I don't agree with his methodology regarding how he came to be a Muslim, however I respect his right to believe what he believes. I called myself a Christian, because I was born into a Christian family, however the whole religion stopped making sense when I started questioning it. I'm now a pagan pantheist, however I understand the absurdity of systems of belief without any valid supporting evidence. If it turns out my beliefs are wrong then I'm not going to fret.
I think the whole video can be summed up: false dichotomy. Well you should be a muslim because christianity you just inherit.... (he even catches himself as he recognizes one of the faiths you're definitely born into in Israel sometimes is Islam). Doesn't recognize the fact that Buddhism or Jainism are more peaceful, or that atheism is also a decent alternative. Should live in and around Egypt, because California is more dangerous. What about Ohio? What about England? Very rambling.
So... you're a person who wants to go with one of the ... popular faiths. Because other people have been forced into it, it must be awesome. Your first sentences make you realize none of them believe because it is actually reasonable, but just because of family tradition and the book verse that says if you are an apostate your family has to kill you. But you don't care? Try science. It actually does stuff! What is amazing about a person claiming to speak for god. Thousands in history claim to.
Check out "Sam Harris video on end of faith", I don´t know much about Islam, and I do not mean to be unpolished just think Sam Harris has a great point about global ethics.
I thought this was a Non-religious video at first. You do realize that the exact same logic that you applied to Christianity can be applied to Islam and every other religion, right? The Quran is better written than the Bible or Torah and is more consistent in and of itself, but it's basically just the same inconsistent and non-sequitur logic, scare tactics, arbitrary rules, nonsensical theology, etc that both Christianity and Judaism have, just in a slightly different form.
THANK YOU for the invitation !! But I have to politely not accept your request.
I certainly dont feel qualified to speak about Islam but if your quotes and writings represent ISLAM .. my dear friend I have to suggest you to rethink your position and thoughts and beliefs.
Most of the video and agenda written for the video are quite questionable and not decisive in marking your belief as free from illusions.
there is no youtube but youtube... (wow that is amazing ....thats is. that makes perfect website wow. i started watching youtube it was amazing there is no youtube but youtube )
Here's the problem dear Muslims: Mohammed had sexual intercourse with a 9 year old girl. This makes him a pedophile. Mohammed beheaded 600 Jews in Medina in one night. This makes him a mass murderer. Mohammed waged wars to spread his ideology. This makes him a Fascist, and a war mongerer. Mohammed said Jews and Christians were ''apes and pigs''. This makes him a racist. Mohammed was a horrible, terrible and sexually perverted person...
@amilagmail Who are you think you deserve to be talked by God directly. Even the Director of your company are not willing to talk to you personnally, why you think God should talk to you personally. Budha teach that everything can come back to being God if they have reach the enlighment (budha means the enlighted one). So yes, because sidharta already enlighted, he was consider God according to buddhist.
nirvana is not being god. we are not trying to be any one. we are trying to stop being anyone. buddha is god??? where u learn ur buddhism?? mosque or church? do i need to ??
(i have a story book and it says its correct. so i u r saying i should belive that fairytale because it says so)
@amilagmail have studied budist enough to know, that buddhist teach that God is like a flame of the candle and the light emitting from it, is the material world. The purpose of buddism is to release from the suffering of the material world by not wanting anything so people can be enlighted and back to God, be part of God. Coz sidharta is already enlighted so he alrady part of God. If he was not, why the buddhist pray and ask him to fulfill their prayers.
plese dont lecture me abt buddhism. buddha is not a god he is supreme human being. we worship him not becase we afraid of him or he orderd us. its paying respect to supreme human. without worship u can be godd buddhist.
enlighten does not mean being part of any god. plese dont take ur imaginary god into buddhism
buddhists do not pray if he do its ageinst buddhas teachings
You forgot to mention, if you were born in a Islamic country, you would be Islamic. Try practicing another religion were islamic law is the law of the state. God is the same regardless if you are Christian, Muslim or Jew. You only differ in dogma. Like three brothers from the same Father! Personally, why not consider being open to protecting everyone's basic human rights than perserving a religious point of view. Freedom from religion means freedom of religion. Thank you.
