Personally, I love Jesus! He brings me peace & happiness. It's not easy being in love with Christ, but I don't let love leave - so if u wanna feel love all over I recommend checking him out. His name is Jesus! :) Merry Christmas everybody!
The passage on "the days of Noah" says nothing about what happened after the flood. The whole point is that the judgement was swift as it will be with the coming of the son of man. That's it.
@Templetonq How long were the days of Noah? The Bible clearly says 950 years. And no, it wasn't swift. It took 120 years for it to happen. What Bible are you reading?
@ministerfortson My point is, this passage is not about WHAT HAPPENED during the days of Noah, but how IT ENDED - suddenly and without warning. That is why the phrase "until the day" is repeated. It may have taken Noah 120 years to build the ark, but the springs burst and the rains came suddenly.
@truthseeker9261 LOL. Yeah, because the pit in Revelation 9 was opened in 70AD... all that supernatural stuff is well documented history. Next you're gonna say Christ is in the middle of the thousand year reign and this is the new heaven and earth LOL. If it is, I want no part of it.
@truthseeker9261 I forgot, I'm not allowed to laugh because... wait, that's not in the Bible. If it's funny, I'll laugh at it. FYI: I'm not a self proclaimed minister. I'm licensed and ordained on record with the state of Nevada. Looks can be deceiving. I age well.
You're reading too much into it and being TOO specific. If you read "as in the days of Noah" in context (see Lk17 and Matt 24) He's simply saying that people will be going about their normal business until the moment of judgement and will be caught out. Why else mention Noah, Lot and "the day" in one breath? What does the verse before your reference say?
@Templetonq Actually, you're taking it out of context. How is "business as usual" a sign? LOL. Are you telling me that in Jesus' time no one was eating, drinking, or getting married?
You mean the context that starts with "No one knows the day or the hour"? This theme surounds the passage on Noah in Matthew. This whole passage is not so much about the signs of the coming as the nature of the coming which will be a complete surprise (see Mt 24:36,42,44). That is why the phrase "up to the day" is used.
Luke (17:28) says it was the same in the days as Lot. What was the same? The context is clear: people were doing as usual until "the day" of judgement. Then it goes on to describe "the day" of the coming.
@MusingsOfAMoron You're 100% wrong. It says "as the days of Noah were"... so yes it refers to Noah's days. All the days of Noah were 950 years. Read Genesis if you actually plan for anyone to take you seriously.
they other day i was giving the business to some satanist, and one of them sent me a bible verse, James 4:11, speaking against your brother. i tried 2 ignore it because it came from an unbeleiver, but it stuck with me. i don't think brother murray is trying to lead anyone astray and neither are you, aren't you guys on the same team. like Matthew 12:25. anywho, i hope this isn't a bad omen, but i was the 1,666 viewer of this video.
@gretchaninoff James 4:11 does not apply to false teaching. Murray purposely teaches falsely and completely disregards what the Bible says when it doesn't fit his theory. Genesis 4:1 clearly says that Adam was Cains father and that Cain was a gift from God. Murray teaches that Genesis 4:1 is a lie and that Satan was Cain's father from Eve's adulterous affair with Satan. None of that is in the Bible.
@gretchaninoff What business were you giving my friend, you describe reaching to the ungodly as giving them their business. I would call no man my brother unless I know why Christ he speaks of, we are told to Discern Spirits whether they be of God or not.
@MusingsOfAMoron i gave 'em hell, i knew it was wrong, but i did it anyway. i call all my brothers, for all have fallen short of the glory of God, including myself. i enjoyed giving them a hard time, as they enjoy giving people that beleive in God a hard time. i know about casting pearls before swine and give not that which is holy unto dogs, i just threw a few stones. maybe i was not blessed with the spirit of discernment, i'm just the one thankful for the crumbs that fall from the table.
