Great for personal who are training, waste of money for airsoft players unless you're a 100% milsim junkie. But like it says PTW, not airsoft toy.
I personally say use simunition in real steel guns rather than spending $2,000 on an airsoft gun, then needing extra mags and so on for them. Just makes sense to train with the weapon you'll use in your actual field use.
I met a guy who has one of these and he spent in total for also his upgrades over 3500 dollars which is all magpuled up. Awesome gun, but waaaaayyyyyy out of the budget.
KWA M4+ KWA USP+ Real AR= Systema PTW M4, so you can get a real gun, and still have an awesome gun to play airsoft with (and a side arm for airsoft to) I know they use this for training, but that's sad.
This gun isn't made for just airsofters it is made for law enforcement training that's why it's called ptw. bbs are cheaper than fake rounds in a real gun anyway so yeah kwa or something else is a better choice but if you have the money to waste why not
@SAMFICOM Have you ever played it? and i dont mean with those shitty wal mart guns, i mean have you gone to a feild and played a game with at least 15+ people and a good qulity aeg?
u can buy a real m4 for the price of that thing that gun is such a rip off i can build off a jg m4 and have a gun 3 times better for a third of the price
Real guns? Try having fun shooting your friends with them.
Also, reason why Airsoft guns, or Professional Training Weapons are so expensive, is because they feature more advanced and expensive technology than real steel guns.
Dont believe me? Ask someone who sells or makes airsoft guns.
it shud feature shells and blowback like u load the bbs into shells then when you shoot the dust cover opens well it always it but then every shot the shell gets thrown out of the gun like a real one
point takin i say i cant shoot my friends with the real thing ill spend the rest of my life in prison ...i still say 1400 dollars is a little steep for a airsoft gun for military training or not there awsome and i wouid love to have one they just cost way to much when i like target shooting with the real thing ill stick to G&G and KWA shomthing in the 3 to 400 dollar range if couid ever get another gun f--king job market
WTF? $1,695? I hate people that say "buy a real gun, airsoft is gay." But for that much you can buy a real AR-15 and have money left over. Fuck that systema shit, I looked on ASGI and it costs $265 for 6 of their magazines (I'm not a retard who thinks ASGI is overpriced, I only buy from ASGI.) That's just ridiculous.
I dont get systema. They sell their PTW M4 for 1300-1500$ give or take( usually give) While real high end M4s without RIS systems are sold for 700-900 at the very most. Systema IS and probibly ALWAYS WILL BE nothing more than a fucking overpriced brand name.
ok seriously anyone who is worried about a gun shooting really hot needs to get the fuck out the only reason the ptw shoots so hot is that it can use extremly heavy bbs and can be felt throught full tactical gear meaning... you get shot you will know
@TheGrahamAker That's not the point. If you know anything about internals you could build a reliable gun shooting that fast for roughly $800. I know because someone I used to play with payed a tech to build him his. Aside from that if you're going to pay that much for an airsoft gun then either you have the money to piss away or your priorities are screwed up.
@FKRairsoft its either spend 800 bucks on a gun then spend another 800 to modify it, or buy a systema with 1.5k which has amazing trigger response and features. I own 4 AEGs, 1 CA 1 G&P 1 TM and 1 systema, compare to the systema, the other 3 does feel like a toy. trust, u will never know untill u owned a systema, it is worth the amount.
@TheGrahamAker Uh, no. It's either spend about $200 on a base gun and then another $500-$700 to modify it to perform and be reliable like a Systema. If you're looking for realism then get a GBBR. Airsoft is a game so I would never spend over $400 on a gun when I can get what I need for $300 or less. Especially when there's more important things I could spend 1500 dollars on.
@TheGrahamAker God you're stupid as hell aren't you? That's probably why you wasted your money on a Systema instead of building a gun since you know nothing about internals. If I was on a budget, I could build a gun shooting about 500 fps with .25's and 30 rps with an 11.1v lipo for under $500 easy. Buy a shitty base gun, maybe a JG for example, take out the crap gearbox and replace everything internally. Done. I'd list the internals if I cared enough about what you thought.
@FKRairsoft this comment alone proves you are the stupid one, not me.
doesnt matter whch AEG you buy, none of the features the bolt catch like systema, none of they is capable of stop firing when out of ammo, none of them has the amazing trigger response like the PTW, you can never achive the feature of "motor completing entire cycle no matter how fast you pull the trigger", I jammed one of my TM PSG1 before cuz I pulled trigger 1st, and building 500 FPS is plain retarded.
@FKRairsoft i actually bought a cylinder to power down so I can go play games. start talking shet when ur gun dont jam after pulling trigger like this. /watch?v=2YdzEkoN5s4 , if financial is an issue for you, then dont play airsoft, same logic apply for everything.
@TheGrahamAker There you go again. Where did I say anywhere that finances were an issue? I said there are more important things to spend 1500 dollars on and then I said I could build a gun shooting as fast as a systema ptw for half the price. And if you want realism get a GBBR and upgrade it to shoot 500+ fps. That would only cost about 400 dollars total. My point, if you have the money to blow on a Systema great, but they're uneccasary.
