people off. It amazes me that people like that need crap to make their life complete.
@judecreek2 I think you hit the nail on the head people who cannot tell people off to their face can say whatever they want and to whomever (in their own minds) they want it's sad but true It's also a substitute for socially exceptable human interaction and I don't think it's going to get any better
I thought I was the only one who recognized idiots just wanting to bash someone,I guess it make their little Manhoods seem larger:).
Some moron got on a Crystals video and said "To bad it was produced by Phil Spector,I informed this Moron Phil WROTE Da do Ron Ron,Produced it and probably played several instruments on it.
We all know Phil was off center but Musically he was YEARS ahead of his time.
He was&is a troubled soul. Thanks Phil for your Music
Gotta love that 'Wall of Sound'! Especially with Tina Turner's 'River Deep, Mountain High'. Phil Spector was a real genius when he created that 'Wall of Sound'. Gave songs more 'power' and 'emotion'.
I cant get over Phils genius re the wall of sound.
Also forensically Phil is not guilty. I agree with the Madam BabyDoll: he and Lana were playing a weird sex power game with a gun and it all went wrong.....he should get 2, not 20 yrs.....
@RamesesB but today it's sadly different most music is todally overcompressed and has no dynamic anymore... the songs are recorded in many takes that are later cut together and sometimes an unreal sounding computermade instrumental is put over
back then they had the studio full of instrument player...
@Individuell83 yep thats the digital age now ey ive learnt those techniques just to fit in with the commercial products and the loudness war and i hate compressing my track it just feels like ruining a masterpiece! Oh and don't forget the autotune. sooner or later you'll prob be able to press a 'randomize' button and it creates a song.. how depressing!
@RamesesB lol yes :D I mean most stuff today doesn't even have indivitualism today...
a friend of mine told me that the music back then also often sounded the same
I mean sometimes the rhythms were the same but the details in the instrumental were always different different piano chords or whatever
today the most details are lost because of the compression the dynamic gets lost. Back then you had limits because of the mastering for records to make a sound louder you need to cut the rills deeper
@RamesesB and to add more bass you need broader rills so they had to a limit of the volume for the record.
But they didn't matter because people back then cared much more for good sounding music instead of compression and the knew that you can turn up the volume on an amplifier if you want the song to sound louder...
it seems like people today don't know anymore how to turn up the volume control. And on most mp3 player or amplifiers or mobilephones you have a bass and treble control or
@RamesesB an equalizer to add more bass if you want to and to compress it you have a loudness button so I don't know why music is so extremetly overcompressed. In an article I read a few days ago that the human ear sadly accepts bad sounding music and noises. And I noticed that too, when I'm mastering a song for a longer times after a time wihtout any break you think it sounds good but then if you make a break an listen 5 minutes later after your ears have "normalized" you notice that there is
So if you ever listen to bad mastered and overecompressed music it will sound good after a longer time and that's why people today don't notice that it sounds shit and unnatural becuase it isn't really realistic then it sounds like the artist is standing 4 inches away from your ears and screams into it without overdriving it's much more realistic when it sounds like the artists is standing abour 2 meters away or a little more or less... maybe someday people
@RamesesB will notice... like they would if they would listen to more natural compressed music... and maybe it will get more worst.
I mean I'm not a fan of digital music and digital mediums anyway but it's a shame that the songs already overdrive when they are put on a CD and people pay money for overdriven music
who would have done that 30 years ago?
nobody
so you're going the right way and we can just hope that you and I are not the only one :D
Phil is a very troubled individual. No doubt about that, but his music really is some of the greatest productions of all time. Still sound good today on my Ipod in 2010. Spector is definitely one of my idols when it comes to music production! He was distinguished. Who cares about accurately representing everything in the studio? Spector was one of the first to use the studio as an instrument in itself to craft a particular sound.
@DoorsBeyondDoors Spector isn't one of the greatest "he is the greatest". Besides you shouldn't call him out for production because he's an "artist" Do you have back to mono by the way?
Not interesting enough for the gossip magazines I guess... Phil. Resonated... he totally resonated himself with the times... I notice alot of songs buzz like vibrators now... this is so different. I never saw the room before. Sooo tiny! it must have been like being inside a piano. he was really thinking inside the piano.
Probably Phil realized that since he wasn't Gene Pitney—someone who could actually play multiple musical instruments, write complete brilliant songs all by himself, and then sing them in a distinctive voice—he'd have to become a monster/tyrant in the studio and exploit the work of others.
Here's one big problem with the wall of sound technique. It makes it impossible for silence to be heard. Listen to some of the greatest music, and there's variation, flow, a kind of vibration that moves you one way or another. It's a beautiful thing to utilize silence in your favor, as a musician, and produce a much better song. I mean, the wall of sound is annoying as hell. It gets old fast and begins to give you headache after a while. Besides that, it covers up all the musicianship.
"Bennett claims Spector showed her a gold coffin with a glass top in his basement, promising to kill and display her should she leave him. During Spector's reclusive period in the late 1960s, he reportedly kept his wife locked inside their mansion."
Oh Phil -- what will you come up with next you crazy kid?
The "Brill Building" music was oh so important and great. Best writers ever, they just cranked out the hits. I gotta find that entire documentary. Thanks for posting this and the credits to the orignal source!