@gretchaninoff Neither you nor Murray have any pearls to cast before anyone lol. That's a common cult excuse for not backing doctrine with scripture, which Murray only uses when he can't show you in the Bible. Murray says he isn't a racist, yet claims that only white people have souls. He's a racist and anyone following him is a moron. Can't even think of a nice way to say how deceived his followers are and EVERYONE sees it except his followers. Even ex followers admit he's lying.
@ministerfortson what did God do, die and make you judge? ah... the self righteous, they always think they know more than everyone else, they have all the answers and hold a place, seated at the left hand of God. pastor murray is just an old country preacher, not God or the Messiah, and neither are you. i listen to all, including you, and make my own determinations, and i don't take your word for it, i go and find out 4 myself. like Matthew 7:15, athiest.
@gretchaninoff The Bible is clear that we are use to Bible for correction when people are claiming to teach the Bible and actually aren't. Maybe you should try reading it before claiming to know it. So it doesn't fall to judging or anything to do with righteousness. Pastor Murray was licensed and ordained by racist men that teach hatred. Check his site he says "Roy Gillaspie was a beloved Bible teacher" and then do a search on what Gillaspie taught. False teachers beget false teachers.
@ministerfortson i don't teach the bible, and i'm not interested in who begat who, and who screwed who. and if all i know is the 12 commandments that's good enough, the 10 on stone, and the 2 greatest. you are in no position to judge anyone, minister. all have some skeletons in their closets, mr. murray, leaders of mega-churches and politicians, how about you? if you ever get a show, i'm pretty sure they'll be someone out there looking to dig up some bones on you. may God bless u, from a heathen
@gretchaninoff You may want to check my website lol... Because right now you are making yourself sound uneducated. There are 613 laws and commandments not 12. And again, using the Bible to point out non-Biblical doctrine is not judging. Either it's Biblical or its not and Murray mixes Targums, Mormonism, and Christianity to sound like he's teaching the Bible and he's not. As far as skeletons, they don't have to dig further than my "About" page. There is a bullet point list for them. lol
@ministerfortson checked your website, we have alot of the same interests. i don't follow all of the laws in the bible, and apparently neither do you. maybe u missed it, i said commandments, not laws. maybe i am uneducated, i just know you are wrong, according to your bible, just maybe to educated to know it. you've got as many bones in your closet than i do, maybe more so, but guess what, i'll not judge you for it. your probably smarter then Jesus, just look what happened to him.
@gretchaninoff There are more than 12 commandments lol... People only refer to the first 10 and the 2 that Jesus gave. What specifically am I wrong about? Please enlighten me or do you plan to do the cowardly Murray tactic, tuck tail and run? The difference between what I've done in the past and Murray is that Murray still teaches racism, only whites have souls, and Jews are evil. I don't teach any of my wrongs as Biblical doctrine like he does. He's a false teacher and that's what they do.
@ministerfortson cowardly? right or wrong, what is there to run from, nothing to lose but time. what's the lol 4? i know of 12, do you know of more? you're wrong for judging, criticizing your brother. i've not seen all of his sermons, just a few, and at no time did i hear of any racism, but if you can point it out to me i'd be glad to check into it. there's no diff between you and murray, we've all sinned and fallen short. swaggart spoke against bakker and it came back on him, so keep talking.
@gretchaninoff There are more than 12. Start reading at Exodus 20 & keep reading. There are a lot of commandments. If you don't know the full scope of what he teaches, why are you wasting your defending someone you know very little about? I've been watching Murray for years & still do. I've just come to the realization that he mixes a little Bible with a little BS and preaches racism. Open your Bible you can see the racism. Serpent Seed is a racist doctrine. Who cares what happened to Swaggart?
@ministerfortson everyone has an opinion, i would not speak against you or brother murray, because you are beleivers. but i do speak and defend against non-beleivers and all the bs they have to say about those who do beleive in God. satanist, athiest, etc. they have just as much education as you do, fuck 'em. so if you want to call someone a moron, or uneducated, maybe you need to direct this at these people. there the ones that think you are the fool.
