Democrats have changed~Zell Miller

[jrgz2788]

he's a woodrow wilson kinda democrat; very conservative and old fashion. Then again its typical of old people to say a newer or more recent group has lost its way since they are out of touch.

[sayagainrogerthat]

@jrgz2788 then again your a fool...

[trentreznorisgod69]

Zell voted against Fuel efficient trucks and SUV's, because good ol' boys like doing business on the tailgate of a truck.

Well, if this doesn't make sense, you are right. This is what he said though. BTW, Yes he is a Dixiecrat.

[sayagainrogerthat]

@trentreznorisgod69 a truck was... used for farm or ranch work fool... when you make a truck weak it becomes worthless like you... 

[DTGTEX]

Zell Miller was a democrat of the type the old South had that opposed Lincoln and helped have him assasinated. Then later supported the start of the KKK during reconstruction and mantained it for 100 years.

[standforchange08]

You are exactly right, in other words this man is a republican in democrats clothing! He reminds me of Blanche Lincoln and Mike Ross, you know the good ol' crooks of the south.

[sayagainrogerthat]

@standforchange08 the good ole fools of the north... you know power, war , fuck the constitution...  the right to leave the union, states rights.. another fool... obama fuck the constitution, the constitional requirements to run and qualify for the office of the president of the United States of America..

[norr4636]

@DTGTEX As a African American young man who live in GA during Zell Miller Governorship, I personally offended by your post saying because Zell Miller is a conservative who supported clinton is a racist. Do you know how many poor children he sent to College on the Hope Grant? Do you know he allowed poor mothers to work and helped pay for the children daycare?

[xXMFxColBruch]

when democrats turn to historic presidents like JFK, they ought to feel ashame of themselves. JFK supported lowering taxes and maintaining a strong national defense. however, that liberalism no longer exists in america.

[natewv1]

Zell Miller is the only Democrat that I could trust to lead our country. He's not your typical democrat. The majorty of the democrat party has turned hard core liberal.

[kevjo66]

Another inbred country bumpkin from Georgia.

[Sonorakitch]

Another unintelligent Democrat. Come on...surprise us! Post intelligently!

[standforchange08]

LOL, you are so right!

[bart11114]

Zell it's not the Democratic Party that's changed, it's you.

Here is a quote from your 1992 Democratic Convention Address

"Not all of us can be born rich, handsome, and lucky, and that's why we have a Democratic Party."

and now you criticize Obama for spreading the wealth around. So who's really changed? By the way Republicans want tax cuts for the rich. Is that not spreading the wealth around?

[rollingthunder1982]

God Bless Zell Miller! I am a Republican, but would jump at the chance to vote for this great man. He is right. The old Democratic party of Kennedy and Truman is gone. My grandfather talks about those men with pride, as he is a Democrat. But he supported Reagan and both Bushes and despised Clinton. He is disgusted at the so-called leaders of America today. Zell, you are not the only Democrat that feels this way. Talk to my grandfather.

[sanjosethornton]

WHo the f-ck names there kid Zell? And hey Zell, that liberal left wing group that you thought would hurt the democrat party nationally, now controls congress and the white house as well as more governors and control of state congresses. I thought you said the party was no longer national. I guess, it shows you don't know sh-t about politics. two years after you said the dems were doomed, they take back congresss and now they take back the white house, no thanks to you.

[lgday]

despite the liberal rhetoric. the tax hikes in the early 90's did not cause the 90's boom. from '94 - '97 the economy strengthened in a steady if not spectacular fashion in spite the tax increases. the primary reason for the early '90s recovery was the result in lower energy prices, the end of the cold war (so we thought then). inflation had finally been brought under control. prior to the '97 tax cuts the economy rose at an average rate of 3.2% after the tax cuts 5.3%.

[lgday]

by '98 capital investments tripled over those invested in '95' and doubled again in'99. from '97-'00 real wages grew at a rate of 6.5% compared to .8% prior to the tax cuts. all this was a result of the gingrich lead, republican majority congress.