PHIL SPECTOR WAS NO ANGEL BUT HE NEW HOW TO PRODUCE GREAT SOUND AND THE WALL OS SOUND VALIDATE'S IT SO MUCH,WHY AGRUE YOUR GOING AROUND IN CIRCLES GETTING NOWHERE.ALAN.DJ.WALES.UK
The people who post the negative comments about Spector and his craftmanship? My question is..why in the hell are you seraching his stuff on You Tube anyway? Go search for Taylor Swift or Black Eyed Peas videos. We true music fans can separate the art from the personal sh&* . Get a life.
I believe it was Chris Lowe of the Pet Shop Boys who said a really great pop song will make you feel ecstatic. This first song on here by the Crystals certainly achieves that!
Genius. But ,sad that all the talent was sorely cheated out of the millions of dollars in profits then, and over the years. Gordy did the same thing to most of his stars. They made themselves millionaires, and icons of their staff of singers. But, they couldn't have done it without the talent. They were selfish and didn't share the success and wealth. Just watch the Ronettes YouTube tapes, and listen to the awesome voice of, Darlene Love. They should be millionaires too.
I found a record: Phill's Spectre- ''Wall Of Soundalikes'', where they tried to copy the wall of sound! it's a good record but not near Phil Spector, just a fun thing!
I recall Darlene Love saying that Phil wanted his songs to be where you could hear all the instruments coming through the single speaker that most listen to records with back then. Mono speakers give a complete different sound than our more modern Stereo ones which he never made the songs for. The version here compared to the original does blend the background more, to a loud hum a some have said.
MURDERER! lulz j/k I just learned about Phil Spector in my rock an roll history class, about the wall of sound which I think is genius, and how Phil is now locked up cause he killed some chick.
This clip is an old B & W TV video recording of a lip-synced poorly recorded and reproduced poorly through the cr*p Youtube audio system. The wall of sound was produced to be played on radio, at the time was listened to through a 7 transistor mono radio with a 2-inch speaker on poor quality AM in the UK from pirate stations or Radio Luxembourg, yet the sound stood out amongst all others at the time. To hear the wall of sound properly download some of Phils Mp3s, not poor quality youtube.
There are situations where the wall of sound is the right approach and where it is plain wrong. Listening to the first example in this video - Da Doo Ron Ron, it's easy to notice that it was the wrong approach in that case. You can barely hear any presence of drums throughout the song at all. All you can basically hear through the entire song is what's the current intonation at a particular moment in a song. And their voices on top of that. :-/ That's just awful.
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I mean, that's no music - that's just hums with voices on top.
I'm sorry, but to me that sounds like crap. :-/
Although the song does have *some* rhythm present and a nice vocal melody and that's what saves it from total oblivion, so it actually sounds somewhat good.
I understand how it became so popular back then, it just sounded new and interesting. But compare it to some modern rock records, where you can crystal-clearly hear every single instrument.
Oh great so every record in the video is a live recording? Well then this video sucks, I mean what's the point of talking about and trying to present the Spector's wall of sound approach when all the songs in the video are live recordings?! *_* Pointless.
The people who post the negative comments about Spector and his craftmanship? My question is..why in the hell are you seraching his stuff on You Tube anyway? Go search for Taylor Swift or Black Eyed Peas videos. We true music fans can separate the art from the personal sh&* . Get a life.
I, for one, came here to learn more about the "wall of sound" technique that Phil Spector created. Here's the deal, most of the shitty modern pop music utilizes this technique, just on a digital basis. How dare you call everybody who disagrees with the Spector sound (myself included) a fan of "Taylor Swift or Black Eyed Peas videos." I hate all that shit, and I'd much rather listen to Jimmy Page's production techniques with Led Zeppelin. Think before you talk, asshole.
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The tawdriness of "The wall of sound" is equivalent to adding an "all you can eat" buffet to a Michelin star restaurant; it will only appeal to tasteless Americans. Phil Spector ruined a lot of good music with "the wall of sound". They should've locked him up in '69 for ruining the Beatles Let it Be.
I think the "wall of sound" sound is pretty good when you add it to the right kind of music... It would never be any good on a... let's say Bob Dylan record... It's just the wrong sound for such deep music...
Did you know that Paul McCartney remixed the "let it be" album and got rid of the wall of sound.. The version is called "let it be... naked".. google it..
Thanks for supporting my point. "All you can eat" belongs to the junk eateries which many American's (and some Australians) enjoy. It does not belong to a half decent or reputable restaurant.
If Spector had been locked up in '69 then released on Let it Be... Naked, then a few women would not have lost their lives. (Yes I mean a FEW)
The original Let it be sold millions without any politics, Phil did not use Wall of Sound on that album, I know Paul never liked Phils work on Long & winding Road but for me was the best track on the album, I can never understand Pauls reason for revisiting this album, You cannot change history, so whats the point.
The guy is a genius, whatever his wrongdoing the music stands up and always will.
The fact that it sold millions is probably also due to... that it was a Beatles record. I don't hate the album but it's probably one of my least favorite Beatles albums.. Phil did a great job with the tapes he got from those catastrophic recording sessions. But by The Beatles normal standards this album isn't the greatest... for me..
12-26-2009. Happy 70th Birthday, Phil. You have given so much to the music and entertainment industry. I know that you have had more than your share of ups and downs, but you held your head high and persevered. Many happy returns.
It's not reverb but rather a whole lot of musicians in the studio recording on the same track. Every instrument recorded would have had a few people playing the same thing over each other.
