if this had been a no holds barred fight/cage fight/MMA, the BJJ fighter would have have a way better chance, because he could use strikes/kicks/cage to his advantage against the Judoka. But since it was Judo rules, once the BJJ was on his back (Ippon) it was over, but in a MMA fight (which is more realistic than Judo rules), the BJJ guy would be at home on his back, instead of the Judo guy getting the point and then starting over each time.
Both Judo and Jiu Jitsu are very deadly! Imagine the poor fool who trys to pick pocket them! they'll wake up in the E.R thinking to themselves...wow I just got my ass kicked
i just realized...i first seen this about 2 years ago, and i thought this guy was pretty good at judo..but iv been doing judo for about 9 and a half months now, and he seems pretty basic..i mean yea he's ground was good, but he locked up so much, and kept he's head down looking at the feet...thats what new people to judo do..i still find myself looking at the feet a lot, and i tend to stiff up if my foe gets ippon..but he's just...man, my opinion of he's judo is greatly damaged.
..For MMA Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu may be more effective but for real life situations Judo is clearly more effective. If you are a well versed Judoka and you perform a harai-goshi or hanai-goshi onto pavement then the other guy is not getting up, trust me on that.
And this is from somebody who has trained in Judo, Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, Catch Wrestling and Sanda Kickboxing for almost 10 years.
I'm more in the BJJ camp, but I have to agree. Judo is very applicable to real world self defense. In fact, I'd like to find a place in my area that does train (since I moved) because my exposure to Judo is limited, but it impressed the hell out of me. It's still a very underrated art, and not just by people who don't do martial arts, either.
as a keen judoka i find it insulting to the sport that two MMA meat heads can even phathom that they could possibly beat a judo master. hell the judoka went easy on him for the cameras lol
I remember laughing out loud at the concept that either of these jokers would handle a high level judoka. Having trained some judo many moons ago, high level vs a noob is a serious, serious level change. So few understand how really great a style Judo is.
That was a match between a mediocre jujitsuka and a excellent judoka,,,The high leval judokas spend hours and hours on their newaza (ground game)... There's some stories here in Brazil , about some judokas finishing some Brazilian jiujitsukas (i.e. Ezequiel from the ezequiel choke/sode guruma jime) But the vast majority of BJJitsukas have a advantage on the ground game and a disadvantage on the stand up (nagewaza) against a judoka of the same technical level....
@xXBkzDrChuLoXx Jason was a pro MMA fighter who won ten of his bouts by submission so I'd say he probably does have some grappling skills. He got beaten by someone who's better at takedowns than he is. Everyone loses, doesn't mean he doesn't have any skill.
Well, I only have my yellow belt in Judo, but these guys are right, it is no easy martial art. You can get seriously hurt if you don't know what you're up against or if you're not "Judo trained" >.<
The Judo T.V. host is such a toolbag! "I went for an armbar like I had learned at the Kyoto police department." Dude...you did the moves for maybe 15 minutes...if that. This guy has a black belt in judo and has been doing it for 23 years!...Try going against a yellow belt or something!
@LidarDan15 They guy trains at Eddie Bravo's 10th Plant Jiu-Jitsu, and he is an MMA fighter... So he clearly didn't do the movies for "maybe 15 minutes"...
@xAristaicx 10th planet jiu jitsu; which is sport jiu jitsu. It's not meant for self defense. It's meant for jiu jitsu tournaments where strikes are not a threat.
@LidarDan15 actually it is for when strikes is a threat. If you saw eddie's book, it says its for MMA. And we can see guys in pride and ufc using his techniques.
@LidarDan15 although I agree with you, note, the tv host (Jason) is well trained in grappling due to his JiuJitsu training for MMA. Since the judoka did not display any ground game when fighting Jason, it's hard to know what would be the real outcome in a ADCC style match.
"with my strength and size i can push this guy all over the mat." Erm. Isn't Judo DESIGNED to help smaller dudes take on bigger guys?? It's like these guys learn absolutely nothing from their travels.
I think the 'use your opponents force against them' line has been exposed as sales tool for martial arts schools. Why do Judo AND boxing have weight classes? Because unless the fighters are totally untrained, the bigger guy *always* has a massive advantage.
If you realise, they have weight categories coupled with skill categories. Tyson doesn't box with an amateur no matter what his weight is. A new student who's 250lbs can easily be eaten up by a lighter black belt any day.
With the tiny amount of training these guys went through, even such a weight advantage is still hugely in the black belts' favour.
And no, it's not a sales tool for martial arts schools. I should know. I've been a martial artist for 11 years now.
@Andybaby My friend has an 80 pound weight advantage, and only one belt level below me. I win 60% of the time on the ground with him. I just use speed instead of strength, my condition is also superior. You can be big but without conditioning your done, dont even bother on the ground.
@TheRealParagon "You can be big but without conditioning your done, dont even bother on the ground."
Oh, absolutely. I remember my first few months in BJJ, and even when on days I didn't tap, I still felt like I got run over by a train when I grappled with someone with superior transitioning, technique, and cardio. Condition is a crucial factor in any fighting style, and it applies in spades on the mat.
yea big people do have an edge cuz if your fast you can move people better then a smaller person, but in the same way small people have a different edge, they gotta squat less. sure tall and heavy ppl can move you better, but its harder to throw a small person cuz we'll have to squat to pick them up, small people can throw u without squating, because they're center of gravity is already below yours. your right though, judo is for small people, but big ppl got the edge in moving people around.
