the Vietcong are battle hardened soldiers ..but the majority of them got tricked by the communist North to fight their war...this is sad but true fact. After the war the North Vietnam moved into Saigon and take total control of that place and leaving the Vietcong nothing. The north took over everything ..you can say that today the whole country is run by the north.. most of the veteran like the vietcong felt betrade and left out for what they have done for their country.
@yengxiong04 thanks for the comment friend. My grandpa was a vietcong he fought bravely and honorably. His love for his country and people is enormous, but he does not support his government, because they are full of corrupts. Most higher officials are living in a fancy life style mean while the poor are continue to suffer. A country that counted by status and wealth not the love that was once used to be. Vietnam before the war was considered the pearl of south east Asia.
@yengxiong04 Today vietnam is just a shadow behind other countries in economy and growth. Why ? this is partly because of the war ..and even after 36 years the corrupt system in that government unable to bring the country back on its track. And if you ask me to choose between colonial or communist of vietnam my friend. I would say to hell with the vietnam government. Dont take it offended i have nothing against the communist I just dont like greedy bastards.
@zero00tolerance I agree. My dad, uncles, and cousins recruited by the US CIA all fought the Vietcong and Pathet Lao in northern Laos. My point is I think the people of Laos and Vietnam today would still choose their independence and internal corruption of the government over white colonialism (high taxation and exploitation of resources). Either way, the vast majority of the people were still being taken advantage of, dont you think?
@yengxiong04 Then it is an honored to meet you. You are absolutely right no matter what the people would still choose freedom over colonialism. I personally think that war was a waste of human lives. 65000 Americans, 3.5 million Vietnamese perished, families destroyed and today both the USA and Vietnam are closer friends than ever before.
alot of people forget it was the Aussies who inflicted Japans first defeat on land in 400 years and it was the Aussie who the Viet Cong feared the most the point the Viet cong never attacked the Aussie head on after Long Tan. the Viet Cong considered the Americans the Brits ab bunch of pussies that could and can be beaten
@ipsilon160 Spoken like a true bragging Aussie pub bar propping bullshit artist.It's not a fucking competition , if you weren't there keep your mouth shut. Britain weren't even in the Vietnam War so how could the Viet Cong consider them "a bunch of pussies" you ignorant little shit. I shouldn't let your sort get to me but you have .
@goatsawar02 ultimately the allies never won the war. so it didn't matter if the Aussies won in Long Tan or the Tet Offensive failed the NVA and the VC still won the conflict. the other part the truth is the allied forces had no business in Vietnam they entered the war and still lost amazing isn't it
@goatsawar02 Officially Britain was not involved in Vietnam, however there were still British personnel at the British embassy in Saigon and others served with either the ANZACs or American Special Forces as a plausible cover.
bán đảo Đông Dương. đánh bật VN ra khỏi Miên, Lào và làm Đồng Bằng Sông Cửu Long, vựa lúa của cả nước, làm cho VN trở thành nước xuất cảng gạo nhứt nhì thế giới, thiếu nước ngọt bị nhiễm mặn, thành đồng khô có cháy. vùng lên đạp đổ đãng cộng sản bán nước cho Tàu ,tham nhũng hút máu mủ việt nam hôm nay thi may ra con cháu chúng ta còn sống sót.
The American commenting in this thread is an idiot! There are a lot of propagated, mind-damaged morons here in the States. Aussie troops have always been held in high regard by American troops who knew them. I agree, too, it was the regimental bearing and discipline of the ANZACS that was no small contribution to their fighting reputation. Something about heritage, perhaps, that Western societies in successive decades have attempted to erase.
@flute4hire The Australian Army ALSO have an SAS Regt.... We have had since the early 60's. They've fought in every AO Australia has had since Borneo... and then some, I suspect
Let us praise the true heroes in this battle, the soldiers of the United States of America. When artillery, chopper and APC support was required, it was the American GIs who saved the day. Those fighting also respected the opposition form the NVA. These guys fought bravely, and sometimes even beat Americans.
Divine. If Australians had operated on their own at Long Tan, they would have lost. The Americans came in and saved the day. The NVA always admired the American GI. Ho Chi Minh himself was earlier friendly towards the United States, and he understood the culture. Noe in Vietnam, the people drink an ice-cold Coke. The kids love McDonalds. Now that's love!
In reality, the Australians walked into a trap set by the NVA. The Australians went to the US for assistance as usual. The Americans provided air strikes and artillery support. Once again, the legendary US commanders and GIs saved the say. Some Australians were awarded genuine US medals of valor out admiration that the Australian tried to help the cause. The real credit goes to the fighting men of the United States.
You should really actually watch this documentary before commenting. The only part the US had to play in this battle was a minor artillery contribution amongst a bulk of Australian and New Zealander artillery.
There were no American infantry present, no US Air Force.
There was never any need to call upon the US for support.
The Australians decimated over 500 NVA and Viet Cong before escaping.
Divine. This part of the war was fought by the US, Australia and New Zealand. The US and New Zealanders are not really interested, as they fought for the freedom of the Vietnamese people, not to claim victory when retreating from an ambush. The NVA were not happy about the reporting of Long Tan. They saw the battle in much the same way as the United States did, with the Australians getting ambushed and the US saving them.
I won't even bother, you're so obviously poorly educated like most of America. You're so blindly convinced Americans did anything more than provide some minor artillery support amongst a bulk of Australian and New Zealander artillery units.
So it doesn't really matter, believe what you want but it doesn't change the fact that this battle goes down in history as an Australian and New Zealander victory. It will never be considered a US victory.
