Bostonians Confront Pro-Israel CAMERA Conference at Boston University

[TStackinator]

@bentzion100 so, you go from video to video posting the exact same thing. Couldn't even afford some creativity? We'll see about Palestine in September.

[2haveaniceday]

these brainwashed useful idiots have so little people supporting them they need big banners to look important .The are in bed with the extreme right and islamists ....how pathetic ...let see the men dress as women in gaza ...lets see how fast hamas kicks their asses and shoot them .....

[bikingdoc]

Israel's "abuses" and "crimes"? Are we supposed to take this pro-terrorist nonsense seriously? Are the over 7000 Islamofascist attacks SINCE 9/11 what you're trying to cover up, or the hundreds of thousands brutally murdered in the Sudan by their Islamic rulers, or the vile human rights abuses pervasive in the Arab world, including persecution of women, minorities and gays? Mouthing the pathetic Islamic propaganda about Israel, the region's only peae-seeking democracy, won't change facts.

[TStackinator]

@bikingdoc bottom line, between 1987 and 2010, nearly 8,000 Palestinians and only about 1,500 Israelis have been killed in the conflict. Asymetrical warfare at its best. When it comes down to sheer numbers, Israel doesn't look so good. Since you cannot deny these FACTS, I'm done with this discussion. 

[bikingdoc]

TStackinator: Do you have any idea about truth or facts, or are you so full of ignorance and antisemitism that those details don't matter to you? The dishonesty and inaccuracy of your comments makes it clear that either you're woefully ill-informed (Egypt got $2.9 billion in U.S. foreign aid last yr.), or just so stupid that you blindly repeat the totally dishonest nonsense pro-terrorist apologizers like you love to throw around about peace-seeking democratic and courageous Israel.

[TStackinator]

@bikingdoc here are the hard numbers on US foreign aid from 2010: Israel recieved more than any other nation at over $3 billion in economic and military aid while Egypt, though it does come in second, was far behind at just over $1.5 billion in economic and military aid (source: ht tp :// w ww. vaughns- 1 -pagers . com / politics / us- foreign -aid . htm).

[orie555]

i hate east cost liberals, so much

[bikingdoc]

For "Petersz"--Sorry but your ignorance, or bias, or both is slightly showing. If you knew any facts about the Mideast you would know that the opposite of what you said is true--Israel is in fact the ONLY country in the region that does allow ALL other religions to exist and practice openly, the exact opposite of the racist brutal Islamic theocracies which surround it. Or perhaps you're so blinded by your bigotry as to drive your ignorant comments?

[bikingdoc]

Amazing that geniuses like "TStackinator" try pathetically to cast Israel as the bad guys, when in fact they're the only peace-seeking country in the region. Why aren't you instead protesting the real threat to regional and indeed worldwide security--murderous Islamofascist terrorism, which has carried out over 7000 cowardly attacks SiNCE 9/11! I'm sorry, but your selective obsession with Israel is totally divorced from reality and thus very telling about your real motives.

[bikingdoc]

"TStackinator" epitomizes the transparent nonsense the antiSems regularly try to bash Israel with e.g. "Israel apartheid"--is that a joke, or are you really that stupid? Israel is in the fact the ONLY country in the region which allows all other religions to practice openly, the exact opposite of most of the brutal Islamic theocracies in the region. How about "the Islamic Republic of Iran", which executes people for practicing other religions? You're either an idiot, a bigot, or both.

[TStackinator]

@bikingdoc No one is making excuses for abuses in the Arab world. Americans should be more critical of Israel's crimes because they are funded by billions in US aid every year and supported by consistant abuse of the US's seat on the UN security council. Simply, our nation is actively supporting the abuses of Israel, which cannot be said for those of the Arab world. As for your comment on US aid to to Egypt equalling that to Israel, you are wrong (to the tune of billions of dollars).

[TStackinator]

@bikingdoc and it has nothing to do with religion or anti-semitism. I have no connection to Islam. I merely object when one group, regardless of beliefs, abuses power. The Israelis and zionists are currenly doing exactly that by taking land to which they have no legitimate right and bringing suffering upon that land's former residents. If you need more proof that this is not about religion, look at the thousands of anti-Zionist Jews of the world. Will you now cease your trolling?

[2haveaniceday]

@TStackinator Jews have always been in Israel . They were the ones called palestinians . All you have to do is look at coins and newspapers before 1948 ,its all in hebrew ....By the way if you are so concerned about refugees and injustice , how come you don't protest for the 1 million jewish refugees kicked out of arab countries . There were alot more than arabs who left of their own free will when told by the attacking arab armies to make it easier for jews to be massacred.

[2haveaniceday]

@TStackinator I suggest you watch "ROAD TO JENIN " by pierre rehov . just google video and watch some of the lies coming from the arabs .By the way AL DURA was a complete fabrication ....a movie put out to the world as real and many people including Daniel Pearl were killed because of this lie They have the best propaganda since the nazis but .If you have an inch of decency , you will not align yourself with the extreme right and islamists to demonize Israel

[TStackinator]

@2haveaniceday sit down, man

[2haveaniceday]

@TStackinator nothing to say , I thought so ....

[TStackinator]

@2haveaniceday you want to know about propaganda? Look up Hasbara. Other than that, I have already addressed all of your hateful rhetoric, so further discussion is useless.