[daddymak8]

" by '98, capital investments tripled, doubled in '99... all this was a result of the gingrich lead, republican majority congress..." Too bad that Gingrich resigned from Congress altogether in 1998, and was a commentator on Fox News in 1999. You idiots can't even get your talking points right. You see, had it not been for a guy named Clinton, there would never have been a surplus. And had it not been for an assclown nicknamed W, there wouldn't be a deficit. But hey, we got a $600 check. WOW

[lgday]

just because gingrich left congress does'nt mean his efforts did'nt carry on after him. the republicans were still in control of congress and it was the policies they initiated that produced the late 90's boom. your spin fails. you see if it had not been for a guy named gingrich and the republican held congress there would never had been that economic boom . and leave it to a liberal not being able to distinguish between a wartime administration and a peacetime administration.

[daddymak8]

Hey, assclown, the deficit was reduced by 20% in Clinton's first two years, under a Democratic congress. The policies of the Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act, passed in 1993, paved the way for the economic boon. Even George Will acknowledges this. And one inconvenient fact that you love to ignore is that EVERY Republican in both houses of Congress voted against it. And LOOK IT UP. Harry Truman left office with a surplus. He was president during TWO WARS. This is getting WAY too easy!!!

[geargemartin]

love your vocabulary. truman had both deficits and surpluses during his administration. he was fortunate that during the koren war we were also aided by various allies. though much maligned in his day he was a democrat with a good solid conservative foundation. the ushering in of the republican congress lead to the economic success of the later part of that decade. your getting way too sloppy.

[daddymak8]

So much stupidity, so few character counts. First, Truman had a surplus when he left office. So for the simpletons, that means when Eisenhower assumed office, he did so with a budget surplus. And Truman's surplus was generally from 1949 to 1952. And Truman was a follower of John Maynard Keynes, and his economic policies were referred to by Repukes as " Keynesian liberalism ". I love how fifty years later, you guys try to hijack Democrats because your party sucks. To be continued Palins

[geargemartin]

truman had a deficit 4 out of eight years including 1950. when eisenhower took office he had a small surplus. it's amazing to me how liberals tke credit by a president who was largely conservative.

[daddymak8]

What part of " Truman left office with a surplus " don't you understand? And he left a surplus despite TWO WARS. You see, conservatism and liberalism have NOTHING to do with economuc policy. It is SOCIAL policy that defines a conservative or a liberal. Republicans spun it into economic philosophy. You guys think JFK was one of yours, now Truman. Pretty soon, you'll be claiming Bill Clinton. You see, if economic policy was liberal or conservative, Ronald Reagna was a flaming liberal.

[geargemartin]

were did i deny truman did not leave a deficit. after WWII he was able to bring the budget under control.he had a surplus 4 out of 8 years. but of courses truman wasn't president at the end of the korean war and the cold war was not as intense as it became under Eisenhower. the fact that JFK and Truman were consevative democrats is not a new one. if you want to claim a democrat from the past claim jackson the founder of your party. he's all yours.

[daddymak8]

I did not say you denied there was a surplus. I was just pointing out hw you tried to minimize it as a small surplus. The fact that JFK and Truman were conservative Demcorats is REPUBLICAN BULLSHIT. They were mocked as liberals, Truman for his economic policies and JFK, by Nixon and Gordon Liddy, for meeting with Coretta Scott King after her husband was jailed in Birmingham. Oh, and if fiscal responsibility is conservative or liberal, Bill Clinton was a neo-conservative.

[geargemartin]

the fact that truman and jfk were not conservative democrats is liberal bullsh*t. they were both economic conservatives. both ardent anti-communist, both were just right of center on social issues. any candidate running against another is going to make claims. as it was nixon was more liberal economically than either. also i admit clinton was more a moderate than a liberal.