@nasri Very true do to me being big and powerful naturaly The biggest thing i learned was to be relaxed because i dont need to use it And honestly that was the hardest part of learning the style for me and my dad who is also my instructor showed me the hard way that he can beat me every time with out useing any power at all
If that guy in blue really has a lot of experience in mma, then he should be able to sweep him because his opponent is pretty fat. Fat guys can't handle sweeps. I can say that from 9 years of experience in sweeping fat guys.
ok, so how come fedor has never really been sweeped, and how come he does all the seeping? it doesnt have anything to do with being fat. it has to do with center of balance which comes with years of training. ive seen fat people beat lean people in amateur wrestling matches all of the time. you dont have to be lean to be a good grappler.
@mmajudojjr actually, it's harder to sweep fat people because their center mass is heavier and more power is needed for the technique. Also, most MMA fighters are horrible at sweeps or trips. Most guys rely on their wrestling and shoot for double leg takedown, etc. That's why many MMA fighters are incorporating no-gi style Judo throws & sweeps to combat the lack of sweeps that's in MMA these days.
As a tall guy , I always felt the short, stockier guys had the advantage in Judo w their lower centre of gravity. Are there any tall, thin just champions?
you guys are retarded laughing & saying he got beat, and all this bs. the whole point of the show was to showcase how cool and unique judo is. ive watched a few judo fights and guys go ape shit on eachother, not sparring around like this.
jason is 18-5 in pro mma fights, wtf do u think the judo guy is gonna do in a real fight after he throws jason down, pin him? oo thats cool, wonder what his throws are gonna do for him after he gets knocked in the face.
@le2key talk is cheap punk how about you come down to north carolina and show us how judo is so worthless u have no idea about judo you dont know crap not even the first thing about judo
@TheLastSamuraiTyler whoaaa keep your dick outta ur ass there bud, i never said judo was worthless infact im a huge of judo. what you might have missed is that fact that i was going off on the comments on here that were talking bullshit about that match between jason and that japanese guy. not judo itself, yah cunt.
@TheLastSamuraiTyler look I know that he means well and he does have a point that if a guy starts kicking, punching and keeps a distance between him and the Judoka, good chance the judoka will lose BUT as I told him earlier, if the Judoka closes the distance, that guy has very little chance to survive the fight.
@le2key if a judoka closes a distance and throws you with lets say a powerful and clean uchimata or Ippon Seio Nage onto the ground, there's a good chance you will be knocked out (KO) if not KO than definitely shocked for at least 2-4 seconds + bodily damage (broken ribs, hip, shoulder, etc). During the 2-4 seconds that you're in shock the judoka can either gain distance or proceed to the ground into a submission and trust me during the 2-4 seconds you wont have any idea of what's happening.
Dude you suck if you cant move your opponent than go for the legs GOD im 14 freakin years old and have no experience just me and my cousins fightin it out and i can kick the crap out of you
What bullshit at 4:04 he says he goes for an arm bar. But really just goes for a triangle choke. At 5:05 he says he goes for a sacrifice THROW but just tries a flying arm bar instead. At 6:20 he just flops to his back. This guy didn't even try judo he just wanted to prove that BJJ is better and he got out classed. Jason Chambers is a BJJ guy from 10th planet jiu jitsu under eddie bravo. A brown belt. And he got out classed by a simple black belt judoka. Hmm......
@PankrationWarrior Well, in my opinion all of those moves Jason tried looked like "pulling guard" which is up the BJJ alley... he looked pathetic. I sure wanted to see the Judoka proceed to newaza (ground grappling) instead of stalling on purpose.
@PankrationWarrior possible but everyone knows Judo is not the art of throwing. Based on what I read before, over 30% of Judo fights end on the ground via pin or submission. So it's wrong to say that Judo is an art of throwing. This guy simply wanted to prove that JiuJitsu people can't throw if their lives depended on it, that's all ... he said I want to use Judo strategy, meaning, throw and win via ippon.
You fucking dumb azzez need to take your juvenile and sissy internet arguments else where. This is about martial arts. You retards. Stay on this video or get the fuck out. I hate online sissies who argue with people. Such bitches.
You can't throw or sweep an experienced Judoka when you got a Gi on, this is fighting on their terms.
In his situation, the only way he would have to to shoot the legs, not use throwing techniques against someone who could do them far better, let alone the Gi issue.
Once on the ground it would be foregone conclusion, as long as you do it under their "time limit"
signature MMA move ?, Triangle choke ? so he obviously doesnt know that the 'triangle choke' also known as sankaku jime was taken from judo into brazilian jiu jitsu as were most brazilian jiu jitsu techniques.
@cptprice14 yes you are correct, nice to see some people actually study martial arts instead of just train in them, sankaku jime was most probably taken from the Tenjin Shin'yō-ryū which was the main influence in kano's judo. its self an amalgamation of Yōshin-ryū and Shin no Shinto-ryu.
