1. why you brought Christian theology as you mentioned bible? Bible consists not only Torah but also New Testament. Judaism has different mindset and Israel is Judaism in majority.
2. why don't other muslim countries receive these refugees long ago? They call em "brothers and sisters". Why not Iran, Iraq, Saudi, Indonesia, Malaysia, Pakistan etc etc open for them?
I think the purpose of having israel exist in the midst of these arab lands and the purpose for this conflict is to herald the coming of the true era of peace on earth. If the world sees that the Jews and Muslims make peace, then world peace is right around the corner. We must work toward this together, but in order to do so, Israel will have to become more Torah Observant (which it is in the process of) and the Muslims will have to respect Israel's PEACEFUL existence. Muslims can also live in
nsibility to uphold the Torah values. Anyone is free to convert to Judaism, so it definitely has nothing to do with a racist superiority. I am still new and learning about all the concepts but I really see no true sentiments of superiority. There are even 7 laws for all humanity passed down from Noah and according the Talmud a gentile who upholds these laws earns the same share in the world to come. Islam does uphold these laws, except for the extremists that target civilians.
I have a question. Do muslims believe that Israel is the homeland of the Jews if they were to live there under a proper Torah state? I was told that in the past one of the Muslim leaders offered this to the Jewish people and offered to rebuild the temple but I am not sure if that is true
There is a book "Palaestina ex Monumentis Veteribus Illustrata"
written by Adriaan Reeland in 1695 (not mistake - in 1695).
He said in his book that in nearly 2500 settlements of Palestine at that time the most of population were jews, the rest were christians and only very little were muslims (beduins).
So this is definitely jewish land!
Arabs came later, when there was jewish majority in Palestine, but now they complain that jews occupied Palestine.
there is no solution in the middle east, They are underdeveloped unevolvoled and asically barbaric in all things. Kiliings and bombings will continue. has for generation. Been when your stupid antics spill into and on to AMERICAN SOIL, YOU HAD BETTER BAR THE DOORS CUZ HERE WE COM. wE DONT WANT YOUR OIL, WE HAVE MORE THE YELLOWSTONE PARK AREA THAT YOU HAVE. sO YOU SHOULD SPEND YOUR EFFORTS OR KILLING THE EXTREMISTS IN YOUR COUNTRY BEFORE WE HAVE TO.
You, sir, are using the name of the Lord in vain. How can you be so arrogant as to claim with certainty that your violent plan is what G-d desires? The part calling for the overthrow of dictators was nice actually. However your 48-1 rhetoric at the end is a wonderful way to start WW3. It seems to me that the Qu'ran and every other holy book would support 1) The Arab countries taking in the Palestinians by charity. 2) Otherwise, the progressing 2-state solution. You stand as an obstacle to peace.
Israel is building settlements on the West Bank - there is no way the Palestinians will ever get a state now - I propose the one state solution. One complete Palestine.
@mujtahid2006 Why do Israeli settlements rule out a Palestinian state? I'd imagine that regardless, the 1967 borders are being discusses in talks. Obama didn't say anything new in his latest Middle East speech. It is just that letting out the word is unfavorable, as once you throw in your biggest chip, it's touch to negotiate.
What does your 'one complete Palestine' look like, and how does it come about?
0:00-1:30 No, we actually hate Hamas because they call for our destruction. They do not accept the 1967 borders- that is clearly false. You remind me of Hitler- a very charismatic figure using provocative words like 'domination', 'destroy', 'hate' and replacing "The Jew" with "The Zionists". If you think Israelis see the Palestinians as animals, I can't imagine how the neighboring Arab countries see the Palestinians. And no Palestinian even calls for the destruction of those Arab countries.
Zepstein, you can't play the 'aint-semitic' card here and you know it. The excuse is getting pretty thin now. This has never been about Jews - this has been about the fascist ideology of Zionism. Zionists believes they are a special chosen people who have a special entitlement to a "fatherland", and must kick out all those who are different to them - sound familiar?
@mujtahid2006 actually the JEWS were promised Israel and are the 'children of Israel' so get your facts straight because you are in fact being anti-semetic you ignorant fool.
Yes, this is true of some Zionists, just as it is true of some Palestinians. People on both sides feel that they are religiously entitled to the land. Yet, an ever-growing percentage of Israelis support a two-state solution.
When the Arab countries attacked Israel for 40 years, it was about Britain giving Jerusalem to the Jews. This has never been about the Palestinians. Their victimization has become a convenient tool because the wars have proven ineffective- sound familiar?
@mujtahid2006 The problem I see in the Muslim world is a failure (and understandable one) to comprehend what Zionism fully is and what is going on amongst the Jewish people. (I dont expect this because many Jews themselves are ignorant). However, there is currently a reawakening going on amongst the Jewish people that is no doubt inspired by Hashem's orchestration of history and Israel has been a huge part of that. Judaism is finding itself and the real Jews know that "chosen" only means a respo
@zepstein Well said, & King Hussain of Jordan killed more Palestinians than Israel has in its existence in a genocidal event called "Black September" alone. Yet no "Death to Jordan" from anyone...
If you are so concerned about the oppression of Palestinians, where are your videos on the oppression of muslims in Sudan etc?Or the disgusting oppression of muslim women in Iraq, Iran and Saudi Arabia?Israel may have its faults but so do other countries!Might i add that Israel is the only democratic middle-eastern country where gays and other minorities can safely live.Oppression is far worse in other middle-eastern countries than it is in Israel so stop finding excuses to spew ridiculous hate.
@mujtahid2006 let's call them what they are: 'Other Arabs Who Can't Accomplish Anything In Life And Would Rather Wrap Themselves In The Seductive Melodrama Of Eternal Struggle And Death.' Okay, so the Adjacent Jew-Haters want their own country. Oops, just one more thing: No, they don't. They could've had their own country. Anytime in the last thirty years, especially several years ago at Camp David. But If you have your own country, you have to have traffic lights and garbage trucks.
And Chambers of Commerce, and, worse, you actually have to figure out some way to make a living.That's no fun. No, they want what all the other Jew-Haters in the region want: Israel. They also want a big pile of dead Jews, of course that's where the Real fun is -- but mostly they want Israel.
Why? For one thing, trying to destroy Israel - or 'The Zionist Entity' as their textbooks call it -- for the last fifty years has allowed the rulers of Arab Countries to divert the attention
for the last fifty years has allowed the rulers of Arab Countries to divert the attention of their own people away from the fact that they're the blue-ribbon most illiterate, poorest, and tribally backward on God's Earth.
It makes me roll my eyes every time one of our pundits waxes poetic about the great history and culture of the Muslim Mideast. Unless I'm missing something, the Arabs haven't given anything to the world since Algebra, and, thanks a hell of a lot for that one.
I would love to discuss this issue. Time and again I have been banned by muslims because of my support for the legitimate right of the existance of Israel founded thjousands of years ago by the jewish King David with Yerushalayim being trhe holiest capital and home to the Jewish People which Islam denies and wishes to re name Al Quds.
Who gave Israel the 'right' to kick out the inhabitants of Canaan/Palestine? Prove to me that 'Israel' has more legitimacy to live there without asking the inhabitants permission? Please answer without imposing your religion onto me.
@mujtahid2006 Firstly, I belong to no religion. Secondly, why do you put the name Israel in brackets? Or are you trying to tell the readers that Israel as a state never historically existed?
@mujtahid2006 You said it, "the inhabitants". No such thing as a Palestinian. Israel was called Palestine for two thousand years. Like 'Wiccan,' 'Palestinian' sounds ancient but is really a modern invention. Before the Israelis won the land in the 1967 war, Gaza was owned by Egypt , the West Bank was part of Jordan, and there were no Palestinians.
As soon as the Jews took over, what do you know, say hello to the 'Palestinians,' weeping for their deep bond with their lost 'land' and 'nation.'
Wrong - from 717 BC archeological evidence from the Annals of Sargon II'': records the region as Palashtu or Pilistu. That means for 2700 years the area was a distinct piece of land called Palestine.
"Israelis won the land" - well, if you think conquest gives people rights over a land, then you would agree it is perfectly legitimate for us to win it back.
Secondly, the land was also called 'Canaan' before Israelites invaded and massacred the inhabitants...history repeats itself
It's easy for Andalusi to cry and beg others to clean the streets for him, but he's not even close to taking on the task himself. Right now he's just working to keep others from tearing down his own house and the best he has to hope for is others not caring about his house and maybe allowing him to keep his frontyard and few steps of his sidewalk clean.
I think the whole an analogy of "dirty houses" at 8:22 speaks volumes about Abdullah's belief for an invasive Islam. Inevitably this belief turns into an almost germaphoebic paranoia where the streets are clean, and then a need is felt to attack the houses of those who could potentially bring dirt onto the streets.
My analogy is referring to Morals and Ethics, which Jews and Christians share with us actually. As for what people do in their houses, it is up to them, as long as they keep the streets tidy :)
I can always tell the mentality of someone by how they interpret things. And it seems to me, sir, that you probably view Islam as a disease that should be eradicated in some 'final solution' manner? Right?
@mujtahid2006 Christians and Jews largely learned acceptance or have kept things to their own houses.
Actually I only see your brand of Salafi Islam as a disease that should probably be eradicated. Not that I advocate violence but I think an infrastructure and regulations should be put in place to discourage many of you from hypocritically sticking around and causing discord between everyone and the other majority Muslim communities.
@mujtahid2006 For the most part I support it but I understand it has limitations. Can't have a very good functioning society where people threaten people with murder freely on a regular basis.
I have no issue with denying certain expressions of those who would use purposely to undermine social cohesion and infact take away freedom of expression of everyone entirely based on a religion.
You have refuted your own ideology. The reason Liberalism allows free expression is in the belief that the stronger ideas will always win in open discussion. Cos Liberalism views itself as the 'strongest idea', this makes it confident about full open discussion. If you say that Liberalism cannot win arguments, and people may be swayed by false ideas - then the very basis for allowing open discussion no longer exists. And Liberalism then is revealed as a failure. nice
@mujtahid2006 That's not entirely what freedom of expression is and nobody is talking about denying open discussion and debate. There's huge difference between a group like NAMBLA holding a debate at a community center much like the MDI and them going to public schools or playgrounds with signs, espousing the merits of pedophilia to children and inciting parents.
I never made an argument for Liberalism and there is room for schools of thought in Liberalism just like there is for Islam.
Yes, there are different schools of thought, but at least in Islam, our schools of thought do not contradict the main tenets of Islam. According to Liberalism, Free expression cannot be impinged because humans using free will, Intellect and left free from physical harm - would never sanction evil upon others...this is the reason Free Speech is allowed, if you disagree with this, then you must reject Liberalism itself. Have a nice day :)
@mujtahid2006 Where's the contradiction? Your making a straw-man arguments about Liberalism. It's only "the belief in the importance of liberty and equal rights" nothing more. Beyond that everything is a school of thought.
The Political components of Islam are more agreed on, then the West has agreement on it's own political philosophies. ALL Muslims want the Zionists out - this is not something Muslims even debate amongst ourselves. Do your research before speaking.
