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  • beautiful. at 4:44 it looks like a tabled swe shift.

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  • @pokermanAAKK You're asking to learn million dollar moves...what are you willing to pay because you can't get million dollar moves for a couple of hundred dollars.

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  • Great moves ...pure skill

  • And in one full swoop, Buddyvision2010, UnknownMagician93, and MegaMagicExpert have proven to have no class whatsoever. Congratulations.

  • You don't have a clue to what the fuck you're talking about; knowing company. So you're going to tell me that people who never saw cheating moves or a cold deck switch in their life automatically become knowledgeable about stuff like this because they play for a lot of money. You're as stupid as the day is long. Oh one more thing, you cleverly dodged my challenge about if you being better than me than prove it. Why?

  • not a single bit of this would fly in anything like attentive company.

  • @Buddyvision2010

    Well it does fly in games I'd bet my life on it that you're not better than me at doing it. As a matte of fact who in the hell are you anyway to judge me when I was at the table with the best in the country. Steve Forte is the one who passed me the deck. Sal Piacente is the one who took the footage and Rod The Hop is the one talking. Do a google search and see who these guys are. If the best in the country loved it, I definitely don't need your approval.

  • @Houdini149

    not offering aproval you fucking dickhead. i am fully aware who those guys are.

    but you are card guys umming and ahhing over some deck switches. in anything like knowing company if those type of suspicious movements were made, the players would think ' i don't know what happened but some did just happen'.

    pretty for a video or a gambling demo, but unless you are playing cards with idiots, not applicable in real life.

  • @Buddyvision2010 You don't have a clue to what the fuck you're talking about; knowing company. So you're going to tell me that people who never saw cheating moves or a cold deck switch in their life automatically become knowledgeable about stuff like this because they play for a lot of money. You're as stupid as the day is long. Oh one more thing, you cleverly dodged my challenge about if you being better than me than prove it. Why?

  • @Houdini149

    i said that people would think ' i don't know what happened but some did just happen'. which is true. nothing stupid about that. secondly i didnt dodge anything, when did you challenge me?

    and we have to consider this. if that is you in the video, if you are this notorious card hustler, it would surprise me that you have the time to have silly rows on youtube. and it surprises me more that you get angry when i suggest that it wouldnt fly.

  • @Buddyvision2010 nigga shut the fuck up. It doesn't matter what you think. These aren't just "card guys ahhing", you're talking about the best in the world. Guys who've made a LIVING off of swindiling faggots like you who think they are knowledgable and above getting hustled. I'd be surprised if you ever bet a dime in your life on cards. Critisizing doc... Come on man you got nothing on him.

  • @UnknownMagician93 'nigga shut the fuck up'?

    why are you talking like you a drug dealer from the ghetto? please dont use language that you wouldn't use in front of your mother, as we wouldn't you getting grounded now would we.

    i'm saying, perfectly reasonably, that from a card manipulator's point of view it is wonderful. then show this video to anyone who plays poker at any competitive level and then hear the reaction.

    and enough of the silly insults. go to a tupac page for that.

  • @Buddyvision2010 Are you now claiming to be some knowledgeable person who plays poker at a competitive level? Sure go show this to a person at the WSOP and it'l look weird cause people at the WSOP DONT HANDLE THE FUCKING DECK! You're thinking like he plans to do this in a casno or some shit. These techniques are for the types of games that he plays in, "back room", high stakes, life on the line, cheat or don't eat.

  • @UnknownMagician93

    says who?

  • @UnknownMagician93

    also, you can play cards at a competitive level without being in a casino or in the 'high stakes, life on the line, cheat or don't eat' type scenario that you've heard described in a hip-hop song playing from your expensive sound system in your suburban semi-detatched house. certainly in england there are poker schools existing up and down the country where you can sit with friends or collegues or other enthusiasts and play for sizable amounts of money.

  • @Buddyvision2010 I'm not talking about what you CAN do, I'm talking about the types of games Doc DOES play in. Your argument is invalid because I came at you because of your comments about Doc, not about what types of game styles one can play.

  • @UnknownMagician93 not invalid, it could be considered erroneous maybe, if not viewed in context. the point that i was trying to make was that you are taking a lot of what is said at face value. how do you know that 'doc DOES play in' these types of games? because he told you?

    also, ask yourself this. would any of it work on you? if you were sat down playing for your hard earned cash and that kind of handling took place, would you be convinced?

  • @Buddyvision2010 Your first question- I've been following Doc's postings on a website for about a year and a half now, and judging by his posts and also the video footage he puts out, I'm 99.999999999% sure he actually does what he claims to do.

    2nd question- The answer is completely in what context the move is viewed. If i sat at a table with Doc, and saw him cut cards in a way I'd never seen before I might be like "??", but if he did it continually throughout the night, I would have

  • @UnknownMagician93 no reason to question him,because i would take it as his personal way of cutting the deck, his mannerisms. Now if he cut the deck like every other guy at the table, then all of the sudden broke out the deck switch from the sting, I'd call him out. It's all about uniformity of action.

