I have been looking into baritsu and what do you know ... I found my first demo video and the camerawork is aweful. Next time you document please consider a more appropriate camera angle.
Aunque todas las artes marciales son producto de una evolución y de la mezcla y el contacto permanente con otras artes marciales o deportes de contacto; el Bartitsu fue el primer arte producto de la mezcla de artes orientales y occidentales, 40 años de que el ejército ruso creara el Sambo, 45 años antes de Kajukenbo y 68 años antes de que Bruce Lee creara el Jeet Kune Do.
the only thing still practical about this style now in this age is the scientific strikes, or the knowledge to know where to strike your opponent to do the most damage in the situation your in. while sword fighting is cool, how many people to do you see with a sword, or a cane? the rest are just pieces of better styles combined in an ill attempt to make a better style, but considering it died over a 100 yrs ago shows that it wasnt even that practical then and def not now
I just found this video and I've never heard of it before. I probably wont follow through research on it, as it doesnt really interest me. What pisses me off is these people saying that this is an inferior art to others. Well, you've obviously never been in a fight/life or death situation. More than half of what you've learnt completely goes out the window, all you have is instincts.
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u teach bad stuff and u should be responsible of this , cause people goes out and in a real situation try do do patterns of tecnique without principle , maybe putting in danger they're lifes ... stop it or get professional not inventing something new in the flow of a movie check or ESCRIMA CONCEPTS or EMAS there in ENGLAND
Although books aren't generally the best way to learn a martial art, in the absence of an alternative I find that the two volumes of the Bartitsu compendium are pretty good for self teaching, especially if you have a martial artist friend or two with whom you can safely practise. If you do want to learn Bartitsu, I can recommend them. If you combine the books with lessons in a related martial art (ju-jitsu being the obvious choice) you will probably get on even better.
What he says is true as regards real world self defense a knife will generally be in you before you see it (assuming a skilled attacker) with a sword you are more likely to see it before it is applied.
You said you could do it so burden of proof is on you as are all costs to prove it. Otherwise, what we have here is a major talk without ability to do.
I said no such thing, I said and I quote "a knife will generally be in you before you see it (assuming a skilled attacker) with a sword you are more likely to see it before it is applied."
A sword is an impractical weapon for day to day use. A knife or pistol is going to be far more useful.
You people are retarded, he said a sword is easier to see, but swords have a greater range and are more defensive, he never really said that either one is easier than the other, he has no burden of proof, the fact that he is willing to joke with you about it is a testament to his being a gentleman.
Just a tip, when you use the word "it's"... It's, short for it is. So when you say "camera-on-it's-side", say camera-on-its-side so it's not camera-on-it is-side. :P
As much as we admire Bruce Lee, I believe Edward Barton-Wright is the true father of mix martial arts, for he was the first person to blend Asian and European martial arts.
@6arcsn1sky I would agree... Bruce Lee did much to further western appreciation of oriental martial arts but Barton-Wright was truly the original pioneers.
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Oh, really? 'cause I've always thought it was the combined efforts of the Gracie family... but then again all they did was develop the most practical compendium of techniques for no-holds-barred competitions and created the most famous MMA venue in the world today. What do I know.
Have fun with your pussy martial art. More like partial art. But it doesn't even look that cool... so the art is out the door too... well, I guess I'll just resolve to saying "enjoy your gay-looking stick fighting."
@JediMasterMostoufi Wow, a mixed-martial arts fan who thinks this style is lame. If I were you, I wouldn't be too quick to judge anything based on methods and training. What the Gracies' did for MMA was sport while Barton-Wright and Lee blended Eastern and Western styles that can be used as dirty tactics in the streets.
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@6arcsn1sky their endeavors were, are for sport, but I feel I shouldn't even have to respond to your implication that Bartitsu is better for street-fighting. That's just riduclous.The real meat and potatoes of a martial art is the discipline's ability to provide a REALISTIC training environment... in other words, training at 100% resistance. BJJ does this. Bartitsu does not.
