This is NOT overunity. Magnets are stored energy. This is the extra input which amplifies the output. It takes energy to create a magnet. Think of it as a type of battery, that can't be used like the kind we normally know. It will over a very long period lose its magnetic field just like a charge in a battery if used this way. This device uses the magnetic ENERGY to increase the efficient potential of the input. This said however, this type of device is the future of efficient energy usage.
if this works, you could kenect them to each other generating more and more electricity for ever. eg, 100kw x 180% again and again. We will have more power than the sun in no time at all.
GOD.... its not Breaking the laws of Physics ... Its Utilizing the laws. It Breaks the Mindless programed thinking of those that Need this technology.
Its true that most things radiate energy, but this doesn't mean its free energy. Things like the sun were given energy by something else, and eventually will run out of energy unless more energy is given to it from something else. Although, simple logic tells thatthe
How about its maintenance? It becomes problem if we want to replace all the bearings, lubricants, and etc if you open the stator. The heat generates by the rotating part is hardly to dissipate except the motor had air gap or hydrogen.
100% of all free energy = SAAAAAAAAAAM. This guy is a as good as a magician. Poof! ELECTRICITY! HOMAYGWAD you are like the smartest freaking human to over walk this earth, why Einstein, oh man, he would BEG, BEEEGG of you to lend him a moment of your fancy time to teach him a thing or two about this gizmo-free-energy thingy.
You want free energy??? Stick a wind turbine in your behind, and letter rip!
How come everytime someone says they have over unity the don't unplug the initial power feed and attach the output to the input? If it keeps running you have over unity. If it doesn't you have bupkis.
@JRBeaman We all know that! But in this case it's not only more voltage, it's more amperage as well and in fact it isn't any breakage of the laws of physics, only the laws one is teaching at this moment, without taking into account the hidden energy available in the vacuum.
@peterweetbeter go back to studying the basic, there isnt hidden energy in the vaccum in fact there is no such thing as the vaccum of space wich is a old early idea at the beginning of the century before einstein,
you seem to have a very bad understanding of the universe,
secondly there is energy that travel from the sun trought photon, it isnt free in a physic term, but it is pretty limitless on a human lifespan scale, and it isprobably as free as it will ever get beside cold fision,
@peterweetbeter im actually working in lab for the canadian army, im a scientist before a musician, and its really sad to see people beleive there is actually a rabitt in the magician hat
but thanx for the comment, dont get me wrong i beleive science could get us somekind of free energy, trought reseach on cold fission, nuclear energy, solar etc, but certainly not with magnet wich the basic concept is flaw and intellectual masturbation when you understand why magnet cannot generate the power
@JRBeaman Some of you gullible people are really funny. Overunity is not possible. And if the fact that this video was posted in 2008 and the guy is still looking for "investors" should tell anyone with half a brain what's really going on here.
I wonder how hard it would be to get the gullible to invest in my patented Hamster Wheel free energy device? Hmmm...
what a load of shit it 2011 and i still haven seen a single product hit the market if this was completly true investors would be lining up outside your house
im telling u this cause for the past three years ive been telling every one about this dream i had of a magnetic generator using gravity and magnets u could also isolate the device in a vacume to get rid of air resistence. tour modle dosnt match my idea but is close
ok heres the deal if you show me a video of one unit powering five units i will invest all you need ,,,, but this must be shown and tested that the 20 % you suggested so that the test platform ,,, correct ? one unit pwers five stacked units and they in turn can have a harvested power to be determinded
Note that all I see here are amps being measured; at least that is what I suspect given it is being measured using clamp type meters and there is not much chance 0.21V can actually be good enough to power a motor like that.
The magic may well be a step down transformer; it decreases the voltage but increases the amperage.
Err, pardon me for asking but if the input power is less than the output, why do you need an input power at all? Just feed back the excess to the input!
@sorova Yes, you have spotted that this is a scam. It is far from a new one. The last time I checked, the web site for these guys was down. It is sort of sad to see how they are abusing those poor meters. They are fairly nice meters but they are intended for mains frequency work. When used as intended, they are quite accurate. If you feed them high frequencies or short pulses, they read all manner of nonsense. In another video, these same guys multiply average values and claim watts.
@sorova Because its just smoke and mirrors isn't it! It amazes me how so many people miss that obvious contradiction. Just need to send them some more money and it'll get fixed ;-)
@sorova Because it won't operate on it's own, you need to power it with something. One this technology is fine tuned, all the input needed will be a spin from our hand. We have to be able to turn it off somehow right, it can't just run producing 100% energy out of thin air.
@ThePineconeMaster Well I'm an Electrical engineer and you know what, I'm willing to bet you're measuring the efficiency wrong! This is especially the case when the waveforms are non sinusoidal.
Oh, I suppose it doesn't hurt to say it once again for those who are unfamiliar with this.
"Over-unity" devices are physically impossible. No, it isn't like when people have incorrectly said that in the past about proposed technologies. These things and perpetual motion machines are a violation of the laws of thermodynamics. People have been trying to build (and sell) them for a couple hundred years. They will NEVER succeed, because it is impossible.
@Astrobrant2 Also: specific to this scam. Those poor meters are being seriously abused. They are very nice meters for mains frequency work. When used as intended, they are quite accurate. If you feed them high frequencies and short pulses, they read all manner of nonsense.
In another video, these same folks multiply average current times average voltage and try to suggest that the result is meaningful. It is one heck of a coincidence that the measurement errors they make always favor them
@knowledgemonger You have to admit, though. These are some clever contraptions and look like lots of fun to think about and make. Just as long as people aren't trying to bilk others out of their money.
@Astrobrant2 These are not as clever as they could be. Consider the double resonant secondary on a Tesla coil. Now that is a very clever idea. Just by making the primary and the the two secondaries just right, you can arrange for the side band frequencies to end up in phase at the maximum. The result is huge output voltages.
@Astrobrant2 The thing is though it doesn't violate the laws of physics if you consider how it works. It is not as if 5W goes in and magically 50W comes out. There is no "something from nothing" claim at work here, it's something from something. The entire principal of this is the same as any other pulse motor. It requires a small amount of energy to disrupt the magnetic field inside which causes magnets inside to throw themselves into motion. It doesn't violate any laws of anything.
@trippinlikegod It is advertised as "over-unity." That means that it makes more power than it requires. The video said it delivers 1250 watts with only an input of 210 watts. Transformers and magnetos can do that with voltage, but there is a trade-off. It CAN'T be done with watts (power).
@sorova input voltage and current are correct, but output frequency is out of range of the meter design area. Therefore you can't trust the results. They are also not considering phase angle, which must be compared to accurately calculate the energy.
its possible to make magnets do half of the work since normally when you alternate current from lets say a battery you provide both directions to make the ac wave form, but if you pulse the current only in one direction and use a permanet magnet for the opposite direction when you induce one half cycle in to the transformer with the magnet present the permanent magnetic field deform and when you stop the input current as a pulse the magnet provide the opposite direction and you have ac.
@coldarc You can't make magnets do any fraction of the work. Your idea fails because during the half cycle that the electrical power is being used, a fraction of the energy is being stored in the magnetic fields. The energy that comes out when the power is not being input is just this stored energy. The magnets don't add anything useful. They actually cause some increased losses because there are some losses from the changing fields.
@knowledgemonger a changeing magnetic field itself does not produce current. is the wave that follow the change that interfer with electrons that induce currents. the more you make a change in a magnetic field the more it behave as a wave the more currents you get. electromagnetic waves are not electromagnetic, they are kinetic. the idea is to make the magnet oppose the induced magnetic field preventing storage. you cant take the currents out in the same coil than induced it in this case.
@coldarc I think you may be trying to explain something that I have known for a very long time but you explanation is so unclear that it is hard to tell.
It still doesn't let you use magnets to do any fraction of the work. The field of the magnet merely adds a constant to the field. The rate of change in the field is not effected.
@knowledgemonger a fast change in the density of a gas or a solid can induce kinetic waves that your volt meter detect as currents. it can be a temperature fluctuation but the nature of all kinetic waves are of sound. and sound is changeing force gradients. the sound you hear can´t go into space but the energy of it can, and be picked up as electromagnetic induction.