The problem with religion in general, is that none can really seperate itself from the rest.
All claim miraculous stories of their books creation, none of which are ever supported by evidence, or the god they claim exists.
All of them point to gaps in knowledge as their evidence for god, and all are eventually refuted and the only support for their religion are 'divine verses' in their books which are only divine when 'interpreted' to fit with modern knowledge and never before....
...all books claim theirs is the one true word and others are those of man, yet all of them still exist, as all of them are similar in writing styles and claims, which is interesting as to how a 'god' doesnt have a writing ability to surpass 'man', nor have a book in a universal language, nor write it himself, even though he supposedly created everything.
All religions can claim statistical 'wins' like being the oldest,most popular etc etc, but all fail to have one thing....truth.
Where this talk fails is where he tries to disassociate Osama bin Laden from Islam. Historically, the jihadists are following in the imperialist footsteps of Mohammed, and if anyone living today can be characterized as true muslims - those guys are it.
@Gnomefro Islam is not terrorism ...tell me , why do you call muslim ,which has more than 140,000,000,000 fallers, are terrorists because a group of terrorists who called themselves muslim ? and why you do not call Christianity by terrorism because the greater Christian country in the world is killing the people in Iraq and Afghanistan , and supporting Israeli to kill Palestinians , plz do not judge on me if you do not know me
@joshkarandora my friend , I `m not agree with u because i belief islam ,Christianity and Judaism is ONE message ... Christianity and judaism have been changed by humans but islam is different ... because it has a lot of evidences in KORAN ,especially scientific evidences and it is the only religion that do not guarantee the paradise ask your self why is islam the most growing religion? why Christians and jews are converting to islam but muslims do not ?
Jews would say the Torah has scientific evidences Christians would say the New Estimate has scientific evidences. Same with the Koran
Fact of the matter is, these books are not scientific evidences. To make this claim you must be able to use the scientific method to prove anything of importance in any of these books.
Yes there may be more Muslims, but popularity of a superstition does not make it true. So, Once again I ask how is one superstition better than the other?
@joshkarandora I will take few minuets from your time , plz copy these and paste them in the top and watch them "Yusuf Estes - Science proves Quran is from Allah 1/7" , "Re: Iraqi TV Debate: Is the Earth Flat?","The Three Veils of Darkness"," "the Quran miracles" The relation between Qur'an & science (1/3)" , "Selected Miracles in the Quran (part 1)" , "RounD EartH in Quran"
I watched the Yusuf Estes & The Quran miracles. They where interesting, but they said nothing a Christian Apologist has not also claimed.
Furthermore, they talk about science, but they say nothing about the scientific method
I'm sorry but without a scientific method all you have is philosophy. Not science.
If you have something that talks specifically about how the Koran relates specifically to the scientific method I will consider watching it. But please don't wast my time on apologetics
@joshkarandora first ,I`m sorry for wasting your time but did you watch this "The Three Veils of Darkness" and this ""Selected Miracles in the Quran (part 1"
Second , may i ask you what r u ? Christian , jew or ...
Scientific evidence is that which serves to either support or counter a theory or hypothesis. Such evidence is expected to be empirical and properly documented in accordance with the scientific method.
The people in your movies had a valid hypothesis, but did not have evidence to support their claims.
For more information please look up Scientific Method on Wikipedia.
I am an Atheist, but I am willing to explore Islam if you can provide real scientific evidences from the Koran.
That fantastic ignoramus who goes by the name Yusuf Estes is the last person who should be talking about science.
"'...and after that He spread out the earth': He made it flat." -- 79:30
"'And the earth how it was laid out flat?' As for His words 'sutihat,' ‘laid out flat;’ this on a literal reading suggests that the earth is flat, which is the opinion of most of the scholars of the revealed Law, and not a sphere as astronomers have it." -- Tafsir al-Jalalayn, 88:20
I don't agree with his methodology regarding how he came to be a Muslim, however I respect his right to believe what he believes. I called myself a Christian, because I was born into a Christian family, however the whole religion stopped making sense when I started questioning it. I'm now a pagan pantheist, however I understand the absurdity of systems of belief without any valid supporting evidence. If it turns out my beliefs are wrong then I'm not going to fret.
darkblood777 1 month ago
why worship political leaders?