OK. I was having a serious debate. So you were being sarcastic when you said Americans take all the credit. The US people are always generous and wish the best for everyone. It is the English who always talk themselves up.
akloff. That';s disgusting. Australia begged for help from England when it was being bombed. How many troops came? Not one. The Australians sent many many troops over to help England, when they begged them. The English abandoned India, Australia, New Zealand and South Africa. The USA saved these countries.
I agree, your lack of knowledge is disgusting. England didn't abandon any of it's friends in the commonwealth, it was busy winning the war in Europe and against Japan. Australia was never in any risk of being invaded or attacked directly so the diggers could help win the war by fighting alongside commonwealth troops in the Pacific and Europe.
akloff. You are wrong. The English did cut and run against the Japanese. If you think Australia was in no risk of being invaded, then you and I have a serious disagreement. Quite frankly, I have never heard of anything so ridiculous. The English abandoned Australia, and every Australian knows this.
australia was at direct risk of being invaded dumbarse
thats what the new guinea camapign was
a last effort to draw the japanese back
if the aussies lost there japan would have taken australia and america wouldnt have had a base and would have lost the pacific if that happened the japanese would have gone to europe and helped the germans take out england
exactly. ive got an old history book on WWII and the Kakoda, alot of the pictures and writing is about americans, and who the fuck was it who fought there to there last dying breath? Us australians our ancestors. i cant stand it when americans get credited for the work of allied countries.
that goes the same with vietnam. oh yeah in WWII, the japs sent 2000 soldiers thinking that would take out us aussies when about 300 or 200 of our soldiers completely battered them all as the stepped on our land, and not one film is about that? BULLSHIT!
im american and not australlian but i have to admit the australlians were pretty bad ass and beat the hell out of the viet cong in long tan and for swanningaround he thinks that the standard infantry gun was a m60 light machine gun.
id give the credit to the australlians for that battle
1janyeeast. You are sadly mislead if you thinj the M16 was a gun. It was a rifle. I stand by by statement that the standard issue gun for sections was the gympie.
The AK47 is also classed as a rifle and not a gun. As for the standard issue, it was the SLR, not the AK47 or the M16. The M16 was issued, but as you said it did jam, and the rounds were too high velocity, and did not stop the enemy effectivlely. This is based on my own experience.
@absolutelyfree1963 I have. The US were the main fighting force in Vietnam. What I said here is the truth. The Australians walked into a trap. They were bailed out by Americans. Naturally US soliders are humble and just get on with the job. They knew that Australia needed a publicity moment. After all, the Australian war pages are not replete with victories. In fact, they are full of incompetene and defeat, like in Greece and Singapore.
This is just some dumb fuck, where english is his second language. Some jealous fucker cause his country has done shit. Any one would tell this dumb arse that it was the australian artillery that saved the aussies.
So piss off back call of duty. Yer slap head. Yer just pissed aussies kicked the shit out of every asian they came up against
@wufongtan In your dreams. The Australians have not been successful against Asians. You don't know history. In fact, the Aussies have never won any battle as far as I can see. They have lost plenty. Leave victory to the USMC, candidate.
@swanningaround I must commend you on your courage for telling it how it was and how it will always be. Australia does not have an army it has a club.
@australbanian That is correct. They were not the only ones. It happened to the US also. Claymore mines werre a major problem. The opposition located them, turned them around, and attacked the platoon harbor perimeters. The mines were dentonated, causing major casualties to the platoon.
@swanningaround The Australian contingent was totally fucked fro mthe beggining. They placed their mines in supermarket rows for the Vietgong to do after hours shopping..
Swan your a tool. I work with a veteran of Nam. He said the american soldiers were awful. The most unprofessional, incompitent troops. They didnt want to be near them. They were undiciplined, noisy, poorly trained. The SAS stayed away. They could SMELL and hear the US troops before you could see them. Walking around with guns slung over their shoulders, smoking, radios blaring. Any vet will tell you. The yanks = all the gear and no idea.
slick. Your mate was telling you fibs. Charlie could smell any Western troops, including Australians. It was the soap that gave them away. Being a veteren of Nam was nothing special. You qualified if you had a desk job in Saigon. Not everyone was in the infantry, you know.
Not every American soldier looked like Clint Eastwood either. Look. There was nothing special about Vietnam. Afghanistan and Iraq are far harder.
would u fuck off? Did u fight? how about u go do what they did? Comparing wars is just as pathetic as your glorious american saviour bullshit. And well trained troops ate local foods and local products so they didnt smell different. And well trained certainly didnt include your precious american hero's... who wernt there. Now go away. Everyone here is tired of your disrespectful garbage. And dont be a lowlife and start comparing wars. The world is dynamic. And you are ignorant.
slick. You can compare wars. What you say out Americans having guns slung over their shoulders is completely false. The normal gun in use was the M60. Not many of these were "slung across the shoulders". You talk rubbish.
the 'normal gun' was certainly not an m60. As that is a machine gun. Which was not particularly effective. And machine guns certianly wernt issued to every soldier. Perhaps one or 2 per patrol.
Yeah you can try to compare wars, but everything is different. No one here was talking about any other time. And your trying to throw around crap about americans saving our guys. There wasnt a yank involved. So why dont you grow some honour and leave the facts as facts. Everyone knows better anyway.
slick. What are you talking about? Patrol? You have been watching too much TV. The normal gun was an M60, actually. What do you think the normal gun was? You are completely ill informed and obviously have no military training.
yeah, sept ive used an M60. Pig we call it. The m14 rifle and later the m16 rifle was standard gear. Why would you issue a belt fed machine gun to every bloke in your unit? They are heavy, bulky, innacurate and if you shoot consistantly, u need to change out the barrels because they heated up too much.
No. It is not inaccurate. You ask any soldier who served in Vietnam. the main gun carried by sections (patrols as you call them) was the gympie or M60. Instead of saying I am inaccurate, please tell me what you what gun think they carried, other than the M60. I am not inaccurate. You are. Sorry.