  • @UnknownMagician93 i didnt realise you had information that i didn't. if you could send me a link to the website so i can look for myself. and you have to ask yourself: is that really what hustlers who are risking life and limb cheating people out of their cash do? ie. have a strong internet presence? hardly fits in with the 'life on the line, cheat or dont eat' scenario does it?

  • @UnknownMagician93 and for the second question i will suggest to you this: i've been playing draw on and off, at a modestly competitive level for over 15 years now, and in every game, without exception, there is a cutting procedure that has to be followed, even if you are playing with your family or close friends. the moves above would not be tolerated.

    don't get me wrong, i think hes great, and this video has been a favourite for a long time.

  • @UnknownMagician93 Reading through your conversation with buddyvision, I have come to the following conclusions -

    1. Buddyvision is right, you are wrong

    2. I'm better than you.

    3. You know that I'm better than you.

    4. You can never be as good as me.

    Face the facts buddy, you're hopeless.

  • @MegaMagicExpert Who the hell are you? When did hopping into a conversation and sucking a dick to gain props become cool? you're trash. Face the facts.

  • @Houdini149 You need to be at the table with the best in the world dickhead. Me.

  • That was smoother than butter O.O

    Amazing handling good sir...I wish you could tutor me XD

  • Wow  ......

  • I can't answer all of you who wrote me but thank you for stopping by.

    To the rest of you Steve Forte lovers, in my cold deck expose it is Steve Forte who is talking (besides Sal Paciente and Rod the Hop) and who is passing me the deck to switch; and as you can hear he says that all of them are great.

  • Excellent.

    Dai Vernon details his search in the 1920's for the only man who could center deal.

    The Magician and the Cardsharp.

  • Great job. I love it!

  • You are just extraordinary - and very humble, which is the mark of the greatest, by the way...

    If anyone criticizes you, he obviously does not know the Work.

    A true and absolute Master. Thank you very much for sharing this treasure.

  • Hey Doc!! It's been quite a few years since I chatted with you. Steve Upisleeve here. I used to talk with you on one of the forums about 5, 6 years ago? Hey are you still down with our Lord, or what? Me, I'm still slogging it out in the local music world, waiting for the inevitable arrival if you know what I mean. You still dressing to kill, or what? Hope to hear from you my brother in Christ.

  • Very nice, but you're no Steve Forte.

  • @liberalguy513 Actually, he knows Forte & Steve's gotten together with him on more than one occasion to witness this guy & some of his moves. In my opinion he's every bit as good as Forte or better. -Steve Upisleeve

  • @Kazyman at cards or dice?

  • @kcg5000 cNc. I still have the pics you sent me (somewhere) You all dressed to kill. Tha'ts before I move from San Diego. How've ya been, man? Still walkin with our Lord? Hope so.

  • great performer

  • Most of the moves in the first two minutes would result in broken fingers in most games around here, even low stakes. Especially holding the deck and money at the same time. The dice moves were very cool though.

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  • @UnknownMagician93 you can hear him say if the table is on a hard surfase where you slide the cards off the table... so some of the switches would could easily pass in a game where the buys are 20 dollars and the table is shit.

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  • This guy may not be as well known as the more famous magicians/card handlers but he is none the less an expert.

  • @1877wf

    i do consider him a bigger expert then some of the so called "experts".

  • @Michielos23 Definitly, most of the so called experts, even respected ones are more entertainers than anything else, i read an interview with steve forte talking about how casino protection consultants will go in and put on a show, but show nothing thats relevant to gambling protection.

  • @TheBradTobin

    Like Erdnase said it in his book (about gambling exposes): "If

    terrific denunciation of erstwhile associates, and a diatribe on the awful

    consequences of gambling are a criterion of ability, these purified prodigals

    must have been very dangerous companions at the card table"

    @ Doc: talk to ya on thecafe and hope you do good!

  • good morning doc i enjoyed your videos, i would like to get in touch with you. i have questions about dice, could you please email me at (johnniesmith123@yahoo.com).

  • hey doc can you do any consulting

  • you are a fucking artist.....

  • please do stevens cull

  • You're a goddamn artist Doc. Beautiful work.

  • i cannot figure out for the life of me how you do a certain shift. It's completely amazing. A real inspiration

  • The pass is absolutely fabulous and noiseless would fly in any card game....Doc you are fantastic shoot me a comment when your back off the hustle i would like to chat...

  • My god!

    How and where did you meet these hustlers and how did you get them to teach you?

  • My God! These are the best methods a have ever seen... Here we have a true professional expert not a "would be" gambler... My compliments!

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  • Everyone who've complimented my videos I humbly thank you from the bottom of my heart: and for those who didn't, everyone has the right to their opinion.