@traumCat Yes we need to get greener and off oil. But lets not F over each other with this and other scams. If you bought this crap and it couldn't charge your cell phone you would be so piss off. Oh the little black things that hold up the meters are called capacitors. Caps hold a charge. After being charged, you put a slow drain on it can fool you.
People here with negative comments are not intelligent. Regardless of how this is working, if they have found a way to pull power from 'the vacuum' or not, it is technology such as this that we need to focus on developing. 'Green Energy' is the real scam. We need to get away from reliance of fossil fuels and focus on 'future tech'. Don't focus on the 'outrageous' claims you might find, and don't focus on debunking it. That is the wrong atitude, and that is why we are still stuck sucking oil
@TraumaCat People who post in support of a obvious scam are not intelligent. This machine doesn't work and can't work. The method used to make the meters misread is fairly obvious if you look up the specs on the meters. In another video these same folks multiply average current times average voltage and pretend that the result is power.
It wouldn't surprise me to discover that faked up videos like this are put up by the oil companies to send people up blind alleys.
"Permanent" magnets are not permanent. They have a set amount of energy within them, stored as a magnetic field. As this energy is extracted, the magnet weakens until it is no longer capable of driving whatever it is that it's driving. It is best to view such a magnet as a type of battery and, as we all know, no battery lasts forever.
u shouldn't claim that it's breaking the laws of physics. wow a lotta other ppl already said that. sorry i'm not trying to break u down or anything. but no laws are broken.
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I bought one of these machines and use it to heat my unicorn pens. I'll be harvesting the unicorn horns next spring (they make great aphrodisiacs). Please message me and I'll send it to you, it's only $100/g and I guarantee it works. Trust me.
@CommonBelief The machine doesn't do what is claimed. In this video, they are abusing meters in a way that makes them read nonsense. In another video, they multiply averages and claim that the result means something.
lololol I like how most of the vids for overunity have comments disabled~ why? cuz it's impossible due to losses with heat, friction, other forces, etc.
@uncopino A [cough]Transistor[/cough] can output more than input. Noone knows why yet its a quantum thing - still getting looked at. The effect makes audio amplifiers cell towers work. Google Calculate Transistor Output - see the pdf from Ohio State Uni(page 4). See also YouTube lego perpetual motion.
A [cough]Transistor[/cough] can output more than input. Noone knows why yet its a quantum thing - still getting looked at. The effect makes audio amplifiers cell towers work. Google Calculate Transistor Output - see the pdf from Ohio State Uni(page 4). See also YouTube lego perpetual motion.
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LOL "the sun produces energy from a limitless vacuum", and it's said with such a very assuredly honest voice. very funny! the sun, hydrogen to helium.
have you figured out a final price yet...i was considering building one myself but im thinking to order the magnets shell and the time alone it would take to design and build really wouldnt be worth it.....but i dont understand why there is any imput...thought someone figured out a way to run a magnetic motor of an opposite mag field...seen a few videos with no power source...then again idk if they have the torque to turn a genorator
It's amazing what you can find in 5 minutes on Google:
2001 - Lutec, the $100,000 challenge from the Australian skeptics but eventually backs out.
2001 - Lutec wins the "Bent Spoon Award" (also awarded by the Aust. skeptics)
Ever wondered why they say that they are seeking investment from "Sophisticated Investors"? Requiring "sophisticated investors" is a way of circumventing the legal requirement for a company to issue a prospectus if it wants to sell shares.
If you're really measuring a power increase I'd be willing to bet it's due to capacitive or inductive phase shifting causing the power factor to change.
But my money is on this being a complete scam rather than the product of ignorant yet basically honest people.
It's funny how they always claim that it is "just about" to go into production, any day now. They've been saying that for several hundred years.
If people were more scientifically literate, scam artists like this wouldn't exist.
@tvsinesperanto You cannot light up 900 watt bulbs only by phase shifting or influencing or changing the impedance of an electrical circuit. There must be a power source and in this case it is what we call "the vacuum"
@peterweetbeter Of course there is a power source, it's your input power, the power you are feeding into the system. Feed that power into your globe without going through your "device" and it will light up. Get it to light without putting any power in, then I'll be willing to consider that you may have something.
BTW, the part in the description about the sun radiating into space therefore vacuum must contain energy is a joke. If you believe that you have a seriously poor grasp of physics.
@tvsinesperanto You cannot light up 900 watt bulbs only by phase shifting or influencing or changing the impedance of an electrical circuit. There must be a power source and in this case it is what we call "the vacuum"
If you think that the fact that stars and quasars emit energy into space means that the vacuum has energy in it then you do not understand physics very well.
it probably works!but like the gms own ev-1 all the industry and politician are scared shitless of the oil industry .various invention like these abound and most popular one get baught by oil industry .since they DONT WANT IT TO BE RESEARCHED AND BECOME POPULAR FOR NOW ITS JUST AMATEUR .but if scientist really looked into it and think about it?imagine a bikethere are two wheel !would it be that hard to generate more power.wheel of different size!so generator can be bigger then the electricmotor
@drbaltazar The thing in the video is just a prop for a scam. This is not an invention. It just flat doesn't do what is claimed. Scams like this actually help to keep us dependent on oil for our energy. People who waste time and money on this won't go looking for something real. It really wouldn't surprise me to discover that oil companies were putting up videos like this just to spread confusion among those who would like to get off oil.
If it amplifies the input electricity five times why just save 80%? Why not take 20% of the output and feed it into the input and save 100%? If it is not possible to feed the output of the machine into the input of itself, feed it into another machine and get an amplification of 25 times which would save 97.5%. And so on.
"The sun is radiating all its energy into the vacuum, all stars, galaxies, quasars, everything is radiating energy. This means the vacuum cannot be empty thus containing a lot of 'hidden' energy"
Honestly? That's the dumbest crap I've ever heard. If you're trying to explain "vacuum energy", you totally got it wrong. Go open a quantum physics book and look up "vacuum energy" and spare us your blatant ignorance. It has nothing to do with energy that comes out of the stars etc. :-)
"The sun is radiating all its energy into the vacuum, all stars, galaxies, quasars, everything is radiating energy. This means the vacuum cannot be empty thus containing a lot of 'hidden' energy"
Honestly? That's the dumbest crap I've ever heard. If you're trying to explain "vacuum energy", you totally got it wrong. Go open a quantum physics book and look up "vacuum energy" and spare us your blatant ignorance. It has nothing to do with energy that comes out of the stars etc. :-)
I believe it can work with a relationship between permanent and electromagnetic timing. A small laptop can control this.I think that's the key to how this technology exists...
@radarrunner1 Many people believe that things like this can work. They are all wrong, but you are in good company. Unfortunately, physics forbids things like this from working. There is no combination of motion of magnetic poles that can ever create energy. Since they are claiming more energy out than in, they are claiming some was created. This is clearly nonsense but that is the meaning of their claims.
@knowledgemonger Actually they exsist everywere. You just don't see them because it is the idiots that go public. Governments around the world surpress knowledge and sale of these types of machines. You can't learn how to build one off YouTube, but you can learn how to build them. You just gotta have the years to do it and the ability to get past the so called "laws" of physics.
@DV7Dave I understand the physics of magnets. Trust me none of the machines are real. There is no world wide 100% perfect conspiracy to suppress them. They just flat don't work.
It is actually a good thing that it can't work because if it could we would not be here. The gathering cloud of gas that formed the galaxy would have had that action between the hydrogen atoms from time to time. This would have prevented the atoms for gathering into clumps.
@DV7Dave And I suppose that if I ask for some evidence of these devices that "exist everywhere" you'll claim that the total lack of evidence proves that the government conspiracy exists, right?
A device already exists to power your house for free. It’s called Solar for those new to this game. What it does is it uses photovoltaic cells to convert light energy into electricity lol. It does this at a generally low efficiency (in my case 13-15% in good sunlight, much worse in low light). Solar can cost shit loads to setup of course. But over time (6 years in my case) can pay for itself and profit.
Corporations dont stop the Lutec, the laws of physics do lol. Dam you laws of physics!
Btw I have a UFO in my back yard, you can come and check it out. But I must let you know you cannot see it, smell it, taste it, feel it or hear it. In fact there is no known sensory device that can detect its presence, but trust me its there ;)
Any student that has spent ten minutes in Physics 101 will tell you this cannot work. It violates the Law of Conservation of Energy - there's more output energy than input. It's like 2+2=5. It's impossible. This is complete bullshit.
