@DutchPetriot Certainly not, it's understandable. I used to not like opera at all because of the singing and such, though I grew to appreciate it more over the years.
@DutchPetriot Not at all. Buy a CD of Wagner's greatest music. Learn the stories behind the wonderful music, then sometime, you'll want to dive into a Wagner opera.
@Pouffecal I think you mean 6:35 because that's when I took off! And kept flying. I want this to play live in the last moments of my long and happy life. Best way to go in my book!
This music doesn't belong to a human being. It is just metaphysical. Something great. The notes played by the strings are flying high, as an angel, as Lohengrin is. Heavenly.
Wagner was anti-semitic and anti-semiticism is horrible; but it is demonstrably the case that Wagner's music is some of the most beautiful and sublime that has ever entered the mind of man. There is a sense in which those who stop listening to Wagner because of his anti-semiticism, and his unfortunate associations with Nazism, are providing one more victim to this inhuman idea; and that would be an awful shame. Wagner's music is everything that his anti-semiticism was not: beautiful & ennobling.
Je n'ai jamais entendu quelque chose d'aussi somptueux. Ce compositeur m'accompagne depuis 25 ans dans mes tourments et sans doute aussi dans mes errements . Mais en tout cas, sa musique m'enivre, me fait vibrer et rêver. On se croirait presque au 7ème ciel et on vit largement autre chose qu'une simple musique. Vive Richard WAGNER !!
Una deliciosa interpretación de Wagner y definitivamente una de las mejores obras maestras que he escuchado, he sido llevado al cielo y al estar ahí experimentado una sensación muy hermosa.
@Marianitomiron Y yo le respondo con un abrazo también a usted respetable Marianito, es agradable saber que este tipo de interpretaciones no queden olvidadas y sean disfrutadas en tiempos contemporáneos.
@Evenizer120 Es un gusto poder compartir esto, y ver que se puede entablar un diálogo melónamano en youtube, un medio tan propenso a las opiniones irrespetuosas. Saludos cordiales desde Buenos Aires!
@Marianitomiron Ja, no hay problema, es bueno saber que hay muchas personas que tienen su lenguaje español muy nutrido, variedad de palabras, eso lo admiro mucho, y de personas de la Argentina me ha tocado presenciar a muchos que como usted les gusta escribir palabras que ponen en alto nuestro maravilloso lenguaje. Dejando a un lado a los que les gusta escribir sandeces porque han aprendido a usar el teclado, este medio podría ser muy agradable.
@Marianitomiron Ah, mire usted, le recomiendo un tema de S. Rachmaninoff, Rapsodia sobre un tema de Paganini (watch?v=wKohnM8Bnj0), a mí me gustó mucho, a ver qué opina usted Marianito.
Quanta tristezza mi mette leggere certe imbecillità, si tratta di un grande musicista, pupillo del Re di Baviera Ludwig II, banda di bifolchi, cosa c'entra la politica....
@samisyosam Wagner and Brahms are both wonderful geniouses ! Cheers Wagner, cheers Brahms !!! I adore Brahms, but I must admit, with sorrow, he was mean-minded with Wagner and Wagner's followers, like Bruckner. That's enough with this bad and foolish history of Wagner versus Brahms and vice versa. They live together in the Parnasus, now, for the humanity happiness
In my video response, I just happened to catch this beautiful piece of music as I made a video of my dog and myself riding back from a walk, and it just seemed to fit perfectly with the scenery on the back roads from there through part of the Loch Raven Watershed to my house.
This is arguably his most beautiful Overture, although Tannhauser and the Prelude to Tristan und Isolde are also superb. But Lohengrin, probably his "easiest" opera to follow in terms of style and orchestration, is a masterpiece, overwhelmingly, torturingly radiant.
@philipc67 I think the overture to Parsifal is the most beautiful, and, in fact, I hear a great deal of Lohengrin in Parsifal, but that comes as no surprise as according to the silly legend, Lohengrin is Parsifal's son. This is indeed very fine, no doubt about it.
This is indeed one of the most beautiful pieces of music Wagner wrote. His music moves me and my spirit in ways that other classical music composers cannot. His music will always trandsend his politics.
@trancematic01 Absolutely! The political discussion surrounding Wagner is pointless and seems to come from people who have no appreciation for music at any rate, so they must resort to ad hominem criticisms which have nothing to do with the music. So silly. Next they will be saying that the Tristan chord is a Fascist harmony as it could be viewed as a half diminished chord used out of the usual harmonic context.
I have two images in mind when I hear this: Bobby Kennedy's funeral mass when Lyndon and Lady Bird were being seated and Chaplin's ballet with the globe.
@RedBaronTDL Actually, I'm trying to go a bit deeper into this phenomenon than merely deploring (or enjoying) any supposed connection with National Socialism. History has had its way with the Nazis. WWII is long over, and Germany is now a prosperous and admirable country. What I'm discussing is the aforementioned Cult of Wagner, which is interesting in its own right. It makes the poignancy of pieces like this even more intense and complex, as art works. To deny this is intellectually dishonest.
As an avid listener of Wagner's mustic, I have this to say about contemporary views of Wagner.
It seems undeniable to me that there exists a certain Cult of Wagner, which goes beyond a mere love of his music. Just as some people are attracted to members of the opposite sex who seem sinister or even criminal, so there exists a number of Wagner enthusiasts who secretly thrill at worshipping the music of a supposedly evil man. I wish this were not true. Nonetheless, I'm sure that it is.
@Glencanon4au I am admittedly a part of that cult. for me, the whole mythical wicked antisemitic musical genius wizard who influenced the Nazis,,yet was torn by his painful and often hateful seeking of the truth
@Mirani2 Because you have the insight and honesty to admit this, I suspect that you're probably a pretty decent person. Regarding Wagner, I feel that I have one foot in the Cult group, and the other foot planted firmly in the category of music lover. It probably isn't really possible for me to fully appreciate Wagner in any other way.
