@lilbullrider96 And if the horse's legs tangle in them? ""cause the rider a low score"" It's all about the contestants winning prizes with no concern about the animals.
Skunks spray for defense, horses run first for defense then they can manuver and kick a predator pretty handily. He was trying to do what comes naturally.
Horses run for their defense. Skunks spray and Horses run. They also kick with accuracy. The horse was going to run you're right. So why do you think that is?
well I rodeod years ago but now I won't go to one. It's not what it once was. I'll keep my bucks!
a horse's defense is not get a predator off it's back! It's defense is to run! thats how they get away from danger as well as wheeling and kicking. don't let amustang call you enemy! after he runs he kicks with great accuracy
you guys just need to quit crying about all the rodeo abuse, horses have an instinct to get predators off their backs so they buck, the flank strap is just to tickle them, if you don't know for sure how a rodeo works, ask someone that knows
@SHARKonlineorg Fun and prizes?? Like what? Broken bones? Long hours of driving? Getting bucked off? If they wanted fun and prizes they would go to a carnival an throw darts at balloons..........And since we only see this tiny clip of the ride how do we know that the judges didn't say something to the guy? Also, how did it change the behavior of the horse???
@SHARKonlineorg It's a way of life, and it's their job...and it's not an easy life. If all these people wanted to do was "have fun" and "harass animals" I bet they could think of ways to do that without risking their own life, health, and finances...but they don't. I wonder why?
@wildblue168 ""it's their job.."" ""risking their own life, health, and finances"" So their job is risking their finances? Why does that not make sense?
@SHARKonlineorg Yes, their job is risking their finances....they have no set pay, no hourly wages. They only get paid if they win, and if it happens to be a bad day, and they happen to draw a bad horse/bull, a fast calf or steer or just have a run of bad luck...they don't get paid. Yes there is considerable financial risk in their job. Sav vy?
Hey! Why do ya'll only focus on a few rodeos. Each rodeo is different, not all of them are cruel. The Cheyenne rodeo is known mostly for the cruelty. But yet ya'll have the balls to attack ALL rodeos. And YES not all horses are born to buck, but MOST ARE. Get facts on ALL rodeos, before you make an assumption.
@TheJadeReptile Thank you for thinking we're a large enough organization to attend every single rodeo. That said, every single rodeo we have ever attended has had some level of abuse. Large, small, border to border, coast to coast.
@SHARKonlineorg Their is SOME abuse in SOME of the rodeos, but not all of them. And I do admit SOME of the events are awful, but not all of them. Like the foal race, the calf roping/tying, the horse tripping, and they should be prosecuted for that....I just hate that you blame ALL rodeos, when they are ALL not the same.
@TheJadeReptile, actually, ALL horses are "born to buck". They buck in fear, to get rid of predators on their backs. The practice buck, in play, from a young age. They are not built, nor meant to buck overandoverandover. It's hard on them, especially if they are FORCED to buck, by the strap, and the cowboy layin' up there like he's on his lazy-boy in front of the TV. IF the cowboy sat up, and there was no strap, those horses likely wouldn't buck. No fun in THAT though, right? TONS of fun for you
wow ur fucking dumb!! the reason why he threw the chaps was to make the horse buck. it was a horse that runs off rightaway and then bucks. they threw the chaps to make the horse buck sooner so the horse and rider would get a better score u dumb fuckers should learn a little bit about rodeo and bucking horses before u start putting this shit on here.
@13milesk "he threw the chaps was to make the horse buck" Thank you for proving the rodeo propaganda lie that these animals are: born to buck; love what they do; know their job. If any of those were true, the idiots wouldn't have needed to throw the chaps.
Better score? Demonstrates the entire thing is rigged and biased to certain riders.
@SHARKonlineorg They are born to buck. Born and bred and raised in a natural environment to be stronger,healthier,and more efficient than any other horse. They are raised to be obedient and be nice but buck good when that chute opens. 8 seconds to live or die friend.
@sarge958 ""They are raised to be obedient and be nice but buck good when that chute opens"" If that was the case, they wouldn't have had to throw the chaps; nor would they need flank straps.
@SHARKonlineorg I understand that the chap throwing was a bit much. Normally they don't do that,but a flank strap I am not worried about. Flank straps do no harm other than make them buck to try and get it off. There are some bad apples in the rodeo but a well maintained and well prepared rodeo is ok.
that must hurt the poor horse... i know what its like... my sis has thrown my shamps at me... it really hurts... especially the metal part the zip and stuff
Learn how to pronounce chaps if you're going to have a whole 2:21 video dedicated to a ridiculous incident. Just so you know its a SH sound not a CHA sound. You sound even more like an idiot than you already are when you cant get your shit right on these videos.