@NilsMepils There is absolutely no doubt that the folks in this video are scammers. The meters are being used /abused in a way that causes them to produce bogus values. The machine does no break the laws of physics because it simply is a prop for a scam.
The idea that you can get energy from a magnetic field and still have the field left when you are done is like thinking that you can take water out of a bucket and have it remain full. It simply can't happen in real life.
@NilsMepils (Specific to the other video) Meters of that sort are intended for mains frequency work. They are quite accurate when used as intended. It is a known limitation of them that they become increasingly inaccurate as the frequency is raised or you move away from smooth waveforms to short pulses.
Abusing a Watt meter of that type with short pulses can make them read far less than the actual power. This is what the video actually appears to show.
@NilsMepils Magnets have a very little amount of energy stored. It takes a minute worth of heat from a candle to negate the potential energy of a magnet. Once those domains realign, there is no more magnetism. The domains in a magnet are misaligned due to initial energy input to misalign them. How can you get enough torque from a magnetic system generate power if the amount of energy pulled from the magnets is 4 times the original input amount? The magnets would be dead in minutes.
@NilsMepils Crap. The laws of thermodynamics aren't based on assumptions & if we were wrong about them, every single device ever built would fail to work as predicted.
What areas break the 2nd LoT? System entropy never decreases, ever.
Yes, I know the Casimir effect. So what? It doesn't break any LoT. It deals exclusively with quantized fields & is impractical on a macro scale.
We don't know everything, but there's a big difference between a new discovery & actually contravening known laws
@NilsMepils 1) Obviously space-time effects everything in some way but, as far as I am aware (I'm not a professional physicist but I have studied physics extensively), it has no effect on thermodynamics that would render the laws void. At least not on a macro level.
2) We know that space-time is NOT flat & that mass bends it for about 100yrs.
3) The point is moot anyway because, if we had it wrong, none of the machines we have ever designed based on the LoT would work properly.
@NilsMepils Yes, due to Hiesenberg's uncertainty principle, on a quantum scale it APPEARS that the 2nd LoT can be breached but that's far from confirmed &, even if it is eventually confirmed, it's still reliant on the assumption that the universe is a closed system which may not be true. It's quite possible that the virtual particles in the quantum foam are just "borrowing" the energy required to appear from another universe or dimension & returning it when they disappear again.
@NilsMepils Of course, none of this affects whether or not OU is possible.
I'm willing to admit that it MAY turn out not to be technically impossible to obtain "free" energy on a quantum scale but, on a macro scale, it's bunk.
BTW, I say "free" in quotes because it probably wouldn't really be free (i.e. created from nothing). IF it ever panned out (a BIG if) it would likely just be tapping into an, as yet, poorly understood energy source & so wouldn't breach the 1st LoT.
@NilsMepils Even in the quantum scale, the amount of energy involved is absolutely infinitesimal (10^-34 Joules range), barely enough for even the most sensitive Atomic Force Microscope to detect. Add the fact that it requires incredibly fiddly equipment to achieve the correct setup & you have a situation where it's not even close to being a practical energy source.
But I really can't be bothered debating it with you any more. If you think it's viable, send them your money. No skin off my nose.
@tvsinesperanto What if we are surounded by energy but we cannot see it.. And if we want we could tap into it.. Like we were swimming in the ocean and had the means to convert water into electrical power.. would this be free energy ?
@NilsMepils Well, you see it all depends on whether or not the energy is dissipated in some way when we use it. Everything we mow about energy & the LoTs, says that it's impossible to do work without using energy. So, whatever the source of the energy, if we tap into it to do work, at least some of it gets "used" (in technical terms it increases entropy). This is wholly in line with the 2nd LoT.
@NilsMepils Of course, that doesn't mean that there isn't some almost infinite universal energy source pervading space that can be tapped into, but doing so would, by definition, lower the amount of energy remaining & increase system entropy. In practical terms, this may not matter but it doesn't breach the LoT.
Still, leaders in the field aren't even close to discovering anything like this & there aren't even any indications that something like this even exists.
@NilsMepils This is why I'm always highly skeptical when I hear about some "self taught" (read: No training whatsoever) "genius" who has managed to discover it. Especially when they seem unable or unwilling to present any sort of formal paper on it for peer review, can't offer an explanation of how it works, can't replicate the effect under controlled conditions, & refuses to allow competent 3rd party inspection.
Peer review is everything in science, without it, I'm just not convinced.
@tvsinesperanto Even with peer review, I don't take it as settled. Peer review only means that others who know the subject didn't see an error in the paper. It doesn't protect against fraud or errors that are very hard to spot.
That said, in this case we don't even get close to something that can be peer reviewed. The meters are not being used in a way that makes their readings trustworthy. Meters of this sort are intended for mains frequency work. When used as intended they are good.
@knowledgemonger I agree with you about peer review to a certain degree. There have been a few high profile examples of people intentionally trying to defraud the scientific community with some success (Hwang Woo-Suk & Schön for example) but, in general, it's a pretty good system & is rarely circumvented.
I think that independent replication should be required before things are widely accepted though. This is already the case to some degree but I'd like to see it formalised.
@knowledgemonger Formalising that would all but eliminate the possibility of fraudulent claims, even unintentional ones.
"mains...work."
Yes, you're right. I checked the meters out & they are True RMS meters made by "Center", typically used for Mains work. I don't think there's enough info in the vid to tell if they are being misused though. What makes you say they are?
I think they've just switched output & input for the vid. I doubt they really think it works, they are just scammers IMHO.
@tvsinesperanto I believe based on this video and others by the same folks that the current and voltage involved is far from a constant sine wave. In one of the other videos, you can see obvious sparking of a contact.
@knowledgemonger Ahhh, I see. Yes, that is gross abuse of the meters. They won't give anything like an accurate measurement under conditions like that.
Surely they must be aware of that? They couldn't be THAT naive could they? Gotta be intentional.
@tvsinesperanto Professor Konstantin Meyl a german have replicated some of Teslas work and he has stated that there is overunity effect by a factor of 10...
@NilsMepils Well, as I say above, until it's been peer reviewed, it didn't happen. That's the default position of science & one that has set it in good stead for 300 years or more. Anyone can state anything, unless you've got the proof, you've got no game.
@NilsMepils Sorry for the empty reply. Accidentally hit "Post". Damn iPad.
Yes, I am familiar with Tesla's work. There is no doubt that he was brilliant, there is no doubt that he contributed greatly to our understanding of electricity & electromagnetic fields. However, there is also no doubt that, towards the end of his career, he made some pretty outlandish claims that he was unable to replicate or back up with evidence.
@NilsMepils The fact that he made these claims during a period when he was in financial troubles & was trying to attract new investors, may have just been a coincidence but, then again, maybe it wasn't. It probably wasn't.
Tesla is a magnet (pardon the pun) for every crackpot conspiracy theorist & perpetual motion proponent on the planet. They all claim, without a scrap of evidence mind you, that Tesla succeeded in building *insert name of magic device here* but...
the government swore him to secrecy, or it was bought by oil companies, or he was killed to stop him producing it, or any one of a dozen other, equally unsupported, claims.
Of course, that's not to say that Tesla wasn't working on some legitimate stuff too (wireless transmission of power for example), but the claims that say he invented some hyper-advanced, physics-defying devices, are unsupported by any evidence that I'm aware of & are, almost certainly, pure bunk.
I invented a breakthrough source of energy that contradicts the law of conservation of energy. I have a PROOF that there are electrodynamic phenomena that contradict the law of conservation of energy. I am looking for $6M for a prototype and patents.
its funny- I first saw this scam in 2003 and commented at the time on the sssf forums
it was `6 months away' then- and has been ever since
altho I must say that if he is telling the truth- lutec has certainly been a nice little earner for him over the years- about 150 grand (australian dollars) a year each that has all been used for `research' (I would say quite a bit of that `research' was invested in researching the effects of XXXX on the effect of personal happyness...
The guy can't even make sense in his own video. He says it only uses 20% as much power as it produces, so it will save 80% of your power bill? WTF? If it makes MORE energy then it uses, then you wouldn't need ANY power bill! You could disconnect from the grid all together or even better SELL your extra power BACK to the grid. That people still fall for this shit is staggering!
