HELLER 1/72 Saab J21 - A Building Review (A-1 to A-3 Converstion)

[sturmbringer01]

I thought I was the only one left that still hand painted all of my camo's, good to see there are others. Not knocking airbrushes or anything just my own preferance is all...

[mybluebelly]

I think we will learn to appreciate these old raised panel lines model kits more and more as they slowly seem to fade away into the darkness. One day they will all be recessed kits like the recent special hobby releases. But as we strive for perfection, we may just loose some of our abilities as modelers to do that job ourselves. I have both the old heller and the 2 new special hobby kits, but the old kit still holds a V.I.P. place on my shelf.

[BasicModelling]

@mybluebelly Well, some people maintain that the art of TRUE modelling is to turn the old kits into something as good as what the new kits look like, and I agree.. Things like pre-painted etch brass seatbelts is all very good and neat, but like you say, when it is done for you and not by you, some skills get lost in the process.. :P I compromise and use etched brass seatbelts, but paint them myself.. :) I have the Special Hobby R21, and meant to build it ages ago..

[mookins45]

Oh man, you achieve this excellence with a PAINT BRUSH? Well, I guess that's why you're the one posting on youtube, and I'm the one blasting away with my little Badger.

[BasicModelling]

@mookins45 Ha ha ha ha ha.. :) Thank you.. I would blast away with an airbrush too, if I only had somewhere to sit and do it.. Still, I enjoy brushing 'by hand' so for now that's what I'll continue doing.. :)

[BasicModelling]

@plasticairplanes I use a low aromatic brush cleaner, to remove the paint from the bristles.. and then I wash the brushes in soapy water afterwards, to remove the brushcleaner... :)

[TheSeasonman1]

Good build well done . I like the light shown in this video can you give details please ? Thanks

[MEU98]

U are using airbrush or good old fashioned brushes?Cause you are doing a great job.

[BasicModelling]

@MEU98 I'm using one of those sticks with hairs at the end of it.. i.e a brush! :) Don't own an airbrush, nor do I have anywhere to use one... Thank you for your positive comment, I'm striving to improve my brush technique as and when I can.. :)

[Arkanboys]

F 6 and F 7 ( Even J 21R) were the only attack squadrons in the Swedish Air Force

And Then called the A 21 ( A for attack) so A 21 is the correct name

sorry dude

[BasicModelling]

@Arkanboys Efter min tid i Flygvapnet sa vet jag att man anvanda bada benamningarna.. och detta ar en J21 A-3.. eller iaf ett forsok att gora en enkel konvertering! Infon som kom med dekalerna kallar planet for en J21 A-3.. Vidare har jag dubbelkollat namnet med IPMS Stockholm, en websida som brukar vara 99.9% korrekt.. Den kallas ocksa for J21 A-3 pa 'Military Aviation in Sweden's' websida, och de brukar inte heller ljuga.. men tack for papekandet, du har ju inte fel iallafall.. :)

[bruce3371]

Late to the party again, still, I got to see your amazing stir and shake action!

[BasicModelling]

@bruce3371 I'm quite excited at the mo.. There's FINALLY an injected kit out of the JET version of this aircraft, the J21 R.. My son is buying it for me for Fathers Day! When I get it everything else will go on hold, and THAT kit will be built! It's only the second aircraft ever to be converted to jet, from a piston engined original, the other aircraft was a Soviet Russian type, can't remember which one right now.. :)

[bruce3371]

@BasicModelling I was just about to mention the BAC Jet Provost, thinking it was converted from the piston engined Provost. But, after looking into it again, realised that it wasn't a straight conversion, it was a development!