@jonesayy I Don't really do brazilian or japanese jiu jitsu though. I do a style of jiu jitsu called 10th Planet Jiu Jitsu. Are You Familiar With it? It was created by eddie bravo.
@jonesayy MMA has developed into a very commercial sport, so by signature move i think he just meant that a triangle is identified very heavily in MMA. i see your point but its really not a big deal.
@jonesayy Yeah dude I hate to hear this in mma every time: everybody thinks armbars, chokes and postions like mount or side control come form bjj >__>
@jonesayy most people don't know that BJJ is Judo with more focus on knife defense with emphasis on the ground game. BJJ was originally Judo taught to a gracie grand son. =) but you right. BJJ is judo
@jonesayy Any way, it is a signature MMA move. If he didn't know it also existis in judo he wouldn't use, because in judo you cant use moves that doesn't exists in it.
This fight is stupid. He had him set up for a tri-angle and the Judo guy sat around held onto a gi (anyone else feel we arnt stuck hundreds of years back ??)
I think after that last Tai-Otoshi, Ogawa came down with his elbow into the ribs. You see Jason holding his ribs at the end? He was totally toying with Jason. What do you expect though. Ogawa was a National champ at one point. He never made A level judo though. I believe he was B or C level.
@k0d0kan The guy in the video is Okawa, not Ogawa(notice the spelling). Those are two completely different people. Yes, Ogawa was a national judo champ. Okawa in the video is just a practioner, not a champion.
at 5:38 if he would have brought his left foot into his right knee he would have a reverse triangle, not as tight but can control enough for a kimura on the opposite side, thats what he was talking about
Tokai is one of the top 3 leading judo programs in all of Japan. Of course they will get their @ss handed to them. Its just like someone visiting Ohio State or Duke and asking to practice with their varsity basketball team
(1) Big guy said "I think I can push him all over the place". This would result in you being owned with several other backward momentum throws. Judo is based on disrupting balance and utilizing momentum. So you were apparently already missing the point. (2) Men bow with their hands on the side. Women bow with hands in front. (3) Missed the leaping arm by inches? Com'n dude, you weren't even close.
@KAMAERUE If I Recall my history correctly, it was created by a Mr. G Kano (hope that's the correct way round sure Trad. Japanese names should have the surname first) who wanted to do Jujtisu... but due to his height, he wasn' t really taken seriously. He found the best JJ school by following the trail of broken bones and chatting to doctors.
Judo was derived from Jujitsu, which was most certainly used on the battlefield (look at ancient Japanese silk paintings).
I don't know what these guys expect. They are sparring agains black belts in their own martial arts. Why do they not ask to spar green belts, or even orange belts, for sport, (not lethal competition) to see the identity of the art. The blacks have big egos to protect......of course they're not going to take it easy on these TV guys. come on.
@freespadersuggs That's the point of these things. These guys want to show us how hard it is to be a true master and to show respect for the art. They could just have the football player go and wreck some scrub every time if they wanted to.
"He is good at ground technique" ..No he really isnt. One of the Gracie's said "The better grappler will dominate against the weaker one" and it 's true,see past episodes where they learn strikes and they go almost toe to toe,because of the strength,but grappling is pure technique
Is this guy kidding us? I actually think that Okawa was going easy on the guy. This guy's comments are stupidities like: "this guy is like a rock", "I can't move him", "it is easier to move you than him", "Judo is very technical", "I am going to stay out of his comfort zone" bla, bla, bla... This is a joke!
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if this had been a no holds barred fight/cage fight/MMA, the BJJ fighter would have have a way better chance, because he could use strikes/kicks/cage to his advantage against the Judoka. But since it was Judo rules, once the BJJ was on his back (Ippon) it was over, but in a MMA fight (which is more realistic than Judo rules), the BJJ guy would be at home on his back, instead of the Judo guy getting the point and then starting over each time.
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justin1138 1 year ago
Both Judo and Jiu Jitsu are very deadly! Imagine the poor fool who trys to pick pocket them! they'll wake up in the E.R thinking to themselves...wow I just got my ass kicked
HO84transam 1 year ago
pro versus amateur, was there ever any doubt?
highwaymantokyo 1 year ago
judo plus meteor hammer equals fucked... in life or death...
HerrSpieldose 1 year ago
This guys moves are so simple. I learned these moves within the first 3 purple stripes.
mlisoff 1 year ago
over taped aint he? lmao
KurtBaclig 1 year ago
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these retards dont know shit about martial arts!!
SuperGoose65 1 year ago
"this guys good" DUHHHH he just kicked your ass bitch
Ramox3 1 year ago
Whats with so much tape?
SuperCamo111 1 year ago
bill with his black belt in football, doesnt really know much... jason isnt bad tbh
leshark 1 year ago 3
i just realized...i first seen this about 2 years ago, and i thought this guy was pretty good at judo..but iv been doing judo for about 9 and a half months now, and he seems pretty basic..i mean yea he's ground was good, but he locked up so much, and kept he's head down looking at the feet...thats what new people to judo do..i still find myself looking at the feet a lot, and i tend to stiff up if my foe gets ippon..but he's just...man, my opinion of he's judo is greatly damaged.