@gretchaninoff You are confusing opinion with what we can actually refer to by opening a book. If someone tells you something is in a book and it's not, they are lying. That's not a matter of opinion but a matter of fact. The facts are against Murray. Any man teaching that only white people have souls is no follower of Christ and no brother of mine. Any man teaching hatred for Jews or any other race is no follower of Christ and Murray teaches all those things.
@ministerfortson i guess you really don't get my point, and you know what, it really doesn't matter. this is what i'll do, mr. murray answers letters from viewers, i'll send him one, and of course if he is the racist you claim he is, his answer will prove it. if he does not reply, then you are correct. i've yet to hear him say anything racist, but if he is, to hell with him, if not, then stop judging this man, he's trying to get to the same place as you.
@gretchaninoff I get your point completely. You don't get mine. People lie and he has answered the question before, but what he teaches contradicts what comes out of his mouth. Again, you seem to not know what judging is. He admits to being taught by a racist, he admits that a racist was a beloved friend, he teaches a racist doctrine, and teaches that whites are the true Israel. There is no need for me to ask him anything when his beliefs are public information.
@gretchaninoff Like I said before, look up Roy Gillaspie and you can read all about who he was and what he believed. Then go to Arnold Murray's website and see what he says about that man. The apple doesn't fall far from the tree.
@gretchaninoff Look at any SS video on YouTube and they all preach racism and hatred. The Black Israelites teach that the white man is the offspring of Eve and Satan. Murray teaches that the Jews are offspring of Satan and refers to them as Kenites. He also teaches that whites are the real Israelites. The only thing the Black and White Israelite movements have in common is accusing the other race of being Satan's offspring. That's racism and hatred and not Biblical at all.
My goodness as I listen my fears are confirmed, for nowhere in scripture do we have an account of the sons of God after the flood corrupting the human Geno again, also they Generational names do not appear in scripture, you created the link not scripture. Reference to giants later on in scripture, has no linkage to beings before the flood. That generation was destroyed and the angels responsible were placed in everlasting chains as Peter 2:4 says. Please by scripture prove me wrong...
@MusingsOfAMoron Read Genesis 6:4... They were on the earth in those days and ALSO AFTER... there is the link you are looking for. You may want to keep reading before making assumptions. The name fits.
the book of enoch does not contain any lies. read it and stop repeating what everyone says. everything in Enoch is consistent with what the bible says. In fact we know from reading the bible that they read the book of enoch and accepted as scripture in their day.
Jud 1:14 And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints,
the book of enoch does not contain any lies. read it and stop repeating what everyone says. everything in Enoch is consistent with what the bible says. In fact we know from reading the bible that they read the book of enoch and accepted as scripture in their day.
Jud 1:14 And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints,
Really good video Minister Dante Fortson. We liked it so much we put it up on our website at thestrongdelusion . We also put up your articles on Pardox Brown and Joe Jordan. Once again very well done !!!
@CleverPig02 Thank you very much. I appreciate it. I do have a request. I noticed that the articles link back to the Omegazine page. Would you link to the main website page or to the article page itself? Thanks. Once again, I appreciate it.
While I only look to the Book of Enoch 1 as a historical reference I do find it interesting that it has been canonized in the Coptic Bible. Awesome teaching brother Dante.
The book of Enoch is full of lies, I cant believe you would endorse it. 1 lie is 1 lie to many. The word says if anyone adds or subtracts to the scriptures, the will be punished. There are several, SEVERAL lies and contradictions in Enoch. Again my friend, The Lord is about truth, not half truths, fairy tales and lies.
1 LIE IS 1 LIE TO MANY. YHWH is not the author of confusion, Please, dont try to tell me Enoch is credible its not.
@Pjaynes781 I never endorse Enoch as scripture, only a historical reference. Maybe you should familirize yourself with what I teach before jumping to conclusions. ALL of history is full of lies, but I doubt that you attend school board meetings to point out that Columbus "discovered" a continent that already contained people. That's a huge lie, but we use it as historical reference and weed out what's true from what's not. Act 17:11 is what I always teach. Enoch is history not scripture.