[daddymak8]

Like I said, anti-communism is not a liberal or a conservative philosophy. Ted Kennedy served in the army during the Korean war fighting against " communism ". Is he a conservative? Daniel Inuoye and Daniel Akaka from Hawaii fought in WWII, one of them was awarded the congressional medal of honor. Are they conservatives? Jack Reed of Rhode Island is a retired Army ranger? Is he a conservative? Jimmy Carter fought in WWII? Is he a conservative? Please. The talking points are offially old.

[geargemartin]

i should have said the later part of the 1990"s

[GodEqualsLove4ever]

I love Zell Miller--God bless him, big time!

[daddymak8]

Hey, Zell, you are no more a Democrat than Vladimir Putin is an American citizen. You are a Democrat simply for the purpose of criticizing Democrats. Your discontent Democrat act has grown really old really fast. Do us all a favor, stop masquerading as a Democrat and become a Republican. We HATE you.

[lgday]

zell is an old time democrat. he's just not your brand of left wing kool-aid drinking kooks that highjacked the deomocratic the party years ago.

[daddymak8]

Sorry to break it to you, but Zell Miller is no more a Democrat than Louis Farrakan is a member of the Ku Klux Klan. Zell supported Democratic principles throughout his political career.  He is hated by even the most conservative members of the Democratic party. He supported George McGovern for president, as well as Jimmy Carter, Walter Mondale and Bill Clinton, who was the primary target of Republican hatred until Obama was elected president. Zell SUCKS. Become a Republican or SHUT UP!!!

[lgday]

i here the same thing over and over again. doesn't it's correct. the problem with today's far left democratic party ther is no room for dissension only lock-step fascist uniformity. you cut from the same cloth that exclaim lieberman is not a liberal. JFK was a conservative democrat and if he were running for office today you and your ilk would decry him as unfit for the democratic party.

[daddymak8]

Democrats march in lock step fascist uniformity, hey? Last time I checked, when Democrats last controlled all three branches of government during Clinton's first two years, he nominated THREE people for attorney general before Janet Reno was confirmed. Not to mention it took a compromise with Republicans to get the Brady Law passed. And not to mention that he couldn't get a health care bill passed either. But EVERY Republican approved John Ashcroft and Alberto Gonzalez as AG.

[daddymak8]

And while you're at it, stop trying to use JFK as a means to justify Zell Miller's idiocy. He's a rightwing cuckoo who should be in Cedar Junction, not giving political speeches. I'll take the words of JFK's brother, sisters, and daughter over a Republican party who are so bankrupt of leaders that they need to hijack Democrats. JFK would not have advocated for the GOP and would lead the charge to oust both Zell Miller and Joe Lieberman. May they burn in hell. Zell Miller sucks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[lgday]

the 90's was the last vestige of a broad based democratic party. you may take the words of JFK's siblings, and offspring but JFK himself was a conservative democrat and if he expressed the same sentiments today as he did then he would be a pariah in the democratic party. i was born and rasised in the south. zell miller is an old time democrat. just not the slacked jawed abortion loving left coast liberals you see today.

[lgday]

as to joe lieberman. he is as liberal as you can get. save on one issue. the war in iraq and national defence. another example of the ultra left using fascist tactics to attempt to suppress all discussion of opposing issues in their (your) party.

[daddymak8]

As for " suppressing all discussion of opposing views ", let's see, the Republicans, while in control of the House, Senate, and presidency, created sub-committees of nothing but Republicans that stopped many discussions from even getting to committee. That's why no bills to regulate these predatory lending institutions were ever taken up until now. Talk about suppressing opposition. I spent a year as an aide to a Democratic congressman. I know how it works, don't even try. Another GOP myth.

[lgday]

what you are taking about is congressional politics not party politics. leave it to a liberal to try a steer the argument away from the subject at hand. my original statement still stands.