Regardless of Phil's guilt etc...the music that was produced...has put more love into this world than literally any other musical form...that I know of!
and that should always be remembered...imo the 'wall of sound' effect didn't just multiply the sounds of the intsruments/vocals but the emotions of the musicians too. The feelings in these recordings are more than tangible.
This was a documentary 1st shown in the uk in 1983.
Rockage1960 2 weeks ago
im not really ito black women, but i would make an exception for any of these women!!
1highplains 3 weeks ago
12-26-2011. He's not blue. He's just 72. Happy Birthday, Phil.
mkl62 1 month ago 2
how the fuck the you EQ all that, thats Spectors real genius right there.
theblahman 1 month ago
What a shame.
twooffour 1 month ago
I really love the ronettes - too sexy without having to strip off like the desperate singers we have now who look like hookers
teewoods 1 month ago 3
@teewoods At last! Someone who agrees with me!
WallOfSound1990 1 month ago
great songs and some great talent..but as for all that Wall of Sound crap,is highly overated. Phil Spector over-produced. there is nothing musically or sonically groundbreaking about those productons.luckily the vocals cut through, that giant wash of blur.
discoAL 2 months ago
@discoAL
I hope you realize that the 'wall of sound' concept is what is responsible for most of the worlds memorable and recognizable music in recent History. So criticize carefully. Phil Spector songs may have very well been responsible for your conception...
Appreciate the good you can't fathom
xo
SonaBaKere 2 months ago
@discoAL are you considering the fact that these songs were played on an AM radio at the time .Am radio sucked but not when phil spector made records his were "sonically" made for AM radio in a car everything he made back then sounded 1,000 times better than anyone else .people record songs phil specifically recorded songs taking AM into consideration .what you call overproduction sounded warm and full on am radio in a car or primitive record player.the wall of sound was perfect for that time
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rebelVHS 2 months ago
devin townsend uses this <3
aggbala 2 months ago
Spector's later heinousact does not detract from these 'little symphonies for the kids." Musical genius. The wall of Sound will be played forever.
musiclover9361 2 months ago 3
Be My Baby can very well be one of the few songs that sounds EVEN BETTER when played a pitch higher
zarkbot88 4 months ago
@NiggasDefyingGravity You can celebrate what a man accomplishes while disapproving of acts he commits. For example, I love Michael Jackson's music but he is a child molester and will rot in Hell.
HopkinsSam 4 months ago
Just About The Cutiest Girls Ever!!
Oh Yea, They Can Sing Too..............LaLa Brooks!!
desert3347 4 months ago
Posters seem to lose sight of the fact that this is about music. Regardless of what Spector did or didn't do....this is great music and revolutionary sound. You should all save your hate for other for more constructive things....like linchings and hate crimes and stuff. Leave music alone
squelcherood 4 months ago 2
@thechuckwillkill To bad your an ASSHOLE!. I bet you have Preparation H in 5 gallon buckets.
If you don't like this FUCK OFF no one MADE you listen to this Fucking Punk!.
2bwhiteproud 4 months ago
You may hate him but he produced some of the greatest songs ever.Even his christmas album was huge with the wall of sound and ronnie and the girls spectors music is practicaly the soundtrack to Goodfellas
evenmix1 5 months ago 2
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Filthy little jew murders decent white woman....yet we still celebrate him? Seems the kikes really do run the media!
publicanimal9 5 months ago
that's La La not Darlene...
jonnyblues51 6 months ago
they all look like ronnie
Atomicflash500 6 months ago
Wow! Thanks for posting. The doc contains the best footage of these performances on YouTube. Realy neat.
dickkirkland 6 months ago
THis music changed me forever. From 12 years old to hear this magic music who could fail to be moved by it.. The wall of sound, soul music and Otis Redding, stevie wonder etc etc.
petereuk52 7 months ago
*Mumbles* Rotten kids with their doowopwopwop music these days
jmad3000 7 months ago 6
@jmad3000 Get off my lawn! XD
mharris802000 6 months ago
"LALA" Brooks is still going Strong, She Has Had A Large Family. Saw Her On A PBS Special! I was Totally "Blown Away!! "
desert3347 7 months ago
Some one help me! I dont get hear a wall of sounds! This sounds a bit undermixed. I mean some of the vocals sounds distorted to me, please, in all seriousness some one explain what I am supposed to hear in a wall of sound! thanks
AroundTheWaymon 7 months ago
@AroundTheWaymon This isn't the best example of the wall of sound.
auaiao9 7 months ago
@auaiao9 Thank you, for reply. What would you consider a good example? Also, do you think my computer speakers might not be cathing it? P.S. I have pretty good comp, speakers... Thanks again!
AroundTheWaymon 7 months ago
@AroundTheWaymon I replied to someone that couldn't figure out what the wall of sound is. I think this particular tape has something to do with that, so it's not your comp or speakers.
auaiao9 7 months ago
@AroundTheWaymon it means that instead of just one or a couple of instruments in a song, that its practically an orchastra of almost every instrument coming together to produce a wall of sound.
iam101stacy 7 months ago
@iam101stacy Thank you! I now understand, and it makes sense! Cheers!