REDSAMURAI307 1 year ago
i hope he was impressed by that ass whooping
wtfasiankid8o8 1 year ago
This guy was lucky the black belt took it easy on him. He could have thrown him on his head. Everytime he threw the white belt he put him down easy.
aoburgos 1 year ago 2
@BreeZeee000000 i think so
masterbenives09 1 year ago
is this a show??
BreeZeee000000 1 year ago
..For MMA Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu may be more effective but for real life situations Judo is clearly more effective. If you are a well versed Judoka and you perform a harai-goshi or hanai-goshi onto pavement then the other guy is not getting up, trust me on that.
And this is from somebody who has trained in Judo, Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, Catch Wrestling and Sanda Kickboxing for almost 10 years.
Dungarth 1 year ago
@Dungarth
I'm more in the BJJ camp, but I have to agree. Judo is very applicable to real world self defense. In fact, I'd like to find a place in my area that does train (since I moved) because my exposure to Judo is limited, but it impressed the hell out of me. It's still a very underrated art, and not just by people who don't do martial arts, either.
Wytchfinde 1 year ago
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ultimatehock 1 year ago
DAMN! i love judo but i'm 2 meters tall.
Obiwan198 1 year ago
as a keen judoka i find it insulting to the sport that two MMA meat heads can even phathom that they could possibly beat a judo master. hell the judoka went easy on him for the cameras lol
GVlogs 1 year ago
I remember laughing out loud at the concept that either of these jokers would handle a high level judoka. Having trained some judo many moons ago, high level vs a noob is a serious, serious level change. So few understand how really great a style Judo is.
jeffinphx 1 year ago
Them 2 are full of shit! I would of put my house on the Judo man winning with complete ease. What a pair of mugs. He even put a gum shield in.
paulyd101 1 year ago 2
Them 2 are full of shit! I would of put my house on the Judo man winning with complete ease.
paulyd101 1 year ago
I don't understand why the bald guy thinks that he is strong and/or powerful.
123gwf 1 year ago
@123gwf Cause he was player pro football so he got a ego from that.
runewarrior0 1 year ago
shido for blocking...
HunterWoelfchen 1 year ago
why all the tape? dumbass is making it harder for himself with that crap...this aint karate
CyBeRTRoNFLuX 1 year ago
more like "ipowned"
metalwaffle94 1 year ago
wow he wasnt even trying to use judo moves, he kept trying mma moves on him and failed.
tried to cheat and still lost.
DontComplain 1 year ago
"Missed him by, inches" bullshit, dude was probably like wtf are you trying to do?
BlazedtotheMax 1 year ago 35
@BlazedtotheMax hahahaha
metalwaffle94 1 year ago
@BlazedtotheMax My thoughts exactly, lol.
dannojmanno 1 year ago
they should of called up Karo Parisian . He would of thrown that guy down and submitted him .
wolverinemma 1 year ago
At 6:20 when Jason Chambers says "missed him by inches" rofl!!! More like 2 feet!
yussefumaketse 1 year ago
not much padding
clat1 1 year ago
white belts fighting black belts??
r2ockthehouse 1 year ago
he had an omoplata at 5:38...
deltacharlie88 1 year ago
Love how he says he almost had triangle choke, while clearly he had no control over his opponent's arm and was about to get stacked.
NoFrag0 1 year ago
That was a match between a mediocre jujitsuka and a excellent judoka,,,The high leval judokas spend hours and hours on their newaza (ground game)... There's some stories here in Brazil , about some judokas finishing some Brazilian jiujitsukas (i.e. Ezequiel from the ezequiel choke/sode guruma jime) But the vast majority of BJJitsukas have a advantage on the ground game and a disadvantage on the stand up (nagewaza) against a judoka of the same technical level....
EddieMoreira7 1 year ago
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@EddieMoreira7 Then you've answered my question...
A very good Judoka can take on a seasoned Ju Jitsu practitioner!!!
theman2017inc 1 year ago
y'all are some big talkers on the computer, probably never been in a fight in your life.
BillionDollaBaby94 1 year ago
@BillionDollaBaby94
is '94 your birthday? That's cute
EyeHi 1 year ago
@EyeHi lol its just a number i chose for my name, thanks i guess
BillionDollaBaby94 1 year ago
these americans are a couple of wankers with their heads so far up their asses, they have no comprehension of what they're trying to do.
jeewilliker 1 year ago 3
@jeewilliker :-)
theman2017inc 1 year ago
hahah. he says he knows jiu jitsu. what did he do? read the jiu jitsu for dummies book. he clearly doesnt have grappling skills.
xXBkzDrChuLoXx 1 year ago
@xXBkzDrChuLoXx Jason was a pro MMA fighter who won ten of his bouts by submission so I'd say he probably does have some grappling skills. He got beaten by someone who's better at takedowns than he is. Everyone loses, doesn't mean he doesn't have any skill.