A very great pleasure my friend. I can't find it on youtube but its off the album "True blue two". Johny absolutey nails the love hate love Aussie Kiwi relationship in this song.....A joint National Anthem?.
description is not consistent with the amount of VC dead, body count was 245, VC commander claimed only 50 dead. Either way Australian troops are always amongst the most courageous fighters, it's because of our unsinkable spirit and kinship to others, including the New Zealanders.
Since Bali is no longer safe, and Vietnam so cheap, please consider taking a holiday to this glorious country. The people are fantastic with so much to see and do.
A must see for any person visiting Vietnam, who is from one of the countries that fought there is to visit the Long Tan cross. The only foreign war memorial on Vietnam soil.
You will be walking on hallowed ground. Knowing several Long Tan veterans personally, my emotions are at peak each time I visit there.
The exact reason would be down to a matter of opinion. Vietnam calls it "the American War", even though France and Australia got there before the US. Also in the war were South Korean, New Zealand and Phillipine forces.
I know it for a fact through speaking with them, former Vietnamese military (north and south)have a high respect for the Australian and N.Z. forces, not so for the US.
Australians did not commit atrocities like that done by the US forces.
U.S and the ROK were among the most hated soldiers by VC and NVA.
ROK were rough soldiers they were the second group who sent the most soldiers in support they were cold blood they would destroy anything in their way.
U.S were more known to commit real bad atrocities.
i am from NZ and i must say Vietcong DO not FEAR no one the if the Vietcong knew how little of a Force was holding there we would have been over run with in sec's
after the battle of long tan,a high ranking viet cong officer concluded that they would never again go head to head with australians in combat.enough said realy...
@flavourinjector not nocking you aussies 9i wouldnt wanna fight one of you lol) the reality of it is trained foward oberserver + radio x no CDE concerns with multiple batteries and guns at your disposal = death to any unit without artillery to fight back
that old FO had fucking nuts of pure titanium.... motherfucker is someone i strive to be like
Aussie is an insignificant enemy to the Vietnamese people. Throughout history Vietnamese military have defeated the mighty Chinese, Mongols, French, and American. What enemies have Aussie defeated? LOL
Btw, Long Tan is such an insignificant battle that little to none is known to the Vietnamese people, but I guess this is a larger than life battle for the Aussie.
However, VN war battle like Xuan Loc is well known by every Vietnamese LOL
You gotta be kidding...the Vietnamese NEVER defeated America. NOT EVEN CLOSE! Just took themselves out. If there was any type of defeat it was by AMERICA (own people/gov't)not the hands of the Vietnamese.
The Aussies were tough, hard fighting blokes and never gave up(why they won), obviously not so insignificant; what is however, is your ignorant rant/post.
your fuckin nips after the battle of longtan retreated out of phuc toy province...
australians never had another engagement like that again in the vietnam war, because your military commanders issued orders saying to aviod australians at all costs!
You sir are behind in the times. I think the fact that Australians dont have a huge participation in wars is a positive thing jackass. I mean you talk about war as being great, but if someone had a gun pointing at you you would be balling your eyes out till you vomit. We actually are more like peacekeepers we help the country develop do you have any idea how long weve been in east timor?
you stupid prick the aussies and nz were the first to beat german panzers and japanese crack troops in kokoda with no support from america AT ALL the average australian is worth tens of vietnamese
1500 Vietnamese vs.100 Diggers and we still kicked you into next week.I'm not surprised that the Vietnamese people are basically unaware of the battle of Long Tan.Aussie! Aussie! Aussie!.
"1500 Vietnamese vs.100 Diggers and we still kicked you into next week.I'm not surprised that the Vietnamese people are basically unaware of the battle of Long Tan."
Until about 3 years ago, Vietnamese official version quoted in their history books, museums and by Long Tan tour guides was 650 Aussies killed in Long Tan by 200 north Vietnamese. The tour guides now tell the truth and incorrect written versions removed from the public eye.
I pay respects at Long Tan each time I go to Vietnam.
108 troops fended off somewhere over 1500 Viet Cong and you ask what enemies have the Aussies defeated?. Aussie troops are some of the best in the world.
You are an insignificant little pissant, Your so called VC brothers pissed themselves when ever any Aussie patrol engaged them, study your history you pissant, we slaughtered your troops time and again,you were a disgrace in battlefield as well as a so called "fighting force" you thought as usual that you could ambush a sqaud or platoon of men , but you got more than you bargained for and hundreds of your slimey commie scum got delivered to the devils door courtesy of the Australian Army.
The Australian 6RAR was known for owing its area. One other story I remember was the toe eaters. South Vietnamese who under siege used the enemy for their prime food source. They had no choice except canibalism. Later these same men were known to complain there was no fighting going on. Mainly because the NVA knew they were there and went to fight some other place.
This is a very old (1986) Battle of Long Tan documentary and not the award winning version which screened on the History Channe in Australia on 16 August 2006.
Yes..but its the only copy on here, I have emailed the producers and directors of the "new" docco trying to find a copy I could purchase with no success :(
If you or anyone else can obtain a copy, please post it to share this amazing true story.
Ahh the Battle of Long Tan - one of the greatest battles the Australian have ever been in. But then again - Aussies always fight great battles! Kokoda, Korea, Vietnam, Gallipoli are all good examples of Australian courage, strength and defiance!