AroundTheWaymon 7 months ago
I love the wall of sound.
iloveoreos15 7 months ago
If I can ask, where'd this segment come froam? It's exemplary and very inormative - I've love to find it's original form. Thanks for sharing!
markallenwilsonESQ 8 months ago
If I can ask, where'd this segment come froam? It's exemplary and very imformative - I've love to find it's original form. Thanks for sharing!
markallenwilsonESQ 8 months ago
Abba also made a wall of sound which meant using 2 drummers 2-3 bass players and so forth plus a lot of multiylayered voices.
gillan5 8 months ago
@gillan5 they just stole the Spector sound, those fucking scandinavian swingers )))
tapasitos 1 month ago 2
@tapasitos Yes, but they could not fake the soul since their music was cold and without any warmth at all.
gillan5 1 month ago
@tapasitos what scandinavian singers?
M3town33 1 month ago
@M3town33 ABBA
tapasitos 1 month ago
@tapasitos Well I come from the same country as ABBA. We also gave Ace of Base, Roxette, Alice Babs among others to the world.
M3town33 1 month ago
Da Doo Ron Ron sounds like Santa Clause is coming to Town
mallpunk182 8 months ago
i wanna break him out of jail so he produce my record hahahahaha jk
ggs316 9 months ago
i wanna break him out of jail so he produce my record
ggs316 9 months ago
@ggs316 hope he rots in jail, he made a lot of womens lives miserable, truly sick person,
tiana1017 8 months ago
ive been googling "Wall of Sound" and reading article after article and i still dont get what "Wall of Sound" is......................... is it the echo sound?
GUnitIntern 9 months ago
@GUnitIntern almost. compare the beatles' let it be (the last 30 seconds) with another song by the beatles, that isnt on the let it be lp (for example penny lane). most people dont like that style. its so overloaded.
tjhghghjh 9 months ago
Really interesting :)
helenlloydmusicuk 9 months ago
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2lovs4music 9 months ago
those dancers on they do run run are so awesome!!!
intheekeyofcrime 9 months ago
much better than river deep -a song to move to
juror169 9 months ago
i dont get it... im confused
y890x 10 months ago
Yeah his name was PHIL!!
Rogermiler 11 months ago
The performance of DaDooRonRon is definitely a LipSynch job. The singer on the left wasn't even in the group when they cut the track, Phil used the Blossoms and some California singers for the background sounds meaning DeeDee in the middle wasn't in the original mix. Only Lala singing lead on the right was actually on the original release which is clearly the music playing in the video. The Ronnettes Be My Baby was a live performance at a big show for some charity...not the recorded version.
captaintuna45 1 year ago
I was one of the lucky ones to have been a "teenager" during this "extrodinary" musical time! I listend to this music via a transistor radio. My parents bought a huge stereo system, I then played my records on it! OMG I DIED AND WENT TO HEAVEN! THE "SOUND" BROUGHT ME DOWN!!!!
Ilvcamusic 1 year ago
@Ilvcamusic So jealous, born in 88' and I'd give ANYTHING to go back to those days.
Roccoyyo 9 months ago
@Roccoyyo Yea, There Was Nothing Like The "Spector" Wall Of Sound! None Of Us Knew He Was So Frigging Crazy, You would Have To Be A "Musical Genious" To Create Such A Sound! DAM, I Was So Lucky to Of been There At That Time!!
2lovs4music 9 months ago
I was one of the lucky ones have been a "teenager" during this "extrodinary" musical time! I listend to this music via a transistro radio. My parents bought a huge stereo system, I then played my records on it! OMG I DIED AND WENT TO HEAVEN! THE "SOUND" BROUGHT ME DOWN!!!!
Ilvcamusic 1 year ago 22
@Ilvcamusic Sorry, but I hate it when people use quotations as a replacement for italics.
RylandoMusic 7 months ago
@Ilvcamusic I was also a teenager when this came out....wow the wall of sound was incredible.....since I have read about some of the musicians that were included in this sound I am even more impressed....wasn't it fun to be young at that time??? Suzi :) The stereo really made this sound wonderful...our kids will never know the thrill of that sizzling sound when you first put it on the turntable....
TheSuziclassof64 5 months ago
Big fan of Phil Spector. So just wondering.. Back then when the bands played live, did they lip-sync over a track? How else could Spector produce such a 'studio sound' in a live setting? Although The Ronettes vid at the end seemed like they were singing live?
Brambleiah 1 year ago
@Brambleiah If you mean Live on *TV*, then, yes, bands would most often (but not always) lip-sync to their original recording. In an actual live performance concert venue, of course, everything would indeed be "live". But the more complex & layered the recording, the less the live performance would be technically able to sound like it. In this clip, the Crystals *are* lip-synching to the record, but the additional sounds of the TV audience give it more of a "live" quality.
Onneff69 1 year ago
@Onneff69 Thank you! I thought so.. I gotta say then, The Crystals - "Be My Baby" is a great performance!
Brambleiah 1 year ago
@Brambleiah It was! Only one thing, though: It's the RONETTES doing "Be My Baby" - which in this case *was* sung live! ;)
Onneff69 1 year ago
@Onneff69 Right, my mistake. The Ronettes. ..Are you sure they were singing live?
Brambleiah 1 year ago
@Brambleiah Yes, their vocals are live, at least on this particular show. And the the music itself also sounds a slightly different and "thinner" than what's on the original recording. In any case, there was also the practice on TV shows of having a group sing live WITH the actual music recording in the background - or simply with the vocals on the recording de-emphasized (ala "kareokee" style). :)
Onneff69 1 year ago
@Onneff69 Thanks! Be well.