@mujtahid2006 says The Political components of Islam are more agreed on. Islam is a religious entity just as the Quran says. It is not and should force its religious doctrine/ideology on other political persusaions.. Example: If I were a muslim living in the Far East, say Japan, then as a "Japanese muslim" living in Japan, have no right to dictate to the people living in Israel, who I as a muslim say that "Zionist" Jews have no right to be part of the Jewish Holy Land?
You don't have to be a Muslim to criticise Israel - in fact most critics of Islam, are just common Justice loving folk. What Israel is doing is wrong, not because the Quran says so, but because Justice says so. Now, please tell me, how the State of Israel coming to existence forcefully against the settled inhabitants, is morally legitimate?
@mujtahid2006 I also criticise Israel when the need arises. But by the same token I criticise Hamas and its racist charter. U then say please tell me, how the State of Israel coming to existence. No sir Israel never came into existence, It has been in existence since time immemorial. Read your Quran if you don't believe the history books.
I do read history books - and it seems that prior to 1200 BC, there are no Hebrews there. Then they invaded and massacred the Canaanites (how little has changed...) and were kicked out by other invading powers, until they were finally kicked out around 200 AD. All in all, there longest extent of a United Israel, only lasted a hundreds years in this entire period! 1030 BC–930 BC.
So much for time immemorial. Oh and btw- the Palestinians are descendants from the region (genetically
@mujtahid2006 And YHWH said Abram "Go yourself out of your land from your vrtelatives...to a land which I show U. And I shall make U a great nation, and blessyou...and bless you and curse him who curses you. And in you all the clans of the earth will be blessed.
Remember ur servants Abraham,Isaac,& Israel, to whom u swore...I will make ur descendants...I WILL YOUR DESCENDANTS ALL THIS land I promised them, it will be their inheritance forever Ex 32:13.
@mujtahid2006 I'm not imposing "my" religion. I belong to no religion. Nor were Moses, Abraham, isaac and Jacob None belonged to a "religion" I'm just quoting historical facts from scriptures just as you muslims do when quoting Mohammed from historical documents known as the Hadiths.
Being of no religion, then I'm sure that you disbelieve that God said to Abraham to conquer the land. If you do believe that God commanded the Israelites to conquer Canaan, and this entitles them to kick out anyone living there no matter what today, then this is nothing but imposing one's beliefs on to others.
@mujtahid2006 Bein of no religion does not mean that i disbelieve what The almighty said or commanded. The YHWH never commanded Abraham to "conquer" any land. If you know so much about the Bible, you should know that. In fact why don't you study your own Holy Book where it clearly states who the land belongs to and how the scattered around will be regathered in the land according to YHWH's covenant he made with his chosen people.
@mujtahid2006 that force was the reaction of Arab Muslim rioting and surrounding nations declaring war unto the state to be. Where was the morality in that when it was infact the original Zionists who were buying up the land legally and making deals with leaders like King Faisal with authority.
Muslims do not recognise the deals done by our Western-appointed/backed dictators, and we do not recognise that injustice should be accepted merely because it happened in the past, lastly, we do not recognise colonisation and occupation. Say what you want, Israel's time will come - like the Crusader States (even though they lasted for over 100 years!).
@mujtahid2006 You don't speak for Muslims anymore than Saddam or Gadhaffi. Both were/are evil Muslims that became western backed due to the power and recognition they had established among their people beforehand. This is a fact you conveniently choose to ignore.
All states time will come. Israel's though unlikely to end in the manner you wish and within the time frame you would hope for.
@mujtahid2006 all nations, cultures, religions change or come to and end at some point. I don't expect Israel to be around forever.
Unlike the crusaders however they do have nukes and all manner of other weapons so to believe in this day and age that the Jewish state will be toppled by some Pan-Islamist army led by Salafi's such as yourself is simply absurd.
When everyone in the region got their independence from the Ottoman Empire what right did Arab Muslims have to deny those Jews who had been living there for hundreds of years their autonomy, and by what right did they have to rule them and say to them that their Jewish brothers from overseas can't move in with them?
Your complaint is that instead of targeting their guns on the Zionists these Arab rulers train there guns on their own people. This is not a message of peace. Good democratic Arabs should continue to protest these rulers so that their guns are not trained on ANYONE! If Islam is a religion of peace I guess you are some other religion. The answer is peace. Not violence, not terror and not hate.
You cannot get peace without Justice, and you cannot get justice without fighting for it. The answer is Peace, yes- but that is only the end stage. Israel does not advocate pacifism, neither the the West, nor the U.S, so how dare you ask us to do something you cannot and will not do?
@mujtahid2006 If by Justice you mean murdering Jews then your right, if by Justice you mean we sign an agreement and agree on land and other issues then what do you wish to fight for and push off peace? So what is justice to you and what are you hiding? Israel advocates peace, we all dream of it. but until we have that we won't be fools and put our guns down isn't that obvious?
No it's not murdering of Jews, and you know it. Justice is not having had your parents kicked out of their land, justice is not being deprived of your house because the Occupation forces never gave you a permit (!), justice is having a fair share of the water supplies in West Bank, Justice is not being blockaded, justice is having the right to return to your house, justice is not being abused as checkpoints, justice is not being shot by Israeli snipers/settlers. Go learn the meaning
@mujtahid2006 Most left on their own will. you have to say what you want, not what you don't want. Still I believe this all can be worked out in a peace deal, everything from water supplies, to borders, end to checkpoints, and with peace as long as they stop shooting at us, we would not need to shoot back. they would have their own police. Other than people actually returning to homes they left, I think we agree so why not come to the table and make peace????
That's like me saying that most Jews left Nazi Germany of their own will!...and yes, the analogy is apt.
"I believe this all can be worked out in a peace deal"
How about the Zionists leave? We all know what the Israeli 'peace deal' means. At best it is the Palestinians being consigned to reservations (like the US did to the Indians), at worst, it means the total eradication of Palestine from the map.
@mujtahid2006 No it is not a good analogy at all. The germans killed 6 million jews. The Jews were not waging a war against germany. It was simply racist hate. The Arab's could not accept a non Islamic entity in Israel. (even though the Koran says it is our land) and so they waged war on us! During the war Arabs were afraid and left, they thought they would return as Israel was defeated! Bad choice! (part 1)
@mujtahid2006 Wait make up your mind, you just said you wan't peace with justice but when I show you that peace would bring Justice you come up with some other bull shit? No not at all like reservations, Israel has ageed to give a people who never had their own state 98% of the west bank, is that not Justice enough? Eradicaton WTF are you lying for? if we wanted this we could have kicked out all the Arabs years ago.
@mujtahid2006 you can get peace without justice. It's called, acceptance, moving on, or death. Justice is a perception. Many different groups throughout history died having never realized the justice that they felt was rightfully theirs.
Well I guess the Civil Rights and Anti-Aparteid movement was wrong then...
"Many different groups throughout history died having never realized the justice that they felt was rightfully theirs."
Perhaps, but our group is particularly noted for being unable to be eradicated, and our history bears testimony to the defeat of the unjust - given time. So why should we back down from Justice? Oh that's right, we believe in a God - do you?
@mujtahid2006 since when are the civil rights and anti-aparteid movements the authority on all instances of peace?
In some instances specific demands for Justice are reasonable and in others not soo much. If everyone today were to get justice they felt they deserved at the expense of one another then when all is said and done nobody would feel like they got Justice.
@mujtahid2006 I think the Jews have quite the leg up on you as far as avoiding eradication and sticking around while their enemies end up in the dustbin of history. They also beat you many times over when it comes to unity between them.
Oh I believe in God, just not the one you subscribe to who's like some sort of overzealous father figure who will slap your older brother for stealing your lollipop.
@mujtahid2006 Your group is very stubborn, and it matches up against the Jews who had stubbornly held on without a homeland for 2000 years! Problem is my people were willing to compromise when something reasonable was offered on many occasions (Arabs were not) and yet again your people are not willing to compromise a thing in the name of peace and security. if you keep missing opportunities, you will eventually end up losing everything. must know when to struggle and when to compromise
Compromise can be used for somethings, but there are lines that no self-respecting people can allow to be crossed. If Mexico was to take over the USA, and import millions of Russian settlers who want to create a new 'Soviet Nation' over 70% of the US, would the Americans accept compromise? huh? No - they won't. So how could you expect the Palestinians to accept Zionist immigration without their consent, and colonisation? Ben Gurion said the same - he expected a fight - so do I.
@mujtahid2006 Your example is wacked. But your still talking in circles. I asked you what you call Justice, you said a number of things which I said can be worked out in a peace deal, so there is justice and peace, yet your still against it, why? and why don't you be honest and say what you really have in mind to settle this conflict once and for all?
You ask me to be honest about what I want - yet you haven't noticed what I've been saying on my video (you know, the one of which this is just the comments section of!) lol. My video is open and honest about the real solution to the problem.
Over 30% of IDF officers are religious zionists, many settlers, and this is growing from almost nothing a decade ago. They are righteous people. They are not peres or netanyahoo or olmert who blundered around lebanon with no idea what to do in 2006.
They are gaining power in israel. They meet your mujahadeen on the battlefield with most determination, an iron will to defend THEIR land, and an unassailable belief in the Lord. And whether its 48:1 or 1000:1, they will win any war you impose :)
We have a Prophesy that says the Tribe of Israel will again do much mischief in the World, and God will punish them via the hand of the Muslims. I don't know why you find this hard to believe, it's not like (despite all the fanatical Israelites could do) it hasn't happened before when God punished Israel through the Babylonians, Persians, Greeks, Romans etc. And you seriously believe it won't happen again? :)
@mujtahid2006 A convenient prophecy. Do you seriously believe it actually pertains to "Muslims" like yourself and the rest of the corrupt Ummah in this day and age?
Masada Zealots today have nuclear bombs and biological weapons.
"Masada Zealots today have nuclear bombs and biological weapons"
Then the Muslim world we'll just have to get bigger ones - though we'd prefer to settle this like men, with conventional weapons only. An irradiated Holy land makes pilgrimage difficult. :)
@mujtahid2006 real men aren't stupid and know that war isn't about providing a sporting chance. Did your Ummah whine like this when the first Kaffir Crusaders came at them with guns up until the point they got some of their own? Perhaps you might consider going back to fighting with scimitar on camel back with faith alone.
your quote at 9:50 "we have many armies... we outnumber the zionists 48:1 in terms of military strength, we can end this tomorrow if we wanted to"
your armies have tried and failed repeatedly when israel was far weaker and this ratio was far higher. Now that israel has a rapidly increasing technological advantage not to mention 2nd strike nuclear capability (submarine launched nukes) you think that shouting alla akbar or waving the koran around will help you?
@mujtahid2006 no because israel only ever bombs in DEFENCE whereas Hamas bombs to eradicate the Israeli nation for no other reason than pure hate and anti-semitism
Let me get this straight, when Israel kicks out palestinians out of their family homes, supplies 80% of the West bank's water to the 20% growing illegal Israeli settlers population, uses cluster bombs on cities, and imposes a bloackade on gaza, preventing mostly FOOD & medicine products from entering; this is defensive?
However, when Hamas fire a few puny and pathetic firework-sized rockets - they are trying to eliminate israel with them?! Mate, you seriously need help...
@mujtahid2006 o PLEASE. its PREVENTATIVE- PREVENTING Hamas gaining weapons that would kill Israelis. Israel has NEVER kicked palestinians out of their family homes i think its YOU that needs help. And these 'puny' rockets arent so 'pathetic' when hundreds of them are being fired each day, killing Israelis. Youre facts are wrong, youre argument is wrong and finally YOU are wrong.