ProfessorScience 1 year ago 2
@ProfessorScience So are you saying a very good Judoka can take on a seasoned Ju Jitsu practitioner?
theman2017inc 1 year ago
@theman2017inc It's all about the player. Both styles are very good.
brainstew232 1 year ago 2
@brainstew232 You'd say that both Ju Jitsu and Judo have their merits???? Ok :-)
theman2017inc 1 year ago
@brainstew232 :-) ok!!!
theman2017inc 1 year ago
the dude cant bend over or he'll get his ass owned he fight tall and proud no bending over
gdrdfgtrerdhetyhrtrs 1 year ago
yea, bull rush a master of judo...... great idea if you want to eat some mat through the back of you head
MattyMatt761 1 year ago
i can rape both of dem
Dunganin31 1 year ago
these guys suck!
keeponblinking 1 year ago
why do the guys who is loosing loosing the tie on their shirt(dress)..whatever it called
raztin1 1 year ago
Well, I only have my yellow belt in Judo, but these guys are right, it is no easy martial art. You can get seriously hurt if you don't know what you're up against or if you're not "Judo trained" >.<
cutemidget09 1 year ago
The Judo T.V. host is such a toolbag! "I went for an armbar like I had learned at the Kyoto police department." Dude...you did the moves for maybe 15 minutes...if that. This guy has a black belt in judo and has been doing it for 23 years!...Try going against a yellow belt or something!
LidarDan15 1 year ago
@LidarDan15 They guy trains at Eddie Bravo's 10th Plant Jiu-Jitsu, and he is an MMA fighter... So he clearly didn't do the movies for "maybe 15 minutes"...
xAristaicx 1 year ago
@xAristaicx 10th planet jiu jitsu; which is sport jiu jitsu. It's not meant for self defense. It's meant for jiu jitsu tournaments where strikes are not a threat.
LidarDan15 1 year ago
@LidarDan15 actually it is for when strikes is a threat. If you saw eddie's book, it says its for MMA. And we can see guys in pride and ufc using his techniques.
YiuYeung 1 year ago
@LidarDan15 although I agree with you, note, the tv host (Jason) is well trained in grappling due to his JiuJitsu training for MMA. Since the judoka did not display any ground game when fighting Jason, it's hard to know what would be the real outcome in a ADCC style match.
pcjudosambo 1 year ago
He doesnt practise "jujitsu". He is an american mma clown meaning that he practise BJJ, aka the kids version of jujitsu.
Elbottoo 1 year ago
"with my strength and size i can push this guy all over the mat." Erm. Isn't Judo DESIGNED to help smaller dudes take on bigger guys?? It's like these guys learn absolutely nothing from their travels.
nasri 1 year ago 49
@nasri
I think the 'use your opponents force against them' line has been exposed as sales tool for martial arts schools. Why do Judo AND boxing have weight classes? Because unless the fighters are totally untrained, the bigger guy *always* has a massive advantage.
Andybaby 1 year ago
@Andybaby
If you realise, they have weight categories coupled with skill categories. Tyson doesn't box with an amateur no matter what his weight is. A new student who's 250lbs can easily be eaten up by a lighter black belt any day.
With the tiny amount of training these guys went through, even such a weight advantage is still hugely in the black belts' favour.
And no, it's not a sales tool for martial arts schools. I should know. I've been a martial artist for 11 years now.
Peace.
nasri 1 year ago
@Andybaby My friend has an 80 pound weight advantage, and only one belt level below me. I win 60% of the time on the ground with him. I just use speed instead of strength, my condition is also superior. You can be big but without conditioning your done, dont even bother on the ground.
TheRealParagon 1 year ago
@TheRealParagon "You can be big but without conditioning your done, dont even bother on the ground."
Oh, absolutely. I remember my first few months in BJJ, and even when on days I didn't tap, I still felt like I got run over by a train when I grappled with someone with superior transitioning, technique, and cardio. Condition is a crucial factor in any fighting style, and it applies in spades on the mat.
Wytchfinde 1 year ago
@nasri :-)
theman2017inc 1 year ago
@nasri True that. Judo throws come from momentum and this guy said "I'm just going to bullrush him" lol
JiuJitsuNate 1 year ago
@nasri No, it isn't.
ThatScot 1 year ago
@ThatScot I'm sure you know better
nasri 1 year ago
@nasri if he pushed forwards the judoka would just do like drop seoi/uchi mata/tai otoshi lol
superapplefanboy 1 year ago
yea big people do have an edge cuz if your fast you can move people better then a smaller person, but in the same way small people have a different edge, they gotta squat less. sure tall and heavy ppl can move you better, but its harder to throw a small person cuz we'll have to squat to pick them up, small people can throw u without squating, because they're center of gravity is already below yours. your right though, judo is for small people, but big ppl got the edge in moving people around.
REDSAMURAI307 1 year ago
@nasri fucking lold haha the guy has no idea what JUDO is all about
jajebiewpizdujebana 1 year ago
@nasri 白帶水平 如此想法 不出為奇
a199452a 1 year ago
@nasri Very true do to me being big and powerful naturaly The biggest thing i learned was to be relaxed because i dont need to use it And honestly that was the hardest part of learning the style for me and my dad who is also my instructor showed me the hard way that he can beat me every time with out useing any power at all
Footbal72 1 year ago
@nasri Yeah, the big bald dude is a dick.
dannojmanno 1 year ago
what a dumbass. okawa's ashi waza could have killed him as soon as they made contact.