I enjoy the music of other composers within historical contexts (eg, Beethoven's political love/hate obsession with Napoleon Bonaparte). So why not Wagner?
@Glencanon4au Thanks! I have to say the whole "Cult of Wagner" thing makes it more mystical, makes the music more enjoyable knowing there's this aura AROUND the composer. It's almost like the area outside the fourth wall comes into play here. Not that the music itself doesn't measure up, it is awesome, but that the whole reality-merged-with-the-music-and-stories thing makes us feel there is a connection between the operas and real life.
Like Lord of th Rings is taken to smbolize Nazi Germny
@Glencanon4au With the utmost respect, what evidence can you produce to support this perception? There may be evil folks who enjoy Wagner, but the music did not make them evil, they were that way to begin with. The idea that a cult enjoy listening to Wagner JUST because he was supposedly an evil man seems absurd. Produce this cult of people who like Wagner just because he was supposedly evil, not because he was one of a handful of composers who changed the course of music.
..if God exists: This is music for him. bytheway, Wagner was born long time before WII and his music and compositions have nothing to do with any political direction.
If it's of any interest people, I'm a Jew and I love Wagner. So did Yehudi Menuhin. Wagner didn't hate Jews, some of his closest friends and supporters were Jewish. He just said Jewish music wasn't very Germanic and he was right, so will the politically correct twin set and pearls brigade who aren't Jewish, shut up and mind your own business
@WolseleyAC Agree mate, why should any ethnic-religious-racial opinion be regarded as an attack. We cant afford to enter in such a blind bigotry. It isnt hate to speak the truth. If his startpoint was as a german, it's his view. We should respect it in the same manner that we can tolerate to be adressed as goyim, auslander, farang, gringo or whatever. They arent in themselves hateful concepts, but references to a reality that ignorance fills with hatred..
@WolseleyAC "some of his closest friends were jewish". Wow amazing. 19 people thumbed up that? You're not fooling anyone with this sappy, ahistorical collaborator garbage.
@WolseleyAC er, well, it would be speaking for someone I don't know to say 'Wagner hated Jews,' but his negative feelings toward them certainly extended further than "their music isn't Germanic" if we are to lend any credence to his writings.
@WolseleyAC Thank you. I believe you are in good company. For my part, I am not terribly concerned with Wagner's personal views whatever they were. The music transcends any particular politics, and that's as it should be. What do you mean by "the politically correct twin set?" Do you mean people who parrot PC views? Also, please clarify "the pearls brigade" if you will. I am not familiar with the term. Cheers from Andrew in the USA!
@WolseleyAC I like him too, but his antisemitism isn't all that easy to dismiss. What about the way he abused his conductor of Parsifal, whom he called "my Parsifal conductor." What about his famous quote: "It's not so bad if the world comes to an end, but if it's b/c of the Jews, that would be a shame." What about the jokes he made about the Jews dying at the fire in Vienna? What about the Jewish caricatures in the Ring cycle (namely Albrecht and Mime)? How do you address these problems?
@WolseleyAC Also, Wagner's tirade was against a specific conductor, and his argument was racist--that Jews can't compose pure music b/c they're ethnically impure. I'm aware that Barenboim is Jewish as well as Levine (indeed, the most talented conductors tend to be Jewish or Asian these days!), & Wagner seemed to acknowledge their talent in his own time, but it was a reluctant acknowledgment in light of his racist theories & he never rescinded his claim about Jewish composition (far as I know).
@WolseleyAC With all due respect, the reason why we have these politically correct idiot Goyim is because of a lifelong guilt complex has be instilled on them by the tribe. I can imagine it becoming so obnoxious as to infuriate even some Jews.
I think we all need to learn how to handle criticism, and not be quick to condemn others, especially men of genius like Wagner.
Wagner was not anti-Semitic. He did not favor Judaism... he even teased one of his "disciples", Anton Bruckner, for being Jewish; it was playful, though. He would not have supported Hitler at all. He was an ass, but not evil.
Is there not a single clip of Wagner where some harebrain points out that Hitler loved Wagner and uses that as a knock against Wagner. We get it. Hitler loved Wagner. Yes, Wagner was antisemitic. What was that? Hitler loved Wagner? Who knew??
I concur with the Findlandator. Being a musical genius doesn't guarantee a good character. What is good about Wagner is with us for all the world to share
Wagner may have been anti-semitist jerk, but his music is wonderful.
I must remind you people that back then being nationalist and racist was actually quite normal. EVEN Mahatma Gandhi was a passionate racist. He hated blacks more than anything and he didn't even keep them as humans...
You might respect Gandhi and Wagner, but they both were still racists; yet it doesn't make their achievements any less better. : /
@kiwihans I think Wagner's Ring series kind of has the sametruth to it as Nazi Germany- the Ring, symbolizing power, took over everybody's lives, and ruined everything, but the power of love conquered it all.
@McGravity1 1) He was an unapologetic anti-semite (though apparently he had Jewish friends. I'm not sure how that works) and 2) Hitler's favorite composer. The Nazis used his work extensively as propaganda. He didn't cause WWII or the Holocaust, but he's associated with them because of that. My personal philosophy is that the guy was a brilliant composer, but just because I like his music doesn't mean I have to like the man.
@thevampirefrog06 True. Hitler most likely "loved" Wagners music due to the fact he knew that Wagner was antisemetic, therfore linking Wagners music to antisemetism. Would Hitler have loved Wagners music if Wagner wasn't antisemetic? Probably not.
@muzomanoz I don''t get your logic which is clearly not based on documented evidence. Hitler loved and appreciated Wagner, his music and and his Musiktheater . Pure and simple. That does not take away the fact that he was a mass murderer. HItler was also a vegetarian, he loved animals and hated smoking. His architectural drawings were actually quite good. He was still a mass murderer despite the fact that he shared a good deal of the finer aspects of humanity.