@ministerfortson Thats actually not true, I'm very involved in the lives of not only my family but the families of my community. Your absolutely right, The "Columbus Lie" is one of the biggest lies I know of. I am "Somewhat" familiar with what you teach, I was informed by someone that you support "Enoch" as scripture, if you dont, cool. I do apologize, your right, I should have came right to you first. My bad. I am familiar with your work, when I heard your were an "Enoch" guy I gasped. Sorry
@Pjaynes781 That's how rumors get started. I'm always clear that Enoch is not scripture. There are over 200 hours of audio of me speaking on various subjects, whether its me interviewing someone else or them interviewing me. At no time will you find me presenting Enoch as anything other than an important historical reference. I'm definitely not an "Enoch Guy" as you put it. LOL.
@ministerfortson I personally don't consider Enoch inspired, but I do realize that people can make strong arguments for being inspired. Jude directly quoted it, along with Peter, and even our Messiah used it and called it "Scripture."
Whether that makes it "inspired," I don't know, but it does show that it is very useful for understanding history, and by reappearing after a long disappearance, it does just what it says, as it says immediately it was written for a "remote generation yet to come."
@Pjaynes781 "not the author of confusion?" I am not going to argue that point but for me personally I have always been frustrated reading the bible due to all of the riddles and how at church most sermons are the reading of a scripture then 20 minutes dissecting each word to understand it. The fact so many "interpretations" vary makes me wish scripture was straight forward. Who/what is the great "Whore" in the bible? The Vatican? The USA? Feel me?
@ljrow49 Read it in Hebrew and Greek. Get a Strong's. Everything is very clear. You'll find that most church prefer tradition over what it actually says. Do some research on the word fornication and you'll see one of the many areas that those in church are falsely teaching. Once you find that one little thing out, ask yourself why we don't define pornography as "premarital sex". It will all make sense if you start to research on your own.
@ljrow49 Yes, I feel ya. Just keep on trying. If you would, say a quick prayer before looking into God's word. I know it sounds simple and maybe you already know but, ask Jesus to open your mind and heart to his word before looking into it. Godspeed friend.
Personally, I love Jesus! He brings me peace & happiness. It's not easy being in love with Christ, but I don't let love leave - so if u wanna feel love all over I recommend checking him out. His name is Jesus! :) Merry Christmas everybody!
Preluding99 2 months ago
The passage on "the days of Noah" says nothing about what happened after the flood. The whole point is that the judgement was swift as it will be with the coming of the son of man. That's it.
Templetonq 2 months ago
@Templetonq How long were the days of Noah? The Bible clearly says 950 years. And no, it wasn't swift. It took 120 years for it to happen. What Bible are you reading?
ministerfortson 2 months ago
@ministerfortson My point is, this passage is not about WHAT HAPPENED during the days of Noah, but how IT ENDED - suddenly and without warning. That is why the phrase "until the day" is repeated. It may have taken Noah 120 years to build the ark, but the springs burst and the rains came suddenly.
Templetonq 2 months ago
@ministerfortson Studiyng this for 27 years, I was a FULL Dispensationalist, this Matthew 24 Prophecy was referring to the 70 A.D. Destruction
of Jerusalem, I have every single note from my years of study, and the very first
thing I had to to unlearn was, cast out the "American" mindset when reading
Matthew 24's supposedly distant future Prophecy.
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truthseeker9261 1 month ago
@truthseeker9261 LOL. Yeah, because the pit in Revelation 9 was opened in 70AD... all that supernatural stuff is well documented history. Next you're gonna say Christ is in the middle of the thousand year reign and this is the new heaven and earth LOL. If it is, I want no part of it.
ministerfortson 1 month ago
@ministerfortson Proving once again we shouldn't allow a serious
subject espoused over Youtube by a self-proclaimed laughing Minister
who doesn't look old enough the cross the street.