[daddymak8]

No, that's exactly party politics. Congressional Republicans formed partisan sub-committees that did off the record votes to decide what legislation got to valid sub-committees. Any legislation that went against leadership's positions never got to the sanctioned sub-committees, never mind to full committee or to the House floor. All in the name of partisanship. That shit was rejected in two straight elections. It's over, just like the Zell Miller wing of the Democratic party.

[lgday]

no. you missed the point. and again you try to change the subject. and once again you prove my point of radical lefts exclusion of conservative democrats from the democratic party. btw. you can't tell me now that the democrats are in power they're not doing the same thing.

[daddymak8]

Yeah, I can tell you that now that the Demcorats are in power they aren't doing the same thing. Because Bush has got his way the majority of the time, simply because they do not have enough votes to override Bush's fuckups. Case in point, Joe Lieberman. He is a turncoat who betrayed his party and still holds a committee chairmanship. The " conservative Democrat " is a concoction of people like Zell Miller, it's a myth, just like Zell Miller's Democratic registration.

[daddymak8]

If Zell Miller hates what today's Democratic party stands for, GET THE HELL OUT. Give up his membership and register as a Republican. He only stays registered as a Democrat so he seems credible. That worked the first time when he endorsed Bush. It's old now. When you cross over more than once, that's when both your act gets old and you need to look at yourself. If the Democratic party of today represents nothing that Zell Miller believes in, then become a Republican, it's that simple.

[lgday]

a perfect example of one democrat telling another that if he disagrees he should leave the party. which of course proves my assertions. miller has been a democrat longer than you've been alive. the fact he wishes to provide a voice for other conservative democrats galls the likes of you. as long as there is a voice in the wilderness for a return to balance in the democratic party. ultra left liberal hacks will never feel totally secure in their current dominance of the democratic party.

[daddymak8]

Take a look at the last two elections. Democrats turned Indiana, Virginia, North Carolina, and Colorado blue. They didn't do it by electing " ultra left liberal hacks ". That is just the simpleton GOP talking points. They picked up seats in Idaho, Alabama, and Mississippi. Trust me, Travis Childers is on par with the Republicans on social isues, but supports his party on economic issues. And he has no use for people like Zell Miller. If he hates today's Democrats, become a Republican.

[lgday]

i don't know childers personal opinions. do you? but regardless, you confirm my assertions every time you insist miller should quit the party he has belonged to for over 50 years simply because you don't like his opinions.

[daddymak8]

Yes, I do know Childers' personal opinions, as I know Travis Childers personally. And many other members of the House of Representatives. He is a pro life and pro gun Democrat. But Childers supports his party on most economic issues, as well as the war in Iraq. Miller is a Republican masquerading as a discontent Democrat. Plain and simple. He has not supported any Democrat for office in the last eight years. WHen he endorsed Bush, he dies as far as I'm concerned. Go to hell, Zell!!!

[lgday]

you are a personal friend of childer eh? i won't call you a liar. i'll just chuckle quietly. i know for a fact the democrats in the house are forming legislation privately without consulting republicans. miller is a conservative democrat not afraid to voice his opinion in the face of liberal tyrants. joe lieberman is'nt a turncoat. long before he endorsed mccain, the democratic party turned on him. supporting another democrat in '06 conneticut primaries. lib's are pissed because it did'nt work.

[daddymak8]

I didn't say I was a personal friend of Travis Childers, I said I know him personally. Up until September, I worked as a Congressional aide. I've met almost everybody who serves in Congress, Republican and Democrat. And you lose the argument when yu pull things out of your ass. Legislation is drafted by individual legislators, not as a collective body. That's why it's voted on. It is written and the author gets co-sponsors to get it passed.  It cannot be voted on secretly, anything else?

[geargemartin]

for a former congressional aid you seem awful ignorant as to who legislation is drafted. sometimes it's an individual and sometimes it is a group that consults on legislation then assigns an individual to write it up. are you sure you weren't merely a page? as to the rest lol.

[lgday]

geargemartin: forget it. this guy is definatly into politics. you can tell because he repeatedly says the same thing over and over again thinking that makes it true.