Anyway, looking forward to seeing your J21R when it's done :)

[Spitfire44679]

Great build! The kit looks very good :) Only 7 steps!! Are you using Revell paint or something - :D :D... you shook and stirred like mad :) How on earth did they get those things to balance on the front landing gear in real life????? I mean usually the engine would be in the front for example in a Fairey Gannet to weigh it down so the front landing gear would touch the ground but with this they can't have put extra weight in the front or the thing wouldn't take off! How? Great video anyway :)

[BasicModelling]

@Spitfire44679 I only ever use HUMBROL, apart from Revell 9 and 46. :) Can't stir and shake the paint too much, trust me.. :) I don't know how they constructed the landing gear, but I think when they first flew the prototype, the landing gear legs all folded when landing, and had to be reinforced.. As a small bit of trivia, I can tell you this plane used the same engine as the Bf 109's.. just a bit o useless info!! They did lower the gear when they converted the J21 into the J21 R jet version

[mybluebelly]

I almost never PAY any particular attention to the price listed for an(y) upper level kit. I do agree that the prices are very stiff especially here in scandinavia, but i don`t think to much about it, because i would only get grey haired ;-) I just burned off 2500 pounds on models last week, but that was a substantial investment. I do ponder what happens the day i have them all ;--) I try to collect them all (1:72,WWII aero) There must be more than 500 variants not counting all the subtypes...

[BasicModelling]

@mybluebelly I've given up counting the money I've spent on models over the years.. but I have now reached a stage where I only buy kits I really will build, rather than stocking up for future projects.. :) :) I have enough to last me this lifetime and next.. but as I'm likely to be reincarnated as a dungbeetle, I hope somebody else gets to enjoy my kits one day.. :)

[mybluebelly]

By the way, i think the conversion set for the J-21 R is available at Rebell.com (sweden) but i didn`t quite make out what the box said.

[BasicModelling]

@mybluebelly Yes, it probably is... but runour has it a new injected kit will be released this year, of the J21 R, which should offer an easier option than the resin conversion.. hopefully!! I'm keeping a keen eye on all the websites, so I won't miss it.. :) Hm, having seen your comment below you already knew about the Special Hobby kit.. :)

[mybluebelly]

I just ordered this excact same kit from Sweden yesterday, just because i decided not to get it some 15 years ago. And at the same time, i noticed that Special Hobby is very soon releasing their (probably) state of the art Saab, J-21 in this scale, so i reserved a copy of that one to. How cool is that?! (i do mean the aeroplane is cool)

[BasicModelling]

@mybluebelly Didn't know it could be reserved, perhaps I better look into that.. then again it is bound to be expensive in Sweden, I was shocked at the prizes of models when I was last home.. :P

[wammyburger]

5:07 is really funny!

[BasicModelling]

@wammyburger It makes me cry.. :)

[BasicModelling]

@TomatoMug Probably to make sure the propeller didn't hit the ground.. When they converted this plane into the J21 R jet version, the landing gear was made lower..

[spanish111japan]

Nice! Recently i bought a heller model also, it was a canadair, but i got VERY DISGUSTED. The decals weren't very good, and for assembly they don't have anything that makes it more glued, i can't say that in english because i don't know how to say it. Excuse me for my english, and btw good model!

[BasicModelling]

@spanish111japan Yes, Heller decals can be very bad.. I used an after market decal set for this plane, which solved the problem.. :)

[Ezza190]

the swedes and their odd fighters, you did excellent work on it, and im going to rate it 5 stars ***** and thats for all your videos :)))

[BasicModelling]

@Ezza190 Yes, Sweden has made some interesting planes throughout the years.. never afraid to try the unconventional.. :)

[fmcVlad]

again reviewed this video. excellent model - 5 pounds of pure pleasure:) I've always liked this plane,  sure to buy myself.

[BasicModelling]

@fmcVlad I would if I were you.. and if you find the jet conversion set, please get one for me too.. I will have to pay you somehow, or trade for something else.. :)

[AlanMartinNala]

Excellent work! It specially caught my attention the shark-mouthed model X) As beautiful as unusual a model. It can rival in oddity with my J7W1 Shiden, also with a pushing propeller X)

[BasicModelling]

@AlanMartinNala Sweden didn't have many sharkmouthed planes, so when I saw a picture of one, I had to build it.. :)

[KENOEFF]

an interesting plane Rob.

A good weekend to you,

Ferd.