@andyb2389 a university education doesnt mean you know anything relevant, it just means that you went through a system...... and you absorbed exactly what people wanted you to absorb......... and you are simply a product of a system and so is your method of thinking. Im not trying to be rude, I respect you and Im sure you are a very nice person, I just dont believe in public education. peace to you.
Over-unity does not work. It simply does not. Either these people are deliberate frauds, or they do not know how to take measurements ( which I doubt ).
I hate to break it to you but you havent got a clue most people dont they have been fed a line by education not only is it possible but you will see it as soon as those of us who know how to makje it can get the cash
I hate to break.. O wait I do not. Look, there is NO conspiracy as far as the laws of physics go. IF the fundamental laws need to be revisited I will not be due to some ( not very unique ) idea/ invention from some wacko's garage and It will be a minor adjustment at most.
Even if these machines did half what is claimed ( which they do not ), I'd have several severe ethical issues with the 123122 inventors who refuse to virally distribute the schematic to break this "conspiracy". Izza scam !
Dark matter? Dark energy? Inflation? There are main stream scientists who would argue that current physics is in need of a lot more than a 'minor adjustment'.
Those are not even items that touch the laws of thermodynamics in a way that is relevant here. Before screaming all sorts of jargon at me you got from science fiction shows, you might want to check out such random tidbits as scientific methods and the actual FUCKING TOPIC!.
If you do actually insist making an argument out of ignorance, then be prepared to be treated with ruthless scepticism usually reserved for fundies and faith-heads.
'If the fundamental laws need to be revisited...it will be a minor adjustment at most.' If a major rethink is needed of mainstream ideas such as dark matter et al, then it's not unnreasonable to ask questions about over-unity's supposed impossibilty. The laws of thermodynamics don't prohibit a system from having infinite energy. At the risk of using jargon, Dirac's original equation of the electron contains an infinitely large sea of negative energy.
The machine shown in the video doesn't do what is claimed. The folks involved are known scammers. The meters in this video are being abused in a way that makes their readings wildly inaccurate. In another video with the same folks they multiply numbers that they have no business multiplying and then try to claim that the product is meaningful.
This is NOT overunity. Magnets are stored energy. This is the extra input which amplifies the output. It takes energy to create a magnet. Think of it as a type of battery, that can't be used like the kind we normally know. It will over a very long period lose its magnetic field just like a charge in a battery if used this way. This device uses the magnetic ENERGY to increase the efficient potential of the input. This said however, this type of device is the future of efficient energy usage.
sydneygordonhill 2 weeks ago
if this works, you could kenect them to each other generating more and more electricity for ever. eg, 100kw x 180% again and again. We will have more power than the sun in no time at all.
adrianwillis360 1 month ago
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eithanyakobi 1 month ago
INPUT: 0.21A, 230V => 48W
your machine could be like 80% effective at max (I'm flattering you right now).
OUTPUT: 1.23A, 30V => 36W
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abm3152 4 months ago
and i need a hug :(
WilAzzamEdison 4 months ago
GOD.... its not Breaking the laws of Physics ... Its Utilizing the laws. It Breaks the Mindless programed thinking of those that Need this technology.
WilAzzamEdison 4 months ago 3
@WilAzzamEdison Of course, its utilising the (still unknown to all our physicists) laws of the universe.
peterweetbeter 4 months ago
Its true that most things radiate energy, but this doesn't mean its free energy. Things like the sun were given energy by something else, and eventually will run out of energy unless more energy is given to it from something else. Although, simple logic tells thatthe
pyroboy08 4 months ago
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snathanmax 2 months ago
Why do these demonstrations always have messy wires so that no one can trace them?
jeabo0adhd 5 months ago
We're not taking orders as of yet (because they don't actually work) and we are currently (scamming) investors to further our (diabolical scheme)
FIXED!
Xero555000 6 months ago
How about its maintenance? It becomes problem if we want to replace all the bearings, lubricants, and etc if you open the stator. The heat generates by the rotating part is hardly to dissipate except the motor had air gap or hydrogen.
HentamPKR 6 months ago
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HentamPKR 6 months ago
100% of all free energy = SAAAAAAAAAAM. This guy is a as good as a magician. Poof! ELECTRICITY! HOMAYGWAD you are like the smartest freaking human to over walk this earth, why Einstein, oh man, he would BEG, BEEEGG of you to lend him a moment of your fancy time to teach him a thing or two about this gizmo-free-energy thingy.
You want free energy??? Stick a wind turbine in your behind, and letter rip!
a4ol 6 months ago 6
@a4ol Wake up, Sheaple!
peterweetbeter 6 months ago
@peterweetbeter This is your device?
When's the fraud hearing?
slamdrump 5 months ago
How come everytime someone says they have over unity the don't unplug the initial power feed and attach the output to the input? If it keeps running you have over unity. If it doesn't you have bupkis.
longhorndb 6 months ago
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What really amazes me is that these people really believe they have a breakthru.
JRBeaman 6 months ago
All over unity claims are backed by bad math or bad or bad measurement techniques.
More voltage out than voltage in is not a power gain.
You may be able to sell it to a neophite, but it's still a lie..
JRBeaman 7 months ago
@JRBeaman We all know that! But in this case it's not only more voltage, it's more amperage as well and in fact it isn't any breakage of the laws of physics, only the laws one is teaching at this moment, without taking into account the hidden energy available in the vacuum.
peterweetbeter 6 months ago
@peterweetbeter More voltage does not guarantee more amperage.
I use 120v in the US, and they use 240v in the uk.
which uses the most amperage?
If you believe it is taking energy in the vacuum, then you need to go to school, as you obviously haven't.
Higher voltage only means higher amperage under the same load.
The loads are different here, and unspecified, so your claim is made without facts.
JRBeaman 6 months ago
@JRBeaman
Higher the voltage, the lower its current... Basic Ohm' Law...
HentamPKR 6 months ago
@peterweetbeter This entire "vacuum energy" thing is a complete bunch of baloney !
a1mint 6 months ago
@peterweetbeter go back to studying the basic, there isnt hidden energy in the vaccum in fact there is no such thing as the vaccum of space wich is a old early idea at the beginning of the century before einstein,
you seem to have a very bad understanding of the universe,
secondly there is energy that travel from the sun trought photon, it isnt free in a physic term, but it is pretty limitless on a human lifespan scale, and it isprobably as free as it will ever get beside cold fision,
lapmarty 5 months ago
@lapmarty I listened to your composition "piece sans nom". It's very good, I like it. So one can say: every man to his trade.
peterweetbeter 5 months ago
@peterweetbeter im actually working in lab for the canadian army, im a scientist before a musician, and its really sad to see people beleive there is actually a rabitt in the magician hat
but thanx for the comment, dont get me wrong i beleive science could get us somekind of free energy, trought reseach on cold fission, nuclear energy, solar etc, but certainly not with magnet wich the basic concept is flaw and intellectual masturbation when you understand why magnet cannot generate the power
lapmarty 5 months ago
@JRBeaman Some of you gullible people are really funny. Overunity is not possible. And if the fact that this video was posted in 2008 and the guy is still looking for "investors" should tell anyone with half a brain what's really going on here.
I wonder how hard it would be to get the gullible to invest in my patented Hamster Wheel free energy device? Hmmm...
JustDiploid 6 months ago
@JustDiploid Why are you replying to me with "Some of you gullible people ". Maybe your reading comprehension is suffering?
JRBeaman 6 months ago
Oh yea? Well... Tony Stark shrunk this thing down and stuck it in his chest... so there! LOL
CadaverGTR 6 months ago
what a load of shit it 2011 and i still haven seen a single product hit the market if this was completly true investors would be lining up outside your house
silageman 7 months ago
Have you got some units available for sale?
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ozzzieau 7 months ago
Have you got some units available for sale?
sales@aw2e.us
ozzzieau 7 months ago
Chuck some of its generated power back into itself and stick it in your car! w00t!