[daddymak8]

Hey, gearge, learn a thing or two. Democrats, or Republicans, do not as a whole draft legislation. A bill is drafted by a member of Congress, sometimes a second or third person co-authors a bill, which is a combination of ideas.  Then, they try to get people to sign on as co-sponsors in order to gain strength in numbers. But they don't all sit around a table and throw in ideas. Legislation is crafted by individuals and voted on. It's not done as a collaborative group effort, like lgday said.

[daddymak8]

Zell Miller stays registered as a Democrat so he can try to pretend that rightwing ideas have Democratic support. If he were to switch, his discontent Democrat routine would officialy die, since everybody wants him to switch parties if he hates what today's Democrats stand for. As far as Liberman goes, he is not only a turncoat to the Democratic party, but to the voters of Connecticut, that is why he won't win re-election in 2012, since 63% of Connecticut residents hate him.

[1prouddemocrat]

Igday, most of the Democratic Party SUPPORTED Lieberman during the Democratic primaries. It was AFTER Lieberman LOST the Primary that most of the Democratic Party supported Ned Lamont, the man who defeated him in the primary.

[lgday]

thats just plain silly. if the majority of the democrats supported lieberman during the '06 primaries than he would have been on the democratic ticket for re-election. the democratic party and the ultra-left of the party party openly campaigned against lieberman.

[1prouddemocrat]

Lgday, the Democratic Party campaigned against Lieberman AFTER Lieberman LOST the primary. Obama campaigned FOR Lieberman. Bill Clinton campaigned FOR Lieberman. Hillary Clinton campaigned FOR Lieberman. Sorry, your argument does not hold water.

[lgday]

the left portioned of the democratic party funded lamont and actively campaigned against lieberman because of his pro-iraq war stance. sorry, your argument doesn't hold water.

[1prouddemocrat]

Lgday, SOME portions of the Democratic Party funded Lamont. The party establishment DID NOT back Lamont until he defeated Lieberman in the primary. My grandparents live in Connecticut, so I know. BTW, I'm DEEPLY offended by you telling me to grow up. As a senior citizen, I think you are DEEPLY disconnected with reality and you need to be shut away. Your time is over, it is now my generation's time. The USA of 2008 is NOT the USA of 1958. And I'm happy about that.

[lgday]

"its time for my generation". if your generations time your at least come up with something more original than retreading the who from '65.

[1prouddemocrat]

Lgday, how do you know for a fact the Democrats in the House are forming legislation privately without consulting Republicans? Are you working in the House right now? I didn't think so. You're just an arrogant right winger who is out of touch with reality and needs to be shut away. People like so are a danger to our society. Now you know how it feel to be condescended to.

[1prouddemocrat]

Igday, with all due respect, if the 90's was the last vestige of a braod based Democratic Party, the why is the Democratic Party STRONGER than it has been in a generation? JFK btw was NOT a conservative Democrat. By the time his Presidency ended, he was HATED in much of the south.

[lgday]

also the democratic party is stronger than it was '06 but by no means is it at its strongest for at least a generation. i would wager that in the democratic party was much stronger in '92. JFK was a military and a fiscal conservative and a social moderate. at the time of his assassination he was still a popular president in the south. as a college student in tennesee at the time i happen to know that for a fact. by '65 however LBJ had lost all credibility in the south for obvious reasons.

[1prouddemocrat]

Igday, in 1992, despite Clinton's victory in the Presidential Election, the Democrats were LOSING ground. They actually LOST Congressional seats in that election. BTW JFK LOST Tennessee in the 1960 Presidential Election.

[lgday]

regardless of Kennedy not caring tennessee in '60. in '63, because of his ant-communist position he was well liked in tennesee. i was there i lived it, you did'nt. now, unlike you. i don't like arguing for arguments sake so i suggest you grow up. accomplish something. learn from experience and maybe in 45 years your opinion might matter to me.