@TheGrahamAker Nope but I have shot one and made an informed opinion that they're no where near worth $1500. I could get a gun and an entire loadout for that much money. And on top of that when your systema breaks you have to spend alot of money in replacement parts.
@FKRairsoft so you do not own one, then you have no say in this, shot one and owned one is not same.
if the systema is my 1st AEG then you can say that my opinion is subjective, but i owned 3 exclude my pistol and evne include a tokyo marui, but those still felt like a toy.
@TheGrahamAker So you spent damn near $3000+ on airsoft guns? Back to my point, you can get the same performance from building an AEG for alot cheaper and if you want realism get a GBBR.
@TheGrahamAker So you're paying 1500 dollars for the feel of a real gun? VFC and G&P only cost 400 and have beautiful externals. Heck, even a REAL gun costs less than a PTW. Are you paying for realism? Cause a GBBR or KWA's new ERG is far more realistic. Are paying for performance? A KWA sr10 costs 385, and shoots 200+ feet accurately at 1400 rounds a minute. What makes this gun so magical besides the name?
@cheetok1ng470 shoot one, feel the trigger response, feel the smooth shooting, now pick up a G&P, shoot it, and u will feel the motor spining in the grip and feels like gun is falling apart, if you cant pay the right price, dont be jealous and trash talking non realistic stuff to make something looks bad.
@TheGrahamAker I never talked bad about systema. If I was to buy a systema, I just want to know that I'm getting what I'm paying for. Say I DO get a super max - $1600, and along with it systema mags and battery - $300, daniel defense rail-$110, flip up sights - $90, edgi barrel in order to match the accuracy of a kwa - $60. That adds up to $2160, whereas a g&p v5 costs $339. So I'm paying almost two thousand dollars for a slight less vibration in my pistol grip?
@TheGrahamAker so your final argument comes down to "if you don't own a systema you must be in poverty." You cannot come up with anything that shows a systema is worth the $1800 extra (besides"slightly less vibration in the pistol grip"?) Therefore by saying that owning a systema proves that you're wealthy proves my point. You are merely paying for the brand name, not actual quality.
@cheetok1ng470 not to mention real gun shoots real bullet, even if real bullet cant harm people, after few thousand rounds im p sure it costs way more than BBs.
@TheGrahamAker bash a systema and a bushmaster acr against a tree, the systema will break, the bushmaster will not. The acr will take MUCH MUCH more abuse both internally and externally(Higher quality materials). Same goes for a russian arsenal AK, much more durable and less than half the price
@cheetok1ng470 umm im sorry, how is this related to what I said at all? so during a training, instead of shooting, you purposly go smash ur gun on the ground over and over? there might be small coliations during training but im sure PTW can handle that, and if you just love to smash ur gun then idk, either ur mad or retarded.
@TheGrahamAker I'm talking about QUALITY. A systema costs 1600, an arsenal ak is 900. For almost double the price, the externals on a systema are WEAKER therefore LOWER QUALITY. Therefore the systema is NOT WORTH the money.
@cheetok1ng470 so in ur opinion quality= how much hit it can take? wow bro, ur even more retarded than i thought, then a punch bag has better quality than any airsoft guns, go to the game with a punch bag then.
@SH1Ttalk3r50 My $600 Toykyo Marui SOPMOD shoots 280 fps and it is more accurate and has more range then any airsoft gun I've ever had, considering I have a gas blow back HK416 that will shoot up to 560 fps. You're a broken airsoft players if you think fps is everything. And also you're an idiot he was using sniper bbs at 400 fps that's insane.
@SH1Ttalk3r50 ok hes using .43 gram bbs which are sniper bbs and is shooting 400 fps thats ridiculous fps isnt everything that makes a gun and do i really need to point out the difference in quality between echo1 and systema c'mon dude
@SH1Ttalk3r50 You do know echo 1 are re branded jg rifle's which are clones of Tokyo marui,and he's using .43 bbs and it's shooting at 380 that's over 600fps with a standard .20.
@SH1Ttalk3r50 You do know echo 1 are re branded jg rifle's which are clones of Tokyo marui,and he's using .43 bbs and it's shooting at 380 that's over 600fps with a standard .20.
Maruis don't suck lol. They're plain ok. I own a tm mp7 and aside from the low fps its a damn solid gun. I've heard about the mp5s and stuff being junk but mine is amazing and was worth every penny. However you pay for the name as with systema.
@aahumada3915439154 Because Systema PTW's aren't meant for the average, sensible airsofter. You can buy a frickin armory of high-end AEG's for the price of a PTW.
yes systemas are amazingly high quality but seriously? for the price your better off buying a systema gearbox then getting your own externals it will be alot cheaper with the similar quality and more practical for airsoft if you want a cheaper option get a kwa their very high quality for FAR less (300-400$)
holy shit you can get a real ar15 out the door with tax and a 150 dollar scope for 400 dollars less than an airsoft gun and is is fucking awsome and dosent shoot plastic bb's im not saying i hate arsoft guns im just saying 1600 dollars for a fake gun is riddiculus
just hearing the price made it sound like it was shooting at a 1000 fps, but im figuring its not just that..that its the internals in the gun and how it operates..
