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  • This man is brilliant and his books are a great read. He writes really well for a lay audience! Highly recommend any Robert Saplosky books!

  • PEOPLE ITS FUCKING SIMPLE!!!!

    RELIGION IS BOLLOCKS!!!! ITS A GUIDE TO LIFE...NOT A WAY OF LIFE!!!!

    let the mindless people work it out for themselfs,Science might not explain everything but its better then beliveing in any book thats not been proven accurate!!!

    Muslim extremist that blow yourselfs up, good on you ya stinky fuck, just dont take innocent people with you u selfish bastards!!!

    Religion is for the mentally blind!!! they need a guide dog!!!

  • In fact, Schizophrenic people, when they are florid, sound very, very spiritual, even wise. Because of this, many Christians have their spiritual; agenda set by florid schizophrenics.

  • I love Dr. Sapolsky, except when it comes to squeezing info out of the muck of religious nonsense. Then i prefer Joseph Campbell. :)

  • ΡΕ ΠΙΘΗΚΕ ΠΟΙΟΣ ΕΙΝΑΙ Ο ΚΑΤΑΣΚΕΥΑΣΤΗΣ ΣΟΙΥ ΚΑΙ ΟΝΟΜΑΖΕΣΑΙ ΚΑΙ Professor ?

  • Type up John Allegro the sacred mushroom and the cross and the pharmacratic inquisition. Basically religion is the symbolic reference to psychedelic drugs and physical processes.

  • simple

    the world is filled with irrational people who judge others by their hair style and people who make false accusations without evidence or sense and people who want to believe everything to be simple and easy.

    there's a god in the unexplained skies and all is right with the world.

    the end.

  • its funny because he looks like jesus. he must be the anti christ

  • Oh this is perfect.

    Just... perfect.

  • Religion is a drug and it is legal but cheaper than crack but just as dangerous.

  • @The94bmw ΕΙΝΑΙ Η ΜΑΛΑΚΙΑ ΠΟΥ ΣΕ ΔΕΡΝΕΙ ΑΧΡΗΣΤΕ!!!!!

  • @221056theodorou You what?

  • DUDE WHERE DID YOU DIG THIS CRACK POT UP. ALL HE IS DOING IS SPOUTING HIS OWN RELIGION AND JUST LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE IN A RELIGION, HE ACTUALLY BELIEVES HE IS SPEAKING THE TRUTH. MAYBE HE IS A PSYCHOPATH. IN THEM OLD DAYS VILLAGE ELDERS HAD A LOT OF INFLUENCE ON THEIR TRIBES. THEN AS ONE TRIBE CONQUERED ANOTHER WELL YOU HAVE THE BUILDING BLOCKS OF WHAT WE HAVE TODAY. THAT BEING MIGHT MAKES RIGHT. BUY HIS RELIGOUS BOOKS IF YOU WANT. YOUR JUST ANOTHER SUCKER WAITING TO BE TOLD HOW IT IS

  • @riseingstardust Dude, don't you understand how the basic of science works?

  • @riseingstardust "IN THEM OLD DAYS"? where did you learn english

  • @riseingstardust What do you know man your retarded this guy has spent more time in a lab then you'll ever spend in your bed, prove what you say before you say it like most professionals.

  • @captainAUBS  If you are impressed with this guy. You are an idiot, and have not a clue to understanding human behavior.

  • ... WOO YEA JESUS WOO!!!!

  • Evolution is a meta-magical belief in the supposed power of objects to order life forms, Richard.

    Sapolsky made fun of people believing in crystals and your beliefs are no different.

    The ordered function of most of the most common elements inside of is observable evidence that we do have a very great Maker.

    This means that Sapolsky and Dawkins don't have a clue of what they are talking about.

    We can expect our Maker to do very amazing things.

  • Since we are no different now, what are we substituting for religion in our own era ?

    People are amazing idiots ... how scaring ! Ghosts, the Devil. Most people do not get the real world and live in the past or centuries ago ... and that is only on the surface. People have even weirder ideas of ethics, right and wrong, morality, etc. It creeps me out.

  • Thank you

  • @914light

    What ...kind of argument ....is that?

  • @914light Way to really make your point, I always find that one's hair style is directly related to their intelligence and the validity of their arguments.

  • @914light Ya because hair style and knowledge are directly correlated...

  • @ShookOnesTO ...well, a good rule of thumb..when you call someone else psycho ...don't look and sound like one or self.... {wink}

  • @914light lol what on earth are you talking about?