If Wagner certainly published (and re-published!) an essay dealing with jews and music he certainly was not antisemit! The point of his essay was that jews cannot composed good music (it is assumed to be reffering to Mendelssohn).
Though this position is highly debatable, Wagner was nothing but antisemit : he choosed a jewish chief for the premiere of Parsifal (Hermann levi), and has a lot of jewish friends.
@wabosi: What does that have to do with anything? If you're saying that all Wagner-lovers are Nazis somewhere inside themselves, that's just as delusional as saying that whoever loves Rakhmáñinov or Chaykóvskiy must be a Stáljinst in the same way!!!
It's incredible, the intuitive genuis that Wagner posessed. It's almost supernatural, and yet Wagner had a soul that was human, all-too-human. That he was an antisemite is one of the saddest things about his character, but it only demonstrates that talent and wisdom are two completely different things. These two traits seem to have no kinship at all. Strange.
It is near to impossible for me to reckon with anyone creating such extraordinarily beautiful music that brings me to tears every single time I'm blessed to hear it.
wagner was also very antisemetic and professed his anti jewish veiws in publick refering to Jews as being like vernim.However his musi is beyond doubt and should be judged seperatley from the composers personal veiws.
wagner was also very antisemetic and professed his anti jewish veiws in publick refering to Jews as being like vernim.However his musi is beyond doubt and should be judged seperatley from the composers personal veiws
Perhaps the problem can now be solved by somebody checking out Solti's complete discography, see which timings (and playing-results from which orchestras) come closest to what's heard here and finally let the rest of us know...
Wagner for all time. Sublime music from the paragon of composers who, along with Bach, was among the most gifted to have ever lived. Music such as this is belongs to a different world, to a race of angels. How fortunate are we, for this undeserved visitation, for this gift of music supreme.
Here, for once, Richard Wagner is incontestably soft overall (even the loud climax feels like it logically follows from a basically gentle base)!!! [Not that I mind - Wagner had every reason to be loud when need be, and he's not usually loud for bombast's sake.] Beautiful, utterly ethereal stuff that really builds to its climax and then slowly scales down to an equally-visionary ending.
How do I know this is Georg Solti an the Chicago Symphony? It just is. No other recent interpreter and orchestra has come close to Solti / Chicago (in my humble opinion). There is an indefinable "sweetness" to this orchestral playing that enables me to "pin-point" Solti / Chicago.
Wagner's music is etherial. If you like this you'll love the entire opera for a lifetime!
@leavesyoubreathless: It seems reasonably sure amongst those in the know that Solti is conducting this excerpt. However, might it be instead the Vienna Philharmonic (with whom he recorded the complete opera)?
@leavesyoubreathless: you're welcome - I however don't see this as much of an insight, since Solti recorded most of his Wagner recordings (comprising all of the operas nowadays performed regularly) with the Wiener Philharmoniker (Vienna Philharmonic) under Decca/London's aegis. The only Wagner opera I definitely remember him recording with the Chicago Symphony was "Der Fliegende Holländer".
@leavesyoubreathless Wagner for all time. Sublime music from the paragon of composers who, along with Bach, was among the most gifted to have ever lived. Music such as this is belongs to a different world, to a race of angels. How fortunate are we, for this undeserved visitation, for this gift of music supreme.
El compositor que mejor ha sabido expresar la experiencia humana. El que mejor supo traducir a notas los infinitos y laberínticos recovecos del ser humano!
it seems that the only question that is important in the world is if you like or hate jews. All the lifework of a man, all his virtues, all his dreams all his moral is of secondary or no importance. If you like jews, no matter what kind of a murderer you are, you are blessed. If you hate them, you are damned. God damn the world!!!!!!
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@PANABURDACCS Good said , thats actually true, no matter what this jewish parasites have done to European civilization, no matter what power they currently held, they have brainwashed so much the masses that the masses think that who ever dont like jews is a bad person!!! SUCH STUPIDITY IS CURRENTLY RULING THE WORLD
I first heard this as a child of 10 while watching "The great Dictator". I remember thinking at the time, hearing this music and watching the scene where Hinkel plays with the terrestrial globe: oh yes what a noble deed it must be to conquer the world
@khanzirose Well the jewish bolshevist were declaring that they want to make all the world bolshevist , so to speak conquer the world, the British empire held 1\4 of the globes surface, the jewish owned USA is declaring that they are the masters of the world, but the one who never said or wanted ever to conquer the world , Adolf Hitler, is being acussed by his world ruling jewish enemies that he wanted to conquer the world !hahahahahah stupid masses
@Napoleontas I was simply communicating the thoughts of the 10 year old in me, no need being serious about it... however, fact of the matter is that I am Lebanese, how do you think I feel about Zionist Jews?;p
heard this just 20 minutes ago for the first time in my Understanding Music course at Syracuse University...Love at first sound. :)
DALNewhouse2012 5 days ago
Am I the only one who loves the music but without the opera?
DutchPetriot 1 week ago
@DutchPetriot Certainly not, it's understandable. I used to not like opera at all because of the singing and such, though I grew to appreciate it more over the years.
ItzhakRoxMySox 6 days ago
@DutchPetriot Not at all. Buy a CD of Wagner's greatest music. Learn the stories behind the wonderful music, then sometime, you'll want to dive into a Wagner opera.
eric5906 1 day ago
Very sweet sound, a mixture of light and darkness; presaging the two female charcters?
harshwilly 2 weeks ago in playlist Favorite videos
Our tears....
Witchicaa 2 weeks ago
As the e-horns come in (dubbing altos if I well remember the score) (at 04:35), you take off and fly away, and have to lock your seatbelt
Pouffecal 3 weeks ago
@Pouffecal I think you mean 6:35 because that's when I took off! And kept flying. I want this to play live in the last moments of my long and happy life. Best way to go in my book!
anushca100 2 weeks ago
....and then the Earth baloon just made boom
rockhammer666 3 weeks ago
This music doesn't belong to a human being. It is just metaphysical. Something great. The notes played by the strings are flying high, as an angel, as Lohengrin is. Heavenly.
carlopianist89 1 month ago
most bautiful piece of music i have ever heard
Rocktag0nal 1 month ago
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When I die, I want this playing at my death bed.