@SHARKonlineorg and you are not commenting back? If you guys really want to "show animals respect and kindness" then you should be worried about animals on the streets that have no place to live or animals that are left for dead or inhuman slaughters....
@RSRBlackCinnamon Perhaps you can be everywhere all at the same time. In the real world, nobody can. If you're so worried about animals on the streets with no place to live and inhumane slaughter, do something about it. Stop complaining and criticizing people who are out there working for the animals.
@SHARKonlineorg Do you honestly think that throwing chaps on the ground at a horse's feet is cruel and corrupt? What possible injury could be sustained? Emotional damage? I've watched several of your videos with your uninformed, distorted commentary, and can only conclude that you were stuffed in a locker in high school by someone wearing a cowboy hat, and you're seeking revenge.
@tbc315 ""Do you honestly think that throwing chaps on the ground at a horse's feet is cruel and corrupt?"" It does blow the rodeo propaganda that these animals are born/bred to buck and that they love it right out of the water.
He Threw The Rodeo Chaps At The Horse To Make Him Buck You Stupid Fagot Ass Pussy Let Your Balls Drop Before All You Stupid Fuckers Started Crying That Was What Your Great Great Family Members Rode Horses To Break So When You Got On Them They Wouldnt Buck And Cowboys Can Be On The Arena Floor If They Want!!!!Dont Be Stupid Little Pussies All You Damn Tree Hugers Animal Abuse Is When You Beat Them Not Sit On Their Back And Poke Them With Spurs You Dont Fucking Make Their Guts Spill With Your Spur
If i ever met the man that operated SHARK, i would honestly beat him within a inch of his life. There is a difference between disagreeing with a sport and and completely trashing it in public,
@RuCocowboy Aren't you a stand-up human being. You would beat someone to within an inch of his life because of the way he talked about your alleged 'sport'. No wonder you have no problem abusing animals in rodeos.
There's a reason why we don't live the way we did back then. It's called civilization and learning from the mistakes of our past. Get with it. I'm an American and I appreciate the history of the west, but you don't see me brutalizing Native Americans or staging a Conestoga wagon across the nation. Oh and did you know dog fighting was once considered part of American culture? I bet nobody would jump the gun to support that proud American memory. There's ways to enjoy rodeo without cruelty.
This is a perfectly legal practice. Its called chapping a horse. Some bucking horses will take a big run and then start bucking after they hit top speed. This dangerous for both horse and rider. The stock contractor(owner of the horses)or one of his workers will throw the chaps at the horses feet to make him change direction and start bucking before he starts running. I've seen the chaps become entangled in the feet. Its not pretty for the chaps.
If you had half a brain you'd see this horse is coming out of the chute towards the cowboy. No cowboy I know would throw his "Chinks" (you should learn what you're talking about) at a horse without cause as they cost upwards of $300. You people are just out to stir up trouble. If you knew what rodeo stock was worth and actually took the time to see how it was treated you might actually understand that they're treated better than most domesticated animals.
@caldwellmtb If you knew anything about rodeo, you'd know no one stands in the arena in front of the bucking chute when a horse is coming out. Unless, of course, you're going to throw your 'chinks' at it.
And our videos show in great clarity how rodeo stock is 'treated' in the arena. Poorly.
@caldwellmtb so let me ask you Why is he even standing there ? holding those "chinks" as you call them ?? How is forcing an animal to bear a rider then forcing it to jump around when it doesn't want to , how is that being "treated better than most domesticated animals." How ? you do these things to your dogs and cats ?
@Respeckonize He Standing There Cause He Can!!And There Not Chinks There Rodeo Chaps You Stupid Fuck!!!Tose Animals Are Bread To Jump Around And After The First Couple Of Rides The Animals Love To Buck Thats What They Were Bread To DoStupid Fucking Pussy Dogs And Cats Are House Animals Not Arena Animals Cats And Dogs Are Not Bread BUCK!!!!!!!!
@BadVasquez77 Again, thank you for helping prove what we've been saying for years that rodeo animal abuse supportes are foulmouthed, unsocial lowlifes who can carry a civil conversation.