[daddymak8]

Give it up with trying to hijack John F Kennedy because your party is so devoid of any quality leaders.  Outside of tax cuts, there is nothing in JFK's repetoire that is supported by today's conservatives. And in case you haven't figured it out, JFK;s presidency would have ended 40 years ago. Times are different. Today's Democratic party is the strongest since FDR. You can have Zell Miller. We don't want him, we hate him. F--K Zell Miller.

[geargemartin]

really? jfk was anti-communist, pro military, pro interventionist, pro nuclear defence. your knowledge is unfortunately very flawed.

[daddymak8]

Yeah, really. You see, those are not issues that Republicans have the copyright on. You are part of the party that rallies behind cowards who didn't have the balls to fight but question the patriotism of those that have. That's why Georgia is represented by Saxby Chambliss and Johnny Isakson in the Senate. They even did the same thing to John McCain 8 years ago. Go away and live out your fantasies about blowing Herbert Hoover.

[geargemartin]

tsk, tsk, tsk. are we having a tantrum? those are issues embraced by conservatives, regardless of party. as to the insult it only exposes you as being frustrated by being illinformed.

[daddymak8]

Those issues are not also issues that conservatives own the copyright to either. The fact is that Republicans act as though they love this country more than everybody else does. But in the end, they're just hateful radical reactionaries. I don't doubt that both liberals and conservatives love America. The difference is the way they love America. Republicans are like children who love their mommy. America, like Mommy, do no wrong. Normal people love America like a parent loves a child...

[daddymak8]

As I was saying before running out of space, Republicans love America like a child loves Mommy, Mommy does no wrong. Normal people love America like a parent loves a child, when the child is wrong, they need to be told they are wrong. You " My Country, Right or Wrong " people are what has ruined this country. Bush is a My Country, Right or Wrong guy, so are the assclowns that voted him. Look where My Country, Right or Wrong has gotten us. Now, you may finish blowing Herbert Hoover.

[geargemartin]

continued assine, rhetoric and banal insults that is typical of a liberal. conservatives don't believe in america right or wrong. conservitives do believe however in america first. liberals think in terms of country last or they don't consider it at all. i shudder to imagine this country under gore or kerry. both frauds in their own rights. your right about one thing though patriotic americans do think of america as a mother to be cherished you however think of america as a child to be abused.

[daddymak8]

Yeah, I shudder to imagine this country under Kerry or Gore, too. Just imagine a president who actually reads daily presidential briefings. Just imagine a president who would have read the report served to him by CIA Counterterrorism czar Richard Clarke that chronicled potential US targets for terrorist attacks. Just imagine a president that if we were attacked, who would have put down y Pet Goat and went to see what was happening. Tge GOP, tough on talk, soft on action. Monday Morning QBs

[geargemartin]

just imagined a president that perpetrated the current global warming fraud for profit. just imagined a president that betrayed his fellow soldiers with exaggerated claims of civilian abuse and commited self induced wounds to receive medals. now imagine a presidential administration that has prevented all terrorist attacks against th U.S. since 9/11.

[geargemartin]

also, you love invoking hoover in the the most offensive terms. so you should know hoovers greatest error was to raise taxes during the beginning of the financial crisis. if obama goes forth with his campaign promises, he will do the same.

[daddymak8]

Hoover's greatest error was having his head up his ass. Fact is that when Bill Clinton raised taxes on people earning over $140k in 1993, it jumpstarted the economy and eliminated a then record deficit and turned it into a record surplus. Bush erased that surplus and made the deficit rang up by Ronald Reagan and his father look respectable. You get so offended when I reference you blowing Herbert Hoover. Were you his gay lover?

[geargemartin]

the economy in the '90's did'nt recover until the republicans took control of congress in '94. again your research s extremely flawed.