I've never ran a car on snake oil before.
m1aws 7 months ago
were did you actually get this video from?
camomantube 8 months ago
im telling u this cause for the past three years ive been telling every one about this dream i had of a magnetic generator using gravity and magnets u could also isolate the device in a vacume to get rid of air resistence. tour modle dosnt match my idea but is close
wr92117 8 months ago
u could use gravity to start it instead of battery power like a pendulum
wr92117 8 months ago
@wr92117 Lol, I once tried using pendulum effect, but i ended up right back where i started.
remarkphotography 6 months ago
dose it produce more then it consumes. have u tried making the device lighter make less resistence i suck at spelling
wr92117 8 months ago
you still need a battery lame
wr92117 8 months ago
@wr92117 Only to start the device of course.
peterweetbeter 8 months ago
ok heres the deal if you show me a video of one unit powering five units i will invest all you need ,,,, but this must be shown and tested that the 20 % you suggested so that the test platform ,,, correct ? one unit pwers five stacked units and they in turn can have a harvested power to be determinded
lesterclaypool1 10 months ago
I will invest 1 million us dollars if I can test a prototype for myself.
coolestdude80 10 months ago
Note that all I see here are amps being measured; at least that is what I suspect given it is being measured using clamp type meters and there is not much chance 0.21V can actually be good enough to power a motor like that.
The magic may well be a step down transformer; it decreases the voltage but increases the amperage.
Care to show both V and A as well?
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prime342 11 months ago
Err, pardon me for asking but if the input power is less than the output, why do you need an input power at all? Just feed back the excess to the input!
sorova 11 months ago 10
@sorova Yes, you have spotted that this is a scam. It is far from a new one. The last time I checked, the web site for these guys was down. It is sort of sad to see how they are abusing those poor meters. They are fairly nice meters but they are intended for mains frequency work. When used as intended, they are quite accurate. If you feed them high frequencies or short pulses, they read all manner of nonsense. In another video, these same guys multiply average values and claim watts.
knowledgemonger 11 months ago
@sorova Because its just smoke and mirrors isn't it! It amazes me how so many people miss that obvious contradiction. Just need to send them some more money and it'll get fixed ;-)
theslimeylimey 10 months ago
@sorova Because it won't operate on it's own, you need to power it with something. One this technology is fine tuned, all the input needed will be a spin from our hand. We have to be able to turn it off somehow right, it can't just run producing 100% energy out of thin air.
ThePineconeMaster 1 month ago
@ThePineconeMaster Well I'm an Electrical engineer and you know what, I'm willing to bet you're measuring the efficiency wrong! This is especially the case when the waveforms are non sinusoidal.
sorova 1 month ago
invisable needles to smal to see with the naked eye shooting with remote controll to my heart area
kryptonite888888 1 year ago
Oh, I suppose it doesn't hurt to say it once again for those who are unfamiliar with this.
"Over-unity" devices are physically impossible. No, it isn't like when people have incorrectly said that in the past about proposed technologies. These things and perpetual motion machines are a violation of the laws of thermodynamics. People have been trying to build (and sell) them for a couple hundred years. They will NEVER succeed, because it is impossible.
This is, and always will be a scam.
Astrobrant2 1 year ago
@Astrobrant2 Also: specific to this scam. Those poor meters are being seriously abused. They are very nice meters for mains frequency work. When used as intended, they are quite accurate. If you feed them high frequencies and short pulses, they read all manner of nonsense.
In another video, these same folks multiply average current times average voltage and try to suggest that the result is meaningful. It is one heck of a coincidence that the measurement errors they make always favor them
knowledgemonger 1 year ago
@knowledgemonger You have to admit, though. These are some clever contraptions and look like lots of fun to think about and make. Just as long as people aren't trying to bilk others out of their money.
LONG LIVE TESLA!!!
[sheesh]
Astrobrant2 1 year ago
@Astrobrant2 These are not as clever as they could be. Consider the double resonant secondary on a Tesla coil. Now that is a very clever idea. Just by making the primary and the the two secondaries just right, you can arrange for the side band frequencies to end up in phase at the maximum. The result is huge output voltages.
knowledgemonger 1 year ago
@knowledgemonger I could see this kind of thing being a required group project for engineering students. It has a kind of Rube Goldberg charm to it.
Astrobrant2 1 year ago
@Astrobrant2 The thing is though it doesn't violate the laws of physics if you consider how it works. It is not as if 5W goes in and magically 50W comes out. There is no "something from nothing" claim at work here, it's something from something. The entire principal of this is the same as any other pulse motor. It requires a small amount of energy to disrupt the magnetic field inside which causes magnets inside to throw themselves into motion. It doesn't violate any laws of anything.
trippinlikegod 1 year ago
@trippinlikegod It is advertised as "over-unity." That means that it makes more power than it requires. The video said it delivers 1250 watts with only an input of 210 watts. Transformers and magnetos can do that with voltage, but there is a trade-off. It CAN'T be done with watts (power).
"Over unity" and "free energy" are impossible.
Astrobrant2 1 year ago 2
@trippinlikegod They are probably measuring the input power wrong. It is pulsed after all.
sorova 11 months ago
@sorova input voltage and current are correct, but output frequency is out of range of the meter design area. Therefore you can't trust the results. They are also not considering phase angle, which must be compared to accurately calculate the energy.
JRBeaman 6 months ago
its possible to make magnets do half of the work since normally when you alternate current from lets say a battery you provide both directions to make the ac wave form, but if you pulse the current only in one direction and use a permanet magnet for the opposite direction when you induce one half cycle in to the transformer with the magnet present the permanent magnetic field deform and when you stop the input current as a pulse the magnet provide the opposite direction and you have ac.
coldarc 1 year ago
@coldarc You can't make magnets do any fraction of the work. Your idea fails because during the half cycle that the electrical power is being used, a fraction of the energy is being stored in the magnetic fields. The energy that comes out when the power is not being input is just this stored energy. The magnets don't add anything useful. They actually cause some increased losses because there are some losses from the changing fields.
knowledgemonger 1 year ago
@knowledgemonger a changeing magnetic field itself does not produce current. is the wave that follow the change that interfer with electrons that induce currents. the more you make a change in a magnetic field the more it behave as a wave the more currents you get. electromagnetic waves are not electromagnetic, they are kinetic. the idea is to make the magnet oppose the induced magnetic field preventing storage. you cant take the currents out in the same coil than induced it in this case.
coldarc 1 year ago
@coldarc I think you may be trying to explain something that I have known for a very long time but you explanation is so unclear that it is hard to tell.
It still doesn't let you use magnets to do any fraction of the work. The field of the magnet merely adds a constant to the field. The rate of change in the field is not effected.
knowledgemonger 1 year ago
@knowledgemonger a fast change in the density of a gas or a solid can induce kinetic waves that your volt meter detect as currents. it can be a temperature fluctuation but the nature of all kinetic waves are of sound. and sound is changeing force gradients. the sound you hear can´t go into space but the energy of it can, and be picked up as electromagnetic induction.
coldarc 1 year ago
in march 2008 ??? well we're in 2011 now ...where's your device huh ?
theREALmegaverse 1 year ago
@traumCat Yes we need to get greener and off oil. But lets not F over each other with this and other scams. If you bought this crap and it couldn't charge your cell phone you would be so piss off. Oh the little black things that hold up the meters are called capacitors. Caps hold a charge. After being charged, you put a slow drain on it can fool you.
1REDDAWN13 1 year ago
People here with negative comments are not intelligent. Regardless of how this is working, if they have found a way to pull power from 'the vacuum' or not, it is technology such as this that we need to focus on developing. 'Green Energy' is the real scam. We need to get away from reliance of fossil fuels and focus on 'future tech'. Don't focus on the 'outrageous' claims you might find, and don't focus on debunking it. That is the wrong atitude, and that is why we are still stuck sucking oil
TraumaCat 1 year ago
@TraumaCat People who post in support of a obvious scam are not intelligent. This machine doesn't work and can't work. The method used to make the meters misread is fairly obvious if you look up the specs on the meters. In another video these same folks multiply average current times average voltage and pretend that the result is power.
It wouldn't surprise me to discover that faked up videos like this are put up by the oil companies to send people up blind alleys.
knowledgemonger 1 year ago
"Permanent" magnets are not permanent. They have a set amount of energy within them, stored as a magnetic field. As this energy is extracted, the magnet weakens until it is no longer capable of driving whatever it is that it's driving. It is best to view such a magnet as a type of battery and, as we all know, no battery lasts forever.
3lectricMonk 1 year ago
@3lectricMonk FAIL. Magnets do not store energy.
JRBeaman 6 months ago
u shouldn't claim that it's breaking the laws of physics. wow a lotta other ppl already said that. sorry i'm not trying to break u down or anything. but no laws are broken.
unstoppability0360 1 year ago
The burdon of proof is still on the free energy "scientists".