Read the book "A Bastard of a Place" about not only Kokoda but Milne Bay< Sunananda and other places being fought around the same time. Great insight into the AIF during WW2. kokoda was just the start, it got nasty after that, particularly when they found the Japs killed wounded left behind. good read.
the Vietcong are battle hardened soldiers ..but the majority of them got tricked by the communist North to fight their war...this is sad but true fact. After the war the North Vietnam moved into Saigon and take total control of that place and leaving the Vietcong nothing. The north took over everything ..you can say that today the whole country is run by the north.. most of the veteran like the vietcong felt betrade and left out for what they have done for their country.
zero00tolerance 6 months ago
@zero00tolerance North Vietnam is the Vietcong. They fought for unification and independence from white colonial rule; nothing else!!!
yengxiong04 1 month ago
@yengxiong04 thanks for the comment friend. My grandpa was a vietcong he fought bravely and honorably. His love for his country and people is enormous, but he does not support his government, because they are full of corrupts. Most higher officials are living in a fancy life style mean while the poor are continue to suffer. A country that counted by status and wealth not the love that was once used to be. Vietnam before the war was considered the pearl of south east Asia.
zero00tolerance 1 month ago
@yengxiong04 Today vietnam is just a shadow behind other countries in economy and growth. Why ? this is partly because of the war ..and even after 36 years the corrupt system in that government unable to bring the country back on its track. And if you ask me to choose between colonial or communist of vietnam my friend. I would say to hell with the vietnam government. Dont take it offended i have nothing against the communist I just dont like greedy bastards.
zero00tolerance 1 month ago
@zero00tolerance I agree. My dad, uncles, and cousins recruited by the US CIA all fought the Vietcong and Pathet Lao in northern Laos. My point is I think the people of Laos and Vietnam today would still choose their independence and internal corruption of the government over white colonialism (high taxation and exploitation of resources). Either way, the vast majority of the people were still being taken advantage of, dont you think?
yengxiong04 1 month ago
@yengxiong04 Then it is an honored to meet you. You are absolutely right no matter what the people would still choose freedom over colonialism. I personally think that war was a waste of human lives. 65000 Americans, 3.5 million Vietnamese perished, families destroyed and today both the USA and Vietnam are closer friends than ever before.
zero00tolerance 1 month ago
this is abusive to children
JesuzzzHD 7 months ago
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iMzRyy 7 months ago
alot of people forget it was the Aussies who inflicted Japans first defeat on land in 400 years and it was the Aussie who the Viet Cong feared the most the point the Viet cong never attacked the Aussie head on after Long Tan. the Viet Cong considered the Americans the Brits ab bunch of pussies that could and can be beaten
ipsilon160 8 months ago
@ipsilon160 Spoken like a true bragging Aussie pub bar propping bullshit artist.It's not a fucking competition , if you weren't there keep your mouth shut. Britain weren't even in the Vietnam War so how could the Viet Cong consider them "a bunch of pussies" you ignorant little shit. I shouldn't let your sort get to me but you have .
goatsawar02 7 months ago
@goatsawar02 ultimately the allies never won the war. so it didn't matter if the Aussies won in Long Tan or the Tet Offensive failed the NVA and the VC still won the conflict. the other part the truth is the allied forces had no business in Vietnam they entered the war and still lost amazing isn't it
ipsilon160 7 months ago
@goatsawar02 your a fucking sook.
14ParkWayDrive14 6 months ago
@14ParkWayDrive14 man idk what you were replying to here but your youtube username just made my modern history study that much better.
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starangelellieconan 4 months ago
@starangelellieconan haha i was replying to the bloke above me and your welcome, glad i could help. (:
14ParkWayDrive14 4 months ago
@goatsawar02 Officially Britain was not involved in Vietnam, however there were still British personnel at the British embassy in Saigon and others served with either the ANZACs or American Special Forces as a plausible cover.
stormwell 5 months ago
@ipsilon160 A very interesting point is that ther were afrais of our SASR. They called them the Phanotms of the jungle
daaskapital1 7 months ago
Why do Australian soldiers seems to be worrying hat instead of helmets? Anyone care to explain.
publicmario17 9 months ago
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┌П┐ (►_◄)┌П┐ To all the mudda fukkas that serve under the Australian flag.
australbanian 9 months ago
To the 18 Australian dead and to the 47 (VC claim) - 245 (Aus estimate) North Vietnamese dead. Hail and R.I.P. to all who died, on both sides.
BathorysGraveland 10 months ago
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absolutelyfree1963 11 months ago
I hate when someone is talking and theres always some other voice speaking over it translating what there saying
just put on some subs lol
jacksta246 1 year ago
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absolutelyfree1963 11 months ago
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Fuck your shitty translations
Dubs and subs are the best :D
jacksta246 10 months ago
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absolutelyfree1963 10 months ago
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Lol thats why i said dubs
jacksta246 10 months ago
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absolutelyfree1963 10 months ago
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Lol
Well America should of been like russia and china send supplies only not troops
jacksta246 10 months ago
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absolutelyfree1963 10 months ago
how good were Aussie SAS?
xanderluv 1 year ago
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absolutelyfree1963 11 months ago
@absolutelyfree1963 that doesnt tell me shit mate
xanderluv 11 months ago
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absolutelyfree1963 11 months ago
@absolutelyfree1963 if you are going to be a smart ass...just keep your comments to yourself mate...
xanderluv 11 months ago
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absolutelyfree1963 11 months ago
@absolutelyfree1963 Good enough to do what? Row boats...Fuck off mate!
xanderluv 11 months ago
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absolutelyfree1963 11 months ago
bán đảo Đông Dương. đánh bật VN ra khỏi Miên, Lào và làm Đồng Bằng Sông Cửu Long, vựa lúa của cả nước, làm cho VN trở thành nước xuất cảng gạo nhứt nhì thế giới, thiếu nước ngọt bị nhiễm mặn, thành đồng khô có cháy. vùng lên đạp đổ đãng cộng sản bán nước cho Tàu ,tham nhũng hút máu mủ việt nam hôm nay thi may ra con cháu chúng ta còn sống sót.
petervalientes 1 year ago
@petervalientes hey that VC talk!
