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  • I am no physicist but is seems that the added centrifugal force of the rotation of your platform would make the ceramic gyro magnets much heavier so that the driving motors are simply too weak to overcome that force during rotation. I would try moving the gyro magnets to either a purely vertical rotation instead of at an angle. Also counter-rotate the gyros so they cancel their own tendency to rotate the platform they share. Fascinating experiment! Thanks for sharing and please never quit!

  • great idea, very "Eric Laithwaite" concept, keep up the great ideas and works!!!

    with people like you we might achieve diagravitic effects!!!

  • Nice work dude. Don't give up.

  • the gyros turn but its the main motor making them turn once you turn it on(i think).have you tried putting a unbalanced weiht on the gyro's. i wonder if the gyros can cause the main motor (bigger main motor )to turn and make a motor genertor with it.

  • Once you have gained such a high speed/velocity of spin the gyroscopes simply are not able to facilitate the lift you are looking for. There is a next step which I am anxious to know about.

  • I'm no physicist, but I believe there is a simple explanation even to these complex theories. The gyroscopes have simply cease to function although power is being sent to them, due to the fact that they no longer need to function, the spin caused by the third motor, or caused by the gyroscopes getting it up to speed, and the motor keeping them at that speed(this is how I understood the experiment, let me know if I am wrong) causing the gyroscopes to reverse their actual ability, they stop workin

  • nice one ,< try encorporating a pendulem device or directional effect device to increase pottential lift < also you may try speeds of 8 thousand RPM plus .try compressed air pumps . hope the next one will work . there are new power plants of much greater power to weight ratios , which could ofset the mass , if you can afford to go all the way . hope you get the funds . doctor scratch @@@ .

  • try spining both gyroscopes with one motor so they go in sync. and try using 3 gyroscope so they can form a plan suport. not only an axis and I don't think it is necesary to spin the gyroscopes in that case the efect shuld be the same. The motyon that you got there is done from vibration or from gyroscopes ?

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  • you need to reverse one of the poles of your motors--- I would say you have to push it the derection it wants to flow , you called it the main motor( spin the second motor that spins the gyro's the oppisite way it is spinning...you will see a difference...I would help to have your axe's perpepndicular "at 90 degrees from each other

    EX...gyros spin clock wise and motor spin clockwise

    you lose power do to the addition of volocity...as the gyro's spin they have a stronger gravitic pole

  • You've creating an electric field, using induction and polar resistance, similar to most modern motors.

  • the two gyroscopes are being over powered by the centrifugal force of the whole thing spining.

  • Hey I've suddenly become extremely interested in science. I haven't yet attempted to do anything like you have. But watching this video, and the question of why the gyro's stop due to the rotational force of the third motor. I was curious. Have you tried reversing the rotational direction of the gyro's?? I think the counter rotation of the third motor might be canceling out the anti-gravitational pull instead of increasing it?? Just a theory....

  • You're close my friend. I've known the answer for over 40 years. Enjoy figuring it out.

  • Im not completely familiar with this method but I have experimented with Homo-polar Magnetic Generators. Perhaps the reason your gyros slow or stop is because the rotation of the driving motor on the bottom is spinning them the opposite direction thus nullifying their directional force. A similar method is used to force a magnetic flux back onto itself generating only one polarity. I got close in some experiments but never could completely eliminate the opposite polarity. Darn laws of Physics.

  • I see 2 problems. 1. you are under powered for the weight you are dealing with. (power to weight ratio for the gyro and motor. 2. flip your motors so the motor is on the inside and gyro weight on the outside. Another thing you should try first is to run your 3rd motor in the other direction.

  • Page 1: Cool!!!. I caught d problem. When u first turn on d gyroscope, it spin counterclockwise, right? D motor on d front screwed on bottom flooring wood, it supposed to rotate counterclockwise also. That's why it creates resistance. It's impeding d rotation of gyroscope.Because d motor on d bottom rotates clockwise.What u do to d belt on d bottom,make d gyroscope outside d belt so it will rotate counterclockwise also. D impedance disappears. U must build 2 more pulleys to create triangle.