Still don't believe laws of physics are broken. You need to have good proof for that to happen.
RTRVII 1 year ago
ummm.... im pretty sure u shouldnt use hacker pro on the laws of physics...
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graywackeknifebdr 1 year ago
I bought one of these machines and use it to heat my unicorn pens. I'll be harvesting the unicorn horns next spring (they make great aphrodisiacs). Please message me and I'll send it to you, it's only $100/g and I guarantee it works. Trust me.
LiamXaoh 1 year ago
Why has the Lutec site been down for so long? It only shows the product isn't important enough and not worth bothering with.
That's the thing which makes this story smack of SCAM/ FAKE. Not professional at all, so how can you expect investors to take you seriously?
locouk 1 year ago
couldn't one lutec then power another lutec and then another and another until you have amplified enough to power a whole city?
CommonBelief 1 year ago
@CommonBelief The machine doesn't do what is claimed. In this video, they are abusing meters in a way that makes them read nonsense. In another video, they multiply averages and claim that the result means something.
knowledgemonger 1 year ago
couldn't one lutec then power another lutec and then another and another until you have amplified enough to power a whole city?
CommonBelief 1 year ago
I love how it really doesn't explain anything. They could have just said "stuff goes in, magic happens, loads more stuff comes out"
Over-unity is complete arse gravy. The title gave it away "Breaking the laws of physics" You rather shot yourself in the foot with that one.
Newton is turning in his grave right now.
21quandary 1 year ago 2
why are there always so many wires in these things? i thought it utilized the power of the "magnets" and the "power of gravity".
You aussie's your all just convicts trying to make money and i dont blame you.
sibritstone 1 year ago
This guy had a car accident and died.
chopppacalamari 1 year ago
i wish...
DjGisME 1 year ago
lololol I like how most of the vids for overunity have comments disabled~ why? cuz it's impossible due to losses with heat, friction, other forces, etc.
Tlove816tt 1 year ago
where is the math??
uncopino 1 year ago
@uncopino You can download the math on Tom Bearden's website: cheniere dot org/techpapers/emenergy.pdf
peterweetbeter 1 year ago
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@uncopino A [cough]Transistor[/cough] can output more than input. Noone knows why yet its a quantum thing - still getting looked at. The effect makes audio amplifiers cell towers work. Google Calculate Transistor Output - see the pdf from Ohio State Uni(page 4). See also YouTube lego perpetual motion.
EmmittBrownBTTF1 1 year ago
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A [cough]Transistor[/cough] can output more than input. Noone knows why yet its a quantum thing - still getting looked at. The effect makes audio amplifiers cell towers work. Google Calculate Transistor Output - see the pdf from Ohio State Uni(page 4). See also YouTube lego perpetual motion.
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jjerkings2890 1 year ago
LOL "the sun produces energy from a limitless vacuum", and it's said with such a very assuredly honest voice. very funny! the sun, hydrogen to helium.
Paddyllfixit 1 year ago
have you figured out a final price yet...i was considering building one myself but im thinking to order the magnets shell and the time alone it would take to design and build really wouldnt be worth it.....but i dont understand why there is any imput...thought someone figured out a way to run a magnetic motor of an opposite mag field...seen a few videos with no power source...then again idk if they have the torque to turn a genorator
hardhatg69 1 year ago
It's amazing what you can find in 5 minutes on Google:
2001 - Lutec, the $100,000 challenge from the Australian skeptics but eventually backs out.
2001 - Lutec wins the "Bent Spoon Award" (also awarded by the Aust. skeptics)
Ever wondered why they say that they are seeking investment from "Sophisticated Investors"? Requiring "sophisticated investors" is a way of circumventing the legal requirement for a company to issue a prospectus if it wants to sell shares.
Scam? What do you think?
tvsinesperanto 1 year ago
If you're really measuring a power increase I'd be willing to bet it's due to capacitive or inductive phase shifting causing the power factor to change.
But my money is on this being a complete scam rather than the product of ignorant yet basically honest people.
It's funny how they always claim that it is "just about" to go into production, any day now. They've been saying that for several hundred years.
If people were more scientifically literate, scam artists like this wouldn't exist.
tvsinesperanto 1 year ago
@tvsinesperanto You cannot light up 900 watt bulbs only by phase shifting or influencing or changing the impedance of an electrical circuit. There must be a power source and in this case it is what we call "the vacuum"
peterweetbeter 1 year ago
@peterweetbeter Of course there is a power source, it's your input power, the power you are feeding into the system. Feed that power into your globe without going through your "device" and it will light up. Get it to light without putting any power in, then I'll be willing to consider that you may have something.
BTW, the part in the description about the sun radiating into space therefore vacuum must contain energy is a joke. If you believe that you have a seriously poor grasp of physics.
tvsinesperanto 1 year ago
@tvsinesperanto
If trolls did not exist the world would be much cleaner and happier.
MrNobodyNothing 1 year ago
@tvsinesperanto do you have a rebuttle to that
NebunLaCap 1 year ago
@NebunLaCap To what?
tvsinesperanto 1 year ago
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@tvsinesperanto You cannot light up 900 watt bulbs only by phase shifting or influencing or changing the impedance of an electrical circuit. There must be a power source and in this case it is what we call "the vacuum"
NebunLaCap 1 year ago
@tvsinesperanto you are so wrong
jasamcar5 1 year ago
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@jasamcar5 "you are so wrong"
About?
tvsinesperanto 1 year ago
If you think that the fact that stars and quasars emit energy into space means that the vacuum has energy in it then you do not understand physics very well.
tvsinesperanto 1 year ago
output and input are switst, little mistake but its oke we are al humans right ?
kareldezoonvanbennie 1 year ago
it probably works!but like the gms own ev-1 all the industry and politician are scared shitless of the oil industry .various invention like these abound and most popular one get baught by oil industry .since they DONT WANT IT TO BE RESEARCHED AND BECOME POPULAR FOR NOW ITS JUST AMATEUR .but if scientist really looked into it and think about it?imagine a bikethere are two wheel !would it be that hard to generate more power.wheel of different size!so generator can be bigger then the electricmotor
drbaltazar 1 year ago
@drbaltazar The thing in the video is just a prop for a scam. This is not an invention. It just flat doesn't do what is claimed. Scams like this actually help to keep us dependent on oil for our energy. People who waste time and money on this won't go looking for something real. It really wouldn't surprise me to discover that oil companies were putting up videos like this just to spread confusion among those who would like to get off oil.
knowledgemonger 1 year ago
If it amplifies the input electricity five times why just save 80%? Why not take 20% of the output and feed it into the input and save 100%? If it is not possible to feed the output of the machine into the input of itself, feed it into another machine and get an amplification of 25 times which would save 97.5%. And so on.
chbrolin 1 year ago
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"The sun is radiating all its energy into the vacuum, all stars, galaxies, quasars, everything is radiating energy. This means the vacuum cannot be empty thus containing a lot of 'hidden' energy"
Honestly? That's the dumbest crap I've ever heard. If you're trying to explain "vacuum energy", you totally got it wrong. Go open a quantum physics book and look up "vacuum energy" and spare us your blatant ignorance. It has nothing to do with energy that comes out of the stars etc. :-)
Amoeba1911 1 year ago
"The sun is radiating all its energy into the vacuum, all stars, galaxies, quasars, everything is radiating energy. This means the vacuum cannot be empty thus containing a lot of 'hidden' energy"
Honestly? That's the dumbest crap I've ever heard. If you're trying to explain "vacuum energy", you totally got it wrong. Go open a quantum physics book and look up "vacuum energy" and spare us your blatant ignorance. It has nothing to do with energy that comes out of the stars etc. :-)
Amoeba1911 1 year ago
Correction if it GIVES more power than it outputs then it basically gives you BACK money.
dumbass's
seriously it's just a transformer.