Two words - Sheikh Jarrah area in East Jerusalem (just for a recent example) - Israel kicked out Palestinians, and the UN itself has condemned it - go do you homework.
As for the Protest rockets, how many Israelis have died in the last month of 'hundreds of rockets'? And how many Palestinians have died in the last WEEK due to Israel? If all life is equal and sacred, who is the worst killer between Israel and Palestine?
@mujtahid2006 have a look at the number of Israelis killed in Palestinian terrorist attacks, maybe its you who should do your homework. I don't deny that Israel makes some mistakes but there is NO such thing as the perfect democracy-find me one government who has never made a mistake and then i'll stop defending israel. Exactly:it will never happen.
You criticize the blockade but fail to mention that Egypt enforces the blockade too. Additionally, the awful treatment of people in Gaza is due to the holocaust-denying, anti-semetic, TERRORIST ORGANISATION HAMAS. Furthermore, 50 ROCKETS are fired at Israel every day, and having visited the country many times myself, I have seen the detrimental affects that this has on a country. Israel only ever fires back in retaliation to defend itself. It never initiates violence. Long live Israel.
Read your history sir, you are wrong, Israel bombed HAMAS, and refused to stick to peace agreements clauses, that the blockade be lifted, BEFORE Hamas we're forced re-initiated rocket launches in protest.
Tell me, how much infrastructural damage as HAMAS's puny rockets caused in Israel? Why don't you go to Gaza and see what REAL damage (and death) looks like in a city. Then you'll see the reason they resist the fascist race-centric state of Israel.
@mujtahid2006 I have read my history 'sir' and it is in fact YOU that is wrong. Where are you getting your facts from? Additionally, what 'peace agreements clauses' are you referring to? Israel's bombing of Gaza is only EVER in retaliation in order to defend itself like any other country has the right to do. Their 'puny rockets' may not have had much infrastructural damage but Israel is more concerned with the DEATHS OF ITS CITIZENS which the rockets cause.
Hamas is concerned over the DEATH of its citizens due to lack of supplies, being prevented from entering the Gaza strip by the despicable Israeli blockade. Why don't you google '2008 Israeli-Hamas ceasefire' and see for yourself how the U.N documented Israeli breaches of the ceasefire agreement by bombing HAMAS members, and not lifting the blockade. If you confine innocent people to a prison, they will always try to break free - either peacefully, or with protest rocket fire.
@mujtahid2006 Israel didn't break the ceasefire first. They entered Gaza because of a tunnel which Hamas was planning to use to capture Israeli soldiers. Hamas then fired 30 rockets into Israel, proving that Hamas broke the blockade first. I agree that the confinement of innocent people in Gaza is WRONG but Israel must enforce the blockade to stop Hamas making weapons which could kill Israel's people. Hamas is a TERRORIST ORGANISATION therefore, they cant be given power.
Oh, so just because Hamas had tunnels, Israel was able to see into the future and figure out that they're 'kiddnapping tunnels', as opposed to the hundreds of ANTI-BLOCKADE tunnels that Hamas have used for YEARS to smuggle food and medicine for their persecuted people. It's is time you opened your mind and stopped defending Israel blindly.
Btw- Israel is a TERRORIST ORGANISATION therefore, they shouldn't be given any power.
@mujtahid2006 israel is a COUNTRY which aims to PROTECT ITS PEOPLE-Israelis and Palestinians alike. The kidnapping of Gilad Shalit means that Israel is taking NO CHANCES with tunnels and anyway they are a breach of the blockade. If Hamas wants no blockade they should remove their charter which aims to obliterate israel
@mujtahid2006 Also, Egypt enforces the ceasefire too, however, where is 'the solution to Egypt?'. Is your anti-israel video an excuse for an anti-semetic agenda? The blockade isn't there to stop supplies getting to innocent people, but to stop Hamas making bombs which could harm not only Israel but other countries. If Hamas decided on peace; Israel would lift the blockade but it can't until it knows that Hamas isn't intent on killing its citizens.
Amnesty International disagrees with you - they monitor the situation and say that the blockade has caused food and medicine shortages. Tunnels are used to smuggle FOOD and medicines!! As for HAMAS, they offered Israel an 80 year ceasefire(!) in the return for withdrawal from the West bank and violation of Gaza airspace - guess what? Israel refused - so much for peace, Zionists prefer land (preferably other people's).
anti-Israel = anti-semitic? Isn't that getting a little tired?
@mujtahid2006 perhaps the blockade has caused food and medicine shortages but if HAMAS WASN'T INTENT ON DESTROYING ISRAEL FOR PURE HATE then Israel AND EGYPT could remove the blockade, however Israel won't remove a blockade if it will harm its people. Gilad Shalit- the kidnapped Israeli soldier has been held captive by Hamas by 5 years and Israel arent going to take any more chances when it comes to Hamas kidnapping their soldiers/
'INTENT ON DESTROYING ISRAEL FOR PURE HATE' - I wonder what made the Palestinians hate the Zionists in the first place? Surely the Palestinians didn't just wake up one day and say 'Hey, lets hate Zionists, just for a laugh!'...try to wake up from your blind love of zionism....
@mujtahid2006 my love of zionism isnt blind- your hate of zionism is blind. I dont know much about the Qur'an but weren't the Jews 'the children of israel' and thus promised the holy land? They were in the bible. Im not talking about the Palestinians here, we were talking about Hamas
Check ynetnews and haaretz, who reported both stories of 30 year truces in return for Israeli withdrawal from the west bank. Oh, and please explain what the justification is for Israel to build settlements in occupied land - running against the U.N charter? Yep, it's called stealing and ethnic cleansing...
@mujtahid2006 Firstly Hamas offered a TEN year truce.When Israel still occupied Gaza, Hamas promised Israel a truce if it could have control of Gaza. Israel listened and was met by a barrage of rockets and the kidnapping of one of its soldiers. I dont think there is a justification for settlements in the West bank- I oppose them too, but what about the jewish family killed in a west bank settlement? Yep its called brutal murder and slaughtering
@mujtahid2006 and you cannot even try to deny that Hamas is an anti semetic organisation when their charter includes '"The time will not come until Muslims will fight the Jews [and kill them]; until the Jews hide behind rocks and trees, which will cry: Oh Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, come on and kill him!' PLEASE get your facts right before you start blindly supporting terrorist VERY ANTI-SEMETIC organisations.
I never said I support Hamas, I just make clear that Israel is the cause of the problems due to it's racist 'Israel is a jewish state' policies. As for that quote, it comes from a prophesy of the future, it is not a commandment, and it does not refer to all Jews, just a group of them who will kill Muslims, and be destroyed because of their injustice....
@mujtahid2006 NO jews want to kill muslims but that quote proves that Hamas does (or will want to) kill Jews and no matter how you try to sugar-coat it, it IS an anti-semetic agenda or prophesy if thats what you want to call it.
Well, now the Pro-American (pro-Israel) dictator, Hosni Mubarak is gone, it seems Egypt has lifted the blockade on it's border. How sweet Freedom is! :)
Israel is constantly abusing Palestinians at check points, taking their land, bulldozing their homes, assassinating their politicians, and bombing and intimidating them with warplanes - and you have the gall to say Israel only fires back in retaliation!! That's like saying that Ghadafi only fires back 'in retaliation'...
@mujtahid2006 o please, you could hardly describe Hosni Mubarak as pro-Israel ,get your facts straight! Israel will defend itself by any means necessary against Hamas whose charter includes 'abolishing Israel and the Jews'. Please remember that Israel handed the Gaza strip over to the terrorist organisation Hamas and if you want to support a hate-invoking terrorist organisation then more fool you. But do not poison the internet with your biased, misinformed, hate-inciting drivel.
Simple question - which organisation has killed more civilians? Hamas or Israel? (if all human life is equal - yes Goyim too), then who has taken more human life? Which one has evicted more humans from land?
The way anyone who is non-fascist would see it - Israel is the bigger Terrorist organisation. So tell me, if USA says its ok to get rid of Terrorists, then how can I not agree with the US and also support the disbanding of the Terrorist organisation of Israel.
@mujtahid2006 Hamas is believed to have killed more than five hundred people in more than 350 separate terrorist attacks since 1993. Please realize that Israel doesn't seek to kill innocent civilians-it only attempts to kills Hamas which has no right to exist. In contrast, Hamas is happy to kill Israeli civilians on the basis that 'they don't have a right to be there'. O and if you agree with the US, 'genius' you will realize Hamas as the true terrorist organisation.
Israel shot unarmed protestors from Syria and Lebanon for approaching their land - it would seem they are not different from Hamas in the slightest. Go find another excuse, surely you can invent better falsehoods that the ones you have been using up until now.
@mujtahid2006 wow it took you a whole month to think of that-pathetic. If you're such an activist then go over there and do something! I have visited Israel & volunteered there. O and if again, if you're such an activist where are your videos on the awful treatment of muslim women in Saudi Arabia? Or the muslims in Ethiopia who have it much worse than in Israel! Get a life. Get up & do something instead of making videos!
@1xxdebzxx1 Israel had no problem funding Hamas when it considered the PLO its main enemy. Research this for yourself. The Zionist entity's gameplan has always been to divide and rule in occupied Palestine with some scraps of power thrown to its Palestinian lapdogs.
You see now the true face of Israel when it sees Fatah and Hamas reconcile for the common good. They say there can be no peace now. Funny, I don't remember any peace being offered before.
@Bloodlustless How can two terrorist organisations be advocating 'the common good'. Before you blindly support an organisation you know NOTHING about do some research. Even with me throwing the facts in your face, you remain selective about the truth. Hamas is a terrorist organisation whos charter includes destroying JEWS as well as Israelis. Nothing they do can be for the 'common good'. They are evil terrorists so if you insist on supporting them-don't try to brainwash youtube too!
@1xxdebzxx1 citing the Hamas charter is getting as old as the charter itself which btw existed back when the Zionist Entity funded Hamas so was no barrier to dealing with them until the chance of peace raised its ugly head.
The world is fed up with your stalling. Now its onwards to a Palestinian State by the end of 2012. Theres no getting away from it. You will kill hundreds possibly thousands of ppl before that happens. I dont doubt your barbarity but justice will prevail. Palestine will rise!
@Bloodlustless I don't know if you're joking, THE ZIONISTS NEVER FOUNDED HAMAS! You're 'facts' are about as realistic as your predictions. Oh and the charter does still exist so your pathetic attempt at justifying a terrorist organisation failed.
You wish. Israel will remain a nation for a long long long time before your unjustified, ridiculous hatred rears its ugly head on a place other than youtube.
Thanks to Mossad, Hamas was allowed to reinforce its presence in the occupied territories. Meanwhile, Arafat's Fatah Movement as well as the Palestinian Left were subjected to the most brutal form of repression & intimidation.
Lets not forget that it was Israel which in fact created Hamas. According to Zeev Sternell, historian at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem, "Israel thought that it was a smart ploy to push the Islamists against the PLO"
@Bloodlustless I'm not even going to debate with you. If you think that Israel created Hamas then all the poison that comes out of your mouth is crap itself.
