Theatre of cruelty

[PLCopsey]

There are some things that just don't need to be filmed.

[thingdom]

Some of the deepest human emotions are about the ugly facts of life and this film seems to be about them. I like the cucumber

[aoficina]

You "teachers of Artaud", who intend to determine "how" thing should be done: you know nothing!  You teach nothing!

[ruzickaw]

no han captado nada de Artaud.

[razvan1980]

lame

[trix2810]

utter muck



[TheSirPrise]

So eh, what's the message?

[11pinrelay]

Nuestra sociedad entera hoy es el teatro de crueldad.

[iloveroadsigns]

worst piece of shit i have ever seen

[QueenMayBelle]

You have to have done your research and be mature to watch this x

[xahga2]

made for hysteric art students from hysteric art students!LOL

[theunavoidablethings]

what the actual fuck

[Gambit7Beyond]

You Call This Shit Theatre Of Cruelty!?!

[NooriW]

This is so fucking disturbing i felt like someone just punched me in the face.. and im supposed to perform something like that for drama oh my god .. :p

[l0iiaaa]

that was tapped ! LOVE IT

[GaGambunista]

i think i understand what the movie means... damn the TRUTH!!

[rogerbadu12]

¿Teatro de la crueldad? difinitivamente no comprendieron nada.¡ bobazos!

[rogerbadu12]

¿Teatro de la crueldad? difinitivamente no comprendieron nada.¡ bobasos!

[TheeSteveValentino]

I think someone has definately missed the point.

Theatre of Cruelty? I think not.

And just because I think its terrible do not delude yourself with thoughts of "well Artaud was not recieved positively by the masses" It was just appauling and completely fails to encapsulate the true ideals of the Theatre of Cruelty and Atraud's philosophy.

[cheyennebritbrat]

oh dear

[PidgeonSprout]

Drama, drama, drama :)

[thecami2]

O.o

[paprwings21]

INCORRECT

[1bayne1]

boring. not representative of Artaud, not shocking, not visceral. non-involving.

[DarkenedRoomOfPrayer]

Focus do this work alone or only with people you trust contradicts the have no fear message

[floracal91]

chocante ..

[RobertoDelHorneo]

you couldn't have named this more wrongly...

[misstears002]

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[hondy55]

This film is applying apporpiate conventions of the theatre of cruelty, however it is missing all the key concepts depicted by Artaud.

Close, but not quite there.

[DaniSuperFreek]

sicksicksicksicksicksicksick

I watched this in college in my class SICK

[DanLaurikietis]

Hmmm. While I can see what this film was trying to do I can also understand why some Artaud purists are so dismissive of it. It's true that gratuitous shocks and eroticism do not Theatre of Cruelty make. I do, however think that it succeeds in making us realise just how uncomfortable we are with our sexuality (no mean feat in such a sexually charged society).

We must also remember that Artaud's theories were never actually realised in his lifetime (unless you count La Cenci).

[MrTwig555]

I couldn't agree more with Kalcite. This is not theatre of cruelty - though it may show us things people don't want to see, it's not attempting to reveal any deep truth or meaning, it's simply showing cruelty for cruelty's sake. More to the point, Artaud's theatre of cruelty did not entail physical cruelty, it focussed on emotion.

The only emotion I felt whilst watching this was horror at how they've butchered & sullied the name of what is (IMHO) an excellent style of theatre.

[merlimkerunnus]

GOD IS DEAD...

[DunjeonES]

a disgrace to the name which he has tried to steal but the name is not tainted in the slightest

[Farfo]

Claro coño, es que esto no tiene nada que ver con o que Artaud llama "teatro de la crueldad". De hecho, la misma idea de representar algo no pertenece a dicho teatro, y muchísimo menos un corto o una película. Eso tiene que saberlo quien ha hecho esto... A no ser que sea inconcebiblemente imbécil

[C8C8DR1L0]

Semejante basura.

[Ashimagari]

P.A.T.E.T.I.C

[glitterqueen6]

I wouldn't call this Artaud

[Kalcite]

Actually I may have misinterpreted everything here and Theatre Of Cruelty is the title of this short film, unrelated to Artaud...

[zahrehmor]

Self-obsessed horseshit.  A brief phase, one hopes, in man's development.