@caldwellmtb You should read what MrBop204 said. At least it makes more sense than the line of bull manure you laid out. Also what idiot stands in front of a chute with his hand cocked back if he isn't intending to throw the chaps in the first place? Maybe it's just me, but I am sure there were probably at least 50 or 60 other places he could stand.
i love how all you go after cheyenne and the prca and your suposed to shock them and your not gonna boycott anything i bet the rodeos that you did shut down or think you shut are still goin on when you dont know it bc that whole thinks your dumbass who should hab=ve the shit beat outta of
Just to clarify, the chaps were thrown infront of the horses feet to cause him to jump over them. The reason why chaps are thrown in most cases has to do with the fact that the horse will often take a run before bucking. Throwing the chaps at the horses feet create an obstacle for the animal to jump over. When the animal jumps the pressure from the flank strap is removed, this creates an incentive for the animal to continue to perform bucking.
@broncstompinben Just to clarify, that means these horses aren't born or bred to buck, but must be given several incentives--flank strap and thrown chaps--in order to accomplish that.
I agree with getting rid of some of the more inhumane things, but realize your never going to get rid of rodeo. It like saying done use dogs in hunting because they may be injured. no one who goes watches the rodeo WISHES these animals to be hurt, and none want to see it. Now the corrupt people behind the scenes are a different story, and im not defending them. But your missing the point of rodeo isnt all about animal abuse as your making it out to be
@SHARKonlineorg You rock haha. Guess what? theirs a lot of protesters for the Calgary Stampede! Its great! The sad thing about the rodeo is that its been over four days that the stampede was open and there is already dead horses!! We need you guys to protest Canada's shame! Thanks for taking time to read this.
@BerrySwingingJumper Yes, four horses and counting. They blather about constantly upgrading safety for the animals, but they've already exceeded last year's dead horse count. Despicable.
@ChevyTruckChick well your insane to think not... if you think being shocked in the face by 200 volts ,prodded with metal sticks and getting pulled by main and head into metal gaits isnt crual than your twisted if it happened to you im sure it would be crual dont you think... and im sure not all rodeos are like that but alot are and those need to be stoped
first off this vedio is stupid if yall actually think a pair of chaps r going to trip a horse ur full of shit..all yall tree huggin bastards think this happens at every rodeo... iv been to more rodeos in this country than i can remember and won more money in one weekend than alot of yall tree huggers make in a month so before u go talkin shit get ur shit straight
i bet you a thousnad buckss a horse aint going to trip over a pair of chaps they are soft wont interfere with the movement of the horse. secondly ill be more then happy to throw you out in front of the horse if you would much rather have that happen. thirdly you guys keep tryinto get rodeo done with and have you ever got anything done? NOOOO so give the fuck up
TeJay44: No spurs in Pittsburgh, no shocking at CFD, no jerkdowns in the upcoming San Antonio and Denver shows, steer busting not allowed during the Vegas NFR, just to name a few.
no spurs in Pittsburgh,no shocking, no jerkdowns shit that sounds to me like they taking away all the fun you and your boyfriend could ever have. you are a lost cause and your work is a lost cause. you wont change rodeo and you just piss them off so keep doing your thing and die knowing you were a fuck up
to spook the horse? So your saying that infact they do need to 'spook' ie: prey on the natural flight instincts of the horse to make it perform? And it is a big deal, a horse in flight mode can be dangerous, to both horse and rider.
kelliefan: equestrianracer said "could have", and that's a very real possibility; you even admitted so by continuing on saying "and if they did".
And if a horse did fall, there is also the very possibility that it could have become paralyzed or broken a leg or more, which is usually a death sentence, as well.
torturing an animal is sinning, u r causing pain to an innocent animal, doesnt matter what the bible says...we r human and god gave us the ability to think and feel but those people r brainless and heartless, god damn them all!!!
animals feel the pain as humans do, and torturing animals is more likely to be a bad thing than a good thing, doesnt matter what the bible says, we r humans and god gave us the ability to think and feel, but people like those are brainless and heartless. god damn them !
@huggibunny527 It is not such a bad thing, and causes no pain or injury to a horse ever. It is done when sometimes a horse will take what is called a run and run quite a distance before breaking and bucking, it is done to shorten that run up.
williamscash1: Aside from using these chaps on what all you rodeo people call horses "born to buck", the fool standing in the horse's way, and the throwing of his chaps caused this horse to run instead of preventing it.
Nope you are wrong, sorry, but maybe you should listen instead of telling people who have spent their whole life around horses and cattle from rodeo arenas to ranches. That is your problem you want to rant, but not actually learn facts.