@1xxdebzxx1 so the Hebrew University historian is lying and poisonous? You won't debate me cos the truth hurts and you have no comeback. Israel and the US have a long history of state sponsored terror that eventually backfires on them. Hamas (and al-Qaida in the case of the US) are just the most well known. They're by no means the only ones. Israel's hands are soaked in Jewish as well as Arab blood.
@Bloodlustless No i wont debate with you because you have a warped concept of the truth and you manipulate figures so ludicrously to support your opinions. I'm happy to debate with intelligent, open-minded people but not idiots like you.
@1xxdebzxx1 Ahmed Yassin, the spiritual leader of the Islamist movement in Palestine, returning from Cairo in the seventies, established an Islamic charity association. Prime Minister Golda Meir, saw this as a an opportunity to counterbalance the rise of Arafat’s Fatah movement. .According to the Israeli weekly Koteret Rashit (October 1987), "The Islamic associations as well as the university had been supported and encouraged by the Israeli military authority"
@Bloodlustless how in any way is that proof that 'ISRAEL FOUNDED HAMAS'?!?! they did NOT found it! And if you believe everything that you believe in newspapers that noones ever even heard of then no wonder you have a warped sense of the truth
@1xxdebzxx1 Tell you what. Since you need your hand held to find out the truth: Google this and come back with what you find "israel helped create hamas".
@Bloodlustless how in any way is that proof that 'ISRAEL FOUNDED HAMAS'?!?! they did NOT found it! And if you believe everything that you read in newspapers that noones ever even heard of then no wonder you have a warped sense of the truth
@Bloodlustless Onwards to full scale war you mean. Even if the UN grants 1967 borders and if Israel were to accept, Gaza and the West Bank would still be divided by Israel and the right of return for Palestinians would be off the table.
When 20 000 000 are dead, with another 100 000 000 sick and starving, and the holiest sites of the Islamic, Judaic, and Christian faith destroyed or irradiated, I wonder if you'll really believe justice has prevailed.
Of course, no peace without justice, and no justice without fighting against injustice. Never said Islam was a religion of pacificism. And the U.S, Europe and other countries around the world, all believe in fighting for the sake of peace; except with Islam, we acxtually care about justice, not oil or money. Have a nice day :)
You speak well, we have always been victims of oppression and control. They have dumbed us down by creating fear tactics such as WMDs, al-kaida, terrorist .... and what have you. There is no solution, the word of God stands firm and heavens war is infinite. A war for your soul. There is no true religious sytem for they are all copies of the past. The plan is a one world society, but whose plan is it Gods or Lucifers??
@baretta1983 AL Qaida is not a "fear tactic" go read about SHiekh Usama bin Ladins life, how he left 20 billion dollar fortune to fight the Russians and now USA. Lookup michale scheuer head of CIA on youtube
@frozenimran I will look into it. But I am certain that Islam is dominated by an unknown and hidden brotherhood. You can see now that the north africans and arabs are starting to wake up. Victums of oppression under aristocratic dictatorship since lawrence of arabia.
@baretta1983 Since 1924 the Muslim worlds been under Dictators who were setup by europeans after they conquered that part of the world and setup 57 secular dictatorships.
Al Qaida is seen as a freedom movement to lift the dictators and USA support them out of the middle east
"Religion is merely the shadow of the universe laid on human intelligence" V. Hugo.
The only way to become at peace is to leave this backward, barbaric doctrine. We live on a tiny little planet. Much more is waiting outside. When you indoctrinated moron will understand that, you gonna understand how stupid it is to fight for such a little piece of land.
the lions of islam are waking up. the umar al khattab, abubakr saddiq, khalid ibn waleed and salahuddeen al ayuubi of our time will be here shortly inshallah ( some are already here )
what a fool. yes 6 million "zionists" in a seas of a half a billion muslims and Israel is dominating? stupid muslims speak with their hearts not their brains. if more muslim misery is needed so be it
exposemyfoes, I know, but All muslims think of themselves as a Nation, The Nation of Islam, therefore they are a race.And they are a race in the view of the Koran.
You are crazy mate, just have a look at history, Israel did bit the shit out of arabs in 67 and 73, I they will do it again, no problem, you know why because they have god on their side, god brought them back and planted them in his land as it's written in the bible.
@bello1981 i guess god was on the side of the 40'000 muslims who destroyed the 250'000 romans and destroyed the persian empire israel will lose in the end
@bello1981 you try to convince these people that israel is the land god gave the jew's and they will say that the jews stole the land from the palenstine people but palenstine was never a state and until recently they never called themselves palenstine people the british ruled the land and the world leader gave it to the jews in 1948 they stole nothing from noone how could they the jews had no army
What is upsetting is that people assume every Jew hates Islam and every muslim hates the Jews. G-d made each an every one of us, why can we just share? and love each other as G-d loves each one of us?
Peace will come only when Muslims will get into their heads that they are not the owners of the world, or the master race. It will come only when the web of Muslim lies will be dismantled.
You advocate the impeachment of "these rulers". So why don't you not obey your highest tyrann, allah, the mafia boss, who threatens you to be tortured for eternity, unless you accept the muslim faith, the one, who wants his people to be killed and suicidal, to be hateful, to be intolerant. THAT is the bigger tyrant.
Impeach the clerics and the hamas leaders. THAT would be a really important goal. Only then peace may find a way into the conflict.
@Calmlikeabomb1891 no muslim believes that its just muslim land jews christians and muslims should live their in peace cos we're all abrahamic faiths but even jewish rabbis r against the state of israel because they believe their not allowed to possess land till the messiah comes
good luck trying to drive the jews out. Egypt and Syria tried twice, the Palestinians tried, Iran tries but fails time and time again, and Gog, from the land of Magog (aka the Islamic Ummah) will try, only to fail and perish, along with every 5 out of 6 muslims. Bottom line, as long as YHWH stands in the heavens, Israel will stand on Earth.
im a jew and i dont like the Zionist
jews are not=Zionist
Zionist can be anyone muslim jew or chris
Kobi12131 2 weeks ago
questions.
1. why you brought Christian theology as you mentioned bible? Bible consists not only Torah but also New Testament. Judaism has different mindset and Israel is Judaism in majority.
2. why don't other muslim countries receive these refugees long ago? They call em "brothers and sisters". Why not Iran, Iraq, Saudi, Indonesia, Malaysia, Pakistan etc etc open for them?
deestilo 2 weeks ago
"Till the flag of Islam once again flies in Al-Quds", "Al Quds/Jerusalem" which is not even mentioned ONCE in the Quran lol.
darkprinz87 1 month ago
I think the purpose of having israel exist in the midst of these arab lands and the purpose for this conflict is to herald the coming of the true era of peace on earth. If the world sees that the Jews and Muslims make peace, then world peace is right around the corner. We must work toward this together, but in order to do so, Israel will have to become more Torah Observant (which it is in the process of) and the Muslims will have to respect Israel's PEACEFUL existence. Muslims can also live in
mhasson33 3 months ago
nsibility to uphold the Torah values. Anyone is free to convert to Judaism, so it definitely has nothing to do with a racist superiority. I am still new and learning about all the concepts but I really see no true sentiments of superiority. There are even 7 laws for all humanity passed down from Noah and according the Talmud a gentile who upholds these laws earns the same share in the world to come. Islam does uphold these laws, except for the extremists that target civilians.
mhasson33 3 months ago
I have a question. Do muslims believe that Israel is the homeland of the Jews if they were to live there under a proper Torah state? I was told that in the past one of the Muslim leaders offered this to the Jewish people and offered to rebuild the temple but I am not sure if that is true
mhasson33 3 months ago
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mhasson33 3 months ago
lol @get a life
Jiannamarie1 4 months ago
There is a book "Palaestina ex Monumentis Veteribus Illustrata"
written by Adriaan Reeland in 1695 (not mistake - in 1695).
He said in his book that in nearly 2500 settlements of Palestine at that time the most of population were jews, the rest were christians and only very little were muslims (beduins).
So this is definitely jewish land!
Arabs came later, when there was jewish majority in Palestine, but now they complain that jews occupied Palestine.
Palestinians are liers!
CleverManX 4 months ago
there is no solution in the middle east, They are underdeveloped unevolvoled and asically barbaric in all things. Kiliings and bombings will continue. has for generation. Been when your stupid antics spill into and on to AMERICAN SOIL, YOU HAD BETTER BAR THE DOORS CUZ HERE WE COM. wE DONT WANT YOUR OIL, WE HAVE MORE THE YELLOWSTONE PARK AREA THAT YOU HAVE. sO YOU SHOULD SPEND YOUR EFFORTS OR KILLING THE EXTREMISTS IN YOUR COUNTRY BEFORE WE HAVE TO.
hadjivids 6 months ago
You, sir, are using the name of the Lord in vain. How can you be so arrogant as to claim with certainty that your violent plan is what G-d desires? The part calling for the overthrow of dictators was nice actually. However your 48-1 rhetoric at the end is a wonderful way to start WW3. It seems to me that the Qu'ran and every other holy book would support 1) The Arab countries taking in the Palestinians by charity. 2) Otherwise, the progressing 2-state solution. You stand as an obstacle to peace.
zepstein 6 months ago 3
@zepstein
Israel is building settlements on the West Bank - there is no way the Palestinians will ever get a state now - I propose the one state solution. One complete Palestine.
mujtahid2006 6 months ago
@mujtahid2006 Why do Israeli settlements rule out a Palestinian state? I'd imagine that regardless, the 1967 borders are being discusses in talks. Obama didn't say anything new in his latest Middle East speech. It is just that letting out the word is unfavorable, as once you throw in your biggest chip, it's touch to negotiate.
What does your 'one complete Palestine' look like, and how does it come about?
zepstein 6 months ago
@mujtahid2006 I propose that you shut the hell up and learn to answer my questions. oops you dont seem to have a comeback when im right. Shame.
1xxdebzxx1 6 months ago 6
0:00-1:30 No, we actually hate Hamas because they call for our destruction. They do not accept the 1967 borders- that is clearly false. You remind me of Hitler- a very charismatic figure using provocative words like 'domination', 'destroy', 'hate' and replacing "The Jew" with "The Zionists". If you think Israelis see the Palestinians as animals, I can't imagine how the neighboring Arab countries see the Palestinians. And no Palestinian even calls for the destruction of those Arab countries.
zepstein 6 months ago 6
@zepstein
Zepstein, you can't play the 'aint-semitic' card here and you know it. The excuse is getting pretty thin now. This has never been about Jews - this has been about the fascist ideology of Zionism. Zionists believes they are a special chosen people who have a special entitlement to a "fatherland", and must kick out all those who are different to them - sound familiar?
mujtahid2006 6 months ago
@mujtahid2006 actually the JEWS were promised Israel and are the 'children of Israel' so get your facts straight because you are in fact being anti-semetic you ignorant fool.
1xxdebzxx1 6 months ago 3
@mujtahid2006
Yes, this is true of some Zionists, just as it is true of some Palestinians. People on both sides feel that they are religiously entitled to the land. Yet, an ever-growing percentage of Israelis support a two-state solution.