[daddymak8]

The deficit that Clinton inherited from Bush 41 was reduced by more than 20% in his first two years, so once again, you're Sean Hannity talking points have failed you. The deficit reduction began during Clinton's first two years and it progressed throughout his presidency. Enough of them went along with Clinton's policies because they knew better. After 1994, Democrats gained seats in the House in 1996, 1998 and 2000. Once again, your myths have been BUSTED!!!!

[daddymak8]

Come on, gearge, say something. Come on, find a way to credit Newt Gingrich for passing the Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act of 1993. Come on, find a way to credit Newt Gingrich for a budget that cut taxes on 15 million lower income families and 0% of small businesses. Come on, credit Newt Gingrich for a budget that implemented spending restraints and balanced the budget. Credit him with something that NOT ONE Republican voted for when it passed in 1993. Come on, I'm waiting.

[daddymak8]

Oh, I guess I didn't push down hard enough on the keyboard, so I'll repeat myself. Find a way to credit Newt Gingrich for a budget that cut taxes on 90% of small businesses. Come on, even though NOT ONE Republican voted for this budget that jumpstarted the economic boon, find a way to give Republicans credit. Come on, I double dog dare you. BWAHAAAAAA!!!!

[geargemartin]

wow you really are a wind bag. the fact is the republican congress of the '90's promoted lower taxes. especially capital gains taxes that helped stimulate the economy. the fact that clinton recognized the correctness in this position is a credit to him. it is also unfortunate that the republicans in the years following years seemed to have forgot the "contract with america".

[daddymak8]

Hey, gearge, go back to Clinton's record as GOVERNOR. He long ago had a track record of creating jobs and balancing budgets, in fact, he did so every year he was governor. And the Contract ON America was very shortlived. In his ever brilliant manner, he took the few things in that piece of crap that he agreed with and sold them as his own. He rolled the Republican congress like a band of homeless drunkards. America's success in the 1990's was Clinton's and Clinton's alone. BWAHAAAAAA!!!!!

[geargemartin]

you are welcome to your delusions.

[daddymak8]

And you are obviously entitled to yours. Oh, by the way, did you hear that your paragon of family values, Sarah Palin, is refusing to comment on the fact that the mother of her 17 year old daughter's boyfriend got arrested on four counts of possession with intent to distribute crystal meth? Wow, I never realized Sarah Palin was " pallin' around " with drug dealers. ANd she forced her daughter into a shitgun wedding with this kid. And to think Trig is the one diagnosed with down syndrome.

[geargemartin]

what does palin's daughter's boyfriend have to do with palin? i find it amazingly hypocritical that liberals bemoan obama's many questionable past associations and then ridiculously harp on a obviously personal flaw of someone whose connection to palin is not of her doing. but thats ok though. changing the subject is always a good tactic when one is on the losing side of an argument.

[daddymak8]

Sarah Palin went around ranting about how people like her love America more than everybody else. She ranted about having small town values. Well, she forced her 17 year old daughter into a shotgun wedding with someone who got caught on tape bragging that being a hockey player " gets him laid " and lived in a house where his mother was making and selling crystal meth. Some kind of mother. Unlike Obama's so called past associations, he didn't force his daughter to marry one of them.

[geargemartin]

i never heard palin rant and i never heard her say she love america more than anyone else. and she is a good mother by standing by her daughter, of course a liberal would insist the baby be murdered in the womb and a liberal would do his/her best to cover up the incident. i will give you this your hypocrisy is unabashed.

[daddymak8]

Sarah Palin, while in Virginia, stated that " nobody loves America more than folks from small towns ". Yeah, good mother. She forced a seventeen year old to marry a kid who bragged of his sexual conquests on his myspace account before it went private ) and lived in a house that was a manufacturing plant for crystal meth. But hey, I guess lying about giving birth to a fifth child so not to embarass your seventeen year old is a good mother. Until she got pregnant again, doggoneit, you betcha.

[geargemartin]

as to the marriage i suppose a bastard child is preferable to you. and saying nobody loves america more than folks from small towns is not the same as saying folks in small towns love america more. and what does her daughters boyfriends mother have to do with palin? as to you other accusation. thats beneath even you because you know thats a lie. if you don't then your a fool.