@fanofCOH actualy yes all the way. you can get a KWA and spend $400 KWA M4s are the best. sytema may be better but isnt worth paying $500 more dollars for few better things. systemas are over priced and over rated
@4everUSNavy while theirs no argument in that discussion i will not lie. it definatly helps having a blistering wall of plastic to ensure a good hit ratio or being able to reach out to 250 feet and still hit a headsize target consistently all the while having the rate of fire of a mini gun.... or the semi automatic response time of a real steel firearm. theirs no comparison between hand tuned pieces of art and stock guns in the end..
@fanofCOH the gun is only as good as the player. no matter how good it it is its still worthless if in the hands of poorly skilled and unexperienced player. if im good at getting in close "grabbing you by the belt" and having a good cooperation from other teammates to distract you and go to your flank. i play with strategy and seems to work great actualy.
Here's your logic: "Oh, gee, I have so much money, I want to buy a Lambo, but hell, I can buy 2 tank engines with the money I have, so I'm gonna go with that!"
@kimmin1208 you are the one acting like a moronic child trying to act as if he is grown even when the subject has been explained to you,you proceed to be an annoyacne to the other person beyond explaination
Why make it so powerful. Its not really safe to use such a powerful gun. I know its super high quality and its worth every single penny but holy hell 390+ with .43gs in an AEG. Id surrender before letting someone shoot me.
I remember seeing these PTWs in the airsoftGI store a couple of years ago. Now that I am finally considering getting one, I can't seem to find them for sale anywhere, whats going on?
No way is kwa near the quality of a systema. I own 3 ptw all of them mil/le and not one problem yet. Aside from a battery wire going loose the system of these guns is worth it.
The arrogance of some people that talk down on the systema's are either to scared to drop the money on them or are kwa trolls. I just sold a sr7 that I had for year and a half. Sold that shot for 200 bucks. Nothing but problems and the help I got from kwa forum was a joke.
I can buy a really nice AR-15 for that price.
paintballers 4 days ago
This is not a gun. :)
SAMFICOM 5 days ago
you can buy almost 3 real ar-15s for the price of one of that...
semicolonxp 1 week ago
1:32 Background: Young CJ Getting his job interview?
SkipperTalks 1 week ago
Great for personal who are training, waste of money for airsoft players unless you're a 100% milsim junkie. But like it says PTW, not airsoft toy.
I personally say use simunition in real steel guns rather than spending $2,000 on an airsoft gun, then needing extra mags and so on for them. Just makes sense to train with the weapon you'll use in your actual field use.
theonlybuster 1 week ago
My ears are ringing and it's been 5 days since I watched this video.
Ekskrementer 1 week ago
what the hell is that noise my ears are dying
CorpralCreamCheeze 2 weeks ago
I met a guy who has one of these and he spent in total for also his upgrades over 3500 dollars which is all magpuled up. Awesome gun, but waaaaayyyyyy out of the budget.
fnfal1000 3 weeks ago
pressing a button makes it the farrari of airsoft guns??:D
Trailblazer1010 3 weeks ago 6
@Trailblazer1010 so true
malo619pr 2 weeks ago
Must be 18 to buy a $1600 airsoft gun < Must be 18 to buy 2 $700 AR-15's
MCArmory 4 weeks ago 4
380 fps with a .43= 2.89 Joules= 557 fps.
You're welcome.
GravitysGame 1 month ago
KWA M4+ KWA USP+ Real AR= Systema PTW M4, so you can get a real gun, and still have an awesome gun to play airsoft with (and a side arm for airsoft to) I know they use this for training, but that's sad.
ARC1453 1 month ago
if you want fucking realism get a gbbr like a WE M4.
TheFarazHawk 1 month ago
techninogical?
nufsikcarc 1 month ago
i like the kwa erg better
MrCodfather55 1 month ago
wat the fudge is that beeeeeeeeeeep
rocksk8ter98 1 month ago
I was in a war once..... then i took Vietnam to the knee
somethingorother14 1 month ago in playlist More videos from AIRSOFTGIdotcom
i had that gun once... but then i took an arrow to the knee
jockeyvt 1 month ago
This gun isn't made for just airsofters it is made for law enforcement training that's why it's called ptw. bbs are cheaper than fake rounds in a real gun anyway so yeah kwa or something else is a better choice but if you have the money to waste why not
Theunforgiven5649 1 month ago
600fps, 1600 dollars? Don't get it, could upgrade 600fps in my extenzor with all metal parts for still under 1000. This thing better shoot 2000rps.