    I started out studying Erdnase but Scarne said in his book seek out the magicians for help so I did and with their help I advanced Erdnase moves eventually making up my own inwhich you now see in this video besides the many hustlers I met in my travels across the country.

    Thanks again for the compliments.

    Respectfully

    Doc

  • A moder Erdnase this guy is! Amazing pass @ 5:30

  • this guy is amazing!

  • When you are switching the deck with a bunch of dollars in your hand it is obvious.

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  • When you are commenting about things you don't understand, it is obvious.

  • What the fuck are you talking about?

  • Playing REAL poker, it's very likely you'd have money in your hand,

  • Your videos aren't exactly...impressive are they.

  • Since when did I say my videos were impressive? If you'd be playing poker lets say in a bar and you'd hold a bunch of dollars in your hand and doing this... The others would be stupid if they wouldn't be suspicious. I was just pointing out that this would not be an useful sleight.

  • The kind of places where hustling takes place, aren't your average bar. It is perfectly plausible that cash would be in hand because often chips aren't used.

    These deck switches are some of the best I've seen for a long time, from somebody who is clearly a true card mechanic.

  • I wasn't saying he was bad at it... -.-

  • you obviously dont know what the fuck your talking about.

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  • Again wtf?

  • I'm not qualified to judge any of your deck switches. Never the less, I found this to be a remarkable video.

  • steve forte my ass!

  • Awesome - especially the cold deck switches!

    I did find it a little hard to understand what was being said at times though.

  • nice cold'deck switches

  • look at mine?

  • It sucks for the people who play against you. If we ever play then you have to use your feet :).

  • Even then...

  • utmost respect. who are you anyway?

  • he is unknown haha

  • You could make some big bucks with a DVD on your work Doc.Really nice.

  • Harlem!! NYC BABY!!

  • I know you are a pro at this, but don't get shot in them streets. Niggas aren't as polite as Casino Pit Bosses.

  • DOC, please put up some of your monte work again. Also, how about some dice switches and infinity pass too? Thanks

  • It's amazing how someone can make a simple action of passing the cards for the cut look pretty. Not hard to tell who that guy is!

  • shit man!! you have fat fingers and an ugly hand!! but you still the best i ever seen!

  • you should release a DVD!

  • good stuff .....sub

    post more vids

  • awesome!!

  • wow you could be one of the best at controlling cards who are you?? adz;)

  • Who is this guy?

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  • Where did you learn all of your moves from?

  • Hopefully you don't mind me asking, but what type of bottom deal are you using at 2:55. It appears to be a variation of a strike deal, but it's so smooth that it would have completely flown by me if I didn't know what you were going to do. Does this particular deal have a name?

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  • what is he doing at 5:11 ish i cant figure it out

  • he is doing the infintity pass, his invention

  • Oh ic well that pass is rediculess ...

  • He told that he came up with it by himself, but is already known as the Thompson Pass.

  • Is he selling something .. cuz i think he said Something liek my device Can Switch cards and stuff

  • one dude said steve forte sucks compared to doc but steve forte is making money and doc well he is still a 2nd rate magician.

  • doc is making money too

  • Wow! I can't believe it's not butter...

  • Amazing work,WOW.

  • Amazing work. It takes a lot of dedicated hours of practice do what you do. 

    I've been following your posts + videos ever since you appeared on the Cafe.

    I hope to achieve 1% of the things you can do.

    Thank you for sharing D.O.C.

  • a great motivation to how good one can be if they devoted themselves to the moves

  • your moves are amazing!

  • Doc...you're amazing. you should make a dvd i would buy it! like...

  • Beautiful deck switch.

  • Doc you should make a video showing your table infamous Infinity Pass

  • You aren't a Doc,You're the Professor very nice work I see what you are talking about on the other site,everyone see the video and No comment.Will I will It very good work.Would like be one of your students

  • nice deck switches.. gj dude

  • Good hand coordination, seems like he's been doing this for many years.

  • Hi again Doc. I can't stop watching this video. You are the Cheat. Incredible.

  • Goddamn! nice work bro.

  • your passes are sooo smooth.

  • doc make a dvd and sell you math

  • what the name of that deck switch

  • Doc, your knowledge and skills continue to impress me. What happened to the videos of your 3 card monte and dice teachers? Would you consider reposting them? Or is there some other way I can get my hands on them? Your humble student, ~Fatty

  • damn, thats smooth. Wonder how much Doc has made off his skillz.

  • btw, are you black or brown?

  • steve forte sucks compared to you

  • Yep thats how to do a roll out !!

  • Doc...Thats nice work...

  • Yo Steve Forte, welcome to the pros...

  • Thats intense wow. And I though Brian Tudor had good control haha.

  • wow those are some smooth moves!!!

    great job man

    i wouldnt want to play cards with you

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