"Salvation is a gift, just take it"...How can God not ask me to do more than trust Christ to make up for all the wrongs I have done against him. In the garden man was told he could do whatever he wanted, except for one thing, do not eat fruit from " that" tree. Now God tells us you do not have to do anything except for one thing, receive my gift. It seems that man is still being disobedient today, in not wanting to do that one thing He asks : )
not at all. You just start with a non-christian assumption that a person must be capable of obedience if God commands that person. God is in no way unjust to command something to beings who cannot obey apart from his grace. This is why it is not circular because I do not hold to that assumption.
They are not skeptics they are arguing the Point of wether christianity is Fact or Fantasy. Both are Born Again believers trying to answer the arguments of Skeptics by Role Playing a Skeptic on one side while the other Defends the Faith.
But it's still oddly interesting, isn't it? It annoys me that Sproul stops short just when he was about to demolish his opponent's arguments and then reinforces them
The problem is that the fundamentalist are willing to accept blatant contradictions and inaccuracies in the bible and will spend their whole lives spinning a tangled web of rationalizations to justify their faith.
when you die you will meet him. Whether you believe or not. If you happen to make it through the tribulation period and that's if it happens in your Life time you may see him physically return at his second coming.
Fucking dumb christian fags
04raikkonen 10 months ago
Ugh, got to 6/7 and I cannot listen to any more of this circular logic, dishonesty, and misrepresentation.
It's just embarassing how irrational and just downright stupid these two are especially the older man, he's just plain retarded and crazy.
Feralus69 11 months ago
"Salvation is a gift, just take it"...How can God not ask me to do more than trust Christ to make up for all the wrongs I have done against him. In the garden man was told he could do whatever he wanted, except for one thing, do not eat fruit from " that" tree. Now God tells us you do not have to do anything except for one thing, receive my gift. It seems that man is still being disobedient today, in not wanting to do that one thing He asks : )
theflarpus 1 year ago
I love logically circular arguments!
TheAmazingImbecile 2 years ago
Oh my God, what wonderful men joking around and laughing. They crack me up!
May the Lord bless them all!
Amen
amlach1 2 years ago
LOL! The biggest circular argument of protestantism -- salvation is a free gift from god, but you're forced to pay for it anyway.
destronia123 3 years ago
we freely accept it after God changes our will so that our will will automatically and freely accept it. Read Edwards's Freedom of the Will
jgrig2 3 years ago
Still, logically circular. If we HAVE to change our ways in order to accept a "free" gift, it's not free and neither is our will.
destronia123 3 years ago
not at all. You just start with a non-christian assumption that a person must be capable of obedience if God commands that person. God is in no way unjust to command something to beings who cannot obey apart from his grace. This is why it is not circular because I do not hold to that assumption.
jgrig2 3 years ago
Wait, is this video taking place when r c scroul wasn't converted because I thought he was a calvinist??
kylemorne100 3 years ago
this is a prop debate. He takes the other side as a role play.
SKYSPLASH 3 years ago
oh, thank you for clearing that up.
kylemorne100 3 years ago
I love Walter Martin's role playing about witnessing to a Jehovah's Witness!
Creationcreed 3 years ago
There is more evidence Jesus existed then anyone in ancient history. The skeptics are totally ignorant of history.
Psalm130 4 years ago
depends who you wanna believe!
NathairSaille 4 years ago
They are not skeptics they are arguing the Point of wether christianity is Fact or Fantasy. Both are Born Again believers trying to answer the arguments of Skeptics by Role Playing a Skeptic on one side while the other Defends the Faith.
SKYSPLASH 4 years ago
In other words they are doing nothing but building straw men and asking leading, biased questions with pre-formulated responses.
destronia123 3 years ago
But it's still oddly interesting, isn't it? It annoys me that Sproul stops short just when he was about to demolish his opponent's arguments and then reinforces them
Nocturnalux 2 years ago
ignorance of history is more a christian thing
NathairSaille 4 years ago 2
The problem is that the fundamentalist are willing to accept blatant contradictions and inaccuracies in the bible and will spend their whole lives spinning a tangled web of rationalizations to justify their faith.
destronia123 3 years ago
Wrong. There's more eviden ce that Rameses existed -- we actually have a body as well as lots of writing and statues.
destronia123 3 years ago
theirs no credible evidence that jesus christ even existed
NathairSaille 4 years ago
even the jews admit he exsisted, what more do you need?
balancex3 4 years ago 2
evidence????
NathairSaille 4 years ago
Nathair, look at the links and books in my profile.
Psalm130 4 years ago
when you die you will meet him. Whether you believe or not. If you happen to make it through the tribulation period and that's if it happens in your Life time you may see him physically return at his second coming.
SKYSPLASH 4 years ago
nope, I'm Amil.
jgrig2 3 years ago
The majority of contemporary scholarship believes that Jesus existed.
Jpangyarihan 4 years ago
Simply put, the Bible means what it says...
Gal 5:6
The only thing that counts is faith expressing itself through love.
John 14:15
15 "If you love me, you will obey what I command.
Simple thought but sadly ignored.
ManofGodChristian144 4 years ago