[saalpaaraadiisee]

no mames, esta bien chingon!

[squeaky770]

what on earth was that

[rashzitzandpimple]

Awesome!

[amelia2809]

thats just too far if you ask me

[xoxpenguinxox]

Correct me if I'm wrong, was that like signifying the death of virginity..I'm kinda new to the whole theatre of cruelty thing...

[semenretentum]

Kubrick? fuck off

[mariagiuseppa82]

che si faceva lo sapevamo ma secondo me s facev proprj o cuott.

[jonwaves]

weak.

[tramz921]

O....MY....GOD!!

Artaud was a crazy bastard!!

[rbagatelli]

where are the ritual? where are the plague...very cool, but not eny close to Artaud...U can´t call this Theatre of cruelty

[JellyKimSugarBoom14]

wow cool and creepy

[hungryeyes121]

kinda reminds me of some of Stanley Kubricks work... for example 'Clockwork Orange', sick and twisted but clever. HOWEVER this is nothing like Artauds work, that man was a genius!

[GMILLARDO]

Gracias al postmodernismo ahora cualquier tarugo es artista. Estos mediocres no entendieron a Artaud o no lo leyeron definitivamente.

[AlaricxMalgraith]

There where it smells of shit

it smells of being.

[lapetitebaobab]

this is pathetic ..

[vermelestor]

pésimo, al ver esto, creo que Artaud reviviría sólo para volver a matarse.

[DarkDioniso]

Totalmente de acuerdo con tigo, es una verguenza.

[Kalcite]

...Jesus christ you disgrace the name of Artaud! His ideas were to bring out the deepest human emotions and engulf the audience with them, not to just be sadistic and fucked up... Not all of Artaud's works have to involve blood or other such things. Christ, the whole point is to make your audience feel what the characters are feeling, it's called immersion theatre. Learn your practicioner's ideals and views before naming your crap.

[Odysseus1982]

@Kalcite I kind of agree with Kalcite in some ways, although I think it also has some heavy elements of surrealism and shock/Alfred Jarry, so not totally un-artaudian, though still I think it may have been rushed a little and slightly misguided...but I like the audaciousness, i must say... a little daring and explorative... i'm so/so

[breezy52393]

@Kalcite i know this might be too much to ask, but you seem very educated in this type of theatre can u please like give me a good link to learn more?

[syd2much]

@Kalcite Very true, but Artaud also wanted to get as much of a reaction from his audience no matter what the reaction. You feeling uncomfortable with it as well as displeased, would be a reaction that Artaud would appreciate.

But yes you are completely right, people need to take into consideration that Artaud IS NOT all about sadistic and "cruel" situation.

[claude670]

@Kalcite I agree completely. I am a new scholar of Artaud, and the man's theory of our inner animal quality is truly brilliant. This is not theatre of cruelty, this is just plainly put salf-absorbing in the fantasies born out of a deranged mental order. This is NOT what Artaud wishes to convey. There is more pure theatre of Cruelty in "The Rites of Spring" by Pina Bausche. You can view it on Youtube.

[tlsorrel]

@Kalcite Actually, no. The point is (if I may paraphrase Artaud himself) to strip away the mask of theater and reveal a truth to the audience which the audience does not want to see. After all, it is called "Theater of Cruelty" for a reason.

[Kalcite]

@tlsorrel Yes, but this is far from stripping away the mask of theatre, this is deliberately staging things that people dont want to see, there's a difference.

[sydneysesky]

@tlsorrel is this not something that you didnt want to see?

[YeviGambale]

@Kalcite Tú desgracias el nombre de la vida. Según tú, el creador del cortometraje es un pendejo; pero tu opinión es sólo una esclava de un ideal heterónomo. Las ideas de quien sea no son para reproducirse, sino para asesinarse, olvidarse, renovarse y transformarse. Conocer o aprender no es perpetuar conceptos en la memoria, sino interpretar los conceptos y hacerlos únicos. En este mundo de lo imaginario, todo juicio moral es inconsecuente. Ahora tradúcelo.

[jehouse]

@Kalcite Exactly.