TheAnonymoususer5 1 month ago
a real m4, $1000-1500, a systema aeg m4.... $1500-1600... no comment
L3ADV3N0M 1 month ago
u can get a real black oxide magnum research desert eagle .50 AE for less than this
dylanguo345 1 month ago
i am going to pay arund 1500 usd for bold release?
HypoNichts 1 month ago
If this is a ferrari than my gr16 is an lambo!
SuzukiRid3r85 1 month ago
Real AR is $800...
NorStarReviews 1 month ago
Why get this when you could get an SKS for $400? Or a KWA for that matter.
DatGuyWhoDidDatTing 2 months ago
As to me Airsoft is a stupid game.
SAMFICOM 2 months ago
@SAMFICOM Have you ever played it? and i dont mean with those shitty wal mart guns, i mean have you gone to a feild and played a game with at least 15+ people and a good qulity aeg?
xX7ristanXx 2 months ago
@SAMFICOM As to me, you are a stupid game
ppsg27 2 months ago
yes you can buy a real gun for less money, but try shooting people with it and see how that works out.
MrDuckeez 2 months ago
@MrDuckeez Only argument people have to play man barbie. I would rather punch paper any day than look like a fucking tool playing with toys.
NorStarReviews 1 month ago
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@NorStarReviews that's you. people dont need to bash on other people who dont follow the same views
MrDuckeez 1 month ago
1495-1695 bucks for an airsoft AR15?
im buying a real AR 15 for like 1000 bucks!
iamawhore1 2 months ago
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ShockMaster121 2 months ago
Tim: "lets see how hard it shoots now"
1:32 kid walks by
Tim: turns around, starts shooting the kid
AGY9000 2 months ago
id rather buy a real m4a1. or buy 3 brandnew reak ak47
paulgnc24 2 months ago
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mosk971 2 months ago
HAHA, in germany you can get it with about 550 fps but only in semi-auto.
Kackamann1 3 months ago
fucking chronometer piece of shit!
alezatf 3 months ago 10
you can get a real ar-15 for less money that does all that stuff but fires a .223 bullet
freestyleskier1231 3 months ago
Can it use High caps?
BigMac27725 3 months ago
I can buy two real ar 15s and ammo for them with that money
BigMac27725 3 months ago
Dear ASGI,
Please remove the speaker from your chronograph.
Thanks, Bobiana289
bobiana289 4 months ago 25
and if u ar lookin for sometin realistic just go with a gbb it is more realistic and cheap
TheDarkSideOfJesus 4 months ago
u can buy a real m4 for the price of that thing that gun is such a rip off i can build off a jg m4 and have a gun 3 times better for a third of the price
TheDarkSideOfJesus 4 months ago
can u change blue cylinder on this thing? if not id be a shame, if its not <400 fps u cant game with it anywhere.
TheGrahamAker 4 months ago
Real guns? Try having fun shooting your friends with them.
Also, reason why Airsoft guns, or Professional Training Weapons are so expensive, is because they feature more advanced and expensive technology than real steel guns.
Dont believe me? Ask someone who sells or makes airsoft guns.
Blazetwoe 4 months ago
a real Bushmaster M-4 costs around 900 bucks -_-
tehkiller29006 4 months ago
it shud feature shells and blowback like u load the bbs into shells then when you shoot the dust cover opens well it always it but then every shot the shell gets thrown out of the gun like a real one
XxSiRwAfFlEsxX 4 months ago
what type of baterry does it need can it take a lypo
airsoftenforsers 4 months ago
For 1492.00$ ill buy a real colt AR15 that price is crazy anybody who pays this much for a airsoft gun is crzy even if thy are good are not
glocklover01 4 months ago
@glocklover01
Whats the point of buying a freakin real AR15?
Oh go ahead and shoot your friends with a real AR15,it will take you directly to the jail.
These PTWs are for military training,not for a backyard airsofter like some of your guys.
Teksvidz 4 months ago
@Teksvidz
point takin i say i cant shoot my friends with the real thing ill spend the rest of my life in prison ...i still say 1400 dollars is a little steep for a airsoft gun for military training or not there awsome and i wouid love to have one they just cost way to much when i like target shooting with the real thing ill stick to G&G and KWA shomthing in the 3 to 400 dollar range if couid ever get another gun f--king job market
glocklover01 4 months ago
Ther is one Super Max on e_Bay , right now hurry up get it !!!!!!
Amrraa 4 months ago
WTF? $1,695? I hate people that say "buy a real gun, airsoft is gay." But for that much you can buy a real AR-15 and have money left over. Fuck that systema shit, I looked on ASGI and it costs $265 for 6 of their magazines (I'm not a retard who thinks ASGI is overpriced, I only buy from ASGI.) That's just ridiculous.
FunVanDriver 4 months ago
I dont get systema. They sell their PTW M4 for 1300-1500$ give or take( usually give) While real high end M4s without RIS systems are sold for 700-900 at the very most. Systema IS and probibly ALWAYS WILL BE nothing more than a fucking overpriced brand name.