I doubt that, Muck Boots came out in 1999. I've worn out 6 pairs since. If you still have the same pair of Muck boots you sure don't wear them much. Just another LIE from SHARC (Shit Heads Against Rodeo Cowboys).
jarhead222: sorry to burst your delusional bubble, bud, but muck, and the boots to wear in it, was around long before 1999.
And aren't you oh so inventive? Goes to show you don't have a reasonable argument, just an adolescent mindset for making up names. Go back to your sandbox.
gabbybella123: We mean no offense to Christians or any religion. What we consider 'bible babblers' are those who look to use the Bible as an excuse for their animal abuse. They know nothing of the Bible, except what they can quote to defend why they dominate and hurt animals.
HELLO?!?! If animals had no souls then THEY WOULDN'T ACTUALLY LIVE AND THEY WOULDN'T BE CALLED ANIMALS!!!!!!!!... (wow, some people are real idiots) [:-P
Okay, this video being shown as being "animal abuse" is absolutely absurd. It is a pair of chaps being thrown on the ground in front of the horse, so that the horse does not just run around the arena doing a half hearted buck. Sugarplum has a point that the horses ears are forward because the horse is focusing on the chaps and jumping over them, making the horse stop and buck. Its silly that the guys felt that they had to do that, cause yes the feet Could get tangled but is not very likely....
cottonsky1: This is not only an accident waiting to happen, but if you're going to pretend rodeo is a sport, what is a third party doing interfering in the supposed "competition?"
If the horse is "born to buck," why do you have to throw things at him?
would you mind showing all of my first comment please, there are two more paragraphs there, or dont want to show those ones cause I made good points in them
cottonsky1: Yes, we do mind. This is our account, and you'll neither dominate it with a zillion posts, nor will you tell us how to handle things.
If you don't like that, you can post on the comment areas of the rodeo associations. Oh -- that's right! The rodeo associations DON'T HAVE comment sections. Too much to hide, right?
Um, last I checked, throwing chaps at a horse won't make them buck. Maybe it will make them run away or spook - which is not what you want to happen here...
If this horse has any problem with those chaps being thrown at his feet (or with any other part of his job, for that matter, including the bucking strap)...
WHY are his ears pricked forward the ENTIRE TIME?
watch the video. Even while he's in the chute, his ears are pricked. newsflash: horses PIN THEIR EARS when they are upset. I would expect even an ignorant fool like you, shark, to know this. So please, explain for me why his ears aren't back.
sugarplum938: One of SHARK's latest videos is of the death of the horse Strawberry Fudge in Cheyenne a couple weeks ago. That video also includes scenes of other horses in various degrees of distress. The all have their ears forward. So according to you they were enjoying their distress, and SF was looking forward to her own demise.
Any time someone makes a simplistic claim as you have, we know we're dealing with a poser. Go play pretend cowboy somewhere else. No one is buying it here.
So you're saying that Strawberry Fudge PURPOSELY flipped like that, INTIONALLY falling in a way that injureed her and caused her to die. (assuming, that is, that injuries sustained in the fall are, in fact, what killed her. I haven't done research yet, but do they have PROOF of her cause of death?)
I am not a cowboy, nor did I ever claim (or pretend) to be one. I do, however, own my own (happy & healthy) horses.
sugarplum938: Sure CFD people know why she died. They just won't share. After all, they already are in trouble for claiming there were only seven injuries when video documentation shows there were dozens.
That doesn't give me the information I wanted for THAT question, let alone my other questions - which you oh-so-cleverly ignored. I am not at all surprised that you "answered" that question rather than the other question, for which I imagine it might be a bit harder to give such a vague and unhelpful non-answer.
Or, since I know your history of failing to approve of comments that don't say quite what you want them to say (or, for that matter, posting and then deleting them), here's a summarized version:
Horses pin their ears when they're angry and very probably about to make an aggressive move. This horse's ears are forward (and also tilt if you watch the chute exit) because he/she's listening and anticipating the release. All the horses from CFD2009, including Strawberry Fudge and the one which went over the dugout that SHARK filmed had their ears forward/tilted even as they were injured/struggling to get to their feet. So, your explanation of fear=pinned ears is erroneous.
You obviously haven't studied horse behavior in depth. Yes, horses put their ears back when they're upset, noramlly when they're angry, and YES they do keep their ears forward when they're content BUT what you don't seem to understand is the difference between forward ears that mean content/happy and forward ears that mean scared.