[sydneysesky]

@Kalcite i was emersed deeply in the emotion that this film provoked. maybe in 2004 this did engulf as you so say. at the end of the day cant we just appreciate this film as art.

this is why we shouldnt say our work is like others, as we disrupt the balance of authorship. and kalcite ..... what do you REALLY know of artaud, because im sure if he saw that you thought this project was a disgrace to his name its possible he would love that! and on what merit do you understand what is crap ?

[Utgangen]

@Kalcite I think you'll find that "Immersion theatre" and Theatre of Cruelty are completely different things. Theatre of Cruelty is designed to confront and shock the audience. The idea behind it is that the world we live in is cruel and twisted and not a happy little fairytale that other theatre styles and plays would have us believe. It is a way of showing realistic circumstances in metaphoric and surreal ways.

[BloodOfTheNile]

@Kalcite i think that was very unfair... This is peice of art has some very strong images... I think it is a perfect representation of Artaud's work... Fucker.

[tazamaroo]

@Kalcite What do you mean what Artaud's work is supposed to make the audience feel what the charaters are feeling? I thought the idea was to use an interpretation of Artuads work, not replicate it. It's hard to tell what he was trying to portray seeing as not a lot of his work was produced so how are you supposed to know? I thought the point was to make the audience feel uncomfortable and to show an unpleasant reality. Unless you worked with Artaud yourself I don't think anyone can say.

[PezTing]

Freaky.

[mefisto155]

Pretty disgusting. Had some interesting moments though. As people stated earlier - has NOTHING to do with Artaud.

[kamilaplanta]

mais qu'est ce que c'est ca..?...c'est de la merde...?....en tout cas on dirait que si, c'est de la merde...

[TheOuph]

Une insulte pour Artaud

[TheMiqy]

the worst interpretation of artaud

[suhailayinn]

a mi me dan ganas de hacer mierdas así de patéticas de vez en cuando pero...no sé...realmente no me hace falta esforzarme para hacer mierda o recibir insultos como recibirá el que hizo semejante basura.

[sprackles]

this is stupid and gruesome. a terrible film. not entertaining or enlightening.

[AbbiMay93]

that's the idea of a "theatre of creulty" based on the theatre practioner Antonin Artaud

[sprackles]

im familiar with artaud and the theatre of cruelty. artaud talked about shocking the senses. he didnt talk about blatant sadism.

[AbbiMay93]

sadism ? no mate... im just studying about it in A-level dram and find it interesting!

[sprackles]

i wasnt calling you a sadist. im just saying that this film is blatantly sadisitic and not what i believe to be artuad's original vision..

[AlaricxMalgraith]

Have you seen any of his plays? "Destroy yourselves, you who are desperate, and you who are tortured in body and soul, abandon all hope. There is no more solace for you in this world. The world lives off your rotting flesh." - A. A.

[sprackles]

that'sfine..at least there is a coherent point to that passage...THIS FILM IS STILL GARBAGE!!!

[AlaricxMalgraith]

Oh, it's not the best film, but is relatively consistent with Artaud's philosophy.

[sprackles]

i highly disagree it's fine that you think that/

[Chopaniko]

entubate tu video puto baboso no entiendes nada de Nanaqui si es que sabes a que me refiero,

[lolo3080]

mais c'est richard gotainer

[mujervendaval]

desastre..

[JAelsesx93]

oh my fucking god...

i mean, i love this sort of theatre and like the results of the imagination sometimes but seriously.

:s

[Indaleciobraga]

bueno. es realmente así que creés que es el teatro de la crueldad?

"cuando el mestre apunta el sabio mira a la luna y el estupido mira al dedo".

[archiebaldcraven]

Ive got to do a presentation about Artaud and The Theatre of Cruelty. Is this something I should use or is it innacurate/ different from what Artaud wanted? Because if its sa slight bit wrong I wont be marked well.

Please can someone respond as I have to do the pres this week!

[Indaleciobraga]

No.. this isn't an apropriate exemple for that..

search to antoher things..

try to read some stuff and take your conclusions if you don't believe in what you see.. like this...

[archiebaldcraven]

Thanks alot... Im quite glad I cant use it actually because its a bit too graphic.

Ive got to give my presentation on tuesday and I'm going to use Artaud's play 'Jet of Blood' which is slightly disgusting but useable.

[Lovertits9]

that was twisted.

artaud would be proud.