  • @ShookOnesTO... u'r self .. ..oops typo ... I must be irrational {eye roll} look, this dude is calling people who believe in religion / God nut-jobs ...as he looks like he still swings from a tree ok ....

  • @914light That is the worst assumption i've ever heard. look up grigory perrelman or albert einstein. they look insane. but they are genius' plain and simple. You need to open a book my friend. Judging people by their hair is just pathetic.

  • @ShookOnesTO .. oh thank you ...I do hope you brush yours ...: )

  • @914light now you're assuming I have hair?

  • @ShookOnesTO ...LOL OK your toooo funny ... : )

  • @914light funny bunny, silly goose, snotty moose

  • if you want to know what religion is, go take a dump and look at it

  • religion is organized insanity,superstition,fuck religion until humans get rid of these stupid titles lik jew,hindu,buddhist,muslim,chri­stian dat we have to given to ourselves on what kind of fairytale u believe in,we will never be emancipated from this religious bullshit

  • @thescorpionking2020 funny thing is there is no merit or proof to what these religions believe in. it's all bullshit and made up. scientology is a great example of the irrational people in this crazy world.

  • @ninhbac04 well dude u r absolutely right,religion is a big pile of shit,made up by evil old men,and most of d time used by priests to oppress women and keep people enslaved in thr filthy superstitions,religion thrives whrevr superstition thrives,dats y these people hate evolution coz evolution emancipates humans from d belief dat our lives and destiny r controlled by supernatural beings,and without thr imaginary being they wont have anything left to fool people and fill their pockets

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  • @ninhbac04 scientology and mormonism r obviously rackets as hitchens says,and most of d religions r indeed rackets and scams especially d revealed ones,religion is the most crude way of obtaining knowledge even though its false,worthless attempt to make sense of d things around us made by our terrified ancestors,d advantage it has over d mind is dat it came first and dats y it survives and thrives to this day and is a source of misery to entire humanity

  • @macharius188 you just admitted that mutations are not 100% random.

  • I used to have great respect for Sapolsky until I saw this video. He shows obvious signs of conditioning when he includes UFOs and ghosts with Religion. Obviously he has merely gone along with the herd without bothering to do any research in these areas. He has the Carl Sagan prize, I bet he doesn't know that Sagan knew of and admitted to knowing about UFOs but refused to do so publicly for fear of the damage it might cause to his career. Sagan wasn't a scientist he was a coward this man isn't.

  • @macharius188 you're mutation statement. is that based off of a complete knowledge of the truth of mutation itself? or is just assuming that because we can't understand it now, we never will? if so, then it is rendered void, as it would be more of an opinionated bias then a factual statement. regarding reality; who are you with your limited knowledge to judge my limited knowldge? besides that, I was not talking about some complex phylosophical theories. I was talkng about scientific reality.

  • @braklinath No, that's based off of well documented scientific research. A majority of mutations do no harm or good. What could possibly drive a mutation to do nothing? We know what external factors can cause horrible mutations such as: radiation poisoning, cigarette and even some medication.

  • @iratetruthers I think I'm seeing the "organized schizophrenia" come out.

  • reality isn't random. when the universe is based off of mathematics, random isn't possible. there is a purpose for everything. God does exist. maybe not entirely in any human explained description, but at least in the personification of morality. I for one, do believe in the general sense of religion. in superstition, fantasy, and so on. but I am in no way, have any mental disorder. I'm even considered to be highly intelligent by everyone who knows me. I just know of a way for it to be possible.

  • @braklinath I agree with you.

  • @braklinath How do you know? Reality is what your brain projects from what information it gets. There's random in mutations and mutations are very real. I can't imagine what high intelligence you possess.

  • i fuckin love the beard

  • Sapolsky is wrong for telepathy. I can use telepathy.

    I can exchange voice, video, smell, people can move small move muscles on my body from distance and more. I never found any document about any other existing person in human history like myself, but science never did serious research on me and I actually did not exist in world of science.

    I could easy give evidence for telepathy.Maybe some of Neurologist or scientist

    could help me or is maybe interesting to make research on my phenomena.

  • @VinkoRajic Here's his email address (sapolsky@stanford.edu), I'm sure he would love to hear from you.

  • do any of his students have his email?

  • is it not right to assume that there are things in this world that can not explain? or at least not at this very moment?