MrFlylice 1 month ago
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MrFlylice 1 month ago
if you read closer wagner was not the anti semite he was made out to be and you will find that he had many jewish friends .
jtim56 1 month ago
I just wish it were loader.
LucienLachance007 2 months ago
I've found out that I love drama
ccaaaiiooo 2 months ago
Sod all these terrible comments, I still would wish with all my heart to hear this beautiful piece as I pass into the next world.
peter359 2 months ago
amazing! :')
lilianaasancheez 2 months ago
Wagner was anti-semitic and anti-semiticism is horrible; but it is demonstrably the case that Wagner's music is some of the most beautiful and sublime that has ever entered the mind of man. There is a sense in which those who stop listening to Wagner because of his anti-semiticism, and his unfortunate associations with Nazism, are providing one more victim to this inhuman idea; and that would be an awful shame. Wagner's music is everything that his anti-semiticism was not: beautiful & ennobling.
bayreuth79 3 months ago
@bayreuth79
Well, the man didn't commit atrocities against the Jews, he just had an opinion that he was entitled to. So I agree with you.
LucienLachance007 3 months ago
@bayreuth79
Being anti-Palestinian is as horrible as being anti-Semitic!!!
So let me reformulate it for you: being anti - human is horrible.
altorres1001 1 month ago
Reminds me of Chaplin's dance with the globe in The Great Dictator......
nikhiljayakrishnan 3 months ago
Anyone ever notice how much Wagner looks like baseball player Bob Uecker?
walmartdog1142 3 months ago
Je n'ai jamais entendu quelque chose d'aussi somptueux. Ce compositeur m'accompagne depuis 25 ans dans mes tourments et sans doute aussi dans mes errements . Mais en tout cas, sa musique m'enivre, me fait vibrer et rêver. On se croirait presque au 7ème ciel et on vit largement autre chose qu'une simple musique. Vive Richard WAGNER !!
frenchnicodeme66 4 months ago
Una deliciosa interpretación de Wagner y definitivamente una de las mejores obras maestras que he escuchado, he sido llevado al cielo y al estar ahí experimentado una sensación muy hermosa.
Evenizer120 4 months ago
@Evenizer120 Estimado Evenizer, coincido absolutamente con ud! Un gran abrazo desde la Argentina!
Marianitomiron 3 months ago
@Marianitomiron Y yo le respondo con un abrazo también a usted respetable Marianito, es agradable saber que este tipo de interpretaciones no queden olvidadas y sean disfrutadas en tiempos contemporáneos.
El saludo que le mando es desde México.
Evenizer120 3 months ago
@Evenizer120 Es un gusto poder compartir esto, y ver que se puede entablar un diálogo melónamano en youtube, un medio tan propenso a las opiniones irrespetuosas. Saludos cordiales desde Buenos Aires!
Marianitomiron 3 months ago
quise decir: "diálogo melómano"
Marianitomiron 3 months ago
@Marianitomiron Ja, no hay problema, es bueno saber que hay muchas personas que tienen su lenguaje español muy nutrido, variedad de palabras, eso lo admiro mucho, y de personas de la Argentina me ha tocado presenciar a muchos que como usted les gusta escribir palabras que ponen en alto nuestro maravilloso lenguaje. Dejando a un lado a los que les gusta escribir sandeces porque han aprendido a usar el teclado, este medio podría ser muy agradable.
Un saludo para usted desde Jalisco, México.
Evenizer120 3 months ago
@Marianitomiron Ah, mire usted, le recomiendo un tema de S. Rachmaninoff, Rapsodia sobre un tema de Paganini (watch?v=wKohnM8Bnj0), a mí me gustó mucho, a ver qué opina usted Marianito.
Buenas noches.
Evenizer120 3 months ago
The Tolkien of classical music.
voxhunden 4 months ago
Quanta tristezza mi mette leggere certe imbecillità, si tratta di un grande musicista, pupillo del Re di Baviera Ludwig II, banda di bifolchi, cosa c'entra la politica....
Dominique2846 4 months ago
Down with Wagner! Brahms 4life!
samisyosam 5 months ago
@samisyosam Wagner and Brahms are both wonderful geniouses ! Cheers Wagner, cheers Brahms !!! I adore Brahms, but I must admit, with sorrow, he was mean-minded with Wagner and Wagner's followers, like Bruckner. That's enough with this bad and foolish history of Wagner versus Brahms and vice versa. They live together in the Parnasus, now, for the humanity happiness
mozartbg 3 weeks ago
Used at the end of Charlie Chaplin's The Great Dictator.
"Look up, Hannah, Look up.." :)
michaelwuzthere 5 months ago 2
Wagner was the greatest composer of all time...
Maxety 6 months ago
Wagner was the best composer.
Maxety 6 months ago
In my video response, I just happened to catch this beautiful piece of music as I made a video of my dog and myself riding back from a walk, and it just seemed to fit perfectly with the scenery on the back roads from there through part of the Loch Raven Watershed to my house.
PaulAndMuttley 6 months ago
Потрясающая музыка! Какой всё-таки Вагнер - великий мелодист!
irina4481 6 months ago
can anyone give me the mp3 version of this? not yt downloaded, I want a good quality version of this, google didnt help much :\
stepbystep29A 6 months ago
If this piece doesn't inspire chicken skin at the very least, you have ice water flowing through your veins.
deaddog707 6 months ago
qui dirige ?
Who is the conductor ?