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  • I just recently came to the conclusion, after watching videos from Eric Laithwaite, that spinning two vertical gyros in the same way you did(but not angled), is the answer to anti-gravity. I believe you need to have +3000rpm to achieve enough force, as well as other particulars. I have a plan for a similar experiment, I will post a video when its done.

  • Utter twaddle.

  • I think the gyros slow down because a lot of friction is created between the shaft of the motor and the motor housing(i don't think those motor are equiped to handle lateral forces) when the gyros try to rotate about the "theoretical anchor point." So, using some bearings might help.

  • maybe times stop on the middle! -AA

  • I'm impressed

  • Finally somebody with some sense!

  • The centrifugal force caused by the bottom motor is greater than the force generated by the two motors spinning the gyro scopes. That is why the Gyro scopes stop spinning. If you were to increase the power output of the motors connected to the gyroscopes they would overcome the centrifugal force of the bottom motor.

  • I think you should just check again wether these two gyroscopes are equidistant or not.

    Also, I think that they might be canceling each others field, so you can try to invert the magnet disk of one of them. Hope this helps.

  • they aren't stopping, they are moving the speed of the total rotation. This means they apear to be stopped when in fact they are just keeping up with the total rotation. try reversing the total rotation of the fixture but keeping the same rotation of the gyros. this will in reality speed up the rotation of the gyros as you increase the speed of the fixture.

  • well at least we will know how to land our antigravity cars, we just switch on the third motor and begin to descend! :)

  • lad, im thinking on making one of my self, as well, but i see what could be improved, very nice project imo, first,... i would create it with Alluminium and put some weight on it, make it be something worth 10-20 kg..you would need to let it be somewhere near concrete, dont let it be near your house and put perhaps the camera abit longer away,. setting this in a larger scale,... put 2x abit bigger motors on each side and instead of making 2, make it 4, making it from all sides will stable sphere

  • The reason it is slowing is because the axis are not parallel.... i think thats why ?

  • Reverse the direction of spin of the motor rotating the two.

  • I may be repeating someone else. But, the vibration is cause the unevenness of the rotors. When the bottom motor spools up. the heavier parts of the rotor have more centrifugal force. Making the spin to the outer most orbit, stalling the motors because they lack the force to overcome this. The reason why it slowly bring the motor to a halt as the other one gets faster.

    As for the power aspect, you would need more voltage to overcome this. Try again with 9v for the upper gyros.

  • not levitates!

  • could be electromagnatizm that stops the other ones

  • when the engine let go down, it creates an equality between the inertial and centrifugal force.this will happen no matter how you put your discs.you need to increase the power of two engines.

  • In your video, when you let moving your two gyroscopic without your motor (this one rotate the center axe. the entire platform moving i guest or it's been suspended in the air with some wire ?

  • @noneofyouknowme Thats right, I have the whole device attached to a wire so that I can hang it from my scale. At one point in the video I lifted the device with the wire.

  • Your platform is moving when you stop your third motor.Have you try to made another one and put base on base without your third motor, if you make it reversed side of rotation from each other like your thrid motor do maybe you will have an more precise counter balanced rotation. It's a guest i never try something you do but it's good idea you got . PLease show us your next step when you complet more

    Thank you for sharing your idea :)

  • @noneofyouknowme I dont understand what you mean?

  • also possible that mass of the gyros are pushing against the bushes in the motor and creating so much friction that its slowing the motor,try it without the toroid magnets.ther is plenty of mass in the motors all by themselves...

  • @m3sca1 You could be right. I might do as you recomment, but another option might be to change the angle of the gyros so that they are not at 45 degrees, but instead are at 90 angles. This should probably fix the problem if it is a friction issue I think.

  • I would try installing LEDs on the gyro motor terminals. Maybe the AA batteries are compressing the battery case springs. That might be breaking the circuit when the centrifugal force increases. I like it! Keep it up.

  • @firepinto LEDs are a good idea, thanks! That way I can be sure that the circuit is not being broken.

  • @firepinto Hey there fire pinto, you were right!! I tried it with LEDs and they turned off at high speeds. Obviously there is a loose connection with the batteries. I was using AAA batteries in AA holders, so I'm sure this is the problem. I should've realized this earlier. ha ha...

  • -@spiritelemental Glad I could help out. :-) Can't wait to see what it will do!

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