[clarisspontania]

i thought that theatre of cruelty was less literal than that. i knew it was supossed to be shocking but i dont think it has to be that grotesque. this took the cruelty bit a little too literally.

[xxpurpleCHROMExx]

scary scary scary

even more so because it's truthful

[enricofiore22]

a portrait of humanity, genius

[Alienacionglobal]

ahaha what the fuck was that?!!

[JamesKoutz013]

that's the idea

[hilaryrules91]

That was just nasty-I'm gonna be having nightmares about that now...

[janlloyd12]

what a load of shit, uve seen worse in tom and jerry. fucking wank.

[avproducer]

excellent work

[marcosaut2630]

i thing it ´s the best reflexion in the XX century

[youkatietube]

im just obssesd with artauds work he was a mozart of hes time. im learning about him in school and he is so eccentric but creative this video clip freaked me out i like nearly throw up the work of artaud

[Savannahamykaylee111]

yeah artaud was a genius but he had such sick ideas and yea it did shock me and now i feel putrid !!

[yugenxzyugen]

trabajo actoral basico sin matices.

Efectos absurdos, cero trabajo de tiempo y espacio, pobre utilizacion de objetos, cero sentido de la sorpresa, poquisimo trabajo vocal.

La verdad que mas alla en regodearse en mugre este trabajo no me aporto nada.

[philbiedron]

bien trabajo, I am studying Artuad, however, it is impossible to capture Theatre of Cruelty if it isn't live.

[badaouiah]

What is the title? and where was it performed?

[born23021989]

This was a horrible piece of "Artaud". It uses nothing Artaud ever spoke of.

You people are idiots.

[bayles2006]

I think you will find it does actually.

Was it surreal? yes

was it shocking? yes

was it dependent on dialogue? no

That sounds pretty Artaudian to me

[aoife92]

And also theatre of cruelty was the main artaudian practice.

[warwickuniveristy20]

Very good.

But absolutely no need for that beginning introducing it with the mouth, and the ending with George Bush? I don't know, maybe, but I find it has just been shoved in for no reason but to try and add a political stance. There's no need for it.

Es muy bueno, has hecho algo que afecta el cuerpo y la mente. Pero no hay nececidad de tener esa boca cuando empieza y la voz de George Bush al final; eso se mata la tension de la pelicula.

[RNundlall]

absolutely, what george bush has to do with Artaud? it goes beyond me...

[garrc90]

wow this was excelent...

Im also studying Artaud now..

im just wondering if there is a soundtrack or something.. or music to go with these types of performances

[jesshall281]

excellent artaudian piece..really captured what he would have wanted. a lovely juxtaposition at the end too.

[GreenFairyPrincess]

fantastic!

[bubbles2279]

That Is absoultly discusting! im studying him now and he is a pretty sick basterd fair play!

[IWantWhatHesHaving]

you cant watch an artaud performance properly on a video. because the piece is about YOU watching it, about what YOU see around you, what YOU hear, touch,feel and even smell. So watching a video, does not give a good effect on Artaud, even though it that piece shocked me with deep disgust! it was a great performance well done!

[Morrisonii]

Theres a fable here kids! Don't go to France!

[bebop54]

ahahaha....

[NastyPixie]

i thought that artaud was absurdist... wow i got that wrong. Great peice. Haha. Awesomely revolting.

[TNTrickster]

That was the first Artaud piece i have seen.

ive been studying him and i thought, it can't be that bad. but it got me XD. i really want to see more of his style of theatre.

[bgatten]

You got the shock and craziness of Artaud's theoretical writings down (at least to some extent), but you didn't achieve what he was hoping to accomplish with all that shock and craziness. I don't feel purged of any negative tendencies or as if I've been in direct, honest communication with another soul as a result of watching this. To be fair, though, I suppose it's doubtful Artaud actually ever came close to accomplishing what he was aiming at, either.

[johnteshreturns]

Wonderful!

[rosamattina31]

Performance grande, pregna di senso e feroce critica

[slipknotinhell]

what....

the.....

fuck....

[froggy606]

It wasnt nice

But I was very aware of the theatre techniques that i wasn't entranced by it, it didnt make me believe it was real...

Which is what Antonin Artaud wanted, he wanted people to feel the experience, which they would not have felt here.

[olliethefisherman]

WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU ON!?