  • @braklinath There are things that cannot be explain as of yet, fair statement. There are things that could never possibly be explained, possibly; yes, plausible; no.

  • There is no evidence for menstrual synchronicity in humans. This guy is completely outdated...

  • @CrimsonRefractions ...except for the hundreds of documented cases from women who have been synchronized with roommates, friends, and partners?

  • @macharius188

    How come they don't publish their results I wonder. Some researchers recently wasted time again to show once again there is no such thing as menstrual synchronicity in humans. The study title is literally that, go check PubMed.

  • @macharius188

    Additionally I'd like to point out that literal synchrony is impossible since women have menstrual cycles of different lengths, and if you're going to allow for the variance that entails your error variance alone will cover up most of the month and you wont be measuring synchrony anymore. And even correcting for that there is no relationship, but really, don't take my word, check pubmed...

    PS. If you dont have access to an article, message me here, I'll put it up for you.

  • U.F.O. is a unindentified flying object.

    If you toss a stone on a car. untill it was determined it was a stone... it was an unidentified flying object.

    What is not to believe in somehing that has not been identified yet ? :P

  • @xtremezmoez haha yeah i always say that i believe in ufos for the very same reason you just said. he should have been more specific and said aliens or something along those lines.

  • @xtremezmoez because the stone actually exists.

  • @xtremezmoez A stone does not possess the ability of flight because it is not self propelled or have any mechanisms of propelling itself through the air. A stone thrown at a car would not be classified as a UFO, even if it had not yet been identified.

  • @Russian Assassin 21

    As long as it has just been seen as 'something suddenly Flying at them. and hitting it.

    And no obvious "throwers' then they will easily assume it flew there.

    As long as the scientific belief is that the world is flat.

    You would get stoned to death to say it was round..

    Now we know its round.

    .

    So, in that mindset. if somebody doesnt know somebody Threw it. they can think it was Flyng at them.

    They also can think a god toses ligthning bolts.

    So Flying Stone isnt Farfetched

  • The difference between science and religion is not as great as people may expect. They are both branches of philosophy. I would argue that religion (which is ubiquitous within humans) is not a a 'schozophrenia', but served an important psychological and social role... partly for explaining the world, partly for organising a society to have a unified set of ethics. Science has a fantastic method, but is not value driven, and this is difficult to use in this way.

  • Sorry I clicked post because the page must not have refreshed in my browser, I was not intentionally spamming. My apologies.

  • this guy isnt rediculous, stanford was funded by rothchilds and rockefeller. schools that teach the public only what they want them to learn. history that has been tampered with. this guy is a fluke

  • it seems that is complicated to live at USA, they have to polarize there opinions to make it count, at least when you discus.

  • smart man

  • Professor Sapolsky looks so cute when he was younger. :)

  • Wow, this guy is clearly intelligent and well read, but he doesn't seem to be making a whole lot of arguments.

    His one point is that all religious people are mentally ill? And that we can immediately dismiss all of the collected works of all types of theists simply by placing them in the 'insane' box?

    I don't know that that's got a whole lot of explanatory power; somehow deciding that the vast majority of all human beings in history have been schizophrenic? I think that's a little simplistic.

  • @masteroftheobvious86 His argument is that it isn't mental illness, as he's suggesting all humans share this prediliction to religiosity. It has proven to be advantageous as our species evolved for one reason or another. Is it still advantageous for our species? That's another question entirely.

  • Sigh... makes me sad to think I dropped out of college ..

  • I can't believe what these college people say, America is in a lot of trouble. Atheists ruin reality.

  • @salvinorinman And by reality you mean? Atheists have the advantage of being able to look at reality with out all the religious biases.

  • @salvinorinman Bigotry like yours is ruining reality. Make an argument, or shut up. 

  • Athiesm goes against thousands of years of revealed truth by mystic philosophers who were a lot smarter, enlightened and psychologically advanced than this idiot sapalotski. I don't like his tone, his beliefs or anything monkey-man has to say. he is indoctrinating people into a very depressing view of reality, but fortunately atheists are to selfish and egotistical to organize churches,so monkey-man and his psychotic ideas will pass like all fads do. Have a nice day. Two words: tax-exempt.

  • Truth is a phenomena more complex than simply a thing that can be "revealed". We have come a long way since those "mystics". (Though ofc it is not wise to dismiss our intellectual history)

    Well... I don't like your tone, however it doesn't mean much. It may be depressing to you... I find little implicitly depressing in this. Do not stereotype people by their intellectual positions. I do not consider myself egotistical and I do not consider founding churches a positive phenomena.