This Ladies and Gentlemen, these are the clever, new Breed, Last Days, 'Angels
had sex with Women' preachers Augustine and Josephus warned about.
Proceed at your own risk.
truthseeker9261 1 month ago
@truthseeker9261 I forgot, I'm not allowed to laugh because... wait, that's not in the Bible. If it's funny, I'll laugh at it. FYI: I'm not a self proclaimed minister. I'm licensed and ordained on record with the state of Nevada. Looks can be deceiving. I age well.
ministerfortson 1 month ago
You're reading too much into it and being TOO specific. If you read "as in the days of Noah" in context (see Lk17 and Matt 24) He's simply saying that people will be going about their normal business until the moment of judgement and will be caught out. Why else mention Noah, Lot and "the day" in one breath? What does the verse before your reference say?
Templetonq 2 months ago
@Templetonq Actually, you're taking it out of context. How is "business as usual" a sign? LOL. Are you telling me that in Jesus' time no one was eating, drinking, or getting married?
ministerfortson 2 months ago
@ministerfortson
PART 1
You mean the context that starts with "No one knows the day or the hour"? This theme surounds the passage on Noah in Matthew. This whole passage is not so much about the signs of the coming as the nature of the coming which will be a complete surprise (see Mt 24:36,42,44). That is why the phrase "up to the day" is used.
Templetonq 2 months ago
@ministerfortson PART 2
Luke (17:28) says it was the same in the days as Lot. What was the same? The context is clear: people were doing as usual until "the day" of judgement. Then it goes on to describe "the day" of the coming.
Templetonq 2 months ago
@ministerfortson "Are you telling me that in Jesus' time no one was eating, drinking, or getting married?"
So you're agreeing that "eating, drinking or getting married" is NOT anything special?
Templetonq 2 months ago
@MusingsOfAMoron You're 100% wrong. It says "as the days of Noah were"... so yes it refers to Noah's days. All the days of Noah were 950 years. Read Genesis if you actually plan for anyone to take you seriously.
ministerfortson 3 months ago
they other day i was giving the business to some satanist, and one of them sent me a bible verse, James 4:11, speaking against your brother. i tried 2 ignore it because it came from an unbeleiver, but it stuck with me. i don't think brother murray is trying to lead anyone astray and neither are you, aren't you guys on the same team. like Matthew 12:25. anywho, i hope this isn't a bad omen, but i was the 1,666 viewer of this video.
gretchaninoff 5 months ago
@gretchaninoff James 4:11 does not apply to false teaching. Murray purposely teaches falsely and completely disregards what the Bible says when it doesn't fit his theory. Genesis 4:1 clearly says that Adam was Cains father and that Cain was a gift from God. Murray teaches that Genesis 4:1 is a lie and that Satan was Cain's father from Eve's adulterous affair with Satan. None of that is in the Bible.
ministerfortson 5 months ago
@gretchaninoff What business were you giving my friend, you describe reaching to the ungodly as giving them their business. I would call no man my brother unless I know why Christ he speaks of, we are told to Discern Spirits whether they be of God or not.
MusingsOfAMoron 3 months ago
@MusingsOfAMoron i gave 'em hell, i knew it was wrong, but i did it anyway. i call all my brothers, for all have fallen short of the glory of God, including myself. i enjoyed giving them a hard time, as they enjoy giving people that beleive in God a hard time. i know about casting pearls before swine and give not that which is holy unto dogs, i just threw a few stones. maybe i was not blessed with the spirit of discernment, i'm just the one thankful for the crumbs that fall from the table.
gretchaninoff 3 months ago
@gretchaninoff Neither you nor Murray have any pearls to cast before anyone lol. That's a common cult excuse for not backing doctrine with scripture, which Murray only uses when he can't show you in the Bible. Murray says he isn't a racist, yet claims that only white people have souls. He's a racist and anyone following him is a moron. Can't even think of a nice way to say how deceived his followers are and EVERYONE sees it except his followers. Even ex followers admit he's lying.