When a horse is bucking, their ears are normally forward so they can keep and eye on where they're going BUT if their nostrils are flared and they're tense with ears forward it means they're extremely scared.
Do your research. Take some classes on natural horse manship with you and your horse, and learn the body language of a horse correctly.
mymacai: The web site of the PRCA calls the events tie-down roping instead of calf roping, steer wresting instead of bulldogging, and single steer roping instead of steer busting or steer tripping.
Stop the argument. It's not our people who have to change names, it's yours.
ApplesCarrotsnGrain: You're spamming. Don't try to write a book here. Make a comment or two, but don't play games, we have neither the time nor patience for it.
Before you start crying about not getting to do whatever you want here, remember that the PRCA, IPRA, NHSRA etc. allow no commentary at all. Zero.
Any time you're on a horse, there is a potential for an accident. Your horse could step in a hole, something could spook the horse. It goes w/the territory. And, horses don't need to have a flank strap, spurs or whatever to buck. I've been bucked off my horse b4, and she continued to buck once I was off! I've seen my horse run and buck in the field. There was nothing to scare her, she wasn't being chased. She was bucking for the fun of it, along w/ 2 of her friends.
Arablvr: Rodeo horses don't buck in their pens. We've watched them for hours, many, many times. They only buck when the strap is pulled the spurs are applied, and often when they are shocked.
Actually, the bucking strap is there as a CUE to tell the horse it's time to buck. My mom's mare used to be a ranch horse and was also used for bronc work. She wasn't afraid of people and we could still get her to crow hop a little while riding if we pressed a hand on her croup. She never pinned her ears at this or acted mad, upset or fearful. It isn't much different than using a bridle and reins to cue the horse to stop, turn, etc.
ApplesCarrotsnGrain: A cue, eh? A cue that they just happen to hate. Use another cue. if they're born to buck, they'll do just fine with a cue that they don't hate.
Well now that is simply not true either. Horses buck just because they can. all the time. Why would you expect them to be bucking in their pens. You can't buck something OFF if nothing is ON.
They may not buck in the pen because they don't have the room to buck.. I've only been to one rodeo in my life, and didn't go behind the scenes. But, I've spent quite a bit of time just watching horses being horses. And, they run, they buck, they jump, they rear, all for the sheer joy of it. And, horses don't need to have something thrown in front of them to trip any more than you or I do. Ever trip over your own feet? Ever misjudge a step?
Actually she is right. Horses usually buck while in forward motion. Meaning while running. The holding pens are generally small--not inducive to running. My horses buck for joy while running across their pasture all the time. Having fun and plenty of room.
Horses don't spend their life just bucking. Just because they don't buck in their pens doesn't mean squat. I've seen my horse and 2 of her friends buck in the field. They're the only ones out of the 9 in that field.
Playing is one thing. The horse WANTS to buck. It's fun.
When the horse is forced into a chute, has a bucking cinch applied to a sensitive area, and something thrown at it; the horse is obviously NOT having fun and is NOT happy and is only bucking out of instinct and fear.
And I'm wondering why you STILL haven't gotten on the case of the Suicide Race in WA. That is much more senseless and dangerous to the horses than bronc riding in a rodeo.
Well, so far you've only covered regular run of the mill rodeos. Why are YOU wasting your time trying to make a huge deal about something that isn't abuse when you could be tackling something that really is abusive?
OOOO!!! Big response to the debate. I think you're losing your touch. You don't have anything knowledgeable to add to this debate, do you? You STILL haven't answered the question on why SHARK has yet to do anything about the Suicide Race. Still waiting.......what? Got noting to add?? (crickets chirping)
ApplesCarrotsnGrain: It's a matter of mathematics. There are hundreds of rodeos and a few of us. Let me get this straight. You feel the Suicide Race is an important issue, and we (not you) are the ones who should deal with it?
Here is what I am seeing. I am seeing a bunch of city boys/girls who really know NOTHING of horses and livestock trying to interpret what they are seeing with ZERO knowlege of it. Claiming to know better than the folks who live with them, care for them, depend on them, all the time. Makes no sense. Can't believe anyone buys the hype, actually.
mymacai: Here is what we are seeing. We are seeing a bunch of westernized circus performers masquerading as cowboys. These people don't know the history of the west, but nevertheless claim to be protecting their heritage. While claiming to be champions of tradition, they changed event names such as "calf roping" to "tie down roping." They changed "steer busting" to "steer tripping" and then changed it again to "single steer roping." The list goes on and on. Phony cowboys. Posers all.