[2haveaniceday]

@TStackinator what discussion ?you addressed nothing because you know nothing . Your just an admirer of hamas who admires O. ben laden ....conclusion your an idiot .

[TStackinator]

@2haveaniceday your maturity is impeccable

[bikingdoc]

(Carb)uncle 99B: Oh BTW, I'm sure you frequently complain a lot about the U.S."s foreign aid to Egypt, which equals that to Israel! For which BTW we get none of the many benefits of our close relationship with Israel. Oh you don't? Gee, I wonder why not? It never ceases to amaze me that stupid bigots like you never seem to realize how transparent their bias is by their very narrowly focused agenda, totally ignoring the facts.

[bikingdoc]

For uncle 99B: Gee, it's amazing that folks like you with a strong anti-Israel agenda, paradoxically don't seem bothered by the real murderers--Islamofascist terrorists. There have been over 7000 such terrorists attacks SINCE 9/11, with many thousands of innocent civilians ALL OVER THE WORLD murdered in the name of jihad. Why aren't you speaking out against that? Or againsst the horrible daily human rights abuses by the region's Islamic theocracies? Your hypocrisy belies your obvious bias.

[petersz98]

"Some of the bills now going through the Knesset, which have a good chance of being ratified, would make support for an alternative political ideology, such as the idea that Israel should be a democracy for all its citizens, a crime". quote by Prof. Neve Gordon of Ben-Gurion University. He goes on to explain that Israel can choose to be a Jewish state or a democratic state but not both:- Israel has clearly chosen the former!

Israel is now officially a FASCIST STATE!

[imortal12233]

@petersz98

so Israel is a facist state because it would prefer to keep a jewish majority... which doesn't exist in anywhere else in the world.

Israel is facist compared to countries like Iran and Saudi arabia (among others), where non muslims are treated much worse, and often killed for their religious beliefs..

compared to in Israel apartheid is much fitting for Lebanon:

cbc.ca/world/story/2010/10/26/­f-lebanon.html

but that's ignored for some reason... I wonder why.

[petersz98]

@imortal12233

Zionism must go.

[imortal12233]

@petersz98

Thanks for the detailed response, it's nice to be able to have a good discussion without someone writing a 3 worded response with no evidence or even basic reasoning behind it.

[petersz98]

@imortal12233

Germany once defined itself as an "Aryan" state Jews, Gypsies and disabled people had no right to live there and were considered a "demographic" threat that had to be solved.

Israel defines itself as a "Jewish" state Arabs and Gentiles have no right to live there and are considered a "demographic" threat that will have to be solved somehow.

Zionism must go!

[imortal12233]

@petersz98 better, at least I get an actual response now.

first, jewish state does not imply it others have no right to live there, it just implies that it wishes the majority to be jews (the muslims and christians living inside Israel have equal rights to jews, may not be true for the west bank/gaza, but it is for the main Israel). That is contrary however to the arab states in the middle east, where if you are not muslim you have no right to be there and could be killed.

[petersz98]

@imortal12233

You obviously haven't heard what Michael Oren has said. He said the "Jewish" state must have at least a 70% Jewish majority otherwise it will have to choose between being Jewish or democratic. What if the non-Jewish population keep have too many babies, how can this problem be solved without causing an outrageous violation of human rights? Hasn't it already happened?

[imortal12233]

@petersz98

can you link to where he has said this? I will be able to respond once I see what was actually said. Until then, I can't comment on it for the most part.

I am not sure how it can be solved without a violation of a human rights act, but I am quite certain it has not happened yet.

[petersz98]

@imortal12233

Here is the exact quote by Oren:-

"Israel, the Jewish State, is predicated on a decisive and stable Jewish majority of at least 70 percent. Any lower than that and Israel will have to decide between being a Jewish state and a democratic state. If it chooses democracy, then Israel as a Jewish state will cease to exist."

What if the non-Jewish population keep have too many babies, how can this problem be solved without causing an outrageous violation of human rights?

Answer please!

[imortal12233]

@petersz98 you still have not given me the reference that records him saying it. I would like to see it mostly to verify that it has indeed been said (not that I mistrust your writing, but if it was said in hebrew there might have been some mistranslation that made it seem worse) and to see the context of the situation in which it was said.

I will try to answer once I see that.

[bikingdoc]

Why don't these anti-Semitic assholes protest all the murderous Islamic radical bombings and terrorism--that would be "justice"

[TStackinator]

@bikingdoc only those who are ignorant of both our message and the Israeli apartheid could believe that Students for Justice in Palestine stands for anti-Semetism. We are a diverse group including those of the Jewish faith who seek to raise awareness of and to fight Israeli crimes including an illegal occupation of Palestinian lands and an illegal and inhumane blockade of Gaza.  Not to mention the countless war crimes commited by Israel in their disproportionate wars in Gaza and elsewhere.

[TStackinator]

@bikingdoc and we do not condone terrorism. If anything, we stand against it by opposing the terrorist actions of the IDF and Israeli settlers against Palestinians.

[Uncle99B]

@bikingdoc . Because: 1. Zionist forces kill and oppress and occupy so many more people than do any "Islamic radicals". and 2. It is Israel who has her hand into the pocket of the US taxpayer to the tune of several billions of dollars each and every year, not any Muslims