[BasicModelling]

@KENOEFF Thank you.. and you too.. :)

[Bloodrin79]

Great work, well done. I never new this interesting aircraft existed so thanks for the info! :)

[BasicModelling]

@Bloodrin79 Well, some count it as a WWII fighter, but as it was Swedish and never saw action during the war, it is largely forgotten.. outside Sweden.. :)

[JNstudios1]

you seem to be in a happy mood or you are having a party in the next room

[BasicModelling]

@JNstudios1 I was in a happy mood! But now I'm back to my normal miserable self... :) :)

[Virlando2]

Interesting construction of aircraft and model too :))

[BasicModelling]

@Virlando2 Thank you.. I try and show a bit more of how I do things, now.. :)

[GerbilEssences]

Really neat little kit, where did you buy it? My local shop is really lacking, particularly in 1/72 russian planes.

[BasicModelling]

@GerbilEssences @GerbilEssences I got about 4 kits in one go from SBX Models in Ipswich a few years ago.. I will convert another one to a rocket carrying version of the J21 A-3.. and then I'll keep one to hopefully convert into the Jet version when I can get my hands on a conversion set.

[BasicModelling]

That leaves a spare one, which I need to keep in case I botch up the conversion.. If not I'll make it into the A-2 version, visually the same as the A-1, just a different armament.. But if you want one I'll keep an eye out for when I go to the Hendon Show (hopefully) in May.. :)

[GerbilEssences]

@BasicModelling I apprecite the offer, but I'm hoping to do a flying model at some point. The Se5 is painted, but not in a good way, it really needs a layer of polyfiller to seal all the gaps in the foam otherwise it looks awful. I may indeed start yet another project ;O

[BasicModelling]

@GerbilEssences Oh, the joy of modelling.. I have now started the ICM 1/48 Spitfire Mk.VII.. just for something totally different! It wasn't in my plans at all.. :)

[GerbilEssences]

@BasicModelling You mean there is no jet kit :O

[BasicModelling]

@GerbilEssences Nope, only a couple of different conversion sets.. one resin and one vac-form, I believe.. both of which are very hard to come by.. :P

[GerbilEssences]

Hope the rocket ship goes well. I beleive they used J21s at Angelholm back in the day?

[BasicModelling]

@GerbilEssences They used J21 R's at Angelholm, yes.. :) Which is why I want to build one.. :)

[MisplacedTexan4]

Very nice model. I forgot to place a counter weight in my A-6 now it sits on its tail.

5 stars on your video I have never seen this airplane before I feel like a visit to a museum after seeing this old air plane.

[MrRandomWritings]

thats a hellerva weird looking plane - and the designer had so much faith in it he fitted an ejector seat! Well well!

[GerbilEssences]

When the propellor is behind you, you always need an ejector seat! Otherwise it is pilot sushi ;)

[MrRandomWritings]

@GerbilEssences Guess a rear prop is handy for drawing the air away if the pilot shits himself though

[Bl4zz3r]

You should show us how you display all these wonderful creations.

[cwazmann1]

Awesome work bro, very nicely done.Your work always amazes me, you make it look so realistic that I'm gonna need some serious flying lessons...lol!!! When is the contest over? Just curious. Keep on building, I look forward to seeing more from you. Oh & the stirring & shaking was comedic!!! I was like dang bro, shake that bottle...lol!!! Peace!!!

[fehquig]

15 was my car number for many years... Most unusual :)

[Inky261]

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[Fuxup222]

you should do a video of all or some of the cool models you have

[BasicModelling]

@Fuxup222 I have two videos posted, called '51 Models' and '51 Models more'.. Soon time to make another video, I guess.. but quite a few of my latest models are on display in the modelshop in town, so I'll have to wait until they are home again.. :)

[himesworld]

Your minion is always dexterous and wonderful !!