  • @salvinorinman you said - "atheism goes against thousands of years of truth" What truth? What evidence is there to what these people have been saying for thousands of years is true? There is not a shred of physical evidence to support religion. So how on earth could you say he is ignoring thousands of years of truth. Did you not hear what he was saying about superstition. Religion is nothing but superstition. Fact. Fact. Fact.

  • @salvinorinman geee, angry much. Want to get rid of atheism? Get rid of theism. Done.

  • @Snarkathon where do we think all of our sciences would be without shamanism? If it wasn't for these "schizotypals" civilization would not have developed, organized society would not have occurred, pharmacology would not have happened, medicine would not exist, and we would all be subject to anarchy. It requires a great stretch of the imagination to believe that stages of human progress were the result of crazy people, considering that the evidence is overwhelmingly contrary. Its bullshit.

  • @salvinorinman I think youre actually proving his point. Atheism has nothing to do with the biology of the brain. Why the hell do we need to organise more churches. *shudder*

  • @salvinorinman schizotpal is a personality disorder not mental.

  • @salvinorinman schizotpal is a personality disorder not mental. and yes the world would be different but to say civilization would not develop is just retarded.

  • @MrNBartos The cerebral cortex is a direct physiological advancement caused by the ingestion of higher level neurochemicals over generations. Without which the level of abstraction that allows for language, culture and society would not have developed and there would be no humans only apes. As such civilization would not have developed. You and sapalotski drastically underestimate the importance of shamanism on human evolution.

  • @MrNBartos @MrNBartos The cerebral cortex is a direct physiological advancement caused by the ingestion of higher level neurochemicals over generations. Without which the level of abstraction that allows for language, culture and society would not have developed and there would be no humans only apes. As such civilization would not have developed. You and sapalotski drastically underestimate the importance of shamanism on human evolution.

  • @salvinorinman Abstract thought became necessary when we began to take in more data than could be processed during direct perception. This became possible when we began to extend our natural abilities via the development of complex tools. See, "The Part Played by Labour in the Transition From Ape to Man", Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels.

    You and Sapolsky are both wrong. Totemism predated both shamanism and belief in gods.

  • No your wrong. Reality is not your bought and paid for religion which was created by the same crooked men who run the world. They gave you your corrupt education entertainment and yes religion too. Maybe do some homework and realize many good people believe in Factual data not some 3500 year old book that demands rape, murder and war, child, animal sacrifice. So this is evil, not this man, we cannot stand this evil your religion has brought upon the Earth, start with Ralph Ellis, Facts!!

  • @joeczapski I am not an Israelite or Hebrew or even monotheistic, so most of your comment is a false assumption. You have learned a lot from sapalotski apparently. I'm sorry maybe it's just that I can't stand the guy. He looks like he needs to evolve to a human and quit saying nothing with so many words.

  • @salvinorinman *crying laughing* at 'he needs to evolve. Hes forgotten more than you will ever know.

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  • strange that only half of the audience sticks around for the second video - where (at the end) sapolsky has lots of nice things to say about religion.

    And If you check out Sapolsky's brilliant 25 part lectures on the biology of human behavior there are some clips that have less than 1000 views. Its like you cant give away a free Stanford education!!?

  • @ginsushark the thing is people DON'T WANT to know about these things. It's mainly a choice, a simple choice, either you believe or you don't. It's easier to believe.

  • i believe in a higher power and ive seen spirits and that same spirit got on me and pinned me down .the reason it got off was JESUS saved me.now someone keeps telling me im sick and brain damaged for my faith .if everyone just knew god was real and faith was constant ,how would our faith grow and our knowledge .life would be like a test with all the answers on it.i think one of the reasons people dont believe is cuz of disinformation.

  • hi

    i believe in God

    bye

  • @sarsfieldusmc

    hi

    i'm going to actually watch this video and maybe learn something

    bye

  • when was this filmed? 1998?

  • Irrational is all that will be or will not be rationalized. For a while, believing that the world is not flat was irrational.

  • @marendoo I think there's a problem with the interpretation of what a word means. Rational or irrational are usually interpreted as right or wrong, better or worse, superior or inferior. When actually it is more of a mental process. You can decide something irrationally, and it turns out to be something better, more positive or truthful than something you think about (you rationalize) for ages. There's nothing really rational in most people's belief that earth is round.They were just told,

  • Thinks that just by looking like Jesus he can make him obsolete. But it wolud be nice he showed some more. Like some less populistic arguments.