Thank you
jfkdesign 6 months ago
This is arguably his most beautiful Overture, although Tannhauser and the Prelude to Tristan und Isolde are also superb. But Lohengrin, probably his "easiest" opera to follow in terms of style and orchestration, is a masterpiece, overwhelmingly, torturingly radiant.
philipc67 6 months ago
@philipc67 I think the overture to Parsifal is the most beautiful, and, in fact, I hear a great deal of Lohengrin in Parsifal, but that comes as no surprise as according to the silly legend, Lohengrin is Parsifal's son. This is indeed very fine, no doubt about it.
acbulgin2 5 months ago
@philipc67 'Torturingly radiant' is perhaps the best description I have ever heard in my life to describe this beautiful overture.
peter359 2 months ago 2
Etherial beauty> sorry, no more to add>
leavesyoubreathless 7 months ago
i really like this song.
CaptPreston 7 months ago
I am going to hear on Saturday, 2nd in Munich :-)
A380msu 7 months ago 10
@A380msu Ahh, lucky you. I'm so jealous!
ItzhakRoxMySox 7 months ago 6
@A380msu How did your Wagner experience in Munich go? We want to know, friend!
eric5906 1 day ago
Isn't this music used in the Great Dictator when Charlie Chaplin plays with the globe baloon?
alerommel1 7 months ago 3
@alerommel1 Indeed it is.
Wolfmester 7 months ago
@Wolfmester Great music and great movie! Thanks for the answer!
alerommel1 7 months ago
@alerommel1 Yep
wks1978 6 months ago
I wish this guy would disable comments.
MrWhatupchuck 7 months ago
@MrWhatupchuck
"I wish this guy would disable comments."
I agree. Music as beautiful as this leaves no room for comments.
jkhfilmvideo 2 months ago
This is indeed one of the most beautiful pieces of music Wagner wrote. His music moves me and my spirit in ways that other classical music composers cannot. His music will always trandsend his politics.
trancematic01 7 months ago
@trancematic01 Absolutely! The political discussion surrounding Wagner is pointless and seems to come from people who have no appreciation for music at any rate, so they must resort to ad hominem criticisms which have nothing to do with the music. So silly. Next they will be saying that the Tristan chord is a Fascist harmony as it could be viewed as a half diminished chord used out of the usual harmonic context.
acbulgin2 5 months ago
@acbulgin2 In fact, it should rightfully be called the Mussolini chord.
OldSchopenhauer 3 months ago
I have two images in mind when I hear this: Bobby Kennedy's funeral mass when Lyndon and Lady Bird were being seated and Chaplin's ballet with the globe.
1915fas 7 months ago
Richard Wagner, der Meister des Unterbewustseins.
potatoepeter1 7 months ago
stop judging the man and start judging the music.
jmk170393 7 months ago 19
@jmk170393
Good idea. It sucks.
DonZabu 1 month ago
Arby N The Chief!
zomzgwtf 7 months ago 6
@zomzgwtf umm... random?
HeyItsMeChadWarden 7 months ago
@HeyItsMeChadWarden Nope, this was used in a series called 'Arby N The Chief.' Just referencing why I came here in a non thumbs-up-whore way.
zomzgwtf 7 months ago
@zomzgwtf Yeah!
MrWhatupchuck 6 months ago
I just hate how in every single Wagner piece on youtube there is a Nazi debate going on.
RedBaronTDL 8 months ago 2
@RedBaronTDL Actually, I'm trying to go a bit deeper into this phenomenon than merely deploring (or enjoying) any supposed connection with National Socialism. History has had its way with the Nazis. WWII is long over, and Germany is now a prosperous and admirable country. What I'm discussing is the aforementioned Cult of Wagner, which is interesting in its own right. It makes the poignancy of pieces like this even more intense and complex, as art works. To deny this is intellectually dishonest.
Glencanon4au 8 months ago
La música del Valhalla... y Wagner tiene razón, los judíos son una mancha en la cultura alemana. Fuck jews!!!
AngelSC13 8 months ago
As an avid listener of Wagner's mustic, I have this to say about contemporary views of Wagner.
It seems undeniable to me that there exists a certain Cult of Wagner, which goes beyond a mere love of his music. Just as some people are attracted to members of the opposite sex who seem sinister or even criminal, so there exists a number of Wagner enthusiasts who secretly thrill at worshipping the music of a supposedly evil man. I wish this were not true. Nonetheless, I'm sure that it is.
Glencanon4au 8 months ago
@Glencanon4au I am admittedly a part of that cult. for me, the whole mythical wicked antisemitic musical genius wizard who influenced the Nazis,,yet was torn by his painful and often hateful seeking of the truth
Mirani2 8 months ago
@Mirani2 Because you have the insight and honesty to admit this, I suspect that you're probably a pretty decent person. Regarding Wagner, I feel that I have one foot in the Cult group, and the other foot planted firmly in the category of music lover. It probably isn't really possible for me to fully appreciate Wagner in any other way.
I enjoy the music of other composers within historical contexts (eg, Beethoven's political love/hate obsession with Napoleon Bonaparte). So why not Wagner?
Glencanon4au 8 months ago
@Glencanon4au Thanks! I have to say the whole "Cult of Wagner" thing makes it more mystical, makes the music more enjoyable knowing there's this aura AROUND the composer. It's almost like the area outside the fourth wall comes into play here. Not that the music itself doesn't measure up, it is awesome, but that the whole reality-merged-with-the-music-and-stories thing makes us feel there is a connection between the operas and real life.
Like Lord of th Rings is taken to smbolize Nazi Germny
Mirani2 8 months ago
@Glencanon4au With the utmost respect, what evidence can you produce to support this perception? There may be evil folks who enjoy Wagner, but the music did not make them evil, they were that way to begin with. The idea that a cult enjoy listening to Wagner JUST because he was supposedly an evil man seems absurd. Produce this cult of people who like Wagner just because he was supposedly evil, not because he was one of a handful of composers who changed the course of music.
acbulgin2 5 months ago
..if God exists: This is music for him. bytheway, Wagner was born long time before WII and his music and compositions have nothing to do with any political direction.
johnweiser1967 8 months ago
What Wagner was and what he wasn't, why does that matter? His music is all human.