ministerfortson 3 months ago
@ministerfortson what did God do, die and make you judge? ah... the self righteous, they always think they know more than everyone else, they have all the answers and hold a place, seated at the left hand of God. pastor murray is just an old country preacher, not God or the Messiah, and neither are you. i listen to all, including you, and make my own determinations, and i don't take your word for it, i go and find out 4 myself. like Matthew 7:15, athiest.
gretchaninoff 3 months ago
@gretchaninoff The Bible is clear that we are use to Bible for correction when people are claiming to teach the Bible and actually aren't. Maybe you should try reading it before claiming to know it. So it doesn't fall to judging or anything to do with righteousness. Pastor Murray was licensed and ordained by racist men that teach hatred. Check his site he says "Roy Gillaspie was a beloved Bible teacher" and then do a search on what Gillaspie taught. False teachers beget false teachers.
ministerfortson 3 months ago
@ministerfortson i don't teach the bible, and i'm not interested in who begat who, and who screwed who. and if all i know is the 12 commandments that's good enough, the 10 on stone, and the 2 greatest. you are in no position to judge anyone, minister. all have some skeletons in their closets, mr. murray, leaders of mega-churches and politicians, how about you? if you ever get a show, i'm pretty sure they'll be someone out there looking to dig up some bones on you. may God bless u, from a heathen
gretchaninoff 3 months ago
@gretchaninoff You may want to check my website lol... Because right now you are making yourself sound uneducated. There are 613 laws and commandments not 12. And again, using the Bible to point out non-Biblical doctrine is not judging. Either it's Biblical or its not and Murray mixes Targums, Mormonism, and Christianity to sound like he's teaching the Bible and he's not. As far as skeletons, they don't have to dig further than my "About" page. There is a bullet point list for them. lol
ministerfortson 3 months ago
@ministerfortson checked your website, we have alot of the same interests. i don't follow all of the laws in the bible, and apparently neither do you. maybe u missed it, i said commandments, not laws. maybe i am uneducated, i just know you are wrong, according to your bible, just maybe to educated to know it. you've got as many bones in your closet than i do, maybe more so, but guess what, i'll not judge you for it. your probably smarter then Jesus, just look what happened to him.
gretchaninoff 3 months ago
@gretchaninoff There are more than 12 commandments lol... People only refer to the first 10 and the 2 that Jesus gave. What specifically am I wrong about? Please enlighten me or do you plan to do the cowardly Murray tactic, tuck tail and run? The difference between what I've done in the past and Murray is that Murray still teaches racism, only whites have souls, and Jews are evil. I don't teach any of my wrongs as Biblical doctrine like he does. He's a false teacher and that's what they do.
ministerfortson 3 months ago
@ministerfortson cowardly? right or wrong, what is there to run from, nothing to lose but time. what's the lol 4? i know of 12, do you know of more? you're wrong for judging, criticizing your brother. i've not seen all of his sermons, just a few, and at no time did i hear of any racism, but if you can point it out to me i'd be glad to check into it. there's no diff between you and murray, we've all sinned and fallen short. swaggart spoke against bakker and it came back on him, so keep talking.
gretchaninoff 3 months ago
@gretchaninoff There are more than 12. Start reading at Exodus 20 & keep reading. There are a lot of commandments. If you don't know the full scope of what he teaches, why are you wasting your defending someone you know very little about? I've been watching Murray for years & still do. I've just come to the realization that he mixes a little Bible with a little BS and preaches racism. Open your Bible you can see the racism. Serpent Seed is a racist doctrine. Who cares what happened to Swaggart?
ministerfortson 3 months ago
@ministerfortson everyone has an opinion, i would not speak against you or brother murray, because you are beleivers. but i do speak and defend against non-beleivers and all the bs they have to say about those who do beleive in God. satanist, athiest, etc. they have just as much education as you do, fuck 'em. so if you want to call someone a moron, or uneducated, maybe you need to direct this at these people. there the ones that think you are the fool.