If you want to learn how to fight with a stick (couldn't imagine why you would) look up FMA's. They actually work.
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@6arcsn1sky I'm acting like it's better because it is better.
That is totally not the penultimate truth of martial arts. No matter how talented an athlete is, if he's learning an inferior and flawed style his talent will get him nowhere.
What martial art you train is of paramount importance. Then after that, it's the fighter. Watch the Gracie Challenge videos/UFC 1-4 and go take a fucking BJJ class. If that doesn't get your head on straight then you just are a lost cause.
@JediMasterMostoufi Laughable to call me "a lost cost." Besides, those Gracies in UFC's early years were lucrative acting like their fighting style is better than others though I don't see any jujutsu fundamentals.
@fireyhope Well, he did tried to promote his art, but his fees was what made it dormant for a hundred years. But still, Barton-Wright should deserve credit to be the first martial artist to blend in European and Asian styles.
@6arcsn1sky blending arts the way mma ppl do it is shallow and stupid as the only plactice how to make their movments look like they are mauy thai or boxing but in actuallity only a small percentage of pros and amatures noe how to fight wiht style trasition. MMA uses superior athleticism rather superior skill or concepts adaptation. bruce lee was more about understanding concepts rather than.
@6arcsn1sky look like he's boxing or fencing. and barton era boxing was very well developed since during the pre MoQ rule era and before the erra of gloves boxing was much more technical than its modern predacessor which wouldnt have stood a chance in the bare kuckle world and each fighter has his own theme and style
@6arcsn1sky they used hammer fists. back fists. and fore arm blocks. and they rarely hit head since there was a 90% chance ur hand would break, and figthers didnt want their oppenents to go out painlessly in a flash. they hit thighs and scoops groins with a fistic palm strike. and they favored teh solar pelxus since it caused the most dammge and pain. hook were only for close range.
@6arcsn1sky barton only brought back lock and throws from jujitsu becasuse the europeans having industrialised armys had no need to teach them the grappling methods of old popular up till the baroque period. but with the decline popularity of carrying weapons in public as well as the fact of growing urban enviroments the need for empty hand fighting required guys them barton to reintroduce techniuqe from another art that the Euro's had but lost
@6arcsn1sky Omg i complete for got i comment on ur top comment. wussup. in response to u last comment. I still dont quite get it. what am isuppose to not elaborate too much on? also i think that father of mma is just marketing. since MMA has become a style in it of it self due to the nature of the sport permitting only few options to make an effective fighter(bjj, muay thai and strangely semi effective boxing.)
@6arcsn1sky cant tell what tone ur using u just sound passive agressive
i dont see y not. i meant i didnt come back to this video intending to relpy to u. i dont understand what ive said to make this conversations so semi-tense
Whether Bartitsu is real or fiction,whehter the teaching we found today is lineage or not,personally,I don't give a damn about any of it...remember it's self defense we are talking about here...to me, bartitsu was(is) just a label , just like any other system ,the name or the origin itself is pointless to me,all I care is whether the techniques r practical or not.
I merely absorbing what is useful,discarding what is useless & simply utilize the most practical solution in a particular situation
I always think that labeling and categorizing things is to put limitation around themselve ,and this'll halt the process of evolution..
Evolution needs constant changing...if people are to bounded by the limitation of the 'origins' ,there won't be JKD ,and definately there won't be MMA as we see today..
I prefer to see myself as just a 'human being' and I'm learning 'Martial Arts' regardless of the origins...
You are a fool, without absorbing a style in its intended context and with its intended philosophy, you will never get to the point where you can use it unconsciously in a particular situation.
Either that, or you are as mighty as O-sensei in which case I would like you to open up a dojo so I can learn your amazing new style..\
there are many bartitsu instructors around now--however, there is no real bartitsu, the guy is just giving his impression of his background---bartitsu died with wright
The best training manual I found so far is Cunningham's "The Cane as a Weapon." True, Bartitsu encompasses many more traditions than just the use of the cane.