Brambleiah 1 year ago
wall of sound was genuis...artisically and commercially...only Picasso was able to combine the two so successfully
darkdemarco 1 year ago
Best damn producer ever! Phil..I had a music company in LA for 10 years named it after Gold Star..Gold Star Productions! It was all over that studio. Records like Phil's inspired me to get into the music biz. He was always in such seclusion. Hard to meet him. This sound was reflective of him, the musicians, the studio, the production, singers and of course the brilliant songwriting! Now it really does not matter where the records are cut. Thanks Phil 4 the music.
58doggie 1 year ago
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@58doggie now you can visit him prison
juror169 9 months ago
FEFETHERE-NO PHILSPECTOR M
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FEFETHERE-NO PHILSPECTOR M
GelandnaleG 1 year ago
I once tried to create a wall of sound, got a bunch of bricks and microphones, started stacking up the stuff and when it was almost ready it came crashing down and a brick hit my head, it almost killed me.
People can't we just get along?
acmeseed 1 year ago
Not being able to distinguish the instruments because of reverb. Thats the point! that's why its called wall of NOISE not great musicianship. Its the producer as auter. To me it creates a great sense of excitement and joy. It is transcendent - unlike a Clapton guitar solo- which is great musicianship - you hear every note - but to me is pretty dull.
koptaman 1 year ago
when that chorus hits at 8:00 i get the chills. Flawless musical production
superstr0ker18 1 year ago
@superstr0ker18 that's just Ronnie working her magic ;)
MissyMagical 8 months ago
He's got to be released from jail so he can play one last show. People need to see Phil Spector
planetoftheapez 1 year ago
wall of lots of reverberation. It's too muddy, you cant say "oh listen to that bass, or the keyboards"
I mean, "be my baby" sounds nice but I can't tell what instruments are playin the background... and that sucks, specially in mono
jammmon 1 year ago
@jammmon you're blowin it buddy
DanBen514 1 year ago
wall of sounds like shit
killingspree 1 year ago
Wall of background noise
vassilischr 1 year ago
christophergenovese: I agree with you. Alot of people can't look at art without making petty remarks about stuff that has nothing to do with the art. These people don't appreciate or even understand art they are too self absorbed in their own self righteous holy than thou attitude. They can't get a life. That's why they are nothing.
MrB17FlyingFortress 1 year ago
@MrB17FlyingFortress They are called "shit-starters" and can be found everywhere all over youtube. They click on videos that they already know they won't like for the sole purpose of making nasty, idiotic comments designed to piss people off. It amazes me that people like that need crap to make their life complete.
judecreek2 1 year ago 21
@judecreek2 no, they're called trolls. And they're awesome.
cdoftx 1 year ago
@judecreek2 I think you hit the nail on the head people who cannot tell people off to their face can say whatever they want and to whomever (in their own minds) they want it's sad but true It's also a substitute for socially exceptable human interaction and I don't think it's going to get any better
elamite66 11 months ago
@judecreek2 THANK YOU!.
I thought I was the only one who recognized idiots just wanting to bash someone,I guess it make their little Manhoods seem larger:).
Some moron got on a Crystals video and said "To bad it was produced by Phil Spector,I informed this Moron Phil WROTE Da do Ron Ron,Produced it and probably played several instruments on it.
We all know Phil was off center but Musically he was YEARS ahead of his time.
He was&is a troubled soul. Thanks Phil for your Music
2bwhiteproud 10 months ago
spector was and is an Asshole
juror169 9 months ago
@judecreek2 Evidently you needed to talk about it to make your life complete, bitch.
DrJohnBecker 7 months ago
@DrJohnBecker Wow! I am properly chastised. You really told me, asshole.
judecreek2 7 months ago
@judecreek2 I know.
DrJohnBecker 7 months ago
@judecreek2 They're known as trolls
kujatanaka 5 months ago
LA county jail has more rap artists than jews... LOL
joanninna 1 year ago
Gotta love that 'Wall of Sound'! Especially with Tina Turner's 'River Deep, Mountain High'. Phil Spector was a real genius when he created that 'Wall of Sound'. Gave songs more 'power' and 'emotion'.
gor319582006 1 year ago
too bad he was crazy.
Theseventhknight 1 year ago
I cant get over Phils genius re the wall of sound.
Also forensically Phil is not guilty. I agree with the Madam BabyDoll: he and Lana were playing a weird sex power game with a gun and it all went wrong.....he should get 2, not 20 yrs.....
tinselwombat3 1 year ago
@tinselwombat3
When is he due out? by the way isn´t there a film coming out with Al Pacino playing Phil
joecc6 8 months ago
Producer's should get more credited for their work. They do as much work as the artists.
RamesesB 1 year ago
@RamesesB correction, sometimes they do more!
AccessorizeAlways 1 year ago
@AccessorizeAlways ahah yes thats what i was getting at :D
RamesesB 1 year ago
@RamesesB but today it's sadly different most music is todally overcompressed and has no dynamic anymore... the songs are recorded in many takes that are later cut together and sometimes an unreal sounding computermade instrumental is put over
back then they had the studio full of instrument player...