TubeYouSucka808 1 year ago
it was a ippon okwa wins
stakisolo 1 year ago
This pretty boy isn't anything special.
colonforsecs 1 year ago
If that guy in blue really has a lot of experience in mma, then he should be able to sweep him because his opponent is pretty fat. Fat guys can't handle sweeps. I can say that from 9 years of experience in sweeping fat guys.
mmajudojjr 1 year ago
@mmajudojjr
ok, so how come fedor has never really been sweeped, and how come he does all the seeping? it doesnt have anything to do with being fat. it has to do with center of balance which comes with years of training. ive seen fat people beat lean people in amateur wrestling matches all of the time. you dont have to be lean to be a good grappler.
docbach329 1 year ago
@mmajudojjr actually, it's harder to sweep fat people because their center mass is heavier and more power is needed for the technique. Also, most MMA fighters are horrible at sweeps or trips. Most guys rely on their wrestling and shoot for double leg takedown, etc. That's why many MMA fighters are incorporating no-gi style Judo throws & sweeps to combat the lack of sweeps that's in MMA these days.
pcjudosambo 1 year ago
you cant learn judo in a matter of months... you can't learn any sport that fast
so don't challenge fuckin masters in that art
MrGreen166 1 year ago
As a tall guy , I always felt the short, stockier guys had the advantage in Judo w their lower centre of gravity. Are there any tall, thin just champions?
Andybaby 1 year ago
@Andybaby Anton Geesink [ht. 6'6"- wt. 320lbs]
PankrationWarrior 1 year ago
@PankrationWarrior
Geesink was a giant mass of muscle. I mean tall /slim ectomorph (?) body shape.
Andybaby 1 year ago
I feel like there's some tension between those two main characters... & they're super lame. The both of them. Total TV guys.
herrkamphenkel 1 year ago 2
they suck man
shad0w405 1 year ago
theese idiots call it epon its ippon
blazethekiller11 1 year ago
you guys are retarded laughing & saying he got beat, and all this bs. the whole point of the show was to showcase how cool and unique judo is. ive watched a few judo fights and guys go ape shit on eachother, not sparring around like this.
jason is 18-5 in pro mma fights, wtf do u think the judo guy is gonna do in a real fight after he throws jason down, pin him? oo thats cool, wonder what his throws are gonna do for him after he gets knocked in the face.
le2key 1 year ago 2
@le2key talk is cheap punk how about you come down to north carolina and show us how judo is so worthless u have no idea about judo you dont know crap not even the first thing about judo
TheLastSamuraiTyler 1 year ago
@TheLastSamuraiTyler whoaaa keep your dick outta ur ass there bud, i never said judo was worthless infact im a huge of judo. what you might have missed is that fact that i was going off on the comments on here that were talking bullshit about that match between jason and that japanese guy. not judo itself, yah cunt.
le2key 1 year ago
@TheLastSamuraiTyler look I know that he means well and he does have a point that if a guy starts kicking, punching and keeps a distance between him and the Judoka, good chance the judoka will lose BUT as I told him earlier, if the Judoka closes the distance, that guy has very little chance to survive the fight.
pcjudosambo 1 year ago
@le2key if a judoka closes a distance and throws you with lets say a powerful and clean uchimata or Ippon Seio Nage onto the ground, there's a good chance you will be knocked out (KO) if not KO than definitely shocked for at least 2-4 seconds + bodily damage (broken ribs, hip, shoulder, etc). During the 2-4 seconds that you're in shock the judoka can either gain distance or proceed to the ground into a submission and trust me during the 2-4 seconds you wont have any idea of what's happening.
pcjudosambo 1 year ago
When you walk into a Japanese judo school, every single one of them will look at you and think 'Foreigner'.
In Japan 'Foreigner' implies 'About to die'
p3rs0nan0ngrata 1 year ago
Jason Chambers got owned in this match. His commentary was to make him look better than he really was. Jason = fail.
wesofoz2 1 year ago
Damn, Tai Otoshi for the third ippon, FTW!!!
NuheroX 1 year ago
@NuheroX totally dude his uchimata wasnt to bad either my favorite throw is harai goshi
TheLastSamuraiTyler 1 year ago
Dude you suck if you cant move your opponent than go for the legs GOD im 14 freakin years old and have no experience just me and my cousins fightin it out and i can kick the crap out of you
thebacon10 1 year ago
What bullshit at 4:04 he says he goes for an arm bar. But really just goes for a triangle choke. At 5:05 he says he goes for a sacrifice THROW but just tries a flying arm bar instead. At 6:20 he just flops to his back. This guy didn't even try judo he just wanted to prove that BJJ is better and he got out classed. Jason Chambers is a BJJ guy from 10th planet jiu jitsu under eddie bravo. A brown belt. And he got out classed by a simple black belt judoka. Hmm......
PankrationWarrior 1 year ago
@PankrationWarrior Well, in my opinion all of those moves Jason tried looked like "pulling guard" which is up the BJJ alley... he looked pathetic. I sure wanted to see the Judoka proceed to newaza (ground grappling) instead of stalling on purpose.
pcjudosambo 1 year ago
@pcjudosambo He stalled on purpose to represent Japanese Judo as the art of throwing.
