Founder Treatment Saves Crippled Pony

[MsTanjaKo]

How can anybody say anything about 'saving' this pony, if we see only the process of shoeing? There is nothing on rehabilitation of this pony, we don't know his story after

[Zada2011]

Besides, if I had to choose between the experience of someone who works at a world class school, and has helped horses with extremely bad hoof issues, have more comfortable lives.. . yeah I'm choosing the experience.

[Zada2011]

Shoes can be used to help prevent a crack from becoming a painful flare. In the case of the video above, they provided support to allow the infection to drain from the feet effectively, without compromising the animal's balance and integrity. Yes it is possible for shoes to cause problems. Some horses go much better barefoot, however some don't. While shoes can in and of themselves be a problem, they can also be the solution.

[Zada2011]

I agree that shoes have their own list of issues, but if the animal does not do well barefoot, even when you're using means to try to strengthen the foot, then the barefoot deal obviously isn't working for that horse. Now if you put a shoe on that same horse, that has bad feet and make it lame, and those problems are alleviated, then what's so wrong?

[Zada2011]

Now does this mean that if a horse has a weaker hoof that shoes should immediately be whipped onto it? No! If you can use more natural means to keep a horse's feet from cracking (such as good trims, oils to help keep foot in good condition and supplements,) then by all means your horse is doing fine and doesn't need shoes. If an animal's feet are doing well on their own then you can just leave them bare foot. However not all domestic animals have wonderfully sturdy feet.

[Zada2011]

Horses may not have been born with shoes, but there's a difference between wild horses and domestic horses. A wild horse with bad feet is much more likely to die compared to a horse with good feet. However with domestic animals it is not survival of the fittest. I have seen people use sires that crank out babies with bad feet consistently. Horses were born without shoes starts to lose its meaning once humans become involved. Weakened feet will require different standards.

[horselovermkdm]

where are u located?

[bb5385]

@horselovermkdm Crawford, Nebraska

[Martyshorse]

Thank you; now I have more material to show horse owners.

Basic Balance Hoof Trimming, Delhi Ontario

[fiddler9635]

Alright, let me through my 2 sense in. All of you that are raving about "barefoot trimming" and state that horses are not born with shoes need to rethink this. Yes trims are great, but over the years as we have breed horses we have gone for form over function, we have breed the feet right out from under them, thats our fault. As for "founder is a man made disease" no not totally, I have seen quite a few wild horses that have foundered.

[saddlemart]

I am a true believer in barefoot horses - horses are not born with shoes and have survived quite well in the wild without them. Laminitis & founder are not 'diseases', it's a condition caused by humans ie: improper feeding, overfeeding, too many chemicals in their diet, improper trimming or shoeing and no natural lifestyle. I aquired a 'founder' case mare that was immediately relieved of pain when a barefoot trim was done on her.

[H0useMouse]

@hoofrise I agree that shoes constrict blood flow. Believe me I'm a huge believer of barefoot horses. But in special cases like these, you need that shoe for support, and to take pressure off certain areas with special shoes.

[gerbilb]

@hoofrise My horse beat founder WITH shoes. He has come along great. So do some research. I know shoees are not always the best but at times THEY ARE NEEDED!!! So go to the library

[paulbolling]

thanks for all the business hoofrise....keep doing your thing.

[hoofrise]

@paulbolling What?

[hoofrise]

@paulbolling Are you being sarcastic?

[hoofrise]

Stop filling folks heads with false information. That is my problem with you. What you are saying is false. There are no instances when shoes are beneficial. The last thing people need to hear is that. I have many case studies and photos. This video does not prove rehabilitation it just shows a process. A process that harms the horse. All my photos are time elapsed and show obvious skill.

[HoofSupport]

@hoofrise You talk like a fanatic. You think that all horses should conform to your one sided approach to hoof-care. The reality is that horses under your care (if there even are any) are more likely to suffer due to the fact instead of doing what is best for that specific animal you would force them to work within your very narrow scope & limited protocol. Good luck on your jurney, I hope one day you break out of your narrow minded state and learn to help horses in what ever fashion helps them

[semtech30]

@hoofrise This guy has 50 years experience seeing the pro's and con's using different methods. He is sharing one of his most successful treatments.

Who are you ? Decieved thats what.