Brullumdael 8 months ago
Doch, doch wunderbar und Erhaben!!!
hansgoering 8 months ago
Paradisiaca
Paradisiac
Paradiesisch
Lirico96 8 months ago
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Fuck you Wagner, he wrote this about Jews " harmful and alien element in German culture"
No wonder Hitler liked him so much.
ZedBazinga 8 months ago
Simplemente hermoso!
GasparVillot 9 months ago
If it's of any interest people, I'm a Jew and I love Wagner. So did Yehudi Menuhin. Wagner didn't hate Jews, some of his closest friends and supporters were Jewish. He just said Jewish music wasn't very Germanic and he was right, so will the politically correct twin set and pearls brigade who aren't Jewish, shut up and mind your own business
WolseleyAC 9 months ago 42
@WolseleyAC Agree mate, why should any ethnic-religious-racial opinion be regarded as an attack. We cant afford to enter in such a blind bigotry. It isnt hate to speak the truth. If his startpoint was as a german, it's his view. We should respect it in the same manner that we can tolerate to be adressed as goyim, auslander, farang, gringo or whatever. They arent in themselves hateful concepts, but references to a reality that ignorance fills with hatred..
atrofalo 8 months ago
@WolseleyAC Was Wagner considered to be anti-semitic?
neptunisregis11 7 months ago
@WolseleyAC "some of his closest friends were jewish". Wow amazing. 19 people thumbed up that? You're not fooling anyone with this sappy, ahistorical collaborator garbage.
LambChowder1 7 months ago
@WolseleyAC er, well, it would be speaking for someone I don't know to say 'Wagner hated Jews,' but his negative feelings toward them certainly extended further than "their music isn't Germanic" if we are to lend any credence to his writings.
ShawDAMAN 6 months ago
@WolseleyAC Thank you. I believe you are in good company. For my part, I am not terribly concerned with Wagner's personal views whatever they were. The music transcends any particular politics, and that's as it should be. What do you mean by "the politically correct twin set?" Do you mean people who parrot PC views? Also, please clarify "the pearls brigade" if you will. I am not familiar with the term. Cheers from Andrew in the USA!
acbulgin2 6 months ago
@acbulgin2 "Twin set and pearls brigade" is a UK term meaning Fearsome late-middle aged women.
wks1978 5 months ago
@WolseleyAC Ok, "twin set and pearls". I think I know what you mean...I think.
acbulgin2 6 months ago
@WolseleyAC BRAVO, Wolseley!!! Well Stated!!!
LeRinkRat 5 months ago
@WolseleyAC I like him too, but his antisemitism isn't all that easy to dismiss. What about the way he abused his conductor of Parsifal, whom he called "my Parsifal conductor." What about his famous quote: "It's not so bad if the world comes to an end, but if it's b/c of the Jews, that would be a shame." What about the jokes he made about the Jews dying at the fire in Vienna? What about the Jewish caricatures in the Ring cycle (namely Albrecht and Mime)? How do you address these problems?
NazTb0y 5 months ago
@WolseleyAC Also, Wagner's tirade was against a specific conductor, and his argument was racist--that Jews can't compose pure music b/c they're ethnically impure. I'm aware that Barenboim is Jewish as well as Levine (indeed, the most talented conductors tend to be Jewish or Asian these days!), & Wagner seemed to acknowledge their talent in his own time, but it was a reluctant acknowledgment in light of his racist theories & he never rescinded his claim about Jewish composition (far as I know).
NazTb0y 5 months ago
@WolseleyAC Bravo!!!
It's unbearable: every single Wagner's video in youtube holds this kind of fruitless discussion!
danilloclm 4 months ago
@WolseleyAC Bravo!!!
It's unbearable: every single Wagner's video in youtube holds this kind of fruitless discussion!
danilloclm 4 months ago
@WolseleyAC With all due respect, the reason why we have these politically correct idiot Goyim is because of a lifelong guilt complex has be instilled on them by the tribe. I can imagine it becoming so obnoxious as to infuriate even some Jews.
I think we all need to learn how to handle criticism, and not be quick to condemn others, especially men of genius like Wagner.
OldSchopenhauer 3 months ago
I like the fortissimo at 7:13
MrMrmike5 9 months ago 2
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MrMrmike5 9 months ago
Hitler painted, that means monet van gogh and miguel angelo are bad.
Hitler was a politician, that means every single politician is bad.
Hitler liked cheese, that means cheese is evil. Look out for the killer cheese!!!!
cogtroper 9 months ago 6
@cogtroper Hitler liked DIsney too! YOu know what that means! No more LITLLE MERMAID!!!
Mirani2 9 months ago 7
I do not see any connection to this music with anti-Semitism
PIETKIE 9 months ago
Great soundtrack to good sex with a significant other. Beautiful music!
larky1690 9 months ago
@larky1690 people who have sex to music are stupid. But I suppose I'd prefer this than Marvin Gaye's Let's Get It On...
Mirani2 9 months ago
Incredible music.
Everything else is irrelevant.
DjangoMan1963 9 months ago 5
this music is really inspiring!
fsanjur36 9 months ago
Wagner was not anti-Semitic. He did not favor Judaism... he even teased one of his "disciples", Anton Bruckner, for being Jewish; it was playful, though. He would not have supported Hitler at all. He was an ass, but not evil.
mannerpanner 9 months ago
i like how tetrisclock said goodbye then came back for more. someone is raged.
xdasmoosex 9 months ago
Lohengrin is my name *-*
vinypapini 9 months ago
I'm glad I've re-discovered this very beautiful piece of music again.
bd126248 10 months ago
This order to enjoy is slowly getting on my nerves, especially with this music it seems out of place.
You can't just enjoy Wagner!
unless of course you are experiencing pain.
mogotootzi 10 months ago
Some elements denounce the music composed by Richard Wagner
'cause man and music, so they say, is infamously racist.
If that's the logic, then denounce the American constitution
because its writers were involved and practice subjugation.