Individuell83 1 year ago
@Individuell83 yep thats the digital age now ey ive learnt those techniques just to fit in with the commercial products and the loudness war and i hate compressing my track it just feels like ruining a masterpiece! Oh and don't forget the autotune. sooner or later you'll prob be able to press a 'randomize' button and it creates a song.. how depressing!
RamesesB 1 year ago
@RamesesB lol yes :D I mean most stuff today doesn't even have indivitualism today...
a friend of mine told me that the music back then also often sounded the same
I mean sometimes the rhythms were the same but the details in the instrumental were always different different piano chords or whatever
today the most details are lost because of the compression the dynamic gets lost. Back then you had limits because of the mastering for records to make a sound louder you need to cut the rills deeper
Individuell83 1 year ago
@RamesesB and to add more bass you need broader rills so they had to a limit of the volume for the record.
But they didn't matter because people back then cared much more for good sounding music instead of compression and the knew that you can turn up the volume on an amplifier if you want the song to sound louder...
it seems like people today don't know anymore how to turn up the volume control. And on most mp3 player or amplifiers or mobilephones you have a bass and treble control or
Individuell83 1 year ago
@RamesesB an equalizer to add more bass if you want to and to compress it you have a loudness button so I don't know why music is so extremetly overcompressed. In an article I read a few days ago that the human ear sadly accepts bad sounding music and noises. And I noticed that too, when I'm mastering a song for a longer times after a time wihtout any break you think it sounds good but then if you make a break an listen 5 minutes later after your ears have "normalized" you notice that there is
Individuell83 1 year ago
@RamesesB some treble or bass lost.
So if you ever listen to bad mastered and overecompressed music it will sound good after a longer time and that's why people today don't notice that it sounds shit and unnatural becuase it isn't really realistic then it sounds like the artist is standing 4 inches away from your ears and screams into it without overdriving it's much more realistic when it sounds like the artists is standing abour 2 meters away or a little more or less... maybe someday people
Individuell83 1 year ago
@RamesesB will notice... like they would if they would listen to more natural compressed music... and maybe it will get more worst.
I mean I'm not a fan of digital music and digital mediums anyway but it's a shame that the songs already overdrive when they are put on a CD and people pay money for overdriven music
who would have done that 30 years ago?
nobody
so you're going the right way and we can just hope that you and I are not the only one :D
peace
Individuell83 1 year ago
@Individuell83 have any of yall listened to the chillwave stuff thats coming out? its very similar to his sound by modern standards
imamrocknroll 1 year ago
@imamrocknroll oh okay
I will check out
do you know a good example?
Individuell83 1 year ago
Phil Spector is a genius.
FijneWIET 1 year ago
Phil is a very troubled individual. No doubt about that, but his music really is some of the greatest productions of all time. Still sound good today on my Ipod in 2010. Spector is definitely one of my idols when it comes to music production! He was distinguished. Who cares about accurately representing everything in the studio? Spector was one of the first to use the studio as an instrument in itself to craft a particular sound.
DoorsBeyondDoors 1 year ago
@DoorsBeyondDoors Spector isn't one of the greatest "he is the greatest". Besides you shouldn't call him out for production because he's an "artist" Do you have back to mono by the way?
M3town3 1 year ago
When it came to producting "the wall of sound", Phil was the "needle in the haystack".
jameszr1 1 year ago
Not interesting enough for the gossip magazines I guess... Phil. Resonated... he totally resonated himself with the times... I notice alot of songs buzz like vibrators now... this is so different. I never saw the room before. Sooo tiny! it must have been like being inside a piano. he was really thinking inside the piano.
lensjockeyvideo 1 year ago
Probably Phil realized that since he wasn't Gene Pitney—someone who could actually play multiple musical instruments, write complete brilliant songs all by himself, and then sing them in a distinctive voice—he'd have to become a monster/tyrant in the studio and exploit the work of others.
sportsmediaamerica 1 year ago
Here's one big problem with the wall of sound technique. It makes it impossible for silence to be heard. Listen to some of the greatest music, and there's variation, flow, a kind of vibration that moves you one way or another. It's a beautiful thing to utilize silence in your favor, as a musician, and produce a much better song. I mean, the wall of sound is annoying as hell. It gets old fast and begins to give you headache after a while. Besides that, it covers up all the musicianship.
mussman717word 1 year ago
"Bennett claims Spector showed her a gold coffin with a glass top in his basement, promising to kill and display her should she leave him. During Spector's reclusive period in the late 1960s, he reportedly kept his wife locked inside their mansion."
Oh Phil -- what will you come up with next you crazy kid?
MrTouchShriek 1 year ago
Ronnie was an unusually good looking young lady. That's not to say the others weren't babes...
barkulator 1 year ago
The "Brill Building" music was oh so important and great. Best writers ever, they just cranked out the hits. I gotta find that entire documentary. Thanks for posting this and the credits to the orignal source!
LesbianVampireLover 1 year ago
PHIL SPECTOR WAS NO ANGEL BUT HE NEW HOW TO PRODUCE GREAT SOUND AND THE WALL OS SOUND VALIDATE'S IT SO MUCH,WHY AGRUE YOUR GOING AROUND IN CIRCLES GETTING NOWHERE.ALAN.DJ.WALES.UK
sawconfusion 1 year ago
The people who post the negative comments about Spector and his craftmanship? My question is..why in the hell are you seraching his stuff on You Tube anyway? Go search for Taylor Swift or Black Eyed Peas videos. We true music fans can separate the art from the personal sh&* . Get a life.