Snapshot290 5 months ago
For that much money you could probably smuggle in an inokatsu m4 sopmod.
michaeln1995 5 months ago
@michaeln1995 Or buy a real one -___-
tokishreds 5 months ago
@tokishreds Since when can you play airsoft with a real gun?
michaeln1995 4 months ago
I like airsoft, but for a price like that I rather buy a real gun, like a .50AE Desert Eagle instead.
BobbyPlane6252 5 months ago
@BobbyPlane6252 if you want the real imi your paying well over 1500,
mightygalfred 4 months ago
@BobbyPlane6252 Desert Eagles are one of the most stupid firearms one can own
xXsiLeNtXkILLzXx 4 months ago
Meh, I think I'll buy 5 WE Gas blowback M4s..
Wontonwabledoo 5 months ago
a real glock 19 cost 400 dollars......
barelylogical 5 months ago 24
@barelylogical this is expensive, because teh army uses it for training purposes
911timm 2 months ago
could have made the bolt catch a little more realistic no?
nimasag1 5 months ago
nice and silent good for a stealth set up
MrSwimmingmango 5 months ago
i just had one of these littereally shoot out two of my teeth
dur1313 5 months ago
ok seriously anyone who is worried about a gun shooting really hot needs to get the fuck out the only reason the ptw shoots so hot is that it can use extremly heavy bbs and can be felt throught full tactical gear meaning... you get shot you will know
kfx700991 5 months ago
For thst much money mine better come with a real pistol!! -_-'
tjpickel2 5 months ago 26
@tjpickel2 real m4 not pistol
xxXfanosXxx 4 months ago
@tjpickel2 u cant play game with a real gun dude.
TheGrahamAker 3 months ago
@TheGrahamAker His point was you could buy like 3 real pistols for the price of that airsoft gun.
FKRairsoft 3 months ago
@FKRairsoft and what could I do with 3 pistols? go rob a bank? id rather get 1 really good AEG and go to many war games then have fun.
TheGrahamAker 3 months ago
@TheGrahamAker That's not the point. If you know anything about internals you could build a reliable gun shooting that fast for roughly $800. I know because someone I used to play with payed a tech to build him his. Aside from that if you're going to pay that much for an airsoft gun then either you have the money to piss away or your priorities are screwed up.
FKRairsoft 3 months ago
@FKRairsoft its either spend 800 bucks on a gun then spend another 800 to modify it, or buy a systema with 1.5k which has amazing trigger response and features. I own 4 AEGs, 1 CA 1 G&P 1 TM and 1 systema, compare to the systema, the other 3 does feel like a toy. trust, u will never know untill u owned a systema, it is worth the amount.
TheGrahamAker 3 months ago
@TheGrahamAker Uh, no. It's either spend about $200 on a base gun and then another $500-$700 to modify it to perform and be reliable like a Systema. If you're looking for realism then get a GBBR. Airsoft is a game so I would never spend over $400 on a gun when I can get what I need for $300 or less. Especially when there's more important things I could spend 1500 dollars on.
FKRairsoft 3 months ago
@FKRairsoft 200 on a base gun....LOL, what u gonna mod? velocity arms? u will end up getting a shitty gun and waste tons of efforts.
TheGrahamAker 3 months ago
@TheGrahamAker God you're stupid as hell aren't you? That's probably why you wasted your money on a Systema instead of building a gun since you know nothing about internals. If I was on a budget, I could build a gun shooting about 500 fps with .25's and 30 rps with an 11.1v lipo for under $500 easy. Buy a shitty base gun, maybe a JG for example, take out the crap gearbox and replace everything internally. Done. I'd list the internals if I cared enough about what you thought.
FKRairsoft 3 months ago
@FKRairsoft this comment alone proves you are the stupid one, not me.
doesnt matter whch AEG you buy, none of the features the bolt catch like systema, none of they is capable of stop firing when out of ammo, none of them has the amazing trigger response like the PTW, you can never achive the feature of "motor completing entire cycle no matter how fast you pull the trigger", I jammed one of my TM PSG1 before cuz I pulled trigger 1st, and building 500 FPS is plain retarded.
TheGrahamAker 3 months ago
@FKRairsoft i actually bought a cylinder to power down so I can go play games. start talking shet when ur gun dont jam after pulling trigger like this. /watch?v=2YdzEkoN5s4 , if financial is an issue for you, then dont play airsoft, same logic apply for everything.
TheGrahamAker 3 months ago
@TheGrahamAker There you go again. Where did I say anywhere that finances were an issue? I said there are more important things to spend 1500 dollars on and then I said I could build a gun shooting as fast as a systema ptw for half the price. And if you want realism get a GBBR and upgrade it to shoot 500+ fps. That would only cost about 400 dollars total. My point, if you have the money to blow on a Systema great, but they're uneccasary.
FKRairsoft 3 months ago
@FKRairsoft just one question, do you own a systema?
TheGrahamAker 3 months ago
@TheGrahamAker Nope but I have shot one and made an informed opinion that they're no where near worth $1500. I could get a gun and an entire loadout for that much money. And on top of that when your systema breaks you have to spend alot of money in replacement parts.