RTK
SuperAmorbach 10 months ago
Some elements denounce the music composed by Richard Wagner
'cause man and music, so they say, are infamously racist.
If that's the logic, then denounce the American constitution
because its writers were involved and practiced subjugation.
Rita Traut Kabeto
SuperAmorbach 10 months ago
I wonder anyone there come because of "Great Dictator"?
anguschan950911 10 months ago
I think it was intentional on Chaplin's part to put a Wagner song in the background of Hynkel dancing with the inflatable globe.
tetrisclock 10 months ago
Is there not a single clip of Wagner where some harebrain points out that Hitler loved Wagner and uses that as a knock against Wagner. We get it. Hitler loved Wagner. Yes, Wagner was antisemitic. What was that? Hitler loved Wagner? Who knew??
omnivorous65 10 months ago
I concur with the Findlandator. Being a musical genius doesn't guarantee a good character. What is good about Wagner is with us for all the world to share
alicelouise 10 months ago
great execution, this music is great, sweet harm. Grazie Wagner!:-* grandissimo maestro, grazie Toscanini.
foerster 11 months ago
This music is lovely. King Ludwig II loved his music the most!
shears1974 11 months ago
Just lovely ! for all human beings ! PEACE !
nini3945 11 months ago
Wagner may have been anti-semitist jerk, but his music is wonderful.
I must remind you people that back then being nationalist and racist was actually quite normal. EVEN Mahatma Gandhi was a passionate racist. He hated blacks more than anything and he didn't even keep them as humans...
You might respect Gandhi and Wagner, but they both were still racists; yet it doesn't make their achievements any less better. : /
TheFinlandnator 11 months ago 3
my father & I love wagner's music...he was half jewish and survived Dachau........He introduced me to thi sublime music...thank you for posting
kiwihans 11 months ago 4
@kiwihans I think Wagner's Ring series kind of has the sametruth to it as Nazi Germany- the Ring, symbolizing power, took over everybody's lives, and ruined everything, but the power of love conquered it all.
Mirani2 8 months ago
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wabosi 1 year ago
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wabosi 1 year ago
I don't understand it - are these people blaming Wagner for World War 2 and the Holocaust?
McGravity1 1 year ago 2
@McGravity1 1) He was an unapologetic anti-semite (though apparently he had Jewish friends. I'm not sure how that works) and 2) Hitler's favorite composer. The Nazis used his work extensively as propaganda. He didn't cause WWII or the Holocaust, but he's associated with them because of that. My personal philosophy is that the guy was a brilliant composer, but just because I like his music doesn't mean I have to like the man.
thevampirefrog06 1 year ago 3
@thevampirefrog06 True. Hitler most likely "loved" Wagners music due to the fact he knew that Wagner was antisemetic, therfore linking Wagners music to antisemetism. Would Hitler have loved Wagners music if Wagner wasn't antisemetic? Probably not.
muzomanoz 11 months ago
@muzomanoz I don''t get your logic which is clearly not based on documented evidence. Hitler loved and appreciated Wagner, his music and and his Musiktheater . Pure and simple. That does not take away the fact that he was a mass murderer. HItler was also a vegetarian, he loved animals and hated smoking. His architectural drawings were actually quite good. He was still a mass murderer despite the fact that he shared a good deal of the finer aspects of humanity.
omnivorous65 10 months ago
@omnivorous65 Hitler didn't actually kill anyone, he ordered others to kill. Jus' Sayin'
dragonash1993 10 months ago
@dragonash1993 he killed himself
tristicent 10 months ago
Apparently, 2 Justin Bieber fans watched this video.
lotr450 1 year ago 4
This is the music I imagine every time I picture any heavenly heroic knight
Mirani2 1 year ago
If Wagner certainly published (and re-published!) an essay dealing with jews and music he certainly was not antisemit! The point of his essay was that jews cannot composed good music (it is assumed to be reffering to Mendelssohn).
Though this position is highly debatable, Wagner was nothing but antisemit : he choosed a jewish chief for the premiere of Parsifal (Hermann levi), and has a lot of jewish friends.
chaprotlib 1 year ago
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wabosi 1 year ago
@wabosi: What does that have to do with anything? If you're saying that all Wagner-lovers are Nazis somewhere inside themselves, that's just as delusional as saying that whoever loves Rakhmáñinov or Chaykóvskiy must be a Stáljinst in the same way!!!
LJBSasha 1 year ago 2
@wabosi Arschloch
Salar73 1 year ago
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wabosi 11 months ago
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wabosi 11 months ago
It's incredible, the intuitive genuis that Wagner posessed. It's almost supernatural, and yet Wagner had a soul that was human, all-too-human. That he was an antisemite is one of the saddest things about his character, but it only demonstrates that talent and wisdom are two completely different things. These two traits seem to have no kinship at all. Strange.
Glencanon4au 1 year ago
It is near to impossible for me to reckon with anyone creating such extraordinarily beautiful music that brings me to tears every single time I'm blessed to hear it.
peter359 1 year ago
wagner was also very antisemetic and professed his anti jewish veiws in publick refering to Jews as being like vernim.However his musi is beyond doubt and should be judged seperatley from the composers personal veiws.
gcth1 1 year ago
@gcth1 where did you find this garbage and where did you learn low to spell?
watermelonred 1 year ago
@watermelonred
I never learned to spell as the Romanium Orphonage I grew up in never had English on the carriculam.
Luckily I did learn to read which is something I suggest you do.Baga-mi-as pula in ma-ta
gcth1 1 year ago
wagner was also very antisemetic and professed his anti jewish veiws in publick refering to Jews as being like vernim.However his musi is beyond doubt and should be judged seperatley from the composers personal veiws
gcth1 1 year ago
Very beautiful piece!
john5629az 1 year ago
Does any1 have the whole thing in parts that I could listen 2?