  • @LetJimiT8keOver - lol...but, he reminds me more of Zach Galifianakis.  ;D

  • I'd love the transcript to this

  • The universe has no limits, which seems irrational/illogical, still it's the way it is. So he and atheists believe in something. I'm agnostic. Agnostics are the only ones who are really rational. Believing that UFOs don't exist is as irrational if not more irrational than believing that they exist.

  • @vegetalienne1 Yes, indeed, believing that UFOs do not exist is particularly irrational now that earthlike planets such as Gliese have been discovered, and several physicists have discussed possibilities for ftl travel.

    Sapolsky is good in his specialized research, but this lecture is frankly bigoted in a number of ways. In addition to UFOs, the preponderance of research on psychic phenomena seem to indicate that they exist (see Dean Radin). The opposition to belief in psychic phenomena is

  • @givebirthathome not rational, it is the result of an emotional fear of connection.

  • @givebirthathome Belief that UFOs don't exist isn't irrational. The best evidence we have at this point in time for the existence of UFOs are cellphone pictures and crop circles, which are to say the least, incredibly dubious. Most of which have been proven fake. Also, just because faster-than-light travel has been discussed, it doesn't mean it's possible, or achievable. So I fail to see how not believing in UFOs is irrational.

  • @rawssremix Belief that UFOs don't exist isn't irrational, given the information you have: I would disagree that the best evidence we have at this point are cellphone pictures and crop circles. Someone's been pulling your chain, leading you to believe that : )

    There's a lot of whackos in the UFO movement that believe in UFOs for deeply irrational reasons, but there is extensive pilot

    testimony, and even more convincing, the air traffic controller reports, and military surveillance.

  • @vegetalienne1 Any good atheist is actually deep-down an agnostic. Because if real proof appeared, if strong, tangible evidence for the existence of God came to humankind's attention, good science-lovin' atheists would convert. Right now, I'm an atheist because there's no evidence for God, but as I say, if such evidence were to exist, I'd change my beliefs accordingly. So I suppose you could call me an agnostic, but one who thinks there's no God

  • @rawssremix There's a nice fancy term for atheist-leaning agnostic, but I can't remember it now. One thing that is good to watch out for is a lot of dubious victimology in the atheist movement. Its huge, not the struggling cadre it makes out to be. I just saw a figure showing atheism would be the world's 5th largest religion.

    Science is fine, but I'd suggest you check out Dr. John Ioannidis work immediately, and philosopher of science Paul Feyerabend when you have more leisure.

  • @givebirthathome I presume victimology means that there are many atheists who insist they're being victimised? I'd actually agree with them. In the USA at least, anyway, where a recent president said "atheists shouldn't be considered citizens". Imagine a statement like that aimed at any other minority group. "Gays shouldn't be considered citizens." or "African americans shouldn't be considered citizens." It's a pretty awful thing to say considering it's just a different point of view.

  • @givebirthathome Do you have a link to John Ioannidis' work?

  • @rawssremix George Bush said a lot of off the wall stuff. I actually liked the one about gynecologists sharing their love with women the best..anyway..the Atlantic Monthly article on Ioannidis does a pretty good job, its one of the top google results.

  • He's brilliant & a great teacher but this is highly selective. Better title would be: aspects of one element in the origins of certain types of religions.

  • Sapolsky is my anti-drug.

  • @LetJimiT8keOver Best comment yet.

  • This is brilliant and this is exactly the type of education we should all be receiving. Religious people always claim that atheist are 'delusional', yet are so uneducated that they can't see that they are the ones that are delusional.

  • Ratio-fetishist.

  • I never understood the giving birth and still being a virgin part. It doesn't make sense to me to skip the best component of the whole experience. LOL

    I still listen to this professor's lectures from Stanford University's YouTube account. He's a modern genius. I can listen to him for hours without falling asleep.

  • he is also in zeitgeist 3 moving forward. Amazing man.

  • atheus!

  • Man this guy really has a gift!

  • In response to his question at 6:45, Rene Girard has a very enlightening perspective on what the necessity of these people are. His insights videos are available on youtube.

  • I wonder if i copy his intonation will my students be less bored

  • Religion IS organized schizophrenia

  • @Mry2kerick , ok, but what that explains? Nothing.

  • What year did this lecture occur?