gretchaninoff 3 months ago
@gretchaninoff You are confusing opinion with what we can actually refer to by opening a book. If someone tells you something is in a book and it's not, they are lying. That's not a matter of opinion but a matter of fact. The facts are against Murray. Any man teaching that only white people have souls is no follower of Christ and no brother of mine. Any man teaching hatred for Jews or any other race is no follower of Christ and Murray teaches all those things.
ministerfortson 3 months ago
@ministerfortson i guess you really don't get my point, and you know what, it really doesn't matter. this is what i'll do, mr. murray answers letters from viewers, i'll send him one, and of course if he is the racist you claim he is, his answer will prove it. if he does not reply, then you are correct. i've yet to hear him say anything racist, but if he is, to hell with him, if not, then stop judging this man, he's trying to get to the same place as you.
gretchaninoff 3 months ago
@gretchaninoff I get your point completely. You don't get mine. People lie and he has answered the question before, but what he teaches contradicts what comes out of his mouth. Again, you seem to not know what judging is. He admits to being taught by a racist, he admits that a racist was a beloved friend, he teaches a racist doctrine, and teaches that whites are the true Israel. There is no need for me to ask him anything when his beliefs are public information.
ministerfortson 3 months ago
@gretchaninoff Like I said before, look up Roy Gillaspie and you can read all about who he was and what he believed. Then go to Arnold Murray's website and see what he says about that man. The apple doesn't fall far from the tree.
ministerfortson 3 months ago
@gretchaninoff Look at any SS video on YouTube and they all preach racism and hatred. The Black Israelites teach that the white man is the offspring of Eve and Satan. Murray teaches that the Jews are offspring of Satan and refers to them as Kenites. He also teaches that whites are the real Israelites. The only thing the Black and White Israelite movements have in common is accusing the other race of being Satan's offspring. That's racism and hatred and not Biblical at all.
ministerfortson 3 months ago
@gretchaninoff lol I understand, sometimes it happens. May God bless you and help you grow in His LOVE.
MusingsOfAMoron 3 months ago
My goodness as I listen my fears are confirmed, for nowhere in scripture do we have an account of the sons of God after the flood corrupting the human Geno again, also they Generational names do not appear in scripture, you created the link not scripture. Reference to giants later on in scripture, has no linkage to beings before the flood. That generation was destroyed and the angels responsible were placed in everlasting chains as Peter 2:4 says. Please by scripture prove me wrong...
MusingsOfAMoron 3 months ago
@MusingsOfAMoron Read Genesis 6:4... They were on the earth in those days and ALSO AFTER... there is the link you are looking for. You may want to keep reading before making assumptions. The name fits.
ministerfortson 3 months ago
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the book of enoch does not contain any lies. read it and stop repeating what everyone says. everything in Enoch is consistent with what the bible says. In fact we know from reading the bible that they read the book of enoch and accepted as scripture in their day.
Jud 1:14 And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints,
ljk1181 10 months ago
the book of enoch does not contain any lies. read it and stop repeating what everyone says. everything in Enoch is consistent with what the bible says. In fact we know from reading the bible that they read the book of enoch and accepted as scripture in their day.
Jud 1:14 And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints,
ljk1181 10 months ago
Very interesting video. I look forward to reading your book.
ajpecanic 11 months ago
Really good video Minister Dante Fortson. We liked it so much we put it up on our website at thestrongdelusion . We also put up your articles on Pardox Brown and Joe Jordan. Once again very well done !!!
CleverPig02 1 year ago
@CleverPig02 Thank you very much. I appreciate it. I do have a request. I noticed that the articles link back to the Omegazine page. Would you link to the main website page or to the article page itself? Thanks. Once again, I appreciate it.
ministerfortson 1 year ago
Good stuff!