MrProzacmilkshake 11 months ago
what war .did nz fight a war?
russ9356 1 year ago
Hill 488 is still a more bad ass story, but props to the Aussies
Sturmmann 1 year ago
The American commenting in this thread is an idiot! There are a lot of propagated, mind-damaged morons here in the States. Aussie troops have always been held in high regard by American troops who knew them. I agree, too, it was the regimental bearing and discipline of the ANZACS that was no small contribution to their fighting reputation. Something about heritage, perhaps, that Western societies in successive decades have attempted to erase.
shortist2003 1 year ago 2
flute4hire - Australia has its own SAS Regiment.
griffithvoice 1 year ago
SAS? wtf? I didnt know the Brits were in Vietnamn? I know Australians can serve in the SAS but the SAS is a British Army unit?
flute4hire 1 year ago
@flute4hire The Australian Army ALSO have an SAS Regt.... We have had since the early 60's. They've fought in every AO Australia has had since Borneo... and then some, I suspect
petethebastard 1 year ago
@flute4hire what, you think the kiwis and aussies don't have their own SAS? what planet are you on
GwaiTsi 1 year ago
@GwaiTsi Not planet war geek thats for sure.
flute4hire 1 year ago
@flute4hire No that it is not the case.... We do have our own SAS regiment...and Commando reg too....
Boltneck77 1 year ago
were they fighting over rubber, rice, and diamonds/gold?
Rico8458 2 years ago
@Rico8458 No! They were fighting because they were soldiers... Sent to that "fucked-up, never-come-down land"
They fought because their commanders said to go to a grid reference, and the "noggies" started shooting at them....
It's not about rubber/rice/diamonds/gold... It's ALL about Bravery and Mateship!
petethebastard 1 year ago
I love it: 'were in a fair bit of shit here'...
DamBelCha 2 years ago
@DamBelCha The classic Aussie ubderstatement!
petethebastard 1 year ago
Let us praise the true heroes in this battle, the soldiers of the United States of America. When artillery, chopper and APC support was required, it was the American GIs who saved the day. Those fighting also respected the opposition form the NVA. These guys fought bravely, and sometimes even beat Americans.
swanningaround 2 years ago
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DivineHardOn 2 years ago
You're an idiot, it was the Australians on the frontlines, and Australian/New Zealand artillery batteries doing most of the work.
The Americans had very little to do with this battle.
As with most of the Vietnam war, Australians would prefer to operate on their own rather than suffer the incompetence of American GI's.
DivineHardOn 2 years ago 2
Divine. If Australians had operated on their own at Long Tan, they would have lost. The Americans came in and saved the day. The NVA always admired the American GI. Ho Chi Minh himself was earlier friendly towards the United States, and he understood the culture. Noe in Vietnam, the people drink an ice-cold Coke. The kids love McDonalds. Now that's love!
swanningaround 2 years ago
Watch the documentary you retarded yank.
The only thing the Americans did was participate in artillery support with the Australian and New Zealander artillery regiments.
American GI's were too retard wacked out of their minds on drugs. The only noteable American forces in Vietnam were the Green Berets and Marines.
The Australian SAS refused to operate with any other Americans.
I'm so sick of Americans taking credit for everything.
DivineHardOn 2 years ago 2
In reality, the Australians walked into a trap set by the NVA. The Australians went to the US for assistance as usual. The Americans provided air strikes and artillery support. Once again, the legendary US commanders and GIs saved the say. Some Australians were awarded genuine US medals of valor out admiration that the Australian tried to help the cause. The real credit goes to the fighting men of the United States.
swanningaround 2 years ago
You should really actually watch this documentary before commenting. The only part the US had to play in this battle was a minor artillery contribution amongst a bulk of Australian and New Zealander artillery.
There were no American infantry present, no US Air Force.
There was never any need to call upon the US for support.
The Australians decimated over 500 NVA and Viet Cong before escaping.
Please read your history.
DivineHardOn 2 years ago
Divine. This part of the war was fought by the US, Australia and New Zealand. The US and New Zealanders are not really interested, as they fought for the freedom of the Vietnamese people, not to claim victory when retreating from an ambush. The NVA were not happy about the reporting of Long Tan. They saw the battle in much the same way as the United States did, with the Australians getting ambushed and the US saving them.
swanningaround 2 years ago
Lol, whatever helps you sleep at night man.
I won't even bother, you're so obviously poorly educated like most of America. You're so blindly convinced Americans did anything more than provide some minor artillery support amongst a bulk of Australian and New Zealander artillery units.
So it doesn't really matter, believe what you want but it doesn't change the fact that this battle goes down in history as an Australian and New Zealander victory. It will never be considered a US victory.
DivineHardOn 2 years ago
and not all of america is uneducated only the unwilling
1kanyeeast 2 years ago
thats what i meant my bad everybody knows that but yeah just a mix up of words.