I have to ask, as there are NO lineage Bartitsu instructors; What are your qualifications to teach Bartitsu? Are you Ranked in Ju-Jitsu? Savate? Pugilism? There are a whole lot of unqualified people out there claiming they teach Bartitsu. Any thing that Does not appear in Print (Pearsons, Health and Strength etc.) is pure SPECULATION.
Long time ago I gave up on the idea that Bartitsu was real and until a couple of minutes ago I was convinced that Sir Arthur Conan Doyle simply made it up. :)
I wish I'd thought to do that. Laying on my side was quite uncomfortable!
oldigger 2 weeks ago
Did anyone else hold their laptop on its side to watch this?
blackcat852 1 month ago
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kaindrg 2 months ago
first, second, third, I don't see why that is so important... what counts is the quality of understanding and ability to execute effectively.
WuStyleUK 4 months ago
The fool who was manning the camera kept me from watching past the 2 minute mark.
What a true idiot.
Along with the fool that uploaded this.
And it's a shame because it seems the guy was giving good instructions in the video.
But only a retard will watch a video with his head tilted at a 90 degree angle.
I really can't believe that someone would just plop down a video camera on its side.
Idiot.
vassephardi 5 months ago
if u dont take the knife away ur dead man
frankcastellanos 7 months ago
I have been looking into baritsu and what do you know ... I found my first demo video and the camerawork is aweful. Next time you document please consider a more appropriate camera angle.
bushin64 9 months ago
Aunque todas las artes marciales son producto de una evolución y de la mezcla y el contacto permanente con otras artes marciales o deportes de contacto; el Bartitsu fue el primer arte producto de la mezcla de artes orientales y occidentales, 40 años de que el ejército ruso creara el Sambo, 45 años antes de Kajukenbo y 68 años antes de que Bruce Lee creara el Jeet Kune Do.
rbrtdornel 10 months ago
you just had to put the camera down. sideways nonetheless?
petdog12 11 months ago 2
we have to realise it was the ivention of the musket and the gun that created the break in western martial arts
Which is why we need these scholars to resurrect the past
For me that is what Edward Barton Wright was doing
NewZealfighter 1 year ago 3
the only thing still practical about this style now in this age is the scientific strikes, or the knowledge to know where to strike your opponent to do the most damage in the situation your in. while sword fighting is cool, how many people to do you see with a sword, or a cane? the rest are just pieces of better styles combined in an ill attempt to make a better style, but considering it died over a 100 yrs ago shows that it wasnt even that practical then and def not now
jokerboy1814 1 year ago
I just found this video and I've never heard of it before. I probably wont follow through research on it, as it doesnt really interest me. What pisses me off is these people saying that this is an inferior art to others. Well, you've obviously never been in a fight/life or death situation. More than half of what you've learnt completely goes out the window, all you have is instincts.
KillSwitch66627 1 year ago
This guy is totally off the wall at 1:03 mins
l2a3sterling 1 year ago
The instructor has the wrong accent - sorry.
gustard33 1 year ago
Are there going to be any more videos of this? Thanks.
Ronnock 1 year ago
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LMAO out of shape undertrained martial arts wanna bes lol
lagook 1 year ago
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@lagook thank you for saying it. this shit is a joke.
JediMasterMostoufi 1 year ago
why on earth would this be filmed sideways?
slapmagnit 1 year ago
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GAY!!! That's why it's a dead martial art and jujutsu is not.
jlayton1985 1 year ago
@jlayton1985 Very lame opinion. What matters is the fighter not the style.
6arcsn1sky 1 year ago
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u teach bad stuff and u should be responsible of this , cause people goes out and in a real situation try do do patterns of tecnique without principle , maybe putting in danger they're lifes ... stop it or get professional not inventing something new in the flow of a movie check or ESCRIMA CONCEPTS or EMAS there in ENGLAND
natharaja 1 year ago
@natharaja
Much of ESCRIMA comes from european Spanish fencing.After all the word ESCRIMA is Spanish and Italian for fencing.