DarkKnightBob1o1 1 year ago
I believe it can work with a relationship between permanent and electromagnetic timing. A small laptop can control this.I think that's the key to how this technology exists...
radarrunner1 1 year ago
@radarrunner1 Many people believe that things like this can work. They are all wrong, but you are in good company. Unfortunately, physics forbids things like this from working. There is no combination of motion of magnetic poles that can ever create energy. Since they are claiming more energy out than in, they are claiming some was created. This is clearly nonsense but that is the meaning of their claims.
knowledgemonger 1 year ago
@knowledgemonger Actually they exsist everywere. You just don't see them because it is the idiots that go public. Governments around the world surpress knowledge and sale of these types of machines. You can't learn how to build one off YouTube, but you can learn how to build them. You just gotta have the years to do it and the ability to get past the so called "laws" of physics.
DV7Dave 1 year ago
@DV7Dave I understand the physics of magnets. Trust me none of the machines are real. There is no world wide 100% perfect conspiracy to suppress them. They just flat don't work.
It is actually a good thing that it can't work because if it could we would not be here. The gathering cloud of gas that formed the galaxy would have had that action between the hydrogen atoms from time to time. This would have prevented the atoms for gathering into clumps.
knowledgemonger 1 year ago
@DV7Dave And I suppose that if I ask for some evidence of these devices that "exist everywhere" you'll claim that the total lack of evidence proves that the government conspiracy exists, right?
tvsinesperanto 1 year ago
A device already exists to power your house for free. It’s called Solar for those new to this game. What it does is it uses photovoltaic cells to convert light energy into electricity lol. It does this at a generally low efficiency (in my case 13-15% in good sunlight, much worse in low light). Solar can cost shit loads to setup of course. But over time (6 years in my case) can pay for itself and profit.
Corporations dont stop the Lutec, the laws of physics do lol. Dam you laws of physics!
psychcisco 1 year ago
Btw I have a UFO in my back yard, you can come and check it out. But I must let you know you cannot see it, smell it, taste it, feel it or hear it. In fact there is no known sensory device that can detect its presence, but trust me its there ;)
psychcisco 1 year ago
@psychcisco Can I bring my pet unicorn with me? I don't like to leave it alone too long.
knowledgemonger 1 year ago
Newton has come back to life, just to zombie bitchslap you.
Be afraid.
paulbottomley42 1 year ago
Any student that has spent ten minutes in Physics 101 will tell you this cannot work. It violates the Law of Conservation of Energy - there's more output energy than input. It's like 2+2=5. It's impossible. This is complete bullshit.
Dadevster2 1 year ago
How is it breaking the laws of physics ?
E=m*c2..
If it works i guess it has something to do with the magnetic field beeing easier
to "manipulate" with a electric pulse then by another magnet..
Its not perpetual motion.. the magnets loose theyre power over time..
And by the way these are not the only people claiming "overunety" with pulse motors..
NilsMepils 1 year ago
@NilsMepils There is absolutely no doubt that the folks in this video are scammers. The meters are being used /abused in a way that causes them to produce bogus values. The machine does no break the laws of physics because it simply is a prop for a scam.
The idea that you can get energy from a magnetic field and still have the field left when you are done is like thinking that you can take water out of a bucket and have it remain full. It simply can't happen in real life.
knowledgemonger 1 year ago
@knowledgemonger What about the video with the watt meters?
I am skeptical about this to, but you cant say it doesnt work without proof...
NilsMepils 1 year ago
@NilsMepils (Specific to the other video) Meters of that sort are intended for mains frequency work. They are quite accurate when used as intended. It is a known limitation of them that they become increasingly inaccurate as the frequency is raised or you move away from smooth waveforms to short pulses.
Abusing a Watt meter of that type with short pulses can make them read far less than the actual power. This is what the video actually appears to show.
knowledgemonger 1 year ago
@NilsMepils Magnets have a very little amount of energy stored. It takes a minute worth of heat from a candle to negate the potential energy of a magnet. Once those domains realign, there is no more magnetism. The domains in a magnet are misaligned due to initial energy input to misalign them. How can you get enough torque from a magnetic system generate power if the amount of energy pulled from the magnets is 4 times the original input amount? The magnets would be dead in minutes.
LOLDISNEYLAND 1 year ago
@NilsMepils E = MC^2 has nothing to do with magnets, it describes the relationship between energy & mass.
Manipulate electric pulses any way you like, it won't create energy.
Magnets don't lose power over time. That's why they can't do any work.
You are right, they aren't the only ones claiming OU but that just means they aren't the only frauds out there.
Centuries of OU claims have come to ziltch & probably always will. The laws of thermodynamics are now too well understood to be wrong.
tvsinesperanto 1 year ago
@tvsinesperanto The laws of thermodynamics is based on assumptions
and there are areas that break the second law of thermodynamics.
We know them and they are there.
Have you heared about the casimir effect ?
Can you please explain it to me ?
Dont be a fool and think we have figured everything out..
NilsMepils 1 year ago
@NilsMepils Crap. The laws of thermodynamics aren't based on assumptions & if we were wrong about them, every single device ever built would fail to work as predicted.
What areas break the 2nd LoT? System entropy never decreases, ever.
Yes, I know the Casimir effect. So what? It doesn't break any LoT. It deals exclusively with quantized fields & is impractical on a macro scale.
We don't know everything, but there's a big difference between a new discovery & actually contravening known laws
tvsinesperanto 1 year ago
@tvsinesperanto offcourse the laws are based on some assumptions..they assume that there is no curving of spacetime..
NilsMepils 1 year ago
@NilsMepils 1) Obviously space-time effects everything in some way but, as far as I am aware (I'm not a professional physicist but I have studied physics extensively), it has no effect on thermodynamics that would render the laws void. At least not on a macro level.
2) We know that space-time is NOT flat & that mass bends it for about 100yrs.
3) The point is moot anyway because, if we had it wrong, none of the machines we have ever designed based on the LoT would work properly.
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tvsinesperanto 1 year ago
@NilsMepils Yes, due to Hiesenberg's uncertainty principle, on a quantum scale it APPEARS that the 2nd LoT can be breached but that's far from confirmed &, even if it is eventually confirmed, it's still reliant on the assumption that the universe is a closed system which may not be true. It's quite possible that the virtual particles in the quantum foam are just "borrowing" the energy required to appear from another universe or dimension & returning it when they disappear again.
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tvsinesperanto 1 year ago
@NilsMepils Of course, none of this affects whether or not OU is possible.
I'm willing to admit that it MAY turn out not to be technically impossible to obtain "free" energy on a quantum scale but, on a macro scale, it's bunk.
BTW, I say "free" in quotes because it probably wouldn't really be free (i.e. created from nothing). IF it ever panned out (a BIG if) it would likely just be tapping into an, as yet, poorly understood energy source & so wouldn't breach the 1st LoT.
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tvsinesperanto 1 year ago
@NilsMepils Even in the quantum scale, the amount of energy involved is absolutely infinitesimal (10^-34 Joules range), barely enough for even the most sensitive Atomic Force Microscope to detect. Add the fact that it requires incredibly fiddly equipment to achieve the correct setup & you have a situation where it's not even close to being a practical energy source.
But I really can't be bothered debating it with you any more. If you think it's viable, send them your money. No skin off my nose.
tvsinesperanto 1 year ago
@tvsinesperanto to me free energy is putting a paddle wheel in the river. it is there for the taking.
NilsMepils 1 year ago
@NilsMepils It takes just as much energy to push a paddle backward as it takes to move the boat forward. That's just simple Newtonian physics. F=ma.
If the energy was "free", boats wouldn't need paddles or engines. Same principle applies.
tvsinesperanto 1 year ago
@tvsinesperanto what if you had a invisible river wiyh you were ever you went, and you could put a paddle wheel in it.. would this be free energy ?
NilsMepils 1 year ago
@NilsMepils Oh, I see what you mean.
No, not really, since there would need to be some force, analogous to gravity in our "river" analogy, pushing the "water" "down hill".
Interesting idea though.
tvsinesperanto 1 year ago
@tvsinesperanto What if we are surounded by energy but we cannot see it.. And if we want we could tap into it.. Like we were swimming in the ocean and had the means to convert water into electrical power.. would this be free energy ?
NilsMepils 1 year ago
@NilsMepils Well, you see it all depends on whether or not the energy is dissipated in some way when we use it. Everything we mow about energy & the LoTs, says that it's impossible to do work without using energy. So, whatever the source of the energy, if we tap into it to do work, at least some of it gets "used" (in technical terms it increases entropy). This is wholly in line with the 2nd LoT.