Artuad shouls be killed!?

without Artuad much of the physical theatre you se etoday would not exist, this is admitidly a very dark and distuurbing peice, but is is brilliant in its own way, dont take it at face value?

[BennyvilleBlue]

that WELL urned me on!

lol, joke...

thts the most horrifying thng i have EVER seen on youtube, if not ever, at all

Artuad was a mentally unstable freak.

his work is abysmal and wrong, he shouldve been killed.

[02jnmarchant]

he was basically a dead man in his life anyway, didnt have much of a life, being skitzo, paranoid, all other such things and being shunned from mental institution to mental institution at the end of his life...

[super7am]

Antonin lived with his head placed firmly in the noose

[alexthemod1]

you my friend are a fool. artaud was a genius and of too higher genius for the small minded ignorant people such as yourself to ever understand what he wanted to do.

[olliethefisherman]

u blatantly know fukall about theatre

[craigwithington]

Entertaining wrongness. I was pulling the same face as I did watching the horror film 'Them' throughout most of it. I liked the band best!

[pinkpony123]

that was sick, wrong and wierd. but i guess that whats artuad tried to do.

[dunkelheiit]

hola! sabes, me gustaria saber si conoces algo mas sobre el teatro de la crueldad, la verdad es que no encontre ninguna obra y no hay en las bibliotecas...si conoces alguna..puxa..igual bn.. eso ps..me avisas si conoces alguna porfis..se agradece mxo :)

saludos! jana

[animalariotv]

¡AYYYYYYYYY madre del amor hermoso,

si Antonin Artaud abriera sus tres ojos!

[ingridsofu]

vaya mierda

[neospeed56k]

Not bad at all. I think a few components were missing and I wasn't a fan of some things, but its a nice attempt at the "Impossible theatre."

[ilovetoosingxx]

god that was horrible :(

[invisibleman54]

.....good....

[pinkpony123]

artaud scared me! lol we learning about him in drama

[ruzickaw]

stupid. this gay did not understand anything about the Theatre of Cruelty.

[ophelieramboud]

I agree

[invisibleman54]

.....take each thing as symbols and it makes sense, the woman is only useful if she gives birth (you can be the queen) and all the man wants is sex, the woman does not want that and is hung because she does not give the man what he wants (menstruation as symbol of ready for sex, man as symbol of phallic)....

[sangpenari16]

that's true but what are the symbols of the papers that the guy pinned on the girl?

is it represents the children?

[HystericalAndUseless]

This is pretty fantastic. The most artaud anyone seems to dare to be.

[lustmyeyes]

Definitely makes an audience feel uncomfortable - Antonin Artaud strived for this.

However, I don't understand what you're making out here.. I see themes and what not.. but where are the iron bonds that bring the story together?

Good surrealism. Good editting.

<3

[zeophoto]

El Topo El Cheapo

[squidsimpleton]

Eraserhead did it better.

[ytCarnage]

Not since David Lynch...

[shakmooll]

geneous

[DrFreemanstein]

would you like to explain what is exactly "geneous" about this??

It was terrible!

[shakmooll]

it's called SURREALISIM

[DrFreemanstein]

The only surrealist works I can tolerate are Dali's...and only a few of them at that...this kind of stuff doesn't do it for me I'm afraid, the only feelings it induced were confusion and repulsion...not key feelings I look for in art, so, in my mind, it's not art...

[shakmooll]

thats what anton artaud was going for he pushed the boundaries of modern theater.

you cant really do that without freaking someone out.

[DrFreemanstein]

I don't mind being a little freaked out by art...Damien Hurst's work fascinates me...but it's the difference I suppose, between morbidly fascinating and just repellant.

[shakmooll]

ah! damien is great !

speaking of disturbing art do i even neeed to mention H.R Giger?

[DrFreemanstein]

Ah Giger! I love Giger! Picked up a Taschen book of his work the other day! I've loved his works since I was about 14 when I picked two posters..."Biomechanoid" and "Birth Machine"...and then of course there is Alien and Species...

(Oooh! Hang On! I never realised the word species is an exception to "I before E" rule!)

[shakmooll]

Ive read his book 'Necronomicon' ragged!

the pages are practically falling off!

[dimsolvent]

Who are you to speak like that anyway?

[saturnascends93]

muy buena!!!!!!!