FKRairsoft 3 months ago
@FKRairsoft so you do not own one, then you have no say in this, shot one and owned one is not same.
if the systema is my 1st AEG then you can say that my opinion is subjective, but i owned 3 exclude my pistol and evne include a tokyo marui, but those still felt like a toy.
TheGrahamAker 3 months ago
@TheGrahamAker So you spent damn near $3000+ on airsoft guns? Back to my point, you can get the same performance from building an AEG for alot cheaper and if you want realism get a GBBR.
FKRairsoft 3 months ago
@TheGrahamAker So you're paying 1500 dollars for the feel of a real gun? VFC and G&P only cost 400 and have beautiful externals. Heck, even a REAL gun costs less than a PTW. Are you paying for realism? Cause a GBBR or KWA's new ERG is far more realistic. Are paying for performance? A KWA sr10 costs 385, and shoots 200+ feet accurately at 1400 rounds a minute. What makes this gun so magical besides the name?
cheetok1ng470 2 months ago
@cheetok1ng470 shoot one, feel the trigger response, feel the smooth shooting, now pick up a G&P, shoot it, and u will feel the motor spining in the grip and feels like gun is falling apart, if you cant pay the right price, dont be jealous and trash talking non realistic stuff to make something looks bad.
TheGrahamAker 2 months ago
@TheGrahamAker I never talked bad about systema. If I was to buy a systema, I just want to know that I'm getting what I'm paying for. Say I DO get a super max - $1600, and along with it systema mags and battery - $300, daniel defense rail-$110, flip up sights - $90, edgi barrel in order to match the accuracy of a kwa - $60. That adds up to $2160, whereas a g&p v5 costs $339. So I'm paying almost two thousand dollars for a slight less vibration in my pistol grip?
cheetok1ng470 2 months ago
BTW the Ferrari of airsoft guns(systema) costs MORE than the Ferrari of REAL GUNS (KAC SR15 e3, Bushmaster ACR )
cheetok1ng470 2 months ago
@cheetok1ng470 oh too bad ur in proverty, if u think systema is expensive then every paintballer in this planet must be mad.
TheGrahamAker 2 months ago
@TheGrahamAker so your final argument comes down to "if you don't own a systema you must be in poverty." You cannot come up with anything that shows a systema is worth the $1800 extra (besides"slightly less vibration in the pistol grip"?) Therefore by saying that owning a systema proves that you're wealthy proves my point. You are merely paying for the brand name, not actual quality.
cheetok1ng470 2 months ago
@cheetok1ng470 not to mention real gun shoots real bullet, even if real bullet cant harm people, after few thousand rounds im p sure it costs way more than BBs.
TheGrahamAker 2 months ago
@TheGrahamAker bash a systema and a bushmaster acr against a tree, the systema will break, the bushmaster will not. The acr will take MUCH MUCH more abuse both internally and externally(Higher quality materials). Same goes for a russian arsenal AK, much more durable and less than half the price
cheetok1ng470 2 months ago
@cheetok1ng470 umm im sorry, how is this related to what I said at all? so during a training, instead of shooting, you purposly go smash ur gun on the ground over and over? there might be small coliations during training but im sure PTW can handle that, and if you just love to smash ur gun then idk, either ur mad or retarded.
TheGrahamAker 2 months ago
@TheGrahamAker I'm talking about QUALITY. A systema costs 1600, an arsenal ak is 900. For almost double the price, the externals on a systema are WEAKER therefore LOWER QUALITY. Therefore the systema is NOT WORTH the money.
cheetok1ng470 2 months ago
@cheetok1ng470 so in ur opinion quality= how much hit it can take? wow bro, ur even more retarded than i thought, then a punch bag has better quality than any airsoft guns, go to the game with a punch bag then.
TheGrahamAker 2 months ago
omg the noise on that chrono needs an off switch
kVaulkyrie 5 months ago
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THE308MASTER 5 months ago
I WANT THAT GUN
oMrM4G1Co 6 months ago
Such a low FPS I'm getting a echo 1 platinum edition with looks better and sounds better plus higher FPS for a quarter of the price....
SH1Ttalk3r50 6 months ago
@SH1Ttalk3r50 how is 390 a low fps ? its shooting with .43 bbs ? thats around 600 fps with .20s
graying23 6 months ago
@SH1Ttalk3r50 My $600 Toykyo Marui SOPMOD shoots 280 fps and it is more accurate and has more range then any airsoft gun I've ever had, considering I have a gas blow back HK416 that will shoot up to 560 fps. You're a broken airsoft players if you think fps is everything. And also you're an idiot he was using sniper bbs at 400 fps that's insane.
nacholad 6 months ago
@SH1Ttalk3r50 hes using .43's dumbass
the69ltdmodz 6 months ago
@SH1Ttalk3r50 ok hes using .43 gram bbs which are sniper bbs and is shooting 400 fps thats ridiculous fps isnt everything that makes a gun and do i really need to point out the difference in quality between echo1 and systema c'mon dude
roflcopterQQQ 5 months ago
@SH1Ttalk3r50 You do know echo 1 are re branded jg rifle's which are clones of Tokyo marui,and he's using .43 bbs and it's shooting at 380 that's over 600fps with a standard .20.