M3town3 1 year ago
Hard to believe real people made this music. I thought it was angels.
gardenswords 1 year ago
It's too bad that he killed that hooker...I mean actress
3690313 1 year ago
I loved the Crystals
The beat just fit the times
heartbeat3 1 year ago
La La Brooks is still HOT TODAY ! luv u La La !!!
CharlesBarry 1 year ago
I believe it was Chris Lowe of the Pet Shop Boys who said a really great pop song will make you feel ecstatic. This first song on here by the Crystals certainly achieves that!
psbfan01 1 year ago
Somebody told me that his name was Phil
Da Doo Ron Ron Ron,Da Doo Ron Ron
Somebody told me that he liked to kill
Da Doo Ron Ron Ron,Da Doo Ron Ron
Knew what he was thinking when he shot my eye
Da Doo Ron Ron Ron,Da Doo Ron Ron
Knew then and there that I was gonna die
Da Doo Ron Ron Ron, Da Doo Ron Ron
,
doglips1958 1 year ago
GOD BLESS GOLD STAR STUDIOS IN LOS ANGELES CALIFORNIA
THANK YOU
Phil Spector had it together back then
Too Bad 2/3/03 happened
and don't forgot 2/3/59 The Day the Music Died
Thank you for this wonderful listing.
TL250Rider 1 year ago
Spector was a genius.
VinylRecords60 1 year ago
He ruined The Long And Winding Road
HarveyBacktheBeatles 1 year ago
@HarveyBack - theBeatles let it be album that was released without the wall of sound is terrible.
bennykill 1 year ago
Hmm, that Morning Benders session comes off more like Sing Along with Mitch Miller than Spector. Not bad, though.
fmyou62 1 year ago
Genius. But ,sad that all the talent was sorely cheated out of the millions of dollars in profits then, and over the years. Gordy did the same thing to most of his stars. They made themselves millionaires, and icons of their staff of singers. But, they couldn't have done it without the talent. They were selfish and didn't share the success and wealth. Just watch the Ronettes YouTube tapes, and listen to the awesome voice of, Darlene Love. They should be millionaires too.
internationalgiant 1 year ago
@internationalgiant They probably are ESPECIALLY DARLENE
THEMOJOMANsince1959 1 year ago
anyone know if Teri Garr is dancing in this video? She did a lot of work as a gogo girl back then.
gottacatchemall72 1 year ago
do run run girls were lookin fly <3
iTzzEuphoriaaaaaa 1 year ago
Check out the Morning Benders "Excuses" session! They tried to follow the wall of sound and SUCCEEDED!
swim4me193 1 year ago 13
I found a record: Phill's Spectre- ''Wall Of Soundalikes'', where they tried to copy the wall of sound! it's a good record but not near Phil Spector, just a fun thing!
SugaryDoll 1 year ago
I recall Darlene Love saying that Phil wanted his songs to be where you could hear all the instruments coming through the single speaker that most listen to records with back then. Mono speakers give a complete different sound than our more modern Stereo ones which he never made the songs for. The version here compared to the original does blend the background more, to a loud hum a some have said.
bdaseaman 1 year ago
That dude is a fookin Psycho.
soupercoolguy 2 years ago
I THINK SPECTER WOULD HAVE BEEN ACQUITTED IF NOT FOR THE 'OJ" and BARETTA TRIALS
THEMOJOMANsince1959 2 years ago
Well I guess not was all lost from the OJ and Baretta trials. At least some justice came out of it.
gretscher 2 years ago
MURDERER! lulz j/k I just learned about Phil Spector in my rock an roll history class, about the wall of sound which I think is genius, and how Phil is now locked up cause he killed some chick.
FLStudio4512 2 years ago
This clip is an old B & W TV video recording of a lip-synced poorly recorded and reproduced poorly through the cr*p Youtube audio system. The wall of sound was produced to be played on radio, at the time was listened to through a 7 transistor mono radio with a 2-inch speaker on poor quality AM in the UK from pirate stations or Radio Luxembourg, yet the sound stood out amongst all others at the time. To hear the wall of sound properly download some of Phils Mp3s, not poor quality youtube.
powerstop1 2 years ago 2
There are situations where the wall of sound is the right approach and where it is plain wrong. Listening to the first example in this video - Da Doo Ron Ron, it's easy to notice that it was the wrong approach in that case. You can barely hear any presence of drums throughout the song at all. All you can basically hear through the entire song is what's the current intonation at a particular moment in a song. And their voices on top of that. :-/ That's just awful.
Veeno00 2 years ago
But that was the point: a kind of excess.
hippojuice23 2 years ago
@Veeno00 you think the wall of sound is the wrong approach for Da Doo Ron Ron? How would you have done it?
titostacos 2 years ago
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Well any damn way that actually lets you hear what is *going on* in the fucking song!!!
As it is, it just sounds like:
HUMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM,
with occasional distant drum snare in-between all the humming and some barely present voices.
Veeno00 2 years ago
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I mean, that's no music - that's just hums with voices on top.
I'm sorry, but to me that sounds like crap. :-/
Although the song does have *some* rhythm present and a nice vocal melody and that's what saves it from total oblivion, so it actually sounds somewhat good.
I understand how it became so popular back then, it just sounded new and interesting. But compare it to some modern rock records, where you can crystal-clearly hear every single instrument.
