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  • @mon3cz It's there tust me

  • die bewegungen in der hand müssen staccato gespielt werden

  • Goes to show just how important a naturally resonant acoustic is to making a toaster even remotely successful... but Salford still need to junk this thing and get a proper pipe organ.

  • @EccentricRichard I couldn't disagree with you more. All the organists that have played here have had nothing but good things to say about the organ. Even those that dislike digital organs. Yes of course the accoustics of the building do help, but so what? Even without that, it's a fantastic success in voicing. The diapson chorus on the Great is one of the best I've heard.

  • @EccentricRichard And if you think the Diocese of Salford even has the money to afford to junk this thing and get a real pipe organ (especially in this day and age) then you're very mistaken

  • @zippylad77 - thing is, it still sounds fake. It really would not cost all that much money to secure a suitable redundant organ - God knows they're not exactly in short supply - and rebuild it for the Cathedral. How much did the Makin cost? Won't have been cheap... and it'll only last 30 years, tops. Toasters just don't have the longevity of pipe organs.

  • @EccentricRichard You're entitled to your views, but you're the only person so far to have made such negative comments, and overall I think the organ is very convincing (apart from the strings) The very fact you call it a toaster says more about your attitude to digital organs than anything else. And there is absolutely no need to get a real organ in despite what you or anyone else says. There are just more important financial concerns to worry about than how authentic or not the organ sounds.

  • @zippylad77 - sorry about the 'toaster' bit, a lot of people in the organ community call them that, including a friend of mine who owns the ex-Londonderry Cathedral Makin. I am well aware that a diocese like Salford is going to have a lot of financial obligations. I'd just have thought that providing an organ that will last for many generations without costing a load of money would be at least considered, albeit inevitably not made the highest priority.

  • @EccentricRichard Salford did used to have a 2-manual Compton pipe organ and before they got the Makin, it was discussed whether to spend the money on overhauling the existing one. Although I was just about around at the time, I had no part in the final decision. I do agree that they should have at least kept the pipe organ in situ rather than dismantle it which is what they did do. But what's done is done I guess.

  • @zippylad77 - I was aware of the old organ (I think it was originally a rather small 4-manual Jardine which became a HUGE 2-manual by Compton) and I'd read it was hopelessly compromised, particularly by its position in the building. However, with the Warrington Cavaillé-Coll currently on the market...

  • personally I think a little fast...but im impressed that you could actually keep up the playing. I mean it was an excellent performance, I just perfer it ever so slightly slower. I find too fast and it becomes a blur, too slow and it sounds dreadful because of the bass. Well done though :)

  • @pulvaris Thank you very much! I actually agree with you. In retrospect it was probably a little too fast, but not much I can do about it now. Call it the impetuous nature of my younger days! :-()

  • If I were you I would still be well proud and happy with the performance...yes the tempo was a little fast...but the technicalities were still observed, so it was still played really well. At the end of the day you cant please anyone, neither, really should you try I dont think. Enjoy the music you make and if others dont like it, that is their problem :-)

  • This is a great performance. I always play this with the left hand doubling the right in the chordal (fff) sections - big French organs usually have a great sub octave coupler, and this makes a very big difference to the overall effect of the piece. This is noticable on Cochereau's 1960's Phillips recording of this piece....Devastating!

  • Hello, is there any way you can send me some pics of the organ with the doors closed. I have that organ in a dark walnut stain at my home 4 manuals and I am now considering getting the glass doors enclosure to protect it.... if you have other pics of the stop controls that would be helful as well.

  • @orgatrain Yes I'll do that for you sometime in the week if I can. I'll get my camera out and snap off a couple before the weekend

  • @orgatrain @orgatrain Yes I'll do that for you sometime in the week if I can. I'll get my camera out and snap off a couple before the weekend

  • Fantastic playing! This is a favorite of mine--I love the brisk tempo! You should hear it on handbells sometime.

  • far too fast, was a rather dissapointing video

  • why don't you ask Vierne what he thinks......oh snap...he is dead. :)

  • Hello, Under what I think is the Solo division, what are the little white buttons underneath the drawknobs?

  • They are memory, volume, transposition, pitch, temperament controls etc.

  • An imaginative and fascinating performance of this visionary composer's great work. The fabulous textures come in glorious waves, enough to fill the largest spaces with unforgettable majesty.

    Glenn

  • What edition are you and G Delvalée using? Neither of you play the manual staccatos or manage to observe the dynamic markings (especially crescendos and diminuendos).

    Great tempo & pedalling.

  • Thanks, I used the Durand edition

  • VERY well done! Good use or tonal contrasts - and the tempo used gives life to the piece......compared to some of the dry 'textbook' performances on YT:)

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  • WOW!!! Well done!!!!! a bit fast but beautiful!!!! BRAVO!!!

  • Lustful2 (what a name!), you're welcome to come up and see the organ anytime. Just let me know. As for the pedalling, I would not advise using left foot with the E flat. You could in theory, by crossing feet over, but it seems as if you're making things harder for yourself. Ace4711, thanks for the comments. Yes, I admit it was a bit on the fast side..I just like it at that speed :-P

  • WHOA!!! WELL PLAYED!!

    i have played this piece leisurely and i must say, BIG HANDS is indeed a BONUS to reach the LARGE chords.!!

    i just wonder--if the tempo was a little too fast?? correct me if i am wrong...

    otherwise, the piece was very well played!!! well DONE!!

    CHEERS!!

  • It's not the hands that I find our a problem but rather the repeated triplets in the pedal parts. Maybe I need to change my footing as it's usually the middle e flat where I tend to slip up as I usally pedal that with the left foot. I must come and try out your makin next time I am in Manchester. I also play in a catholic Church in Birmingham . I have a large tracker Organ although it can be heavy touch when everything coupled up. The Widor can be exhausting work lol.

  • Hi, many thanks for your kind comments! You know, playing this with two hands is not a bad thing. The trouble with using one hand is that, you have to play all the chords detached. I just found it easier to use one hand though than try and work out how to split the chords between both hands. But yes, obviously having a good hand-span helps things! Best wishes :-)

  • excellent rendition!! I envy your big hands ! :-) I have to use both my hands to play the chords .... :-(

    Well done and congrats with your youtube debut...

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