1kanyeeast 2 years ago
Its always gotta be the Ameicans coming in to save the day. Taking all the credit while the other countries stand and watch, bleeding to death.
bigfatben10 2 years ago
bigfat. Not true. The Americans are the ones who are out there doing most of the work and the dieing. You are thinking of the English.
swanningaround 2 years ago
i was being sarcastic retard
bigfatben10 2 years ago
OK. I was having a serious debate. So you were being sarcastic when you said Americans take all the credit. The US people are always generous and wish the best for everyone. It is the English who always talk themselves up.
swanningaround 2 years ago
Everyone is the same dipshit, english werent even involved so why would we say anything
bigfatben10 2 years ago
You are right. England was not involved. It never is when Australia needs it. The same happened in WW2. England was a no show.
swanningaround 2 years ago
Are you ignorant or something? England was very much involved in the Pacific campign, not to mention being busy in Europe.
akloff 2 years ago
akloff. That';s disgusting. Australia begged for help from England when it was being bombed. How many troops came? Not one. The Australians sent many many troops over to help England, when they begged them. The English abandoned India, Australia, New Zealand and South Africa. The USA saved these countries.
swanningaround 2 years ago
I agree, your lack of knowledge is disgusting. England didn't abandon any of it's friends in the commonwealth, it was busy winning the war in Europe and against Japan. Australia was never in any risk of being invaded or attacked directly so the diggers could help win the war by fighting alongside commonwealth troops in the Pacific and Europe.
akloff 2 years ago
akloff. You are wrong. The English did cut and run against the Japanese. If you think Australia was in no risk of being invaded, then you and I have a serious disagreement. Quite frankly, I have never heard of anything so ridiculous. The English abandoned Australia, and every Australian knows this.
swanningaround 2 years ago
@akloff
australia was at direct risk of being invaded dumbarse
thats what the new guinea camapign was
a last effort to draw the japanese back
if the aussies lost there japan would have taken australia and america wouldnt have had a base and would have lost the pacific if that happened the japanese would have gone to europe and helped the germans take out england
AlienFirefox 1 year ago
@akloff
go look up the bombing of darwin
australia got the shit blown out of it because you poms wouldnt fuckin help us
AlienFirefox 1 year ago
exactly. ive got an old history book on WWII and the Kakoda, alot of the pictures and writing is about americans, and who the fuck was it who fought there to there last dying breath? Us australians our ancestors. i cant stand it when americans get credited for the work of allied countries.
redhardnuts 2 years ago
that goes the same with vietnam. oh yeah in WWII, the japs sent 2000 soldiers thinking that would take out us aussies when about 300 or 200 of our soldiers completely battered them all as the stepped on our land, and not one film is about that? BULLSHIT!
bigfatben10 2 years ago
im american and not australlian but i have to admit the australlians were pretty bad ass and beat the hell out of the viet cong in long tan and for swanningaround he thinks that the standard infantry gun was a m60 light machine gun.
id give the credit to the australlians for that battle
1kanyeeast 2 years ago
1janyeeast. You are sadly mislead if you thinj the M16 was a gun. It was a rifle. I stand by by statement that the standard issue gun for sections was the gympie.
The AK47 is also classed as a rifle and not a gun. As for the standard issue, it was the SLR, not the AK47 or the M16. The M16 was issued, but as you said it did jam, and the rounds were too high velocity, and did not stop the enemy effectivlely. This is based on my own experience.
swanningaround 2 years ago
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absolutelyfree1963 10 months ago
@absolutelyfree1963 I have. The US were the main fighting force in Vietnam. What I said here is the truth. The Australians walked into a trap. They were bailed out by Americans. Naturally US soliders are humble and just get on with the job. They knew that Australia needed a publicity moment. After all, the Australian war pages are not replete with victories. In fact, they are full of incompetene and defeat, like in Greece and Singapore.
swanningaround 10 months ago
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absolutelyfree1963 10 months ago
@swanningaround
This is just some dumb fuck, where english is his second language. Some jealous fucker cause his country has done shit. Any one would tell this dumb arse that it was the australian artillery that saved the aussies.
So piss off back call of duty. Yer slap head. Yer just pissed aussies kicked the shit out of every asian they came up against
wufongtan 10 months ago
@wufongtan In your dreams. The Australians have not been successful against Asians. You don't know history. In fact, the Aussies have never won any battle as far as I can see. They have lost plenty. Leave victory to the USMC, candidate.
swanningaround 10 months ago
@swanningaround I must commend you on your courage for telling it how it was and how it will always be. Australia does not have an army it has a club.
australbanian 9 months ago
@swanningaround In fact the Australians placed thousands of mines, which were dug up and used against them. Pathetic!
australbanian 9 months ago
@australbanian That is correct. They were not the only ones. It happened to the US also. Claymore mines werre a major problem. The opposition located them, turned them around, and attacked the platoon harbor perimeters. The mines were dentonated, causing major casualties to the platoon.
swanningaround 9 months ago
@swanningaround The Australian contingent was totally fucked fro mthe beggining. They placed their mines in supermarket rows for the Vietgong to do after hours shopping..
australbanian 9 months ago
@swanningaround idiot troll.
absolutelyfree1963 9 months ago
@swanningaround Bailed out? Did you even watch the video?
MsSloppyseconds 8 months ago
Swan your a tool. I work with a veteran of Nam. He said the american soldiers were awful. The most unprofessional, incompitent troops. They didnt want to be near them. They were undiciplined, noisy, poorly trained. The SAS stayed away. They could SMELL and hear the US troops before you could see them. Walking around with guns slung over their shoulders, smoking, radios blaring. Any vet will tell you. The yanks = all the gear and no idea.
slickstrings 2 years ago
slick. Your mate was telling you fibs. Charlie could smell any Western troops, including Australians. It was the soap that gave them away. Being a veteren of Nam was nothing special. You qualified if you had a desk job in Saigon. Not everyone was in the infantry, you know.