I myself see more ill barefoot hooves than shod one's.

Shod hooves speed growth and recovery, (proven). Because they eleviate pain and trauma.

You can't shoe, you can't afford to shoe, your horses suffer.

[tonymengela]

Let me very clear how I stand on this, First off if the shoe can get the horse back on his feet and keep the configuration correct UNTIL the feet are strong enough to get back to the bare foot. Perhaps a special soft boot would be better, but one liner comments about me being so ffing wrong with no explanation as to why, says a whole lot about what you really know. I have a Rocky mountain, Tennessee walker, Percheron, and and Arab. All their hooves have to be trimmed different and are bare foot.

[hoofrise]

@tonymengela Either way you should not be commenting that shoes help horses go barefoot or heal the horse ion any way. They don't. They make it worse. Take responsibility for your uneducated statements. Correct trimming is the only thing in the world that can heal and strengthen the hoof.

[tonymengela]

@hoofrise this is my last reply to you because it is quite obvious who has the so called (education here) as you cannot give me an explanation other than an insult or two. I have seen with my own eyes hooves that could not support the horse where special shoes were required to get the horse on its feet so that it could stay limber and active till such a the hoof had grown back again to support it. I have been around horses my whole life and the proud owner of some.

[tonymengela]

@hoofrise I have seen accidents where the horse has ripped the hoof in half. What do you do then? well I tell you, you cut the bad material out, use the right poltice if it is bleeding and put it back together. Epoxy is ok for the top but to hold soft tissue together and to protect a bottom shoes is required to hold the two side from flaring out and causing more pain and improper re-growth. When things are knitted together you take the shoes of and pasture them on soft ground for a while.

[hoofrise]

@tonymengela Explain to me how the shoe helps the horse get back on his feet?

[tonymengela]

@hoofrise please explain how I am wrong

[hoofrise]

@tonymengela Because shoes don't correct or protect the hoof. Correct trimming restores the hoof to health. The pony in the video was left incorrectly trimmed. The application of the shoe is not eliminating the problem of the incorrect form. Not to mention shoes have a list of problems they cause on their own.

[semtech30]

The Best part of Butler is the sharing of his practice and experience into vid clips and books. He can't be everywhere so we appreciate his findings and documentations.

People around the world can apply the methods to cure the horse instead of uthanizing.

I know now these poor hoof conditions can be reversed back to fuctional hooves.

Thanks Butler.

It's your Legacy.

[mortonfarrier]

Butler is the best !!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hes books are my horseshoeing Bibles!

[EddiesMum91]

Sorry, lost me when you put shoes on him.

[tonymengela]

@EddiesMum91 I am not a fan of shoes either however their are cases when it is need to correct and protect the hoof when severe cases are present such as in this horse.

[tonymengela]

*there

[semtech30]

@EddiesMum91

Because your ingnorace blocks your understanding capabilities.

You don't feel it's pain, so do nothing ?

Stay with it mum, you'll get the message.

[bellahorse151]

Thats just BEAUTIFUL!! But i mean beautiful that the lady gets her horse back, and its okay shes doing great, i saw this horse for sale who's name is Sierra and is an Appaloosa, the lady said in the description that she was one of the 15 horses saved from neglact, and that when they got her, her hooves her too big so that could be a sign of laminitis.

[gerbilb]

Great job. God Bless yall for saving that poor pony. Thank You for posting this.

[hoofrise]

@gerbilb But they made the situation worse! They did not save him. Lets get a current update and video.

[gerbilb]

@hoofrise How?? Give me a reasonable anwser on how YOU know they made this pony worse??

[draftman420]

u guys are the best!

[hoofrise]

@draftman420 They are the best at pinching off digital arteries and destroying coffin bone.

[meldidnot]

YEAH! You saved the pony! Very cool.

[sjfarrier111]

After many years in the farrier business, I believe that Dr. Butler is among the best in the Country when it comes to laminitis and many other lameness cases. We truely are blessed to have his wisdom to draw on when we need it. Dr. Butler has given many years to our industry and every equine owner is better off for it.

[hoofrise]

@sjfarrier111 Too bad the horses are not better off.

[txshoer85]

WOW I can not believe some one could neglect that pony for so long. Great clip, can you post more please.