When the Arab countries attacked Israel for 40 years, it was about Britain giving Jerusalem to the Jews. This has never been about the Palestinians. Their victimization has become a convenient tool because the wars have proven ineffective- sound familiar?
zepstein 6 months ago
@mujtahid2006 The problem I see in the Muslim world is a failure (and understandable one) to comprehend what Zionism fully is and what is going on amongst the Jewish people. (I dont expect this because many Jews themselves are ignorant). However, there is currently a reawakening going on amongst the Jewish people that is no doubt inspired by Hashem's orchestration of history and Israel has been a huge part of that. Judaism is finding itself and the real Jews know that "chosen" only means a respo
mhasson33 3 months ago
@zepstein Well said, & King Hussain of Jordan killed more Palestinians than Israel has in its existence in a genocidal event called "Black September" alone. Yet no "Death to Jordan" from anyone...
darkprinz87 1 month ago
WAHHHHHH
ilizashlesingerrocks 6 months ago
biggest open "prison" lol
have you check'd the houses hamas leader lives in?
i love how your facts allways twisted for your own side
REALLRAPMUSIC 7 months ago 2
If you are so concerned about the oppression of Palestinians, where are your videos on the oppression of muslims in Sudan etc?Or the disgusting oppression of muslim women in Iraq, Iran and Saudi Arabia?Israel may have its faults but so do other countries!Might i add that Israel is the only democratic middle-eastern country where gays and other minorities can safely live.Oppression is far worse in other middle-eastern countries than it is in Israel so stop finding excuses to spew ridiculous hate.
1xxdebzxx1 8 months ago 3
@1xxdebzxx1
I accept that everyone has faults, and I believe that faults must be fixed - The occupation of Palestine is a fault, it must be fixed.
mujtahid2006 7 months ago
@mujtahid2006 let's call them what they are: 'Other Arabs Who Can't Accomplish Anything In Life And Would Rather Wrap Themselves In The Seductive Melodrama Of Eternal Struggle And Death.' Okay, so the Adjacent Jew-Haters want their own country. Oops, just one more thing: No, they don't. They could've had their own country. Anytime in the last thirty years, especially several years ago at Camp David. But If you have your own country, you have to have traffic lights and garbage trucks.
hadjivids 7 months ago
And Chambers of Commerce, and, worse, you actually have to figure out some way to make a living.That's no fun. No, they want what all the other Jew-Haters in the region want: Israel. They also want a big pile of dead Jews, of course that's where the Real fun is -- but mostly they want Israel.
Why? For one thing, trying to destroy Israel - or 'The Zionist Entity' as their textbooks call it -- for the last fifty years has allowed the rulers of Arab Countries to divert the attention
hadjivids 7 months ago
for the last fifty years has allowed the rulers of Arab Countries to divert the attention of their own people away from the fact that they're the blue-ribbon most illiterate, poorest, and tribally backward on God's Earth.
It makes me roll my eyes every time one of our pundits waxes poetic about the great history and culture of the Muslim Mideast. Unless I'm missing something, the Arabs haven't given anything to the world since Algebra, and, thanks a hell of a lot for that one.
hadjivids 7 months ago
I would love to discuss this issue. Time and again I have been banned by muslims because of my support for the legitimate right of the existance of Israel founded thjousands of years ago by the jewish King David with Yerushalayim being trhe holiest capital and home to the Jewish People which Islam denies and wishes to re name Al Quds.
BGfromGB 8 months ago
@BGfromGB
Who gave Israel the 'right' to kick out the inhabitants of Canaan/Palestine? Prove to me that 'Israel' has more legitimacy to live there without asking the inhabitants permission? Please answer without imposing your religion onto me.
mujtahid2006 8 months ago
@mujtahid2006 Firstly, I belong to no religion. Secondly, why do you put the name Israel in brackets? Or are you trying to tell the readers that Israel as a state never historically existed?
BGfromGB 8 months ago
@mujtahid2006 You said it, "the inhabitants". No such thing as a Palestinian. Israel was called Palestine for two thousand years. Like 'Wiccan,' 'Palestinian' sounds ancient but is really a modern invention. Before the Israelis won the land in the 1967 war, Gaza was owned by Egypt , the West Bank was part of Jordan, and there were no Palestinians.
As soon as the Jews took over, what do you know, say hello to the 'Palestinians,' weeping for their deep bond with their lost 'land' and 'nation.'
hadjivids 7 months ago
@hadjivids
Wrong - from 717 BC archeological evidence from the Annals of Sargon II'': records the region as Palashtu or Pilistu. That means for 2700 years the area was a distinct piece of land called Palestine.
"Israelis won the land" - well, if you think conquest gives people rights over a land, then you would agree it is perfectly legitimate for us to win it back.
Secondly, the land was also called 'Canaan' before Israelites invaded and massacred the inhabitants...history repeats itself
mujtahid2006 6 months ago
As-Salam Alaikum!
I think some our brother are extremely too optimistic. I think we should start a caliphate in central Africa and spread from there.
Our leaders are depending on western systems of governing, when ALLAH(s.w.t) has already giving us a system.
Of course the Zionist bankers that rule the world would be highly upset, because a caliphate would directly oppose their oppression, but too bad.
The Ummah have to come together! Thanks for the message, brother!
Salam.
JabrilAbdullah 9 months ago
It's easy for Andalusi to cry and beg others to clean the streets for him, but he's not even close to taking on the task himself. Right now he's just working to keep others from tearing down his own house and the best he has to hope for is others not caring about his house and maybe allowing him to keep his frontyard and few steps of his sidewalk clean.
GodHasNoFavorites 9 months ago
@GodHasNoFavorites
"Right now he's just working to keep others from tearing down his own house"
If I was a palestinian, then you comment would be literally true. Go study what is happening before hating on people.
mujtahid2006 9 months ago
@mujtahid2006 cute diversion, but the situation in many ways a microcosm for whats going on between the west and Muslims ingeneral.
Im pretty sure I have a greater grasp of this conflict than you.
GodHasNoFavorites 9 months ago
@GodHasNoFavorites
"Im pretty sure I have a greater grasp of this conflict than you"
Argument by 'authority' - an argument as pathetic as it's basis.
mujtahid2006 9 months ago
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I think the whole an analogy of "dirty houses" at 8:22 speaks volumes about Abdullah's belief for an invasive Islam. Inevitably this belief turns into an almost germaphoebic paranoia where the streets are clean, and then a need is felt to attack the houses of those who could potentially bring dirt onto the streets.
GodHasNoFavorites 9 months ago
@GodHasNoFavorites
My analogy is referring to Morals and Ethics, which Jews and Christians share with us actually. As for what people do in their houses, it is up to them, as long as they keep the streets tidy :)
I can always tell the mentality of someone by how they interpret things. And it seems to me, sir, that you probably view Islam as a disease that should be eradicated in some 'final solution' manner? Right?
mujtahid2006 9 months ago
@mujtahid2006 Christians and Jews largely learned acceptance or have kept things to their own houses.
Actually I only see your brand of Salafi Islam as a disease that should probably be eradicated. Not that I advocate violence but I think an infrastructure and regulations should be put in place to discourage many of you from hypocritically sticking around and causing discord between everyone and the other majority Muslim communities.
GodHasNoFavorites 9 months ago
@GodHasNoFavorites
"I think...regulations should be put in place to discourage many of you"
Hmm...I see you support freedom of expression...
mujtahid2006 9 months ago
@mujtahid2006 For the most part I support it but I understand it has limitations. Can't have a very good functioning society where people threaten people with murder freely on a regular basis.
I have no issue with denying certain expressions of those who would use purposely to undermine social cohesion and infact take away freedom of expression of everyone entirely based on a religion.
GodHasNoFavorites 8 months ago
@GodHasNoFavorites
You have refuted your own ideology. The reason Liberalism allows free expression is in the belief that the stronger ideas will always win in open discussion. Cos Liberalism views itself as the 'strongest idea', this makes it confident about full open discussion. If you say that Liberalism cannot win arguments, and people may be swayed by false ideas - then the very basis for allowing open discussion no longer exists. And Liberalism then is revealed as a failure. nice
mujtahid2006 8 months ago
@mujtahid2006 That's not entirely what freedom of expression is and nobody is talking about denying open discussion and debate. There's huge difference between a group like NAMBLA holding a debate at a community center much like the MDI and them going to public schools or playgrounds with signs, espousing the merits of pedophilia to children and inciting parents.
I never made an argument for Liberalism and there is room for schools of thought in Liberalism just like there is for Islam.
GodHasNoFavorites 8 months ago
@GodHasNoFavorites
Yes, there are different schools of thought, but at least in Islam, our schools of thought do not contradict the main tenets of Islam. According to Liberalism, Free expression cannot be impinged because humans using free will, Intellect and left free from physical harm - would never sanction evil upon others...this is the reason Free Speech is allowed, if you disagree with this, then you must reject Liberalism itself. Have a nice day :)
mujtahid2006 8 months ago
@mujtahid2006 Where's the contradiction? Your making a straw-man arguments about Liberalism. It's only "the belief in the importance of liberty and equal rights" nothing more. Beyond that everything is a school of thought.
GodHasNoFavorites 8 months ago
Some of you need to be deported to countries like Afghanistan or Somalia inorder to see the fruit of the Salafi dream in the modern day.
GodHasNoFavorites 9 months ago
@GodHasNoFavorites
Most Muslims are not Salafi - but support Islam, and justice for the Palestinians.
mujtahid2006 9 months ago
@mujtahid2006 but they dont agree on what Islam or that Justice should look like.
GodHasNoFavorites 8 months ago
@GodHasNoFavorites
The Political components of Islam are more agreed on, then the West has agreement on it's own political philosophies. ALL Muslims want the Zionists out - this is not something Muslims even debate amongst ourselves. Do your research before speaking.
mujtahid2006 8 months ago
@mujtahid2006 says The Political components of Islam are more agreed on. Islam is a religious entity just as the Quran says. It is not and should force its religious doctrine/ideology on other political persusaions.. Example: If I were a muslim living in the Far East, say Japan, then as a "Japanese muslim" living in Japan, have no right to dictate to the people living in Israel, who I as a muslim say that "Zionist" Jews have no right to be part of the Jewish Holy Land?
BGfromGB 8 months ago
@BGfromGB
You don't have to be a Muslim to criticise Israel - in fact most critics of Islam, are just common Justice loving folk. What Israel is doing is wrong, not because the Quran says so, but because Justice says so. Now, please tell me, how the State of Israel coming to existence forcefully against the settled inhabitants, is morally legitimate?
mujtahid2006 8 months ago
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@mujtahid2006 I also criticise Israel when the need arises. But by the same token I criticise Hamas and its racist charter. U then say please tell me, how the State of Israel coming to existence. No sir Israel never came into existence, It has been in existence since time immemorial. Read your Quran if you don't believe the history books.
BGfromGB 8 months ago
@BGfromGB
I do read history books - and it seems that prior to 1200 BC, there are no Hebrews there. Then they invaded and massacred the Canaanites (how little has changed...) and were kicked out by other invading powers, until they were finally kicked out around 200 AD. All in all, there longest extent of a United Israel, only lasted a hundreds years in this entire period! 1030 BC–930 BC.
So much for time immemorial. Oh and btw- the Palestinians are descendants from the region (genetically
mujtahid2006 8 months ago
@mujtahid2006 And YHWH said Abram "Go yourself out of your land from your vrtelatives...to a land which I show U. And I shall make U a great nation, and blessyou...and bless you and curse him who curses you. And in you all the clans of the earth will be blessed.