Wazztheweasel 2 months ago
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ravcey 7 months ago
Dear Ns9r & friends
I would like to correct you & all the others including Buddhists, by showing one of the most famous sayings by Lord Buddha
"Believe nothing just because a so-called wise person said it.
Believe nothing just because a belief is generally held.
Believe nothing just because it is said in ancient books.
Believe nothing just because it is said to be of divine origin.
Believe nothing just because someone else believes it.
Believe only what you yourself test and judge to be true".
ravcey 7 months ago
@ravcey So because of that saying of Lord Buddha, "a person who borns (in Sri Lanka) dose not become a Buddhist" !
Lord Buddha is NOT a God !! Its his teachings that we have to UNDERSTAND(without blindly following things one can not see) !!
One more Quote,
"In the sky, there is no distinction of east and west
people create distinctions out of their own minds
and then believe them to be true".
more Quotes of Lord Buddha visit (3*W.YouTube) /watch?v=AZdM_wYgF5M&feature=channel_video_title
ravcey 6 months ago
I think the whole video can be summed up: false dichotomy. Well you should be a muslim because christianity you just inherit.... (he even catches himself as he recognizes one of the faiths you're definitely born into in Israel sometimes is Islam). Doesn't recognize the fact that Buddhism or Jainism are more peaceful, or that atheism is also a decent alternative. Should live in and around Egypt, because California is more dangerous. What about Ohio? What about England? Very rambling.
Enginmaster 8 months ago
So... you're a person who wants to go with one of the ... popular faiths. Because other people have been forced into it, it must be awesome. Your first sentences make you realize none of them believe because it is actually reasonable, but just because of family tradition and the book verse that says if you are an apostate your family has to kill you. But you don't care? Try science. It actually does stuff! What is amazing about a person claiming to speak for god. Thousands in history claim to.
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MAYUR616 9 months ago
Islam is just as bullshit as Christianity. Everything you said about Christianity can be applied to Islam. It is just as fictional and mythical.
mcpencil 9 months ago
Check out "Sam Harris video on end of faith", I don´t know much about Islam, and I do not mean to be unpolished just think Sam Harris has a great point about global ethics.
juliolins 11 months ago
I thought this was a Non-religious video at first. You do realize that the exact same logic that you applied to Christianity can be applied to Islam and every other religion, right? The Quran is better written than the Bible or Torah and is more consistent in and of itself, but it's basically just the same inconsistent and non-sequitur logic, scare tactics, arbitrary rules, nonsensical theology, etc that both Christianity and Judaism have, just in a slightly different form.
Close but no cigar.
Gunderson002 11 months ago
THANK YOU for the invitation !! But I have to politely not accept your request.
I certainly dont feel qualified to speak about Islam but if your quotes and writings represent ISLAM .. my dear friend I have to suggest you to rethink your position and thoughts and beliefs.
Most of the video and agenda written for the video are quite questionable and not decisive in marking your belief as free from illusions.
ribangchak 1 year ago
there is no youtube but youtube... (wow that is amazing ....thats is. that makes perfect website wow. i started watching youtube it was amazing there is no youtube but youtube )
amilagmail 1 year ago
@amilagmail wow thats amazing
izlamiztruth 1 year ago
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i have a story book and it says its correct. so i u r saying i should belive that fairytale because it says so
what should i do????
amilagmail 1 year ago
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Mohammed's disciples killed for the faith; Jesus disciples were killed for their faith
Mo was the taker of life; Jesus was the giver of life
Mo & his warriors murdered thousands; J murdered none but saved many
Mo practiced FORCE; J preached FAITH
Mo said to the masses, "Convert or die!"; J said, "Believe and live!"