PankrationWarrior 1 year ago
@PankrationWarrior possible but everyone knows Judo is not the art of throwing. Based on what I read before, over 30% of Judo fights end on the ground via pin or submission. So it's wrong to say that Judo is an art of throwing. This guy simply wanted to prove that JiuJitsu people can't throw if their lives depended on it, that's all ... he said I want to use Judo strategy, meaning, throw and win via ippon.
pcjudosambo 1 year ago
You fucking dumb azzez need to take your juvenile and sissy internet arguments else where. This is about martial arts. You retards. Stay on this video or get the fuck out. I hate online sissies who argue with people. Such bitches.
Shaolinkungfucat 1 year ago
3 Ippons, The Japanese fellow basically beat the hell out of him.
theGroveMan 1 year ago
In holland we call him; an anus... ;-)
royheurik 1 year ago
You can't throw or sweep an experienced Judoka when you got a Gi on, this is fighting on their terms.
In his situation, the only way he would have to to shoot the legs, not use throwing techniques against someone who could do them far better, let alone the Gi issue.
Once on the ground it would be foregone conclusion, as long as you do it under their "time limit"
Jason couldn't do that either.
762full 1 year ago
knocking some one using hippon is crazy, u guys gotta try
MakeLadiesHappy 1 year ago
i've done judo for a long time , if u put ur head down ur fucked
NoMercyForTheWeak001 1 year ago
aww pore american boy, you didnt stand a chanse^^
larsha92 1 year ago
signature MMA move ?, Triangle choke ? so he obviously doesnt know that the 'triangle choke' also known as sankaku jime was taken from judo into brazilian jiu jitsu as were most brazilian jiu jitsu techniques.
jonesayy 1 year ago 31
@jonesayy triangle choke was even used in pangration in the olympics game's
400 b.c
Min3ralakos 1 year ago
@jonesayy Exactly man, it's just a simle translation
firebird991190606 1 year ago
@jonesayy oh wasnt the triangle taken from japanese jujitsu and then from jap jujitsu judo was created?
cptprice14 1 year ago
@cptprice14 yes you are correct, nice to see some people actually study martial arts instead of just train in them, sankaku jime was most probably taken from the Tenjin Shin'yō-ryū which was the main influence in kano's judo. its self an amalgamation of Yōshin-ryū and Shin no Shinto-ryu.
jonesayy 1 year ago
@jonesayy I Don't really do brazilian or japanese jiu jitsu though. I do a style of jiu jitsu called 10th Planet Jiu Jitsu. Are You Familiar With it? It was created by eddie bravo.
cptprice14 1 year ago
@jonesayy MMA has developed into a very commercial sport, so by signature move i think he just meant that a triangle is identified very heavily in MMA. i see your point but its really not a big deal.
nocturnal5150 1 year ago
@jonesayy Yeah dude I hate to hear this in mma every time: everybody thinks armbars, chokes and postions like mount or side control come form bjj >__>
ThomasMin1988 1 year ago
@jonesayy most people don't know that BJJ is Judo with more focus on knife defense with emphasis on the ground game. BJJ was originally Judo taught to a gracie grand son. =) but you right. BJJ is judo
RonStarLongShanks 1 year ago
@jonesayy Any way, it is a signature MMA move. If he didn't know it also existis in judo he wouldn't use, because in judo you cant use moves that doesn't exists in it.
Rnt911 1 year ago
how did they even think this was gonna work, The guy was rock, a standing rock that threw people like cotton
bluereaperz 1 year ago
They had no chance, i practice judo and no white belt can ever throw a black belt. "i missed by inches" bullshit.
comeddian 1 year ago
the warrior made of tape
DeliciousPoop 1 year ago
This fight is stupid. He had him set up for a tri-angle and the Judo guy sat around held onto a gi (anyone else feel we arnt stuck hundreds of years back ??)
fcuk4220 1 year ago
@fcuk4220 The guy didnt do it right, he had shit lol
MKReQuIeM 1 year ago
Okawa has 30-35 lbs on this guy. Difference mostly muscle. Kudos to the 'kid'guy for taking him on.. and he showed good character too
sparwood8 1 year ago
Man, that last throw had a nice solid thump XD
PainMonkey 1 year ago
I think after that last Tai-Otoshi, Ogawa came down with his elbow into the ribs. You see Jason holding his ribs at the end? He was totally toying with Jason. What do you expect though. Ogawa was a National champ at one point. He never made A level judo though. I believe he was B or C level.
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@k0d0kan The guy in the video is Okawa, not Ogawa(notice the spelling). Those are two completely different people. Yes, Ogawa was a national judo champ. Okawa in the video is just a practioner, not a champion.
thechamp673 1 year ago
@k0d0kan I never heard of levels in Judo, what are they?
pcjudosambo 1 year ago
at 5:38 if he would have brought his left foot into his right knee he would have a reverse triangle, not as tight but can control enough for a kimura on the opposite side, thats what he was talking about
ethanjames391 1 year ago
Epic MMA fail.
jimmybryght 1 year ago
Lol, this whole thing is stupid. That guy didn't almost catch anything on the black belt.