Remember ur servants Abraham,Isaac,& Israel, to whom u swore...I will make ur descendants...I WILL YOUR DESCENDANTS ALL THIS land I promised them, it will be their inheritance forever Ex 32:13.
BGfromGB 8 months ago
@BGfromGB
Do not impose your religion on others who do not follow it.
mujtahid2006 8 months ago
@mujtahid2006 I'm not imposing "my" religion. I belong to no religion. Nor were Moses, Abraham, isaac and Jacob None belonged to a "religion" I'm just quoting historical facts from scriptures just as you muslims do when quoting Mohammed from historical documents known as the Hadiths.
BGfromGB 8 months ago
@BGfromGB
Being of no religion, then I'm sure that you disbelieve that God said to Abraham to conquer the land. If you do believe that God commanded the Israelites to conquer Canaan, and this entitles them to kick out anyone living there no matter what today, then this is nothing but imposing one's beliefs on to others.
mujtahid2006 8 months ago
@mujtahid2006 Bein of no religion does not mean that i disbelieve what The almighty said or commanded. The YHWH never commanded Abraham to "conquer" any land. If you know so much about the Bible, you should know that. In fact why don't you study your own Holy Book where it clearly states who the land belongs to and how the scattered around will be regathered in the land according to YHWH's covenant he made with his chosen people.
BGfromGB 8 months ago
@mujtahid2006 that force was the reaction of Arab Muslim rioting and surrounding nations declaring war unto the state to be. Where was the morality in that when it was infact the original Zionists who were buying up the land legally and making deals with leaders like King Faisal with authority.
GodHasNoFavorites 8 months ago
@GodHasNoFavorites
Muslims do not recognise the deals done by our Western-appointed/backed dictators, and we do not recognise that injustice should be accepted merely because it happened in the past, lastly, we do not recognise colonisation and occupation. Say what you want, Israel's time will come - like the Crusader States (even though they lasted for over 100 years!).
mujtahid2006 8 months ago
@mujtahid2006 You don't speak for Muslims anymore than Saddam or Gadhaffi. Both were/are evil Muslims that became western backed due to the power and recognition they had established among their people beforehand. This is a fact you conveniently choose to ignore.
All states time will come. Israel's though unlikely to end in the manner you wish and within the time frame you would hope for.
GodHasNoFavorites 8 months ago
@GodHasNoFavorites
The Crusaders held onto a much bigger land than Israle those, and for over 100 years - their time came to an end nonetheless.
mujtahid2006 7 months ago
@mujtahid2006 all nations, cultures, religions change or come to and end at some point. I don't expect Israel to be around forever.
Unlike the crusaders however they do have nukes and all manner of other weapons so to believe in this day and age that the Jewish state will be toppled by some Pan-Islamist army led by Salafi's such as yourself is simply absurd.
GodHasNoFavorites 7 months ago
When everyone in the region got their independence from the Ottoman Empire what right did Arab Muslims have to deny those Jews who had been living there for hundreds of years their autonomy, and by what right did they have to rule them and say to them that their Jewish brothers from overseas can't move in with them?
GodHasNoFavorites 8 months ago
Your complaint is that instead of targeting their guns on the Zionists these Arab rulers train there guns on their own people. This is not a message of peace. Good democratic Arabs should continue to protest these rulers so that their guns are not trained on ANYONE! If Islam is a religion of peace I guess you are some other religion. The answer is peace. Not violence, not terror and not hate.
lonishar 9 months ago
@lonishar
You cannot get peace without Justice, and you cannot get justice without fighting for it. The answer is Peace, yes- but that is only the end stage. Israel does not advocate pacifism, neither the the West, nor the U.S, so how dare you ask us to do something you cannot and will not do?
mujtahid2006 9 months ago
@mujtahid2006 If by Justice you mean murdering Jews then your right, if by Justice you mean we sign an agreement and agree on land and other issues then what do you wish to fight for and push off peace? So what is justice to you and what are you hiding? Israel advocates peace, we all dream of it. but until we have that we won't be fools and put our guns down isn't that obvious?
lonishar 9 months ago
@lonishar
No it's not murdering of Jews, and you know it. Justice is not having had your parents kicked out of their land, justice is not being deprived of your house because the Occupation forces never gave you a permit (!), justice is having a fair share of the water supplies in West Bank, Justice is not being blockaded, justice is having the right to return to your house, justice is not being abused as checkpoints, justice is not being shot by Israeli snipers/settlers. Go learn the meaning
mujtahid2006 9 months ago
@mujtahid2006 Most left on their own will. you have to say what you want, not what you don't want. Still I believe this all can be worked out in a peace deal, everything from water supplies, to borders, end to checkpoints, and with peace as long as they stop shooting at us, we would not need to shoot back. they would have their own police. Other than people actually returning to homes they left, I think we agree so why not come to the table and make peace????
lonishar 9 months ago
@lonishar
"Most [Palestinians] left on their own will"
That's like me saying that most Jews left Nazi Germany of their own will!...and yes, the analogy is apt.
"I believe this all can be worked out in a peace deal"
How about the Zionists leave? We all know what the Israeli 'peace deal' means. At best it is the Palestinians being consigned to reservations (like the US did to the Indians), at worst, it means the total eradication of Palestine from the map.
mujtahid2006 9 months ago
@mujtahid2006 No it is not a good analogy at all. The germans killed 6 million jews. The Jews were not waging a war against germany. It was simply racist hate. The Arab's could not accept a non Islamic entity in Israel. (even though the Koran says it is our land) and so they waged war on us! During the war Arabs were afraid and left, they thought they would return as Israel was defeated! Bad choice! (part 1)
lonishar 8 months ago
@mujtahid2006 Wait make up your mind, you just said you wan't peace with justice but when I show you that peace would bring Justice you come up with some other bull shit? No not at all like reservations, Israel has ageed to give a people who never had their own state 98% of the west bank, is that not Justice enough? Eradicaton WTF are you lying for? if we wanted this we could have kicked out all the Arabs years ago.
lonishar 8 months ago
@mujtahid2006 you can get peace without justice. It's called, acceptance, moving on, or death. Justice is a perception. Many different groups throughout history died having never realized the justice that they felt was rightfully theirs.
GodHasNoFavorites 9 months ago
@GodHasNoFavorites
"you can get peace without justice"
Well I guess the Civil Rights and Anti-Aparteid movement was wrong then...
"Many different groups throughout history died having never realized the justice that they felt was rightfully theirs."
Perhaps, but our group is particularly noted for being unable to be eradicated, and our history bears testimony to the defeat of the unjust - given time. So why should we back down from Justice? Oh that's right, we believe in a God - do you?
mujtahid2006 9 months ago
@mujtahid2006 since when are the civil rights and anti-aparteid movements the authority on all instances of peace?
In some instances specific demands for Justice are reasonable and in others not soo much. If everyone today were to get justice they felt they deserved at the expense of one another then when all is said and done nobody would feel like they got Justice.
GodHasNoFavorites 8 months ago
@mujtahid2006 I think the Jews have quite the leg up on you as far as avoiding eradication and sticking around while their enemies end up in the dustbin of history. They also beat you many times over when it comes to unity between them.
Oh I believe in God, just not the one you subscribe to who's like some sort of overzealous father figure who will slap your older brother for stealing your lollipop.
GodHasNoFavorites 8 months ago
@mujtahid2006 Your group is very stubborn, and it matches up against the Jews who had stubbornly held on without a homeland for 2000 years! Problem is my people were willing to compromise when something reasonable was offered on many occasions (Arabs were not) and yet again your people are not willing to compromise a thing in the name of peace and security. if you keep missing opportunities, you will eventually end up losing everything. must know when to struggle and when to compromise
lonishar 8 months ago
@lonishar
Compromise can be used for somethings, but there are lines that no self-respecting people can allow to be crossed. If Mexico was to take over the USA, and import millions of Russian settlers who want to create a new 'Soviet Nation' over 70% of the US, would the Americans accept compromise? huh? No - they won't. So how could you expect the Palestinians to accept Zionist immigration without their consent, and colonisation? Ben Gurion said the same - he expected a fight - so do I.
mujtahid2006 8 months ago
@mujtahid2006 Your example is wacked. But your still talking in circles. I asked you what you call Justice, you said a number of things which I said can be worked out in a peace deal, so there is justice and peace, yet your still against it, why? and why don't you be honest and say what you really have in mind to settle this conflict once and for all?
lonishar 8 months ago
@lonishar
You ask me to be honest about what I want - yet you haven't noticed what I've been saying on my video (you know, the one of which this is just the comments section of!) lol. My video is open and honest about the real solution to the problem.
mujtahid2006 7 months ago
Over 30% of IDF officers are religious zionists, many settlers, and this is growing from almost nothing a decade ago. They are righteous people. They are not peres or netanyahoo or olmert who blundered around lebanon with no idea what to do in 2006.
They are gaining power in israel. They meet your mujahadeen on the battlefield with most determination, an iron will to defend THEIR land, and an unassailable belief in the Lord. And whether its 48:1 or 1000:1, they will win any war you impose :)
jrosen81 9 months ago
@jrosen81
We have a Prophesy that says the Tribe of Israel will again do much mischief in the World, and God will punish them via the hand of the Muslims. I don't know why you find this hard to believe, it's not like (despite all the fanatical Israelites could do) it hasn't happened before when God punished Israel through the Babylonians, Persians, Greeks, Romans etc. And you seriously believe it won't happen again? :)
mujtahid2006 9 months ago
@mujtahid2006 A convenient prophecy. Do you seriously believe it actually pertains to "Muslims" like yourself and the rest of the corrupt Ummah in this day and age?
Masada Zealots today have nuclear bombs and biological weapons.
GodHasNoFavorites 9 months ago
@GodHasNoFavorites
"Masada Zealots today have nuclear bombs and biological weapons"
Then the Muslim world we'll just have to get bigger ones - though we'd prefer to settle this like men, with conventional weapons only. An irradiated Holy land makes pilgrimage difficult. :)
mujtahid2006 9 months ago
@mujtahid2006 real men aren't stupid and know that war isn't about providing a sporting chance. Did your Ummah whine like this when the first Kaffir Crusaders came at them with guns up until the point they got some of their own? Perhaps you might consider going back to fighting with scimitar on camel back with faith alone.
GodHasNoFavorites 8 months ago
@mujtahid2006 Your living in a world of religious fantasy where each group thinks they have the truth, wake up deal with reality.
lonishar 8 months ago
@lonishar
This is not a question of truth, but a question of justice. Even if I was atheist, I would still oppose 'Israel', and many atheists agree with me.
mujtahid2006 7 months ago
so your solution is total war?
your quote at 9:50 "we have many armies... we outnumber the zionists 48:1 in terms of military strength, we can end this tomorrow if we wanted to"
your armies have tried and failed repeatedly when israel was far weaker and this ratio was far higher. Now that israel has a rapidly increasing technological advantage not to mention 2nd strike nuclear capability (submarine launched nukes) you think that shouting alla akbar or waving the koran around will help you?
jrosen81 9 months ago
they dont hate hamas because they 'dare to speak against them' they hate hamas because they bomb Israel and kill its citizens !