★★★★★5

[BasicModelling]

@himesworld Thank you.. :)

[CapLAGOS]

nice aircraft and nice build! 5*****

[BasicModelling]

@CapLAGOS I would love to make one in 1/48.. witha nicely detailed cockpit.. I have so many ideas for models to manufacture, it's a shame I'm not a millionaire.. or I would start up a kit making factory.. :)

[CapLAGOS]

@BasicModelling

that would be cool you with your own manufacture...i´m shur i would buy you some aircrafts.... :-)))) ´m still working on my Eurofighter..... and soon will be coming a new video :-)))) long time ago on my chanal ...

[BasicModelling]

@CapLAGOS I'd love to design and make my own, there is a great demand out there for certain kits, I'm sure.. :) I keep checking up on youir channel regularly, to make sure I don't miss anything.. :)

[ECWoriginal95]

great job how do you get the silvering away ???

[BasicModelling]

@ECWoriginal95 I use 'Klear' floor polish to settle the decals in.. and then a matt varnish when the decals have dried.. :)

[EmCSpiteri1]

Nice on ☺

[BasicModelling]

@EmCSpiteri1 I'm glad you thought so.. :)

[cestrianvlogger]

hehe rob... while the missus is away, rob comes out to play.. paint is a pain, but you could of done some finger painting.. lol

[BasicModelling]

@cestrianvlogger I leave enough fingerprints on my models as it is.. thank you.. :)

[cestrianvlogger]

rob- the fastest paint stirrer and shaker in the west XD  love the dancing.... hope you tidied up after, your wife wont be too impressed with a messy table...

[BasicModelling]

@cestrianvlogger She's in London.. why do you think I get all this modelling done??? :) :) Had a scary moment the other day though, the lid of the tin came off.. oh, horror!! But luckily it only went all over my hand... :)

[twinblock123]

Hi, What brushes do you use for small detailing as mine are crap

[PappyStu]

Odd looking craft... or perhaps just unique?

[BasicModelling]

Both... :)

[atomicdog32]

Another great build! I like the Cha Cha too! LoL...Great vid! Keep Building!

[hydruntin]

LOL Cha Cha Cha! Charming plane!:))

[BasicRevell]

Very nice aircraft looks sweet and the skin is more than perfect!:) and nice cockpit detail:)

awesome!

[aguyfromsweden]

nice den har jag också byggt jag köpte den på ängelholmsflyg museum

[BasicModelling]

@aguyfromsweden De hade inga nar jag var dar.. men jag kopte ett par FFVS J22 istallet.. :) Och en Saab B17.. :) Bygger J22:an just nu, sa hall utkik efter videon nar jag postar den.. Du kommer att kanna igen ett visst museum.. :)

[aguyfromsweden]

@BasicModelling det ser jag detserjagframemot! :)

[tankman13p66]

Another nice model from Basic Modeling! 5 stars

[granskare]

nice plane and music & because the swedes did make that plane into a jet, it just seems right that you also can do that with a J21 prop plane...uh, could you convert it back into the A-1 version...that's te classic one... lol lol :) shake rattle and roll ...going to brekkie nice vid:)

[spanish111japan]

So cool :O

[svinehunden]

they call you shaken stevens ;)

great video... unfortunately this one will never be nominated as 'most boring video'

i really think your videos have become MUCH better with time... keep it coming... :D

[BasicModelling]

@svinehunden Well, I have got over my inhibitions of making a total idiot of myself.. so there you go!! :) :) Currently making another Swedish fighter, the J22.. and then maybe I finally will get round to making the Danish version of the SAAB B17 too, at some point.. while I'm in the mood for Swedish designed aircraft! :) Don't be surprised if I end up doing something completely different, though.. :)

[BasicModelling]

@lapispinoza Saab built a lot of aircraft on license, but the J21 was their own first fighter design, yes.. or so I believe! I hope to build a twin Mustang at some point, when I can find a nice kit at a reasonable price.. Failing that I can always convert. two ordinary Mustangs... :)

[BradThunder]

V.Nicely done. Again!

That's was an interesting kit - I've always thought that SAAB looked a little, well, odd! Something about the front not seeming to belong to the back and the whole fuselage not belonging to the wings - like it was made up of bits of other planes!!! But that's just me!