DETPower 1 year ago
ask doc if you guys can redo the interview,..nobody could understand you,& your message is to important to be missed!..thanks!
wilatemodel 1 year ago
@wilatemodel I agree I was looking forward to the listen but just couldn't understand their words.
ljrow49 1 year ago
@wilatemodel We will be doing more in the future. In the meantime, check out my website. It has much of the info on their that we covered.
ministerfortson 1 year ago
While I only look to the Book of Enoch 1 as a historical reference I do find it interesting that it has been canonized in the Coptic Bible. Awesome teaching brother Dante.
BibleHealth101 1 year ago
The book of Enoch is full of lies, I cant believe you would endorse it. 1 lie is 1 lie to many. The word says if anyone adds or subtracts to the scriptures, the will be punished. There are several, SEVERAL lies and contradictions in Enoch. Again my friend, The Lord is about truth, not half truths, fairy tales and lies.
1 LIE IS 1 LIE TO MANY. YHWH is not the author of confusion, Please, dont try to tell me Enoch is credible its not.
Pjaynes781 1 year ago
@Pjaynes781 I never endorse Enoch as scripture, only a historical reference. Maybe you should familirize yourself with what I teach before jumping to conclusions. ALL of history is full of lies, but I doubt that you attend school board meetings to point out that Columbus "discovered" a continent that already contained people. That's a huge lie, but we use it as historical reference and weed out what's true from what's not. Act 17:11 is what I always teach. Enoch is history not scripture.
ministerfortson 1 year ago 3
@ministerfortson Thats actually not true, I'm very involved in the lives of not only my family but the families of my community. Your absolutely right, The "Columbus Lie" is one of the biggest lies I know of. I am "Somewhat" familiar with what you teach, I was informed by someone that you support "Enoch" as scripture, if you dont, cool. I do apologize, your right, I should have came right to you first. My bad. I am familiar with your work, when I heard your were an "Enoch" guy I gasped. Sorry
Pjaynes781 1 year ago
@Pjaynes781 That's how rumors get started. I'm always clear that Enoch is not scripture. There are over 200 hours of audio of me speaking on various subjects, whether its me interviewing someone else or them interviewing me. At no time will you find me presenting Enoch as anything other than an important historical reference. I'm definitely not an "Enoch Guy" as you put it. LOL.
ministerfortson 1 year ago
@ministerfortson I personally don't consider Enoch inspired, but I do realize that people can make strong arguments for being inspired. Jude directly quoted it, along with Peter, and even our Messiah used it and called it "Scripture."
Whether that makes it "inspired," I don't know, but it does show that it is very useful for understanding history, and by reappearing after a long disappearance, it does just what it says, as it says immediately it was written for a "remote generation yet to come."
ClassicCartoonsGuy 1 year ago
@Pjaynes781 "not the author of confusion?" I am not going to argue that point but for me personally I have always been frustrated reading the bible due to all of the riddles and how at church most sermons are the reading of a scripture then 20 minutes dissecting each word to understand it. The fact so many "interpretations" vary makes me wish scripture was straight forward. Who/what is the great "Whore" in the bible? The Vatican? The USA? Feel me?
ljrow49 1 year ago
@ljrow49 Read it in Hebrew and Greek. Get a Strong's. Everything is very clear. You'll find that most church prefer tradition over what it actually says. Do some research on the word fornication and you'll see one of the many areas that those in church are falsely teaching. Once you find that one little thing out, ask yourself why we don't define pornography as "premarital sex". It will all make sense if you start to research on your own.
ministerfortson 1 year ago
@ljrow49 Yes, I feel ya. Just keep on trying. If you would, say a quick prayer before looking into God's word. I know it sounds simple and maybe you already know but, ask Jesus to open your mind and heart to his word before looking into it. Godspeed friend.
Pjaynes781 1 year ago
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Pjaynes781 1 year ago
this is an excellent presentation of this material brother Dante.
BibleHealth101 1 year ago