1xxdebzxx1 9 months ago
@1xxdebzxx1
Then shouldn't we hate Israel by that same token?
mujtahid2006 9 months ago
@mujtahid2006 no because israel only ever bombs in DEFENCE whereas Hamas bombs to eradicate the Israeli nation for no other reason than pure hate and anti-semitism
1xxdebzxx1 9 months ago
@1xxdebzxx1
Let me get this straight, when Israel kicks out palestinians out of their family homes, supplies 80% of the West bank's water to the 20% growing illegal Israeli settlers population, uses cluster bombs on cities, and imposes a bloackade on gaza, preventing mostly FOOD & medicine products from entering; this is defensive?
However, when Hamas fire a few puny and pathetic firework-sized rockets - they are trying to eliminate israel with them?! Mate, you seriously need help...
mujtahid2006 9 months ago
@mujtahid2006 o PLEASE. its PREVENTATIVE- PREVENTING Hamas gaining weapons that would kill Israelis. Israel has NEVER kicked palestinians out of their family homes i think its YOU that needs help. And these 'puny' rockets arent so 'pathetic' when hundreds of them are being fired each day, killing Israelis. Youre facts are wrong, youre argument is wrong and finally YOU are wrong.
1xxdebzxx1 9 months ago
@1xxdebzxx1
Two words - Sheikh Jarrah area in East Jerusalem (just for a recent example) - Israel kicked out Palestinians, and the UN itself has condemned it - go do you homework.
As for the Protest rockets, how many Israelis have died in the last month of 'hundreds of rockets'? And how many Palestinians have died in the last WEEK due to Israel? If all life is equal and sacred, who is the worst killer between Israel and Palestine?
mujtahid2006 9 months ago
@mujtahid2006 have a look at the number of Israelis killed in Palestinian terrorist attacks, maybe its you who should do your homework. I don't deny that Israel makes some mistakes but there is NO such thing as the perfect democracy-find me one government who has never made a mistake and then i'll stop defending israel. Exactly:it will never happen.
1xxdebzxx1 9 months ago
You criticize the blockade but fail to mention that Egypt enforces the blockade too. Additionally, the awful treatment of people in Gaza is due to the holocaust-denying, anti-semetic, TERRORIST ORGANISATION HAMAS. Furthermore, 50 ROCKETS are fired at Israel every day, and having visited the country many times myself, I have seen the detrimental affects that this has on a country. Israel only ever fires back in retaliation to defend itself. It never initiates violence. Long live Israel.
1xxdebzxx1 9 months ago 2
@1xxdebzxx1
Read your history sir, you are wrong, Israel bombed HAMAS, and refused to stick to peace agreements clauses, that the blockade be lifted, BEFORE Hamas we're forced re-initiated rocket launches in protest.
Tell me, how much infrastructural damage as HAMAS's puny rockets caused in Israel? Why don't you go to Gaza and see what REAL damage (and death) looks like in a city. Then you'll see the reason they resist the fascist race-centric state of Israel.
mujtahid2006 9 months ago
@mujtahid2006 I have read my history 'sir' and it is in fact YOU that is wrong. Where are you getting your facts from? Additionally, what 'peace agreements clauses' are you referring to? Israel's bombing of Gaza is only EVER in retaliation in order to defend itself like any other country has the right to do. Their 'puny rockets' may not have had much infrastructural damage but Israel is more concerned with the DEATHS OF ITS CITIZENS which the rockets cause.
1xxdebzxx1 9 months ago
@1xxdebzxx1
Hamas is concerned over the DEATH of its citizens due to lack of supplies, being prevented from entering the Gaza strip by the despicable Israeli blockade. Why don't you google '2008 Israeli-Hamas ceasefire' and see for yourself how the U.N documented Israeli breaches of the ceasefire agreement by bombing HAMAS members, and not lifting the blockade. If you confine innocent people to a prison, they will always try to break free - either peacefully, or with protest rocket fire.
mujtahid2006 9 months ago
@mujtahid2006 Israel didn't break the ceasefire first. They entered Gaza because of a tunnel which Hamas was planning to use to capture Israeli soldiers. Hamas then fired 30 rockets into Israel, proving that Hamas broke the blockade first. I agree that the confinement of innocent people in Gaza is WRONG but Israel must enforce the blockade to stop Hamas making weapons which could kill Israel's people. Hamas is a TERRORIST ORGANISATION therefore, they cant be given power.
1xxdebzxx1 9 months ago
@1xxdebzxx1
Oh, so just because Hamas had tunnels, Israel was able to see into the future and figure out that they're 'kiddnapping tunnels', as opposed to the hundreds of ANTI-BLOCKADE tunnels that Hamas have used for YEARS to smuggle food and medicine for their persecuted people. It's is time you opened your mind and stopped defending Israel blindly.
Btw- Israel is a TERRORIST ORGANISATION therefore, they shouldn't be given any power.
mujtahid2006 9 months ago
@mujtahid2006 israel is a COUNTRY which aims to PROTECT ITS PEOPLE-Israelis and Palestinians alike. The kidnapping of Gilad Shalit means that Israel is taking NO CHANCES with tunnels and anyway they are a breach of the blockade. If Hamas wants no blockade they should remove their charter which aims to obliterate israel
1xxdebzxx1 9 months ago
@mujtahid2006 Also, Egypt enforces the ceasefire too, however, where is 'the solution to Egypt?'. Is your anti-israel video an excuse for an anti-semetic agenda? The blockade isn't there to stop supplies getting to innocent people, but to stop Hamas making bombs which could harm not only Israel but other countries. If Hamas decided on peace; Israel would lift the blockade but it can't until it knows that Hamas isn't intent on killing its citizens.
1xxdebzxx1 9 months ago
@1xxdebzxx1
Amnesty International disagrees with you - they monitor the situation and say that the blockade has caused food and medicine shortages. Tunnels are used to smuggle FOOD and medicines!! As for HAMAS, they offered Israel an 80 year ceasefire(!) in the return for withdrawal from the West bank and violation of Gaza airspace - guess what? Israel refused - so much for peace, Zionists prefer land (preferably other people's).
anti-Israel = anti-semitic? Isn't that getting a little tired?
mujtahid2006 9 months ago
@mujtahid2006 perhaps the blockade has caused food and medicine shortages but if HAMAS WASN'T INTENT ON DESTROYING ISRAEL FOR PURE HATE then Israel AND EGYPT could remove the blockade, however Israel won't remove a blockade if it will harm its people. Gilad Shalit- the kidnapped Israeli soldier has been held captive by Hamas by 5 years and Israel arent going to take any more chances when it comes to Hamas kidnapping their soldiers/
1xxdebzxx1 9 months ago
@1xxdebzxx1
'INTENT ON DESTROYING ISRAEL FOR PURE HATE' - I wonder what made the Palestinians hate the Zionists in the first place? Surely the Palestinians didn't just wake up one day and say 'Hey, lets hate Zionists, just for a laugh!'...try to wake up from your blind love of zionism....
mujtahid2006 9 months ago
@mujtahid2006 my love of zionism isnt blind- your hate of zionism is blind. I dont know much about the Qur'an but weren't the Jews 'the children of israel' and thus promised the holy land? They were in the bible. Im not talking about the Palestinians here, we were talking about Hamas
1xxdebzxx1 9 months ago
@mujtahid2006 Hamas NEVER offered a ceasefire for 80 years-you need to get your facts right
1xxdebzxx1 9 months ago
@1xxdebzxx1
Check ynetnews and haaretz, who reported both stories of 30 year truces in return for Israeli withdrawal from the west bank. Oh, and please explain what the justification is for Israel to build settlements in occupied land - running against the U.N charter? Yep, it's called stealing and ethnic cleansing...
mujtahid2006 9 months ago
@mujtahid2006 Firstly Hamas offered a TEN year truce.When Israel still occupied Gaza, Hamas promised Israel a truce if it could have control of Gaza. Israel listened and was met by a barrage of rockets and the kidnapping of one of its soldiers. I dont think there is a justification for settlements in the West bank- I oppose them too, but what about the jewish family killed in a west bank settlement? Yep its called brutal murder and slaughtering
1xxdebzxx1 9 months ago
@mujtahid2006 and you cannot even try to deny that Hamas is an anti semetic organisation when their charter includes '"The time will not come until Muslims will fight the Jews [and kill them]; until the Jews hide behind rocks and trees, which will cry: Oh Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, come on and kill him!' PLEASE get your facts right before you start blindly supporting terrorist VERY ANTI-SEMETIC organisations.
1xxdebzxx1 9 months ago
@1xxdebzxx1
I never said I support Hamas, I just make clear that Israel is the cause of the problems due to it's racist 'Israel is a jewish state' policies. As for that quote, it comes from a prophesy of the future, it is not a commandment, and it does not refer to all Jews, just a group of them who will kill Muslims, and be destroyed because of their injustice....
mujtahid2006 9 months ago
@mujtahid2006 NO jews want to kill muslims but that quote proves that Hamas does (or will want to) kill Jews and no matter how you try to sugar-coat it, it IS an anti-semetic agenda or prophesy if thats what you want to call it.
1xxdebzxx1 9 months ago
@1xxdebzxx1
Well, now the Pro-American (pro-Israel) dictator, Hosni Mubarak is gone, it seems Egypt has lifted the blockade on it's border. How sweet Freedom is! :)
Israel is constantly abusing Palestinians at check points, taking their land, bulldozing their homes, assassinating their politicians, and bombing and intimidating them with warplanes - and you have the gall to say Israel only fires back in retaliation!! That's like saying that Ghadafi only fires back 'in retaliation'...
mujtahid2006 9 months ago
@mujtahid2006 o please, you could hardly describe Hosni Mubarak as pro-Israel ,get your facts straight! Israel will defend itself by any means necessary against Hamas whose charter includes 'abolishing Israel and the Jews'. Please remember that Israel handed the Gaza strip over to the terrorist organisation Hamas and if you want to support a hate-invoking terrorist organisation then more fool you. But do not poison the internet with your biased, misinformed, hate-inciting drivel.
1xxdebzxx1 8 months ago
@1xxdebzxx1
Simple question - which organisation has killed more civilians? Hamas or Israel? (if all human life is equal - yes Goyim too), then who has taken more human life? Which one has evicted more humans from land?
The way anyone who is non-fascist would see it - Israel is the bigger Terrorist organisation. So tell me, if USA says its ok to get rid of Terrorists, then how can I not agree with the US and also support the disbanding of the Terrorist organisation of Israel.
mujtahid2006 8 months ago
@mujtahid2006 Hamas is believed to have killed more than five hundred people in more than 350 separate terrorist attacks since 1993. Please realize that Israel doesn't seek to kill innocent civilians-it only attempts to kills Hamas which has no right to exist. In contrast, Hamas is happy to kill Israeli civilians on the basis that 'they don't have a right to be there'. O and if you agree with the US, 'genius' you will realize Hamas as the true terrorist organisation.
1xxdebzxx1 8 months ago
@1xxdebzxx1
Israel shot unarmed protestors from Syria and Lebanon for approaching their land - it would seem they are not different from Hamas in the slightest. Go find another excuse, surely you can invent better falsehoods that the ones you have been using up until now.
mujtahid2006 7 months ago
@mujtahid2006 wow it took you a whole month to think of that-pathetic. If you're such an activist then go over there and do something! I have visited Israel & volunteered there. O and if again, if you're such an activist where are your videos on the awful treatment of muslim women in Saudi Arabia? Or the muslims in Ethiopia who have it much worse than in Israel! Get a life. Get up & do something instead of making videos!