SpamOThing 5 months ago
@SH1Ttalk3r50 You do know echo 1 are re branded jg rifle's which are clones of Tokyo marui,and he's using .43 bbs and it's shooting at 380 that's over 600fps with a standard .20.
SpamOThing 5 months ago
Maruis don't suck lol. They're plain ok. I own a tm mp7 and aside from the low fps its a damn solid gun. I've heard about the mp5s and stuff being junk but mine is amazing and was worth every penny. However you pay for the name as with systema.
Mariomonsta 6 months ago
does airsoftgi ship to denmark? please reply
thepessemist 6 months ago
@thepessemist They don't ship over seas :((((
kiuru15 5 months ago
Why buy this ridiculous gun when you can buy a high-end GBB and have the same function as that gun for less $.
aahumada3915439154 6 months ago
@aahumada3915439154 Because Systema PTW's aren't meant for the average, sensible airsofter. You can buy a frickin armory of high-end AEG's for the price of a PTW.
Mjarf88 4 months ago
not only is it expensive as hell, but you wont be allowed to use it anywhere. damn.
zenkicookies 6 months ago
@zenkicookies You can put a different cylinder in to change the fps to something that would be field legal.
michaeln1995 5 months ago
@nigahiga
RabbitLitvyak 6 months ago
omg @raywilliamjohnson
mathiasavp 6 months ago
omg @nigahiga
mathiasavp 6 months ago
OR you can buy a sweet KWA and a real sig saur p226 9mm handgun.
GaAjPwNz 6 months ago
If ASGI would do a mystery box with a few of these in there I would definitely buy one.
DatGuyWhoDidDatTing 6 months ago
yes systemas are amazingly high quality but seriously? for the price your better off buying a systema gearbox then getting your own externals it will be alot cheaper with the similar quality and more practical for airsoft if you want a cheaper option get a kwa their very high quality for FAR less (300-400$)
TheMamaluigi2 6 months ago
Dear SANTA!!!! NOW ......
MrFabiplayer 7 months ago
can you shoot people legally with a real firearm
15slee123 7 months ago
@15slee123 yes
andreasyoman 6 months ago
holy shit you can get a real ar15 out the door with tax and a 150 dollar scope for 400 dollars less than an airsoft gun and is is fucking awsome and dosent shoot plastic bb's im not saying i hate arsoft guns im just saying 1600 dollars for a fake gun is riddiculus
echoblaster42 7 months ago
@echoblaster42 Yeah but that's going to be a not good quality firearm. Law enforcement uses a $3,000 Colt AR that is made by FN Herstal.
tylerflow 6 months ago
Ur better off getting an sr10
xTheLegendaryWafflex 7 months ago
what bb should i use for a steyler aug 77 and a m83??
johray5 7 months ago
@johray5 .20 or .25 gram bbs
eatzz1 6 months ago
@johray5 .25 or .30
aleksandersandstrom 6 months ago
i wish i could have that gun
mudcatbaseballplayer 7 months ago
just hearing the price made it sound like it was shooting at a 1000 fps, but im figuring its not just that..that its the internals in the gun and how it operates..
Y1GOLO671 7 months ago
@NooberPwner Nobody knows what Asian/Japanese people do.......
1:32 Asian is drinking a soda?
minichamp116 7 months ago
why does everyone compare guns to maruis? Maruis suck man. why not G&G, KWA and systema. those are the best
4everUSNavy 7 months ago
@4everUSNavy no, no and most certainly not
fanofCOH 7 months ago
@fanofCOH actualy yes all the way. you can get a KWA and spend $400 KWA M4s are the best. sytema may be better but isnt worth paying $500 more dollars for few better things. systemas are over priced and over rated
4everUSNavy 7 months ago
@4everUSNavy or! you could hand craft aeg's from the ground up like yours truley and have THE best guns on the field.
fanofCOH 7 months ago
@fanofCOH
when it all come down to it. it only takes 1 bb. doesnt matter how much the gun cost and what you put into it. im perfect with my g&g mp5a4 sportline
4everUSNavy 7 months ago
@4everUSNavy while theirs no argument in that discussion i will not lie. it definatly helps having a blistering wall of plastic to ensure a good hit ratio or being able to reach out to 250 feet and still hit a headsize target consistently all the while having the rate of fire of a mini gun.... or the semi automatic response time of a real steel firearm. theirs no comparison between hand tuned pieces of art and stock guns in the end..
fanofCOH 7 months ago
@fanofCOH the gun is only as good as the player. no matter how good it it is its still worthless if in the hands of poorly skilled and unexperienced player. if im good at getting in close "grabbing you by the belt" and having a good cooperation from other teammates to distract you and go to your flank. i play with strategy and seems to work great actualy.