NewZealfighter 1 year ago 4
I don't think Bartitsu is taught near me, and I live in England where the art came from.
Sack the cameraman for drinking on the job and slap him / her just for the fun of it. Actually, give them two slaps.
zBloodD3monz 1 year ago
@zBloodD3monz
Although books aren't generally the best way to learn a martial art, in the absence of an alternative I find that the two volumes of the Bartitsu compendium are pretty good for self teaching, especially if you have a martial artist friend or two with whom you can safely practise. If you do want to learn Bartitsu, I can recommend them. If you combine the books with lessons in a related martial art (ju-jitsu being the obvious choice) you will probably get on even better.
ZZvonSchnerk 1 year ago
Good work. Shame about the tilted camera though!
labeteduschola 2 years ago
This makes me want to have a gun.
MrPisster 2 years ago
Who is the instructor and where is this training taking place? To me, the gentleman is quite experienced with martial arts and well versed.
Nice visual effects, though I don't see the point. Had to tern my laptop sideways to appreciate fully.
bobashkin 2 years ago
@bobashkin
It looks like this is Academie Duello in Vancouver...
deafwolf 2 years ago
You can get inside a sword easily--really, I will take that bet with you. What say we set that up and film it?
christopheclugston 2 years ago
What he says is true as regards real world self defense a knife will generally be in you before you see it (assuming a skilled attacker) with a sword you are more likely to see it before it is applied.
aikighost 2 years ago
So you are ready to take the sword challenge when?
christopheclugston 2 years ago
Can I bring my pistol? :D
aikighost 2 years ago
You said it was easy. Time to show it.
christopheclugston 2 years ago
Ok then middle of a crowded pub in London ok for you?
aikighost 2 years ago
YOu said you could handle it--so here in the jungle of Thailand. Waiting on you.
christopheclugston 2 years ago
Ok pay my flight and Ill see you there lol.
aikighost 2 years ago
You said you could do it so burden of proof is on you as are all costs to prove it. Otherwise, what we have here is a major talk without ability to do.
christopheclugston 2 years ago
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I said no such thing, I said and I quote "a knife will generally be in you before you see it (assuming a skilled attacker) with a sword you are more likely to see it before it is applied."
A sword is an impractical weapon for day to day use. A knife or pistol is going to be far more useful.
aikighost 2 years ago
You people are retarded, he said a sword is easier to see, but swords have a greater range and are more defensive, he never really said that either one is easier than the other, he has no burden of proof, the fact that he is willing to joke with you about it is a testament to his being a gentleman.
Empireian 2 years ago
Wow. Sorry, but that camera-on-it's-side stuff made this a torment to watch.
Coridimus 2 years ago 32
Just a tip, when you use the word "it's"... It's, short for it is. So when you say "camera-on-it's-side", say camera-on-its-side so it's not camera-on-it is-side. :P
I used to do the same all the time.
Trenasist 2 years ago
Yay! score one for literacy! I agree w/you completely.
nuf sed (woops!)
70076NUD 2 years ago
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Just lay on your right side while viewing.
l2a3sterling 1 year ago
As much as we admire Bruce Lee, I believe Edward Barton-Wright is the true father of mix martial arts, for he was the first person to blend Asian and European martial arts.
6arcsn1sky 2 years ago 17
@6arcsn1sky I would agree... Bruce Lee did much to further western appreciation of oriental martial arts but Barton-Wright was truly the original pioneers.
bknives 2 years ago 2
True since Barton-Wright was ahead on the idea of mix martial arts.
6arcsn1sky 2 years ago
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Oh, really? 'cause I've always thought it was the combined efforts of the Gracie family... but then again all they did was develop the most practical compendium of techniques for no-holds-barred competitions and created the most famous MMA venue in the world today. What do I know.
Have fun with your pussy martial art. More like partial art. But it doesn't even look that cool... so the art is out the door too... well, I guess I'll just resolve to saying "enjoy your gay-looking stick fighting."