1xxdebzxx1 7 months ago 10
@1xxdebzxx1 Israel had no problem funding Hamas when it considered the PLO its main enemy. Research this for yourself. The Zionist entity's gameplan has always been to divide and rule in occupied Palestine with some scraps of power thrown to its Palestinian lapdogs.
You see now the true face of Israel when it sees Fatah and Hamas reconcile for the common good. They say there can be no peace now. Funny, I don't remember any peace being offered before.
Bloodlustless 8 months ago
@Bloodlustless How can two terrorist organisations be advocating 'the common good'. Before you blindly support an organisation you know NOTHING about do some research. Even with me throwing the facts in your face, you remain selective about the truth. Hamas is a terrorist organisation whos charter includes destroying JEWS as well as Israelis. Nothing they do can be for the 'common good'. They are evil terrorists so if you insist on supporting them-don't try to brainwash youtube too!
1xxdebzxx1 8 months ago
@1xxdebzxx1 citing the Hamas charter is getting as old as the charter itself which btw existed back when the Zionist Entity funded Hamas so was no barrier to dealing with them until the chance of peace raised its ugly head.
The world is fed up with your stalling. Now its onwards to a Palestinian State by the end of 2012. Theres no getting away from it. You will kill hundreds possibly thousands of ppl before that happens. I dont doubt your barbarity but justice will prevail. Palestine will rise!
Bloodlustless 8 months ago
@Bloodlustless I don't know if you're joking, THE ZIONISTS NEVER FOUNDED HAMAS! You're 'facts' are about as realistic as your predictions. Oh and the charter does still exist so your pathetic attempt at justifying a terrorist organisation failed.
You wish. Israel will remain a nation for a long long long time before your unjustified, ridiculous hatred rears its ugly head on a place other than youtube.
AM ISRAEL CHAI!
1xxdebzxx1 8 months ago
@1xxdebzxx1 Google is your friend, not me. Use it
Thanks to Mossad, Hamas was allowed to reinforce its presence in the occupied territories. Meanwhile, Arafat's Fatah Movement as well as the Palestinian Left were subjected to the most brutal form of repression & intimidation.
Lets not forget that it was Israel which in fact created Hamas. According to Zeev Sternell, historian at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem, "Israel thought that it was a smart ploy to push the Islamists against the PLO"
Bloodlustless 8 months ago
@Bloodlustless I'm not even going to debate with you. If you think that Israel created Hamas then all the poison that comes out of your mouth is crap itself.
1xxdebzxx1 8 months ago
@1xxdebzxx1 so the Hebrew University historian is lying and poisonous? You won't debate me cos the truth hurts and you have no comeback. Israel and the US have a long history of state sponsored terror that eventually backfires on them. Hamas (and al-Qaida in the case of the US) are just the most well known. They're by no means the only ones. Israel's hands are soaked in Jewish as well as Arab blood.
Bloodlustless 8 months ago
@Bloodlustless No i wont debate with you because you have a warped concept of the truth and you manipulate figures so ludicrously to support your opinions. I'm happy to debate with intelligent, open-minded people but not idiots like you.
1xxdebzxx1 8 months ago
@1xxdebzxx1 Ahmed Yassin, the spiritual leader of the Islamist movement in Palestine, returning from Cairo in the seventies, established an Islamic charity association. Prime Minister Golda Meir, saw this as a an opportunity to counterbalance the rise of Arafat’s Fatah movement. .According to the Israeli weekly Koteret Rashit (October 1987), "The Islamic associations as well as the university had been supported and encouraged by the Israeli military authority"
Bloodlustless 8 months ago
@Bloodlustless how in any way is that proof that 'ISRAEL FOUNDED HAMAS'?!?! they did NOT found it! And if you believe everything that you believe in newspapers that noones ever even heard of then no wonder you have a warped sense of the truth
1xxdebzxx1 8 months ago
@1xxdebzxx1 Tell you what. Since you need your hand held to find out the truth: Google this and come back with what you find "israel helped create hamas".
Bloodlustless 8 months ago
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@Bloodlustless how in any way is that proof that 'ISRAEL FOUNDED HAMAS'?!?! they did NOT found it! And if you believe everything that you read in newspapers that noones ever even heard of then no wonder you have a warped sense of the truth
1xxdebzxx1 8 months ago
@Bloodlustless Onwards to full scale war you mean. Even if the UN grants 1967 borders and if Israel were to accept, Gaza and the West Bank would still be divided by Israel and the right of return for Palestinians would be off the table.
When 20 000 000 are dead, with another 100 000 000 sick and starving, and the holiest sites of the Islamic, Judaic, and Christian faith destroyed or irradiated, I wonder if you'll really believe justice has prevailed.
GodHasNoFavorites 8 months ago
Why do you believe in such crap?
funny you have another video up about Islam being the religion of peace!
lonishar 11 months ago
@lonishar
Of course, no peace without justice, and no justice without fighting against injustice. Never said Islam was a religion of pacificism. And the U.S, Europe and other countries around the world, all believe in fighting for the sake of peace; except with Islam, we acxtually care about justice, not oil or money. Have a nice day :)
mujtahid2006 9 months ago
You speak well, we have always been victims of oppression and control. They have dumbed us down by creating fear tactics such as WMDs, al-kaida, terrorist .... and what have you. There is no solution, the word of God stands firm and heavens war is infinite. A war for your soul. There is no true religious sytem for they are all copies of the past. The plan is a one world society, but whose plan is it Gods or Lucifers??
baretta1983 11 months ago
@baretta1983 AL Qaida is not a "fear tactic" go read about SHiekh Usama bin Ladins life, how he left 20 billion dollar fortune to fight the Russians and now USA. Lookup michale scheuer head of CIA on youtube
frozenimran 10 months ago
@frozenimran I will look into it. But I am certain that Islam is dominated by an unknown and hidden brotherhood. You can see now that the north africans and arabs are starting to wake up. Victums of oppression under aristocratic dictatorship since lawrence of arabia.
baretta1983 10 months ago
@baretta1983 Since 1924 the Muslim worlds been under Dictators who were setup by europeans after they conquered that part of the world and setup 57 secular dictatorships.
Al Qaida is seen as a freedom movement to lift the dictators and USA support them out of the middle east
frozenimran 10 months ago
"Religion is merely the shadow of the universe laid on human intelligence" V. Hugo.
The only way to become at peace is to leave this backward, barbaric doctrine. We live on a tiny little planet. Much more is waiting outside. When you indoctrinated moron will understand that, you gonna understand how stupid it is to fight for such a little piece of land.
KaonNeutre 11 months ago
the lions of islam are waking up. the umar al khattab, abubakr saddiq, khalid ibn waleed and salahuddeen al ayuubi of our time will be here shortly inshallah ( some are already here )
ishgood100 11 months ago
An Islamist advocating violence? Deja vu.
cpeigney94 11 months ago 2
@cpeigney94
Yeah, I got the idea from a book I read called 'How to deal with problems in foreign policy - an Israeli and American methodology'.
mujtahid2006 9 months ago
@mujtahid2006 I think I know that book, is it inspired in a guy named Mohammed? Hag pessah sameah! NEXT YEAR IN JERUSALEM!
cpeigney94 9 months ago
If you desire peace, then I support you. However, if you advocate violence I cannot support you. Disclosure: I am not a Muslim
kashifv 1 year ago
what a fool. yes 6 million "zionists" in a seas of a half a billion muslims and Israel is dominating? stupid muslims speak with their hearts not their brains. if more muslim misery is needed so be it
wrldeye12 1 year ago
@wrldeye12 I think it's a matter of time before your misery starts.
hadiomran 1 year ago
This guy is a warrior. What he suggests are the pillars for solution.
shwankader 1 year ago
exposemyfoes, I know, but All muslims think of themselves as a Nation, The Nation of Islam, therefore they are a race.And they are a race in the view of the Koran.
corsarule 1 year ago
@corsarule their is a difference between one nation and one race americans r one nation but not one race e.g latin americans african americans
exposemyfoes 1 year ago
You are crazy mate, just have a look at history, Israel did bit the shit out of arabs in 67 and 73, I they will do it again, no problem, you know why because they have god on their side, god brought them back and planted them in his land as it's written in the bible.
bello1981 1 year ago
@bello1981 i guess god was on the side of the 40'000 muslims who destroyed the 250'000 romans and destroyed the persian empire israel will lose in the end
exposemyfoes 1 year ago
@bello1981 you try to convince these people that israel is the land god gave the jew's and they will say that the jews stole the land from the palenstine people but palenstine was never a state and until recently they never called themselves palenstine people the british ruled the land and the world leader gave it to the jews in 1948 they stole nothing from noone how could they the jews had no army
brucegregory 1 year ago
What is upsetting is that people assume every Jew hates Islam and every muslim hates the Jews. G-d made each an every one of us, why can we just share? and love each other as G-d loves each one of us?
Salam aleikum/Shalom aleichem to you
GavriellaMichal 1 year ago
@GavriellaMichal i agree with u peace be with you too
exposemyfoes 1 year ago
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GavriellaMichal 1 year ago
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Israel is not Muslim land, its Jewish land. Muslims got Mecca, Medina, and the rest of the continent.
0e0l7i 1 year ago
Peace will come only when Muslims will get into their heads that they are not the owners of the world, or the master race. It will come only when the web of Muslim lies will be dismantled.
corsarule 1 year ago
@corsarule muslims aint a race idiot
exposemyfoes 1 year ago
You advocate the impeachment of "these rulers". So why don't you not obey your highest tyrann, allah, the mafia boss, who threatens you to be tortured for eternity, unless you accept the muslim faith, the one, who wants his people to be killed and suicidal, to be hateful, to be intolerant. THAT is the bigger tyrant.
Impeach the clerics and the hamas leaders. THAT would be a really important goal. Only then peace may find a way into the conflict.
mardastheEitheist 1 year ago
Israel is not Muslim land, its Jewish land. Muslims got Mecca, Medina, and the rest of the continent.
Calmlikeabomb1891 1 year ago
@Calmlikeabomb1891 sorry but the palestinians were their before the jews so its their land too
exposemyfoes 1 year ago
@exposemyfoes Sure it's their land as well, but its not just "muslim land"
Calmlikeabomb1891 1 year ago
@Calmlikeabomb1891 no muslim believes that its just muslim land jews christians and muslims should live their in peace cos we're all abrahamic faiths but even jewish rabbis r against the state of israel because they believe their not allowed to possess land till the messiah comes
exposemyfoes 1 year ago
good luck trying to drive the jews out. Egypt and Syria tried twice, the Palestinians tried, Iran tries but fails time and time again, and Gog, from the land of Magog (aka the Islamic Ummah) will try, only to fail and perish, along with every 5 out of 6 muslims. Bottom line, as long as YHWH stands in the heavens, Israel will stand on Earth.
Shalom.
florinu123 1 year ago
@florinu123 this is comin from the people who murdered their own prophets you lot r prophet murderers
exposemyfoes 1 year ago