@censor48 Yes, but to be frank, mainframes are completely worthless when it comes to graphics/pre-press/media, or any audiovisual content creation & processing.
Sure, they're tops when it comes to unglamorous & utilitarian tasks like databases and all, but PCs are quite adept at applications that mainframes are simply not equipped for. Basically, all flavors of computers have their own niches, with PC being a "catch-all" of sorts due to it being the most versatile, if not the most powerful.
@pvx don't talk about stuff you know nothing about you dumbass. Mainframes are built for 24/7 transaction processing or other number crunching. Your PC cannot do that and was not built for that purpose.
@dargay I konw quite well what I'm talking about, sir. Umm, PCs can do that too, albeit in numbers--it's called grid computing & server farms, which makes mainframes even look more quaint and awkward. Who's the dumbass now?
@jdgator95 Compared to the massive size of the IBM 1401 or 7030 this thing is tiny. Whats incredible is for its size it is at least several hundred thousand times faster. Makes you wonder where well be in another 40 years.
@jdgator95 I worked on an IBM ES9000 around 1990, just as the transition to RAID, RAM-disks and TCP/IP was starting to happen. It was a huge, multi-million dollar installation, and it very likely had half the MFlops of the PC I'm typing this on even with its 8 cores.
But the -throughput- of the system was astronomical. That's where IBM designs really shine.
IBM contributed greatly to Linux multi-core support, and native S/360. A single image on thousands of CPUs? Yep.
This box is a screamer compared to the z/9 (and earlier hardware). Add in enough of the ZIIP's and ZAAP's engines and your can really drop processing cost - been there done that.
Does it run Linux? Very well (hence the specialty engines) when running under z/VM you can run thousands of Linux images. Let's not forget about z/OS, z/VSE and z/TPF and then enhancements IBM has made to the operating system to support the new hardware features.
actually, it's an enterprise class machine, so it'll probably be used until it becomes a bottleneck on the network, and then most likely it will be upgraded rather than replaced. Mostly because this is a MAINFRAME computer. The kind of computer that gets a room all to itself.
UNISYS is a great mainframe.
we use them at work.
i like, and am use to their language, and find them
easier to communicate with then IBM
OLD IBM EMPLOYEE USED TO SAY ABOUT IBM
WHICH MEANS
"I'VE BEEN MOVED"=IBM
censor48 1 year ago
@censor48 now at my workplace,people are calling IBM = Institute of Black Magick :)) ,and yes i work with z/series only xD
enbiscuits 1 year ago
mainframes will never die.
they just fad away into improvements, and keep coming back.
pc can never do what a mainframe can.
unless the aliens make themselves known from other space
and introduce mankind to new technology, mainframes are
here to stay.
a database workhorse.
censor48 1 year ago
@censor48 Yes, but to be frank, mainframes are completely worthless when it comes to graphics/pre-press/media, or any audiovisual content creation & processing.
Sure, they're tops when it comes to unglamorous & utilitarian tasks like databases and all, but PCs are quite adept at applications that mainframes are simply not equipped for. Basically, all flavors of computers have their own niches, with PC being a "catch-all" of sorts due to it being the most versatile, if not the most powerful.
pvx 1 year ago
@pvx don't talk about stuff you know nothing about you dumbass. Mainframes are built for 24/7 transaction processing or other number crunching. Your PC cannot do that and was not built for that purpose.
dargay 1 year ago
@dargay I konw quite well what I'm talking about, sir. Umm, PCs can do that too, albeit in numbers--it's called grid computing & server farms, which makes mainframes even look more quaint and awkward. Who's the dumbass now?
pvx 1 year ago
Compare this to the mainframes of the 60s and 70s and what they could do, then think, that's this in 40 years.....crazy
jdgator95 1 year ago
@jdgator95 Compared to the massive size of the IBM 1401 or 7030 this thing is tiny. Whats incredible is for its size it is at least several hundred thousand times faster. Makes you wonder where well be in another 40 years.
Dms12444 1 year ago
@jdgator95 I worked on an IBM ES9000 around 1990, just as the transition to RAID, RAM-disks and TCP/IP was starting to happen. It was a huge, multi-million dollar installation, and it very likely had half the MFlops of the PC I'm typing this on even with its 8 cores.
But the -throughput- of the system was astronomical. That's where IBM designs really shine.
IBM contributed greatly to Linux multi-core support, and native S/360. A single image on thousands of CPUs? Yep.
CurtHowland 1 year ago
This box is a screamer compared to the z/9 (and earlier hardware). Add in enough of the ZIIP's and ZAAP's engines and your can really drop processing cost - been there done that.
Does it run Linux? Very well (hence the specialty engines) when running under z/VM you can run thousands of Linux images. Let's not forget about z/OS, z/VSE and z/TPF and then enhancements IBM has made to the operating system to support the new hardware features.
ttugarygregory 1 year ago
$1M and only 64 CPUs? Hmmm....
Bet it runs Linux. ...and runs it really well.
CurtHowland 2 years ago
@CurtHowland it's a workhorse, not a toy. no linux there.
code123ns 1 year ago
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@code123ns "it's a workhorse, not a toy. no linux there."
Oh? Better tell that to IBM:
ww w-03.ibm. com/systems/z/os/linux/
"For the last decade, clients around the world have benefited from the strengths of Linux on System z"
Maybe you should realize that Linux is no toy.
CurtHowland 1 year ago 3
The next gen gaming machine..1 million dollars..MMMMM I'll start saving now..
TheRusskinruss 2 years ago
Is this thing like a giant server?
bumtownv2 2 years ago
Will this run COD4?
IBLOWN 2 years ago
i believe not, because people, who buy a machine like this to play cod4 cant be very intelligent -.-
ApoX312 2 years ago 2
And i was serious -.-
IBLOWN 2 years ago
ok let´s be serious. no it will not run cod4, because the system architecture doesn´t support windows
ApoX312 2 years ago
Heard of virtualization?
shades2 2 years ago
In a virtual machine, sure. Probably better to run COD4 server on it.
shades2 2 years ago
oh yes, sure i did, just forgot it^^
ApoX312 2 years ago
Wow, nice powerful toy. Soon will become obsolete and replace by more powerful machine. I want more power.
TheIxtlan 2 years ago
actually, it's an enterprise class machine, so it'll probably be used until it becomes a bottleneck on the network, and then most likely it will be upgraded rather than replaced. Mostly because this is a MAINFRAME computer. The kind of computer that gets a room all to itself.
k0namiman 2 years ago
um, if you had a free z10, you'd still need storage; better ask for a free ds8300 with encrypting drives too
johanntoday 2 years ago
pls ship mi one for free in my home in Croatia, thx
LUKAvac2 3 years ago
x86 ? bummer...
stonerj0e 3 years ago
starting price of millon dollars. haha.
bsenthil1 3 years ago
awesome can't wait to get one! come on IBM where's my free mainframe?
drksde05 3 years ago 2
yeah free mainframe! And free nuclear reactor in my garden plz ;)
bommel88 3 years ago
Once these free MacBook Pro popups disappear, it'll be Free Z10!!!
TurnerzworldCorp 3 years ago