    This guy is a pure genius.

  • hah he looks like jesus :)

  • @newworldodour lol i was just about to type that!

  • Indeed, humans are not fully rational. There is no perfect society. Religion is just one aspect of our human nature. The truth is the average man does not have a deep belief. We just have a herd instinct. In Saudi Arabia, I would be a muslim, In the US, I probably I wouldn't have a religion, because there is no moral majority. In Mexico, I was Roman Catholic out of the herd instinct. Now, that Mexico's changing, I still have an irrational Belief: God. But I don't have a religion.

  • Wise chatter

  • there is 12 astrological signs that are inside the bible samson is my clasic example because there is multiples of thirty (days in which the sun gos through each sign) inside the story samson kills a lion then he looses his strength after getting his hair cut by dalyla The sun has long hair inside the sign of leo ( the lion) which is july 20-to august 20 then the sun gets weaker after getting his rays (hair) cut by virgo ( the virgin ) which is between 8/20- 9/20

  • @rcoldman

    How does the way he holds himself imply unintelligence? So i guess steven hawkings is as smart as a vegetable? Sapolsky has recieved many awards for teaching and is a world leading neuroligst and endocrinologist and head professor at stanford university. Your completely biased ad hominem attacks just make you look stupid. Go take your bigotry elsewhere

  • The word is very irrational. Beliefs are left over defense mechanisms from the fight or flight times of evolution. But at least it keeps people busy.

  • He talks super fast. I wouldn't like to take his class for a grade, but to audit, OMG.

  • He does talk fast, but he's completely understandable. So many other speakers run everything together, Sapolsky's speech is clear and distinguishable.

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  • @rcoldman wow... this is absolutely insane - breathtaking

  • @Cre8tvMG It's so great when people say just because I'm not able to comprehend something it must be a big invisible bearded guy who did it. If we maintained that perspective we would still be in the bronze age. Just FYI theoretical physics shows possibilities of our universe coming from a multiverse.

  • @Sylosis333 could you explain that last theory about multiverses better? it seems interesting

  • You could look it up on line it has to do with m-theory our universe being flat in a sense. Look up bubble universe and string theory

  • Oh how did I stumble upon this genius!

    All I can say is that I'm going to Standford!

    Imagine a fundamentalists' mind In Sapolsky's class...

  • @TheObnubilators You may want to go to high school first, then apply to Stanford. (not Standford)

    I'm just goofin' a little with you,

  • @blortner it was a typo butthead... i go to rutgers

  • You broke the threshold of making sense, but if you're going to make a logic argument you need to go all the way. I need to see axioms, conjuctive/disjunctive operators, and implicative operations. You need to define your propositions. Your claim is pretty equivocal as it stands.

  • you really think youtube is the place for that? :-)

    I just commented because I hate it when people present flawed logic as a support for their argument. I think that sort of sloppy teaching should be pointed out so we can start to really learn. I think what happens (both with atheists and theists) is that when they get someone to say what they want to hear, they hold them up as a genius. I'd rather listen to a challenging, but accurate and thorough, teacher.

  • @Cre8tvMG and that is about someone talking to a burning bush?

  • I wonder how heavy your preconceived argument.

  • So you believe the universe was spontaneously generated 'ex nihilo'? From nothing came something? There was no first cause? Because that is not science, it is metaphysics. Either the universe was created by something outside itself (commonly referred to as God) or all that energy came from nothing. Which is it?

  • What a beautiful black and white mind you have... Really? It has to be just one of the two?... Hmmmmm... I dunno, tough decision... I'll have to get back to you on that./....

  • OK. Thanks! get back to me with the third option. I'd love to see it.

  • @Cre8tvMG there was no beginning and there will be no end, so the energy did not come from nothing and it did not come from without as it always was.

  • @Cre8tvMG Who said nothing! We just don't know yet! Look people believed diseases were caused by the evil or as a punishment from God a few hundred years back. they didn't understand it was caused by germs. This notion that everything we don't know yet justifies a supernatural being is absurd.

  • @Cre8tvMG of course, but that doesn't tell us anything about christianity or any other thing commonly referred to as religion as an institution and a certain set of princples and rituals.

  • I couldn´t fail to disagree less with you

  • One word, no two words: incredibly fantastic!

  • @bezigewesp

    he makes people feel clever 'cos you're listening to somebody that uses long words and talks in a constant flow.

  • @bezigewesp... he would be causing them hugh amounts of stress.....

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