Mo preached "Death to the infidels!"; J prayed "Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do"
Mo constrained people by conquest; J constrained by love
garylg78 1 year ago
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garylg78 1 year ago
i dont know why people are this foolish???
why god send a massenger?
cant he talk to us directly???
is he shy???
u saying that stupid meaningless quote make coran true???
u said u studied religion. but u havent studied anything. buddha is not a god . even childs in sri lanka knows that
amilagmail 1 year ago
@amilagmail Who are you think you deserve to be talked by God directly. Even the Director of your company are not willing to talk to you personnally, why you think God should talk to you personally. Budha teach that everything can come back to being God if they have reach the enlighment (budha means the enlighted one). So yes, because sidharta already enlighted, he was consider God according to buddhist.
probokator 1 year ago
@probokator
nirvana is not being god. we are not trying to be any one. we are trying to stop being anyone. buddha is god??? where u learn ur buddhism?? mosque or church? do i need to ??
(i have a story book and it says its correct. so i u r saying i should belive that fairytale because it says so)
amilagmail 1 year ago
@amilagmail
next u said i dont deserve to talkd by god. i dont want to talk to foolish dumb imaginary person.
amilagmail 1 year ago
@amilagmail have studied budist enough to know, that buddhist teach that God is like a flame of the candle and the light emitting from it, is the material world. The purpose of buddism is to release from the suffering of the material world by not wanting anything so people can be enlighted and back to God, be part of God. Coz sidharta is already enlighted so he alrady part of God. If he was not, why the buddhist pray and ask him to fulfill their prayers.
probokator 1 year ago
@probokator
plese dont lecture me abt buddhism. buddha is not a god he is supreme human being. we worship him not becase we afraid of him or he orderd us. its paying respect to supreme human. without worship u can be godd buddhist.
enlighten does not mean being part of any god. plese dont take ur imaginary god into buddhism
buddhists do not pray if he do its ageinst buddhas teachings
amilagmail 1 year ago 2
@amilagmail
He is writing God with a capital G, when talking about Buddhism?
People are on the fence wether Buddhism is poly - or atheistic, but I never heard it to be monotheistic ..
Nederdien 1 year ago
did you ever think maybe no religion would be a rational choice
fkngtwat 1 year ago
People like you make me want to gag.
1954phyllis 1 year ago
I'm Buddhist. It's atheistic. That would be wise to correct. Thank you my friend.
tisserg 1 year ago
Salaam brother, great video and may Allah reward you for it.
slimshadythe2nd 1 year ago
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@slimshadythe2nd Allah is a false god.
1954phyllis 1 year ago
@1954phyllis that is your opinion....but if you dont like Allah then why exactly are you watching this video ?
slimshadythe2nd 1 year ago
@slimshadythe2nd That is a very good question.
1954phyllis 1 year ago
You forgot to mention, if you were born in a Islamic country, you would be Islamic. Try practicing another religion were islamic law is the law of the state. God is the same regardless if you are Christian, Muslim or Jew. You only differ in dogma. Like three brothers from the same Father! Personally, why not consider being open to protecting everyone's basic human rights than perserving a religious point of view. Freedom from religion means freedom of religion. Thank you.
KeniLeeBurgess 1 year ago
The problem with religion in general, is that none can really seperate itself from the rest.
All claim miraculous stories of their books creation, none of which are ever supported by evidence, or the god they claim exists.
All of them point to gaps in knowledge as their evidence for god, and all are eventually refuted and the only support for their religion are 'divine verses' in their books which are only divine when 'interpreted' to fit with modern knowledge and never before....
godlessmessiah 1 year ago
...all books claim theirs is the one true word and others are those of man, yet all of them still exist, as all of them are similar in writing styles and claims, which is interesting as to how a 'god' doesnt have a writing ability to surpass 'man', nor have a book in a universal language, nor write it himself, even though he supposedly created everything.
All religions can claim statistical 'wins' like being the oldest,most popular etc etc, but all fail to have one thing....truth.
godlessmessiah 1 year ago
Where this talk fails is where he tries to disassociate Osama bin Laden from Islam. Historically, the jihadists are following in the imperialist footsteps of Mohammed, and if anyone living today can be characterized as true muslims - those guys are it.