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tvsinesperanto 1 year ago
@NilsMepils Of course, that doesn't mean that there isn't some almost infinite universal energy source pervading space that can be tapped into, but doing so would, by definition, lower the amount of energy remaining & increase system entropy. In practical terms, this may not matter but it doesn't breach the LoT.
Still, leaders in the field aren't even close to discovering anything like this & there aren't even any indications that something like this even exists.
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tvsinesperanto 1 year ago
@NilsMepils This is why I'm always highly skeptical when I hear about some "self taught" (read: No training whatsoever) "genius" who has managed to discover it. Especially when they seem unable or unwilling to present any sort of formal paper on it for peer review, can't offer an explanation of how it works, can't replicate the effect under controlled conditions, & refuses to allow competent 3rd party inspection.
Peer review is everything in science, without it, I'm just not convinced.
tvsinesperanto 1 year ago
@tvsinesperanto Even with peer review, I don't take it as settled. Peer review only means that others who know the subject didn't see an error in the paper. It doesn't protect against fraud or errors that are very hard to spot.
That said, in this case we don't even get close to something that can be peer reviewed. The meters are not being used in a way that makes their readings trustworthy. Meters of this sort are intended for mains frequency work. When used as intended they are good.
knowledgemonger 1 year ago
@knowledgemonger I agree with you about peer review to a certain degree. There have been a few high profile examples of people intentionally trying to defraud the scientific community with some success (Hwang Woo-Suk & Schön for example) but, in general, it's a pretty good system & is rarely circumvented.
I think that independent replication should be required before things are widely accepted though. This is already the case to some degree but I'd like to see it formalised.
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tvsinesperanto 1 year ago
@knowledgemonger Formalising that would all but eliminate the possibility of fraudulent claims, even unintentional ones.
"mains...work."
Yes, you're right. I checked the meters out & they are True RMS meters made by "Center", typically used for Mains work. I don't think there's enough info in the vid to tell if they are being misused though. What makes you say they are?
I think they've just switched output & input for the vid. I doubt they really think it works, they are just scammers IMHO.
tvsinesperanto 1 year ago
@tvsinesperanto I believe based on this video and others by the same folks that the current and voltage involved is far from a constant sine wave. In one of the other videos, you can see obvious sparking of a contact.
knowledgemonger 1 year ago
@knowledgemonger Ahhh, I see. Yes, that is gross abuse of the meters. They won't give anything like an accurate measurement under conditions like that.
Surely they must be aware of that? They couldn't be THAT naive could they? Gotta be intentional.
tvsinesperanto 1 year ago
@tvsinesperanto Professor Konstantin Meyl a german have replicated some of Teslas work and he has stated that there is overunity effect by a factor of 10...
NilsMepils 1 year ago
@NilsMepils Well, as I say above, until it's been peer reviewed, it didn't happen. That's the default position of science & one that has set it in good stead for 300 years or more. Anyone can state anything, unless you've got the proof, you've got no game.
tvsinesperanto 1 year ago
@tvsinesperanto Nikola Tesla whas the one starting all this, do some searches for "tesla longitudinal"
NilsMepils 1 year ago
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tvsinesperanto 1 year ago
@NilsMepils Sorry for the empty reply. Accidentally hit "Post". Damn iPad.
Yes, I am familiar with Tesla's work. There is no doubt that he was brilliant, there is no doubt that he contributed greatly to our understanding of electricity & electromagnetic fields. However, there is also no doubt that, towards the end of his career, he made some pretty outlandish claims that he was unable to replicate or back up with evidence.
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tvsinesperanto 1 year ago
@NilsMepils The fact that he made these claims during a period when he was in financial troubles & was trying to attract new investors, may have just been a coincidence but, then again, maybe it wasn't. It probably wasn't.
Tesla is a magnet (pardon the pun) for every crackpot conspiracy theorist & perpetual motion proponent on the planet. They all claim, without a scrap of evidence mind you, that Tesla succeeded in building *insert name of magic device here* but...
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tvsinesperanto 1 year ago
@NilsMepils but...
the government swore him to secrecy, or it was bought by oil companies, or he was killed to stop him producing it, or any one of a dozen other, equally unsupported, claims.
Of course, that's not to say that Tesla wasn't working on some legitimate stuff too (wireless transmission of power for example), but the claims that say he invented some hyper-advanced, physics-defying devices, are unsupported by any evidence that I'm aware of & are, almost certainly, pure bunk.
tvsinesperanto 1 year ago
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@tvsinesperanto The laws of thermodynamics is based on assumptions
and there are areas that break the second law of thermodynamics.
We know them and they are there.
Have you heared about the casimir effect ?
Can you please explain it to me ?
Dont be a fool and think we have figured everything out..
NilsMepils 1 year ago
@tvsinesperanto read page. 459 of Dilip Kondepudi and Ilya Prigogine, Modern
Thermodynamics: From Heat Engines to Dissipative Structures.
NilsMepils 1 year ago
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henrykay01 1 year ago
@henrykay01 LOL. The cheque is in the mail. Honest!
tvsinesperanto 1 year ago
its funny- I first saw this scam in 2003 and commented at the time on the sssf forums
it was `6 months away' then- and has been ever since
altho I must say that if he is telling the truth- lutec has certainly been a nice little earner for him over the years- about 150 grand (australian dollars) a year each that has all been used for `research' (I would say quite a bit of that `research' was invested in researching the effects of XXXX on the effect of personal happyness...
con artists
68bop 1 year ago
this is shit if this was true he can use a battery for the input then use 1 out of the 6 from the output to rechage the battery again
if this is the case you are a nobel prize winner my friend you generated 5 times the power for free
bolbol35usa 1 year ago
The guy can't even make sense in his own video. He says it only uses 20% as much power as it produces, so it will save 80% of your power bill? WTF? If it makes MORE energy then it uses, then you wouldn't need ANY power bill! You could disconnect from the grid all together or even better SELL your extra power BACK to the grid. That people still fall for this shit is staggering!
vespine 1 year ago
@andyb2389 a university education doesnt mean you know anything relevant, it just means that you went through a system...... and you absorbed exactly what people wanted you to absorb......... and you are simply a product of a system and so is your method of thinking. Im not trying to be rude, I respect you and Im sure you are a very nice person, I just dont believe in public education. peace to you.
tykal01 1 year ago
"I just dont believe in public education."
And it shows.
retepvosnul 1 year ago
Over-unity does not work. It simply does not. Either these people are deliberate frauds, or they do not know how to take measurements ( which I doubt ).
retepvosnul 1 year ago
I hate to break it to you but you havent got a clue most people dont they have been fed a line by education not only is it possible but you will see it as soon as those of us who know how to makje it can get the cash
garthog42 1 year ago
I hate to break.. O wait I do not. Look, there is NO conspiracy as far as the laws of physics go. IF the fundamental laws need to be revisited I will not be due to some ( not very unique ) idea/ invention from some wacko's garage and It will be a minor adjustment at most.
Even if these machines did half what is claimed ( which they do not ), I'd have several severe ethical issues with the 123122 inventors who refuse to virally distribute the schematic to break this "conspiracy". Izza scam !
retepvosnul 1 year ago
Dark matter? Dark energy? Inflation? There are main stream scientists who would argue that current physics is in need of a lot more than a 'minor adjustment'.
okmichael1971 1 year ago
Those are not even items that touch the laws of thermodynamics in a way that is relevant here. Before screaming all sorts of jargon at me you got from science fiction shows, you might want to check out such random tidbits as scientific methods and the actual FUCKING TOPIC!.
If you do actually insist making an argument out of ignorance, then be prepared to be treated with ruthless scepticism usually reserved for fundies and faith-heads.
retepvosnul 1 year ago
'If the fundamental laws need to be revisited...it will be a minor adjustment at most.' If a major rethink is needed of mainstream ideas such as dark matter et al, then it's not unnreasonable to ask questions about over-unity's supposed impossibilty. The laws of thermodynamics don't prohibit a system from having infinite energy. At the risk of using jargon, Dirac's original equation of the electron contains an infinitely large sea of negative energy.
okmichael1971 1 year ago
The machine shown in the video doesn't do what is claimed. The folks involved are known scammers. The meters in this video are being abused in a way that makes their readings wildly inaccurate. In another video with the same folks they multiply numbers that they have no business multiplying and then try to claim that the product is meaningful.
knowledgemonger 1 year ago