[daddymak8]

No, if it were up to me, no one under the age of 21 would be allowed to have children. Yes, that means if you're under 21 and get pregnant, IT GETS ABORTED. Used the caps lock so you'd see that I' serious. And she said " Nobody loves America MORE THAN folks from small towns ", so that was a whack at people from big cities, seeing how it was done the day after John McCain's brother called northern Virginia THE REAL VIRGINIA, so yes, it was an " elitist " comment. Trig is Bristol's, no lie.

[daddymak8]

What does the boyfriend's mother have to do with Palin? Simple. She forced her 17 year old to marry a kid who lived in a house that was a drug store. And whether we like it or not, politicians' family members are public figures and fair game. Sherry Johnston, Trig's paternal grandmother, is part of Palin's family. Trig is Bristol's, no two ways about it. There are no pictures of Sarah while pregnant, Bristol was quarantined for 6 months from school, and Sarah went back to work the day after.

[geargemartin]

who says she was forced? were you there? what makes you think plain knew of the alleged meth lab? are clairvoyant? and there is plenty of video were palin is clearly pregnant. i guess you are a fool after all.

[daddymak8]

In the real world, when a seventeen year old girl gets pregnant, responsible parents do everything they can to keep the other person AWAY FROM their daughter. They don't encourage and praise him for dropping out of school or encourage people who aren't old enough to vote or drive a car in some states to get married. And ALL the pictures taken of the Palins at the time of the " pregnancy " were removed from both her governor's office website and the campaign website. Trig is Bristol's retard.

[geargemartin]

i've seen plenty of videos of palin while pregnant. you continued claim to the contrary is becoming pathetic. as to the rest, your vitriol concerning palin sound, at best obsessive and at worse pathological.

[daddymak8]

Did you get the video I sent you that chronicled the Trig pregnancy? No one around her knew she was pregnant until the 7th month and she showed no signs. Bristol was out of school for mononucleosis for six months. I had mono when I was 17, it doesn't incapicate you that long, SORRY. And who travels from Alaska to Texas just days before being scheduled to give birth? And what retarded ass doctor would approve an 8 hour flight for a woman who was having contactions? Please, Trig is Bristol's.

[geargemartin]

yeas i got the video and i am now convinced you are indeed a complete nut. next you'll be telling me 9/11 was an inside job, the CIA killed Kennedy and we never landed on the moon. you, of course, may continue to prattle on, however i shall not respond.

[daddymak8]

Yeah, I know. You're one of these Republicans who never let the facts get in the way of the bullshit you heard on Sean Hannity or Rush Limbaugh an hour earlier. No doctor in the world would suggest a woman having contractions should fly 8 hours from Texas to Alaska, and no pregnant woman due to give birth for the fifth time is that stupid. As for 9/11, it was done out of retribution against the people who trained them. You did know that we trained al Qaeda, RIGHT? You're pathetic.

[daddymak8]

Dude, face facts. Everybody who served with Kerry back up the fact that he was wounded and earned those medals. NOT ONE detractor served with him, NONE. And your bullshit about not being attacked since 9/11 leaves out ONE BIG FACTOR, the actual attack on September 11th and the fact that Osama bin Laden is still at large and that Bush abandoned the mission at Tora Bora. Oh, and global warming has been MORE THAN substantiated by independent scientists with no political ties. Again, YOU LOSE!!

[sanjosethornton]

So basically he's a racist democrat that can't admit in public that he's racist. You know that saying, "I didn't leave the dems, the dems left me". Thats what people like jesse helms and strom thurmond were feeling in the 1960s. "The dems left me. They are longer racist. Boohoohoo!"

[Soberguysknowsbest]

Blame Barack.He sponsor a group who promote abortion in Chicago.Blame Barack.

:)

[lillypadlodge]

GOD Bless Zell Miller.