Oh and Mr Fancy-Pants with his proper metal paint stirrer - not like the rest of us peasants who have to make do with bits of sprue!!! Hehehe.. Must get one....;)

[BasicModelling]

@BradThunder @BradThunder Yes, odd it is.. but now it belongs to a long list of classic Swedish designs.. :) It had a 'Messerschmitt Bf 109' type engine, otherwise than that I think everything was original Swedish design, even the ejection seat..

[BasicModelling]

As for the metal paint stirrer, it's not fancy at att.. it's the discarded metal axle from the Airfix 'Shaun the Sheep & Tractor' set, a model which probably never will be finished! My father in law was supposed to have it for Christmas 2008.. I'll probably end up just making the Shaun, Bitzer and Timmy figures in time for NEXT Christmas.. Oh, the joy of modelling..

[projektor1954]

5 ****

[projektor1954]

More than well done!!

[BasicModelling]

@projektor1954 Thank you.. :) Got the decals at the clubmeeting a week ago, and as I had long wanted to do a 'bomb' version of this plane, I got going on it very quickly.. :) Some things just can't wait.. :)

[BasicModelling]

@projektor1954 Thank you very much.. :)

[Tuberglue]

Thank you.. :)

[leokimvideo]

I agree with the comment below,

looks nice as a jet..!

[BasicModelling]

@leokimvideo It does look nice as a jet.. but for some unfathomable reason Heller never made a jet version, only the piston engined plane, as shown.. You can but a vac form and / or resin conversion set, but it is very hard to come by these days.. I know somebody who has a set, but he refuses to sell! :) I hope to find a set one day, because they used the jet version at my old Fighter Wing, and so I'd love to build it..

[BasicModelling]

I remember seeing twin boomed planes flying over our house when I was little, but they were De Havilland Vampires. I always thought they were the jet version of these, though.. but sadly not. They stopped using them 5 years before I was born.. :)

[joluqa]

Interesting kit and good job.5*

[BasicModelling]

@joluqa Thank you.. I doubt any of these ever came to Joluqa, somehow.. :)

[bozidar89]

What kind of filler do you use? Ive got problems with Revell Plasto, i think it hates me or i am just retarded. I cant get even surface. How long you wait for it to get dry?

[BasicModelling]

@bozidar89 I use the 'Squadron Fast Drying White Putty' and 'Vallejo Plastic Putty'.. It says on the tube that the Squadron putty dries in 30 minutes, but I always leave on over night, or severall hours at least.. As for the Vallejo putty, you just add it, wipe off the excess.. leave if for a while and it's ready to be painted over! The Squadron putty normally needs sanding smooth when dry.. You need to use a fine grit 'wet & dry' sandpaper for a smooth surface, that works the best! :)

[bozidar89]

@BasicModelling Thanks, i'll try that!

[ArtistNR]

This plane looks very cool. I will probably build it myself sometime :) 5*

[BasicModelling]

@ArtistNR I strongly recommend that you do.. Should you find a kit and the decals turn out to be bad, let me know.. I can send you some good ones.. :)

[ArtistNR]

@BasicModelling Ok I will keep it in mind ;)

[BasicModelling]

@ArtistNR Well, that's why I'm here.. I may not be the best moeller ever seen, but I promote the hobby in any other way I can.. :) :) You know where to find me.. :)

[tyrbolo]

Very nice. A fairly exotic aircraft kit around these parts but well worth looking for.

[BasicModelling]

@tyrbolo It's an exotic aircraft anywhere... a classic Swedish design.. :)

[tenka45623]

once built a heller kit my self! :)

sewedish planes cool! :D

good build and model

[BasicModelling]

@tenka45623 Thank you.. :) Both Heller and Airfix used to produce a lot of model kits of Saab Aircraft, and were very popular in Sweden when I first started building models.. You can still get most of the old Heller kits if you know where to look.. :)

[BasicModelling]

@tenka45623 Thank you.. :) Both Heller and Airfix used to produce a lot of model kits of Saab Aircraft, and were very popular in Sweden when I first started building models.. You can still get most of the old Heller kits if you know where to look.. :)