The Candidates 2008: Hillary Clinton | Social Security

[MikeyCreation]

Yup she said it. "Booby".

[kacewright25]

Did she say "booby"?

[michaelmyersrocks]

Heres what she says about Social Security

Hilliary Clinton on Social Security

Opposes all efforts to privatize Social Security. Has stated her plan for Social Security is fiscal responsibility first, and then deal with any long-term challenges. Would support the creation of a bipartisan commission.

[927X213]

i thought she was jokeing when i saw her in the running. PULL OUT ALREADY!!!

[reportcard2000]

Hillary Clinton references how good the prospects were for SS when her husband left office; however, I am not sure this is correct. Look at the 2001 CBO Report (based on final year of President Clinton) projecting the $5.6 trillion surplus and you will find this:

"Over the longer term, however, budgetary pressures linked to the aging and retirement of the baby-boom generation threaten to produce record deficits and unsustainable levels of federal debt."

[ytdsmom]

FDR (dem) started Social Sec (SS) & made 5 promises which have all been broken. Who took SS from a trust fund to a general fund so congress could spend it? -- Democrats. And the dems were in control of congress. Who eliminated the tax deduction for SS? -- Democrats. Who started taxing SS annuities? -- you guessed it, the Democrats w/Gore casting the deciding tie-breaker vote. Who started giving annuity pymts to immigrants who paid zero -- Jimmy Carter (dem).

[swankytom]

I don't know about your first 3 points, but the 4th is Garbage. Every component of SS requires the participant to have paid in for a certain number of quarters, and for a certain minimum amount in each quarter. And the benefit recieved is a function of the amount paid (albeit a non-linear one).

[ytdsmom]

swankytom: With all due respect, everything is an actual FACT. Research it...

[swankytom]

prove it

[ytdsmom]

swankytom: you can go to government web-sites & get this info. If I have time later this evening, I will be happy to send you links.

[swankytom]

I looked it up on snopes. Most of what you say is urban legend from an old email chain(read: lies by partisan hacks), including your 4th point. Go to snopes, and search for Jimmy Carter. It's the first one.

[ytdsmom]

Snopes verifies what I said....the only difference is that the bill for immigrants receiving payments is SSI (Supplemental)...which STILL comes from the social security fund and it's available to anyone...regardless if they've paid in or not.

[swankytom]

Uh, you may want to re-read it. Snopes says that A) SSI is NOT Social Security. B) It is paid for from the GENERAL fund, NOT through Social Security payments, and C) NIXON, not Carter, signed it into law - so if you hate it, you're blaming the wrong President.

[ytdsmom]

Social Security was taken from a trust fund into the GENERAL fund by the democrats. What I'm speaking of is called supplemental security income. It doesn't matter what you call it, it's a form of social security coming from the Social Security fund that you & I pay into. I've seen many other references regarding Carter signing this, but I will research. Seems everything else is on target.

[swankytom]

Again, SSI is not part of Social Security (though the SSA administers it), so you're wrong about that. And it is NOT paid for through the SS Trust fund, so you're wrong about that too. Snopes also disagrees with your claim that "Social Security was taken from a trust fund into the GENERAL fund by the democrats". So you're WAY off target. Don't believe chain mail. Partisans use it to spread misinformation and propoganda.

[gabecollett]

Shes a nice person

Baby Boobers

is what shes was going to say

[apocolypse08]

No, she isn't! She is Satan incarnate!!

[ricktata2]

hillery is a murder along with bill!!! enought said!

[move2montana]

I am on social security disability.I have worked all my life,30+ years.I recieve $1000.A month.I had to find a doc,to release me back to work so I can pay my bills.I,over the course of my working life,was taxed a quarter,to a third of my check.Those of you younger than me,Should be real worried.

[jward52]

SS Best gov. program ever devised, BUT,- Congress Sabotaged (STOLE) it. CONGRESS needs to fix the Statutes of Social- Security. It is their' fault!! Money should Never had gone into general-fund. There is NO actual Trust-Fund Investing OUR $Money!! If the $billionS, over 30 years had been invested; and the SSA clients received the same payout as today, - then there would be Conservativly from $4-7 TRILLION in it now! But the SS Fund does not invest a penny. Impeach CONGRESS!

[jward52]

also: the average SSDI payout is approx. $800/mo, but sould be Conservativly $1600-1800/mo, if monies had been Invested instead of Stolen to pay other Debt! Impeach Congress!

[frostysmores]

She claims not to burden the backs of the middle class and will not lift the cap on Social Security, but 10% or less of Americans earn> $97,500, who's side is she on? Why should a person who earns a gross income of $97000 with $6,045 withholdings for SS compared to a person earns millions pay the same $6045, especially when the retirement age is going up and the SS is at stake?

[dmambrose]

The real truth is that social security is an another tax on the working person. The surplus money pay into social security go redirected to another parts of the government like the war in Iraq. The federal government does not save the money, it spends it. So this begs the question, are we getting taxed too much or retirees not getting enough money. Raising the social security tax will only give more money today and not save it for the future.

[frostysmores]

Part of the problem is that we are not taxing enough on Social Security. There is a Social Security Cap, or Social Security Wage Base, that protect the rich. An upper middle class family who earns a gross wage of $97,500 pays $6,045 on Social Security withholdings vs. a millionaire who pays the same, $6,045.

[dmambrose]

The damn govt uses social security tax as a additional revenue stream for dumb and poor people like you. UNDERSTAND THIS, the govt takes in more money they pay out. It is just a way to get more money out of you. NOTHING IS SAVED, not one dime is saved for yours or mine retirement. THAT IS ONE DUMB 401k plan.

[user38293]

and now the truth...

In 2000, Social Security's trustees estimated that its trust fund would remain solvent until 2037...not 2055, as Hillary claims here.

Therefore, we've actually GAINED 4 YEARS, thanks to Bush and the Republican led Congress & Senate.

And we've done that while fighting back from a major attack on our country, brought on by an irresponsible Clinton leadership in the 90s.

[h2opower]

Now ask your Candidate these questions:

1. How would you go about taking down the Federal Reserve Bank?

2. How would you go about putting a stop too fractionalized banking practices?

3. How would you pull the US out of the BIS, IMF, and World Banks?

These are the most important questions of all for once this is done we will have no debt as a nation, and with no debt all of the other programs can be made too work.

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