There's just no comparison.
Veeno00 2 years ago
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some* rhythm present?
Have you heard it on CD?
Nellynoodlebums 1 year ago
Veeno, be my baby is played live thats the humm you can hear.
Nellynoodlebums 1 year ago
@ Nellynoodlebums: I'm talking about Da Doo Ron Ron.
Veeno00 1 year ago
It's live from the 60's recorded of a video to you tube what do you expect?
Nellynoodlebums 1 year ago
Oh great so every record in the video is a live recording? Well then this video sucks, I mean what's the point of talking about and trying to present the Spector's wall of sound approach when all the songs in the video are live recordings?! *_* Pointless.
I take back what I said then. :-/
Veeno00 1 year ago
You should get some albums then make comments.
Nellynoodlebums 1 year ago
@titostacos I'd have done it in a chip shop with Elvis and Shakin Stevens
completelycrazed 1 year ago
go fuck yourself
chlore2004 2 years ago
The people who post the negative comments about Spector and his craftmanship? My question is..why in the hell are you seraching his stuff on You Tube anyway? Go search for Taylor Swift or Black Eyed Peas videos. We true music fans can separate the art from the personal sh&* . Get a life.
christophergenovese 2 years ago 67
@christophergenovese
Yeah, you´re right! But would you also separate that fact for example Adolf Hitler? Some critics say that he was a great artist in painting ;O)
JohnPaul0livier 1 year ago
@christophergenovese
I, for one, came here to learn more about the "wall of sound" technique that Phil Spector created. Here's the deal, most of the shitty modern pop music utilizes this technique, just on a digital basis. How dare you call everybody who disagrees with the Spector sound (myself included) a fan of "Taylor Swift or Black Eyed Peas videos." I hate all that shit, and I'd much rather listen to Jimmy Page's production techniques with Led Zeppelin. Think before you talk, asshole.
mussman717word 1 year ago
@christophergenovese
Did he invent that "Wall of sound" system? I didn't know that, and indeed he is an amazing producer. Sad to see him in jail today though. :-(
chinchonchinchon 1 year ago
@christophergenovese But I hate all music.
FlyingOverTr0ut 1 year ago
@FlyingOverTr0ut hahah good one
AleMayaOM 1 year ago
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The tawdriness of "The wall of sound" is equivalent to adding an "all you can eat" buffet to a Michelin star restaurant; it will only appeal to tasteless Americans. Phil Spector ruined a lot of good music with "the wall of sound". They should've locked him up in '69 for ruining the Beatles Let it Be.
anthonyxfgmail 2 years ago
I think the "wall of sound" sound is pretty good when you add it to the right kind of music... It would never be any good on a... let's say Bob Dylan record... It's just the wrong sound for such deep music...
Did you know that Paul McCartney remixed the "let it be" album and got rid of the wall of sound.. The version is called "let it be... naked".. google it..
PegasusFilms 2 years ago 2
@PegasusFilms
Thanks for supporting my point. "All you can eat" belongs to the junk eateries which many American's (and some Australians) enjoy. It does not belong to a half decent or reputable restaurant.
If Spector had been locked up in '69 then released on Let it Be... Naked, then a few women would not have lost their lives. (Yes I mean a FEW)
anthonyxfgmail 2 years ago
The original Let it be sold millions without any politics, Phil did not use Wall of Sound on that album, I know Paul never liked Phils work on Long & winding Road but for me was the best track on the album, I can never understand Pauls reason for revisiting this album, You cannot change history, so whats the point.
The guy is a genius, whatever his wrongdoing the music stands up and always will.
powerstop1 2 years ago
@powerstop1
The fact that it sold millions is probably also due to... that it was a Beatles record. I don't hate the album but it's probably one of my least favorite Beatles albums.. Phil did a great job with the tapes he got from those catastrophic recording sessions. But by The Beatles normal standards this album isn't the greatest... for me..
PegasusFilms 2 years ago
12-26-2009. Happy 70th Birthday, Phil. You have given so much to the music and entertainment industry. I know that you have had more than your share of ups and downs, but you held your head high and persevered. Many happy returns.
mkl62 2 years ago
sounds a bit crap and messy, to be perfectly honest
caesiume 2 years ago
It's not reverb but rather a whole lot of musicians in the studio recording on the same track. Every instrument recorded would have had a few people playing the same thing over each other.
TrafficsKindaBad 2 years ago
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Is it just me or does Phil Spector's Wall of Sound seem to just be nothing more than a slight reverb
effect with a fancy name to throw people off?
buhubba00 2 years ago
damn grandma used to a hot bitch?
neroldrehpehs 2 years ago
Man, LaLa Brooks is just on fire on Da Doo Run Run. She was so cute as all of the gals were.
larrydh2 2 years ago
Regardless of Phil's guilt etc...the music that was produced...has put more love into this world than literally any other musical form...that I know of!
and that should always be remembered...imo the 'wall of sound' effect didn't just multiply the sounds of the intsruments/vocals but the emotions of the musicians too. The feelings in these recordings are more than tangible.
The 'wall of sound' was more than just 'sound'.
roachy333 2 years ago 19
@roachy333 Disagree. As stated in the video, Spector got the performers worn out - their personalities and emotions were thus numbed out.
JackBlair2 1 year ago
@roachy333
I see where you're coming from however,
I personally think that the surface