JediMasterMostoufi 1 year ago
@JediMasterMostoufi Wow, a mixed-martial arts fan who thinks this style is lame. If I were you, I wouldn't be too quick to judge anything based on methods and training. What the Gracies' did for MMA was sport while Barton-Wright and Lee blended Eastern and Western styles that can be used as dirty tactics in the streets.
6arcsn1sky 1 year ago
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@6arcsn1sky their endeavors were, are for sport, but I feel I shouldn't even have to respond to your implication that Bartitsu is better for street-fighting. That's just riduclous.The real meat and potatoes of a martial art is the discipline's ability to provide a REALISTIC training environment... in other words, training at 100% resistance. BJJ does this. Bartitsu does not.
If you want to learn how to fight with a stick (couldn't imagine why you would) look up FMA's. They actually work.
JediMasterMostoufi 1 year ago
@JediMasterMostoufi Again, acting like one style is better than the other. What truly matters most is the fighter themselves, not their styles.
6arcsn1sky 1 year ago 2
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@6arcsn1sky I'm acting like it's better because it is better.
That is totally not the penultimate truth of martial arts. No matter how talented an athlete is, if he's learning an inferior and flawed style his talent will get him nowhere.
What martial art you train is of paramount importance. Then after that, it's the fighter. Watch the Gracie Challenge videos/UFC 1-4 and go take a fucking BJJ class. If that doesn't get your head on straight then you just are a lost cause.
JediMasterMostoufi 1 year ago
@JediMasterMostoufi Laughable to call me "a lost cost." Besides, those Gracies in UFC's early years were lucrative acting like their fighting style is better than others though I don't see any jujutsu fundamentals.
6arcsn1sky 1 year ago
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@6arcsn1sky
Whit eyebrow gung fu is much more realistic than this.
l2a3sterling 1 year ago
@l2a3sterling Fighting styles doesn't matter, but the fighter themselves.
6arcsn1sky 1 year ago 3
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@6arcsn1sky
I was just kidding around.
l2a3sterling 1 year ago
@6arcsn1sky impossible, since Bartitsu almost became a lost art he can't be a FATHER of something unless he popularized it.
fireyhope 1 year ago
@fireyhope Well, he did tried to promote his art, but his fees was what made it dormant for a hundred years. But still, Barton-Wright should deserve credit to be the first martial artist to blend in European and Asian styles.
6arcsn1sky 1 year ago 2
@6arcsn1sky blending arts the way mma ppl do it is shallow and stupid as the only plactice how to make their movments look like they are mauy thai or boxing but in actuallity only a small percentage of pros and amatures noe how to fight wiht style trasition. MMA uses superior athleticism rather superior skill or concepts adaptation. bruce lee was more about understanding concepts rather than.
kaindrg 1 year ago
@6arcsn1sky look like he's boxing or fencing. and barton era boxing was very well developed since during the pre MoQ rule era and before the erra of gloves boxing was much more technical than its modern predacessor which wouldnt have stood a chance in the bare kuckle world and each fighter has his own theme and style
kaindrg 1 year ago
@6arcsn1sky they used hammer fists. back fists. and fore arm blocks. and they rarely hit head since there was a 90% chance ur hand would break, and figthers didnt want their oppenents to go out painlessly in a flash. they hit thighs and scoops groins with a fistic palm strike. and they favored teh solar pelxus since it caused the most dammge and pain. hook were only for close range.
kaindrg 1 year ago
@6arcsn1sky barton only brought back lock and throws from jujitsu becasuse the europeans having industrialised armys had no need to teach them the grappling methods of old popular up till the baroque period. but with the decline popularity of carrying weapons in public as well as the fact of growing urban enviroments the need for empty hand fighting required guys them barton to reintroduce techniuqe from another art that the Euro's had but lost
kaindrg 1 year ago
@kaindrg Nice detail, but you're just giving out way too much.
6arcsn1sky 1 year ago
@6arcsn1sky u mean im saying too much
kaindrg 1 year ago
@kaindrg Exactly.