SopranoKayla1992 1 year ago
Perhaps the problem can now be solved by somebody checking out Solti's complete discography, see which timings (and playing-results from which orchestras) come closest to what's heard here and finally let the rest of us know...
LJBSasha 1 year ago
Who can disagree with heidistevenson's comment? Wagner leaves leaveyoubreathless breathless!
leavesyoubreathless 1 year ago
Wagner for all time. Sublime music from the paragon of composers who, along with Bach, was among the most gifted to have ever lived. Music such as this is belongs to a different world, to a race of angels. How fortunate are we, for this undeserved visitation, for this gift of music supreme.
heidistevenson 1 year ago
Here, for once, Richard Wagner is incontestably soft overall (even the loud climax feels like it logically follows from a basically gentle base)!!! [Not that I mind - Wagner had every reason to be loud when need be, and he's not usually loud for bombast's sake.] Beautiful, utterly ethereal stuff that really builds to its climax and then slowly scales down to an equally-visionary ending.
LJBSasha 1 year ago
How do I know this is Georg Solti an the Chicago Symphony? It just is. No other recent interpreter and orchestra has come close to Solti / Chicago (in my humble opinion). There is an indefinable "sweetness" to this orchestral playing that enables me to "pin-point" Solti / Chicago.
Wagner's music is etherial. If you like this you'll love the entire opera for a lifetime!
leavesyoubreathless 1 year ago
@leavesyoubreathless: It seems reasonably sure amongst those in the know that Solti is conducting this excerpt. However, might it be instead the Vienna Philharmonic (with whom he recorded the complete opera)?
LJBSasha 1 year ago
@LJBSasha You might very well be correct: this could well be the Vienna Philharmonic - thanks for your insight!
leavesyoubreathless 1 year ago
@leavesyoubreathless: you're welcome - I however don't see this as much of an insight, since Solti recorded most of his Wagner recordings (comprising all of the operas nowadays performed regularly) with the Wiener Philharmoniker (Vienna Philharmonic) under Decca/London's aegis. The only Wagner opera I definitely remember him recording with the Chicago Symphony was "Der Fliegende Holländer".
Regardless, this recording is lovely!!
LJBSasha 1 year ago
@leavesyoubreathless Wagner for all time. Sublime music from the paragon of composers who, along with Bach, was among the most gifted to have ever lived. Music such as this is belongs to a different world, to a race of angels. How fortunate are we, for this undeserved visitation, for this gift of music supreme.
heidistevenson 1 year ago
@leavesyoubreathless
I disagree - no one does Wagner like Maestro JAMES LEVINE and no one disputes that!
lovingee1 1 year ago
@leavesyoubreathless
I disagree - no one does Wagner like Maestro JAMES LEVINE and no one disputes that!
Barb T./NYC
lovingee1 1 year ago
Georg Solti and the Chicago Symphony Orchestra captured in a sublime Wagnerian moment. The remainder of the opera is equally encaptivating.
leavesyoubreathless 1 year ago
This is Solti and Chicago at their most sublime.
leavesyoubreathless 1 year ago
Immortal heavenly music!! ALL HAIL RICHARD WAGNER--WORLD'S GREATEST COMPOSER! ALL HAIL!!
windstorm1000 1 year ago
El compositor que mejor ha sabido expresar la experiencia humana. El que mejor supo traducir a notas los infinitos y laberínticos recovecos del ser humano!
arlecchino1892 1 year ago
I just saw this opera on Sunday. Enjoyed it immensely mostly for the preludes in each act.
Wickett01 1 year ago
One Sun, One Moon, likewise there is only One Wagner.
scarwarsnow 1 year ago
stop that bullshit about politics, jews. nazi, etc. enjoy this heavenly music you primitive morons!
IskraSonce 1 year ago 79
@IskraSonce
I totally agree!!!!!!
Barb T/NYC
lovingee1 1 year ago
my conductor describes this piece, as if one was ascending to heaven with angels at their wake...it's true :')
loyalfalconflutist 1 year ago
Thanks Teasercop, I totally agree.
Aleske 1 year ago
it seems that the only question that is important in the world is if you like or hate jews. All the lifework of a man, all his virtues, all his dreams all his moral is of secondary or no importance. If you like jews, no matter what kind of a murderer you are, you are blessed. If you hate them, you are damned. God damn the world!!!!!!
PANABURDACCS 1 year ago 3
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@PANABURDACCS Good said , thats actually true, no matter what this jewish parasites have done to European civilization, no matter what power they currently held, they have brainwashed so much the masses that the masses think that who ever dont like jews is a bad person!!! SUCH STUPIDITY IS CURRENTLY RULING THE WORLD
Napoleontas 1 year ago
I first heard this as a child of 10 while watching "The great Dictator". I remember thinking at the time, hearing this music and watching the scene where Hinkel plays with the terrestrial globe: oh yes what a noble deed it must be to conquer the world
khanzirose 1 year ago
@khanzirose Well the jewish bolshevist were declaring that they want to make all the world bolshevist , so to speak conquer the world, the British empire held 1\4 of the globes surface, the jewish owned USA is declaring that they are the masters of the world, but the one who never said or wanted ever to conquer the world , Adolf Hitler, is being acussed by his world ruling jewish enemies that he wanted to conquer the world !hahahahahah stupid masses
Napoleontas 1 year ago
@Napoleontas I was simply communicating the thoughts of the 10 year old in me, no need being serious about it... however, fact of the matter is that I am Lebanese, how do you think I feel about Zionist Jews?;p
khanzirose 1 year ago
@khanzirose Yes indeed, i was just used your thoughts in order to make the previous reasoning
Napoleontas 1 year ago
@Napoleontas ah ok cheers then :)
khanzirose 1 year ago
@khanzirose The music's good though :-)
matjiboktir 1 year ago
ugh how could such beautiful music come from a man of such a despicable nature
quinntissentialmusic 1 year ago
@quinntissentialmusic in the same way a delicious meal from yesterday can
turn into excreta today.....
jpandyaraja