Not every American soldier looked like Clint Eastwood either. Look. There was nothing special about Vietnam. Afghanistan and Iraq are far harder.
swanningaround 2 years ago
would u fuck off? Did u fight? how about u go do what they did? Comparing wars is just as pathetic as your glorious american saviour bullshit. And well trained troops ate local foods and local products so they didnt smell different. And well trained certainly didnt include your precious american hero's... who wernt there. Now go away. Everyone here is tired of your disrespectful garbage. And dont be a lowlife and start comparing wars. The world is dynamic. And you are ignorant.
slickstrings 2 years ago
slick. You can compare wars. What you say out Americans having guns slung over their shoulders is completely false. The normal gun in use was the M60. Not many of these were "slung across the shoulders". You talk rubbish.
swanningaround 2 years ago
the 'normal gun' was certainly not an m60. As that is a machine gun. Which was not particularly effective. And machine guns certianly wernt issued to every soldier. Perhaps one or 2 per patrol.
Yeah you can try to compare wars, but everything is different. No one here was talking about any other time. And your trying to throw around crap about americans saving our guys. There wasnt a yank involved. So why dont you grow some honour and leave the facts as facts. Everyone knows better anyway.
slickstrings 2 years ago
slick. What are you talking about? Patrol? You have been watching too much TV. The normal gun was an M60, actually. What do you think the normal gun was? You are completely ill informed and obviously have no military training.
swanningaround 2 years ago
yeah, sept ive used an M60. Pig we call it. The m14 rifle and later the m16 rifle was standard gear. Why would you issue a belt fed machine gun to every bloke in your unit? They are heavy, bulky, innacurate and if you shoot consistantly, u need to change out the barrels because they heated up too much.
slickstrings 2 years ago
im done with you man. Everything you say is innacurate and im not wasting my time anymore. Someone else can deal with you.
slickstrings 2 years ago
No. It is not inaccurate. You ask any soldier who served in Vietnam. the main gun carried by sections (patrols as you call them) was the gympie or M60. Instead of saying I am inaccurate, please tell me what you what gun think they carried, other than the M60. I am not inaccurate. You are. Sorry.
swanningaround 2 years ago
what the hell standard issue was the m16
vets say that if they had the ak-47 it would have been easier due to the fact that the m16 jammed so damn much and the ak is easy to disassemble.
and i know vietnam vets and slick strings was absolutely right
1kanyeeast 2 years ago
A very great pleasure my friend. I can't find it on youtube but its off the album "True blue two". Johny absolutey nails the love hate love Aussie Kiwi relationship in this song.....A joint National Anthem?.
crocfme 2 years ago
Don't be fooled if you see 'em fight, when tempers fray on a summer's night,
You take on one, you take on two, the Kiwi and the emu.
Mates forever, yes its true,
Two Anzac legends thru and thru,
The Kiwi and the Emu.........................
....-John Williamson.
crocfme 2 years ago 2
I cant remember the exact saying but it was by Erwin Rommell.
Something along the lines of
" If I were to take hell, I would use the Aussies to capture it and i would use the Kiwis to defend it"....
Would be nice if anyone can clarify that Quote.
Mo0nBugGy1 2 years ago
description is not consistent with the amount of VC dead, body count was 245, VC commander claimed only 50 dead. Either way Australian troops are always amongst the most courageous fighters, it's because of our unsinkable spirit and kinship to others, including the New Zealanders.
karlkarlkarl1234 2 years ago 2
"To see them advancing on us was not in our training manual. And I suppose on that stage I thought......we're in a fair bit of shit here".
Quite the understatement when a platoon is facing a regiment :). Brave Australians!!!
agsibarani 2 years ago 2
Crikey! Lookout kids, danger danger! It's a whole divison of VC...shhhhh....wow, she's beautiful...
bigpoopie69 3 years ago
i dont know why i got 2 reds for it was true the Vets who where the said it themselfs on the History Channle Battle of long tan
Mrbob200 3 years ago
Since Bali is no longer safe, and Vietnam so cheap, please consider taking a holiday to this glorious country. The people are fantastic with so much to see and do.
A must see for any person visiting Vietnam, who is from one of the countries that fought there is to visit the Long Tan cross. The only foreign war memorial on Vietnam soil.
You will be walking on hallowed ground. Knowing several Long Tan veterans personally, my emotions are at peak each time I visit there.
alicemulla 3 years ago 2
dead set the only memorial how come?
grunt182820 3 years ago
"dead set the only memorial how come? "
The exact reason would be down to a matter of opinion. Vietnam calls it "the American War", even though France and Australia got there before the US. Also in the war were South Korean, New Zealand and Phillipine forces.
I know it for a fact through speaking with them, former Vietnamese military (north and south)have a high respect for the Australian and N.Z. forces, not so for the US.
Australians did not commit atrocities like that done by the US forces.
alicemulla 3 years ago
Exactly!
U.S and the ROK were among the most hated soldiers by VC and NVA.
ROK were rough soldiers they were the second group who sent the most soldiers in support they were cold blood they would destroy anything in their way.
U.S were more known to commit real bad atrocities.
Like massacares of innocents.
shouavaj12 2 years ago
i am from NZ and i must say Vietcong DO not FEAR no one the if the Vietcong knew how little of a Force was holding there we would have been over run with in sec's
Mrbob200 3 years ago
they do not fear, because they do not give up
china, france, america
the little bastards just never give up hahaha
LordBob1234 3 years ago
gotta respect that in an enemy
grunt182820 3 years ago
after the battle of long tan,a high ranking viet cong officer concluded that they would never again go head to head with australians in combat.enough said realy...
flavourinjector 3 years ago 11
great sources on that info
bobbybushae339 3 years ago
its stated in the new documentry
LordBob1234 3 years ago
Funny cuz VC were also told the same thing but to avoid ROK soldiers.
shouavaj12 2 years ago
@flavourinjector not nocking you aussies 9i wouldnt wanna fight one of you lol) the reality of it is trained foward oberserver + radio x no CDE concerns with multiple batteries and guns at your disposal = death to any unit without artillery to fight back
that old FO had fucking nuts of pure titanium.... motherfucker is someone i strive to be like
Konelklinken 1 year ago
@flavourinjector , Ban noi khong dung. Chac ban la nguoi Uc. Chung toi khong thay quan diem cua ban o bat ky dau..
vietnamma 1 year ago
Aussie is an insignificant enemy to the Vietnamese people. Throughout history Vietnamese military have defeated the mighty Chinese, Mongols, French, and American. What enemies have Aussie defeated? LOL
Btw, Long Tan is such an insignificant battle that little to none is known to the Vietnamese people, but I guess this is a larger than life battle for the Aussie.