Gnomefro 1 year ago
@Gnomefro Islam is not terrorism ...tell me , why do you call muslim ,which has more than 140,000,000,000 fallers, are terrorists because a group of terrorists who called themselves muslim ? and why you do not call Christianity by terrorism because the greater Christian country in the world is killing the people in Iraq and Afghanistan , and supporting Israeli to kill Palestinians , plz do not judge on me if you do not know me
peace
Ns9r 1 year ago
I kind of liked this talk. I agree we should be frightened of realistic concerns.
You never really gave a good reason for switching your religion though. It seems like you just swapped one superstition for another.
I mean what compelling reason can you provide for Islam that a Christian couldn't also give.
A Christian would also say something similar to "There is no God but God". Just not using the same words
It can also be claimed that Jesus and Mohamed are analogs.
So, where is the benefit?
joshkarandora 1 year ago
@joshkarandora my friend , I `m not agree with u because i belief islam ,Christianity and Judaism is ONE message ... Christianity and judaism have been changed by humans but islam is different ... because it has a lot of evidences in KORAN ,especially scientific evidences and it is the only religion that do not guarantee the paradise ask your self why is islam the most growing religion? why Christians and jews are converting to islam but muslims do not ?
peace
Ns9r 1 year ago
@Ns9r
Jews would say the Torah has scientific evidences Christians would say the New Estimate has scientific evidences. Same with the Koran
Fact of the matter is, these books are not scientific evidences. To make this claim you must be able to use the scientific method to prove anything of importance in any of these books.
Yes there may be more Muslims, but popularity of a superstition does not make it true. So, Once again I ask how is one superstition better than the other?
joshkarandora 1 year ago
@joshkarandora I will take few minuets from your time , plz copy these and paste them in the top and watch them "Yusuf Estes - Science proves Quran is from Allah 1/7" , "Re: Iraqi TV Debate: Is the Earth Flat?","The Three Veils of Darkness"," "the Quran miracles" The relation between Qur'an & science (1/3)" , "Selected Miracles in the Quran (part 1)" , "RounD EartH in Quran"
peace
Ns9r 1 year ago
@Ns9r
I watched the Yusuf Estes & The Quran miracles. They where interesting, but they said nothing a Christian Apologist has not also claimed.
Furthermore, they talk about science, but they say nothing about the scientific method
I'm sorry but without a scientific method all you have is philosophy. Not science.
If you have something that talks specifically about how the Koran relates specifically to the scientific method I will consider watching it. But please don't wast my time on apologetics
joshkarandora 1 year ago
@joshkarandora first ,I`m sorry for wasting your time but did you watch this "The Three Veils of Darkness" and this ""Selected Miracles in the Quran (part 1"
Second , may i ask you what r u ? Christian , jew or ...
Ns9r 1 year ago
@Ns9r
The first two movies were great philosophy, but bad science.
I have to assume the others are as well.
If you disagree, please describe to me how the other movies describe a scientific process using the scientific method and I will watch it.
Otherwise, I do not have the time to watch every movie.
If you want to claim the Koran has scientific evidences you must show how the scientific method applies to the Koran.
Otherwise, it is just philosophy.
Thanks for trying.
joshkarandora 1 year ago
@joshkarandora philosophy!!!!! explain "scientific evidences" to me and you did not answer my Q are you Christian ?
Ns9r 1 year ago
Scientific evidence is that which serves to either support or counter a theory or hypothesis. Such evidence is expected to be empirical and properly documented in accordance with the scientific method.
The people in your movies had a valid hypothesis, but did not have evidence to support their claims.
For more information please look up Scientific Method on Wikipedia.
I am an Atheist, but I am willing to explore Islam if you can provide real scientific evidences from the Koran.
joshkarandora 1 year ago
@Ns9r
That fantastic ignoramus who goes by the name Yusuf Estes is the last person who should be talking about science.
"'...and after that He spread out the earth': He made it flat." -- 79:30
"'And the earth how it was laid out flat?' As for His words 'sutihat,' ‘laid out flat;’ this on a literal reading suggests that the earth is flat, which is the opinion of most of the scholars of the revealed Law, and not a sphere as astronomers have it." -- Tafsir al-Jalalayn, 88:20
ConsideringPhlebas 1 year ago
@ConsideringPhlebas The Bible does not say the the earth was laid out flat.
1954phyllis 1 year ago