YngvaiGilbert 1 year ago
lol the triangle choke and the flying armbar weren't even close I can tell
ThomasMin1988 1 year ago
@ThomasMin1988 yeah, the 'I missed by inches' about the flying armbar was total bollocks lol 6:21
neonica2000 1 year ago
Tokai is one of the top 3 leading judo programs in all of Japan. Of course they will get their @ss handed to them. Its just like someone visiting Ohio State or Duke and asking to practice with their varsity basketball team
aznguyinusa 1 year ago
would so like to see how Bill Duff would fair...
Think that kind of thing would be a visual treat that would never get old.
Like a child fighting with gravity on a swing and loosing (always funny).
Besides, can you really see the Japanese allowing some round eye wannabes get the better of then in a sport/grappling system they invented...?
scopeophile 1 year ago
(1) Big guy said "I think I can push him all over the place". This would result in you being owned with several other backward momentum throws. Judo is based on disrupting balance and utilizing momentum. So you were apparently already missing the point. (2) Men bow with their hands on the side. Women bow with hands in front. (3) Missed the leaping arm by inches? Com'n dude, you weren't even close.
wwwYMMAAcom 1 year ago
Lol, ippawn XD
Dude got ippwned, that's for sure :p
DarkJabberwocky 1 year ago
haha "missed it by inches" more like feet
Wolfin44 1 year ago
that tai otoshi at the end was fucking gorgeous
with technique & timing like that, it feels like the guy is jumping for you
studyeye 1 year ago
The judo guy is like totally stable no matter how much the guy in blue is pushing.
forextons 1 year ago
wow I thought he was going to tape his dick to the side of leg next. >.>
MrDistantFuture 1 year ago
lol almost had choke haha
eogh 1 year ago
it is a myth judo is not coming from battlefield this is fairy tales...im sorry
KAMAERUE 1 year ago
@KAMAERUE If I Recall my history correctly, it was created by a Mr. G Kano (hope that's the correct way round sure Trad. Japanese names should have the surname first) who wanted to do Jujtisu... but due to his height, he wasn' t really taken seriously. He found the best JJ school by following the trail of broken bones and chatting to doctors.
Judo was derived from Jujitsu, which was most certainly used on the battlefield (look at ancient Japanese silk paintings).
scopeophile 1 year ago
Ohkawa literally beat him three times! One Ippon means it's over.
TheOddOne100 1 year ago
dude in the blue is so wack. I can't believe he went into this match thinking he had a chance. The nerve of him smh
face2facechick 1 year ago
hahaha " i have more technique and speed than him "
ahhaha
sh1zlEE 1 year ago
okawa was going at 10% if that, silly americans.
a13467 1 year ago
Jason trains nogi. He was out of his element.
homersimps1 1 year ago
The American has really bad posture, he leans in to take hold of the guy rather than moving his whole body in to keep his posture.
ketsan 1 year ago
i love the way he calls him "hollywood" lol he puts a gum shield in then the baldy goes "good match hollywood" haha what a pussy
MrBillysmith94 1 year ago
Definitely not a chance in front of Okawa!
aherrns 1 year ago
I don't know what these guys expect. They are sparring agains black belts in their own martial arts. Why do they not ask to spar green belts, or even orange belts, for sport, (not lethal competition) to see the identity of the art. The blacks have big egos to protect......of course they're not going to take it easy on these TV guys. come on.
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spirospirospiro 1 year ago
@freespadersuggs He took it easy, thats how much of a difference in ability there was.
zosozeppelin09 1 year ago
@freespadersuggs That's the point of these things. These guys want to show us how hard it is to be a true master and to show respect for the art. They could just have the football player go and wreck some scrub every time if they wanted to.
happymand 1 year ago 2
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I would hope they expect to learn or have an amazing expierence, if not both.
SuburbanShinobi 1 year ago
okawa could have launched that first guy way earlier...... -___-
wtfasiankid8o8 1 year ago
damn he got owned
SinisterZal 1 year ago
"He is good at ground technique" ..No he really isnt. One of the Gracie's said "The better grappler will dominate against the weaker one" and it 's true,see past episodes where they learn strikes and they go almost toe to toe,because of the strength,but grappling is pure technique
yeee941 1 year ago
haha wut duche, american juijitsu fag, he probably put tape on his dick too
saweet999 1 year ago
haha wut duche, american juijitsu fag, he probably put tape on his dick too
saweet999 1 year ago
@saweet999 haha he put like tape round each finger, only to get thrown straight away haha what a prick
MrBillysmith94 1 year ago
What the fuck is a e-pon i think its a ippon you dick!
MrBillysmith94 1 year ago
He's taping up like he's fighting for the gold medal. The Judoka toyed with him the entire time.
LOL. This guy is such a tool. "He got me with a move I should have seen coming..." This is priceless.
docwolfe77 1 year ago
Is this guy kidding us? I actually think that Okawa was going easy on the guy. This guy's comments are stupidities like: "this guy is like a rock", "I can't move him", "it is easier to move you than him", "Judo is very technical", "I am going to stay out of his comfort zone" bla, bla, bla... This is a joke!
papichulilibanes 1 year ago
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That is what all BJJ students will say.
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That is what all BJJ students will say.
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That is what all BJJ students will say.
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