However, VN war battle like Xuan Loc is well known by every Vietnamese LOL
vochanvalley 3 years ago
You gotta be kidding...the Vietnamese NEVER defeated America. NOT EVEN CLOSE! Just took themselves out. If there was any type of defeat it was by AMERICA (own people/gov't)not the hands of the Vietnamese.
The Aussies were tough, hard fighting blokes and never gave up(why they won), obviously not so insignificant; what is however, is your ignorant rant/post.
negtype13 3 years ago 5
your fuckin nips after the battle of longtan retreated out of phuc toy province...
australians never had another engagement like that again in the vietnam war, because your military commanders issued orders saying to aviod australians at all costs!
learn yah history cunt
LordBob1234 3 years ago
You sir are behind in the times. I think the fact that Australians dont have a huge participation in wars is a positive thing jackass. I mean you talk about war as being great, but if someone had a gun pointing at you you would be balling your eyes out till you vomit. We actually are more like peacekeepers we help the country develop do you have any idea how long weve been in east timor?
Brh1y 3 years ago 5
actually australians beat german panzers with anti air guns and japenese cracks troops in kokoda
birthday42 3 years ago 2
actully germans pioneered the use of AA guns against tanks
bobbybushae339 3 years ago
you stupid prick the aussies and nz were the first to beat german panzers and japanese crack troops in kokoda with no support from america AT ALL the average australian is worth tens of vietnamese
birthday42 3 years ago 2
i doubt any of the men who fought at long tan would say anything that ignorant disrespectful or racist
bobbybushae339 3 years ago
@vochanvalley
1500 Vietnamese vs.100 Diggers and we still kicked you into next week.I'm not surprised that the Vietnamese people are basically unaware of the battle of Long Tan.Aussie! Aussie! Aussie!.
jfletcher12SS 3 years ago 6
"1500 Vietnamese vs.100 Diggers and we still kicked you into next week.I'm not surprised that the Vietnamese people are basically unaware of the battle of Long Tan."
Until about 3 years ago, Vietnamese official version quoted in their history books, museums and by Long Tan tour guides was 650 Aussies killed in Long Tan by 200 north Vietnamese. The tour guides now tell the truth and incorrect written versions removed from the public eye.
I pay respects at Long Tan each time I go to Vietnam.
alicemulla 3 years ago 2
war is nothing to cheer about
bobbybushae339 3 years ago
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absolutelyfree1963 11 months ago
108 troops fended off somewhere over 1500 Viet Cong and you ask what enemies have the Aussies defeated?. Aussie troops are some of the best in the world.
Hendrixstrato 3 years ago 2
Desert Fox Rommell, and US General Patton both made distinguished comments regarding the Australian Soldier.
Australian fighting forces are held in high regard all over the world.
alicemulla 3 years ago 2
You are an insignificant little pissant, Your so called VC brothers pissed themselves when ever any Aussie patrol engaged them, study your history you pissant, we slaughtered your troops time and again,you were a disgrace in battlefield as well as a so called "fighting force" you thought as usual that you could ambush a sqaud or platoon of men , but you got more than you bargained for and hundreds of your slimey commie scum got delivered to the devils door courtesy of the Australian Army.
AussieSAS0007 3 years ago 2
how unaustralian of you
bobbybushae339 3 years ago
The Australian 6RAR was known for owing its area. One other story I remember was the toe eaters. South Vietnamese who under siege used the enemy for their prime food source. They had no choice except canibalism. Later these same men were known to complain there was no fighting going on. Mainly because the NVA knew they were there and went to fight some other place.
studley2436 2 years ago
When it comes to it! you don't want to piss an Aussie off. We are happy go lucky but we will kick your arse if needed.
mboz1974 3 years ago 16
@mboz1974 Grow up...
gillyssquashball 11 months ago
This is a very old (1986) Battle of Long Tan documentary and not the award winning version which screened on the History Channe in Australia on 16 August 2006.
OZ2CDO 3 years ago
Yes..but its the only copy on here, I have emailed the producers and directors of the "new" docco trying to find a copy I could purchase with no success :(
If you or anyone else can obtain a copy, please post it to share this amazing true story.
ANZAC....lest we forget
willytheekid 3 years ago
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absolutelyfree1963 11 months ago
Ahh the Battle of Long Tan - one of the greatest battles the Australian have ever been in. But then again - Aussies always fight great battles! Kokoda, Korea, Vietnam, Gallipoli are all good examples of Australian courage, strength and defiance!
Brightstar27 3 years ago
Read the book "A Bastard of a Place" about not only Kokoda but Milne Bay< Sunananda and other places being fought around the same time. Great insight into the AIF during WW2. kokoda was just the start, it got nasty after that, particularly when they found the Japs killed wounded left behind. good read.
Riyun72 3 years ago 2
Thanks mate, but it's aussies
1243568790 4 years ago 2
Thank God for the Choppers and the Kiwi Artillery... it was a very close run thing,,,,
bundja 4 years ago 3
Fantastic video mate.
Long live the ANZAC spirit and may the Wallabies royally stuff the All Blacks for evermore (wishful thinking).
dazzaclap 4 years ago 5