6arcsn1sky 1 year ago
@6arcsn1sky Omg i complete for got i comment on ur top comment. wussup. in response to u last comment. I still dont quite get it. what am isuppose to not elaborate too much on? also i think that father of mma is just marketing. since MMA has become a style in it of it self due to the nature of the sport permitting only few options to make an effective fighter(bjj, muay thai and strangely semi effective boxing.)
kaindrg 2 months ago
@kaindrg Why bother responding late, and why do you need to be wordy?
6arcsn1sky 2 months ago
@6arcsn1sky idk
kaindrg 2 months ago
@6arcsn1sky i did intead to respond but i stumble back on to this vid and recognized ur sn
kaindrg 2 months ago
@kaindrg Well, your reply doesn't mean to respond to me back now since my reply was ten months old.
6arcsn1sky 2 months ago
@6arcsn1sky lol
kaindrg 2 months ago
@kaindrg And it's not funny either.
6arcsn1sky 2 months ago
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@6arcsn1sky cant tell what tone ur using u just sound passive agressive
i dont see y not. i meant i didnt come back to this video intending to relpy to u. i dont understand what ive said to make this conversations so semi-tense
kaindrg 2 months ago
@kaindrg First of all, why bother replying back if ten months passed. I don't see the point into carrying on this conversation.
6arcsn1sky 2 months ago
Documentary preview: "Bartitsu - the Lost Martial Art of Sherlock Holmes"
Check it out on youtube
Bartitsu Society
ranarthurbraun 2 years ago
Whether Bartitsu is real or fiction,whehter the teaching we found today is lineage or not,personally,I don't give a damn about any of it...remember it's self defense we are talking about here...to me, bartitsu was(is) just a label , just like any other system ,the name or the origin itself is pointless to me,all I care is whether the techniques r practical or not.
I merely absorbing what is useful,discarding what is useless & simply utilize the most practical solution in a particular situation
SnakeSam1234 2 years ago
You have single-handedly negated the eloquence of the works of Shakespeare. Good job.
auitane 2 years ago
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@auitane
I always think that labeling and categorizing things is to put limitation around themselve ,and this'll halt the process of evolution..
Evolution needs constant changing...if people are to bounded by the limitation of the 'origins' ,there won't be JKD ,and definately there won't be MMA as we see today..
I prefer to see myself as just a 'human being' and I'm learning 'Martial Arts' regardless of the origins...
But then again,that's my TAO of living
SnakeSam1234 2 years ago
You are a fool, without absorbing a style in its intended context and with its intended philosophy, you will never get to the point where you can use it unconsciously in a particular situation.
Either that, or you are as mighty as O-sensei in which case I would like you to open up a dojo so I can learn your amazing new style..\
Empireian 2 years ago
Bad decision to tilt the camera. Otherwise, an informative video.
JoelCold 2 years ago
there are many bartitsu instructors around now--however, there is no real bartitsu, the guy is just giving his impression of his background---bartitsu died with wright
cqcgrasso 2 years ago
The best training manual I found so far is Cunningham's "The Cane as a Weapon." True, Bartitsu encompasses many more traditions than just the use of the cane.
DamazViccar 2 years ago
@DamazViccar Read the version editied and expaned by Tony Wolf. He did a great job with it.
mightydagon 2 years ago
@mightydagon
I certainly will look into that. Thank you!
DamazViccar 2 years ago
I have to ask, as there are NO lineage Bartitsu instructors; What are your qualifications to teach Bartitsu? Are you Ranked in Ju-Jitsu? Savate? Pugilism? There are a whole lot of unqualified people out there claiming they teach Bartitsu. Any thing that Does not appear in Print (Pearsons, Health and Strength etc.) is pure SPECULATION.
chiliepeppa 2 years ago
Long time ago I gave up on the idea that Bartitsu was real and until a couple of minutes ago I was convinced that Sir Arthur Conan Doyle simply made it up. :)
Lillymill 2 years ago
Nice video, just wish it wasn't sideways! :D
Highlander1911 2 years ago