4everUSNavy 7 months ago
fuck marui, long live systema JAJA
MilitaryAirsoftTeam 7 months ago
is that legal? 0.0!
raspmonkey 7 months ago
THIS WASN'T UPLOADED ON MY BIRTHDAY BUT YOU SHOULD STILL GIVE ME ONE FOR FREE !!!
LegitxFlip 7 months ago
for that much i could but a real gun
tjruler102 7 months ago
@tjruler102 I know right like wtf? You could also buy like 3 or 4 higher end AEG's.
xWYHxBaird 7 months ago
@tjruler102
Yea, let's all just buy real guns and bring it to the field and shoot our buddies with them. How fun!
kimmin1208 7 months ago
@kimmin1208 hey asshole i never said use them on people,i'd do more useful stuff like hunting
tjruler102 7 months ago
@tjruler102
This is clearly not a hunting video is it, asshole?
kimmin1208 7 months ago
@kimmin1208 i never said it was could have bought a new VTR and got a trijicon scope put on it,and im guessing english isn't your first language
tjruler102 7 months ago
@tjruler102
Here's your logic: "Oh, gee, I have so much money, I want to buy a Lambo, but hell, I can buy 2 tank engines with the money I have, so I'm gonna go with that!"
kimmin1208 7 months ago
@kimmin1208 1.i'd rather have a tank engine that a lamborghini
2.that first comment was a comparison of prices
tjruler102 7 months ago
@tjruler102
And what will you do with a honkin' tank engine? That's how everybody knows you're just an nonsense child on the block. Haha
Good day!
kimmin1208 7 months ago
@kimmin1208 if i had a tank engine i could place it an semi truck
tjruler102 7 months ago
@tjruler102
Like if you're old enough to even drive. Remember, you're a nonsense kid on the block.
kimmin1208 7 months ago
@kimmin1208 you are the one acting like a moronic child trying to act as if he is grown even when the subject has been explained to you,you proceed to be an annoyacne to the other person beyond explaination
tjruler102 7 months ago
@tjruler102
Says the guy who buys tank engines.
kimmin1208 7 months ago
@kimmin1208 i am going to end this conversation before i end up having grey hair again
tjruler102 7 months ago
@tjruler102 and kids can drive on closed tracks an one their parents private property and permission
tjruler102 7 months ago
@kimmin1208 theres no need to be a douche
tjruler102 7 months ago
Crossman>Systema
DrPepperDrinkers 8 months ago
stay away from systema, they are garbage and when they break on you...AND THEY WILL you are SOL since they are very hard to work on.
PimpSlapNoJutsu 8 months ago
systema ptws have very high pitched motors
brunzy1994 8 months ago
You guys should put this in a mystery box
DatGuyWhoDidDatTing 8 months ago
for 1550 bucks u can have your very own airsoft gun
BlindRage740 8 months ago
@BlindRage740 fucking A
dannypadrino 8 months ago
Tim, How much is the Airsoft GI PTW Challenge Kit Assembly/Repair Kit if you guys put it together for me?
naruto9500 8 months ago
Why make it so powerful. Its not really safe to use such a powerful gun. I know its super high quality and its worth every single penny but holy hell 390+ with .43gs in an AEG. Id surrender before letting someone shoot me.
ThatNoobSomber 8 months ago
0:48 Technonogical
karlawson 8 months ago
KWA is the Mitsubishi Eclipse. Almost a sports car, but no cigar.
supabeast23 8 months ago
OMG THIS WAS UPLOADED ON MY BIRTHDAY! @AIRSOFTGIdotcom you should give me one for free
MrWahoodles 8 months ago 54
@MrWahoodles It was my birthday too.......
xX7ristanXx 6 months ago
guys wish me luck, that is going to be my summer pay
MrWahoodles 8 months ago
@MrWahoodles i thumbs up to that man...... good luck
trabbitt23 8 months ago
I remember seeing these PTWs in the airsoftGI store a couple of years ago. Now that I am finally considering getting one, I can't seem to find them for sale anywhere, whats going on?
jcslp15 8 months ago
How can you NOT mention that it's FPS is based on different cylinders?
ensampojken 9 months ago
VFC?
MrJakebradley123 9 months ago
kwa is a toyota prius to the systema theres a reason police trainings use these and not the KWA LMAO there great but there not ferraris
chachito867 9 months ago
kinda shame that the body is made of pot metal....
chainaguer 9 months ago
No way is kwa near the quality of a systema. I own 3 ptw all of them mil/le and not one problem yet. Aside from a battery wire going loose the system of these guns is worth it.
The arrogance of some people that talk down on the systema's are either to scared to drop the money on them or are kwa trolls. I just sold a sr7 that I had for year and a half. Sold that shot for 200 bucks. Nothing but problems and the help I got from kwa forum was a joke.
My advice , save and buy one of these. You w
monstermaxx 9 months ago