See, that is the problem. You don't KNOW what you are seeing. And it is still called calf roping, and bulldogging around here. And MANY of the folks you see at the rodeo here on Saturday are back on the ranch on Monday. Posers? Hardly.
mymacai: Yes, we know what you call these events privately. That's my point. To the rest of the world it is called something else by those professional liars otherwise known as rodeo announcers, or by rodeo association spin doctors. Why even the spin doctors have misleading titles such as "humane coordinator."
And if not for 'entertainment' ... what would we DO with horses in 2009?
Horses die everywhere and for all reasons, horses in the wild die from a simple stone bruise that makes them slow enough for a predator to catch them.
Life isn't about Bubble Wrap, Shark. Get out in the trenches and do some good for a change instead of dressing in drag and partying at America's most fun rodeo venues.
quarterflash1133: To start with, stop breeding them. Rodeo contractors breed horses, sending the rejects to slaughter, along with used up and beat up animals.
That's not what I'm suggesting, what I am trying to get across is in this video you are showing a horse who is obviously enjoying what he's doing, ears forward, moving forward. The chaps, they are folded and yes, there is a 0.1% chance that they could have unfolded, and it was only done so the horse would buck! The horse was just running prior.
I'm trying to say is there are horses dying of starvation, they need our immediate help. Rodeos can wait
I just wanted to add another comment based on the horse and it's current attitude in that video. A horse in fear and pain will bring it's head up and pin it's ears.. not something you see in this video - horse is very head down getting to what it enjoys apparently, that is bucking.
I'm not a rodeo person, I am a horse person. I'm not trying to pull a shell/misdirection game. You obviously have not been around horses. That's a horse with a job he loves to do. He's forward, and willing.
Thanks Shark for not posting what my comment actually was.
As for horses being injured and killed, it would seem that the Rodeo Management for Cheyenne needs to review the Code of Ethics that they have, but I won't go further into it as I wasn't there and don't know the details.
I will still stand by my comment, please check your local horse owners before commenting on these fat well maintained horses. There are plenty starving/abused locally from oblivious/ignorant owners.
So you are suggesting that the only way a horse can be abused is by starvation? Rodeos are obviously abuse, regardless of what or how much they feed them.
I take some offense to your blanket statement Shark. "Rodeos are obviously abuse" People ride horses in rodeos, do you consider that abuse? This statement is simply too broad to be said in your stand point. Are you also saying that your ancestors abused animals in their every day life when they tried to survive? Should we not have done these things and died? All of the events in a Rodeo come from what people in America and everywhere else did to survive.
TheWolvenLunacy: Some rodeo events are are perverted spinoffs of ranch work. Others have no relation whatsoever. Bull riding and steer wrestling played no part in ranch work. The wild horse race, as was admitted in the Cheyenne Frontier Days own literature this year, was originally an activity for the town drunks. Calf roping, steer busting and the equine bucking events are the opposite of what they once were. Not training or branding for service, but instead put at risk for entertainment.
Give me a break. Abusive? Not in any way, shape or form. Thank goodness most people will hear the obvious manipulative slant in the narrative and resent it and tune it out. That horse is obviously well fed and cared for. Those chaps did not hurt him in any way. There is plenty of real abuse out there. None of it is on this video.
mymacai: Again, the focus on this video is the unsporting nature of rodeos. There also could have been an accident. I realize that rodeo supporters always have to play a shell game of trying to refocus, but the video clearly shows what happened.
Wow... chaps, seriously. As someone already mentioned, they were folded so the horse could not have gotten his legs caught in them. My weanling foal went through more trauma yesterday when I rode his dam away from him. And my other mare was freely running and bucking in her pasture as she was "feeling her oats". No pressure to perform, just her enjoyment. If you're going to pick on something, please drive around and report the starving horses in your area.. they need more help than this one
sjohnson9206: You should see our most recent videos of horses injured and killed at the 2009 Cheyenne Rodeo. It will really give you a good idea of how much they love them.
You know, there is a lot of real abuse out there so why get hung up on something like this? Did you do any research on the stock contractor? Have you seen their facility and how the horses are kept in fine condition? There are much more serious concerns out there such as abandoned and neglected horses, Mexican rodeos, and slaughter transport that you could be focusing on instead. This video is a waste of time, honestly.
I'm sorry to say that this action is not in any sense of the matter cruel. Have you ever personally sacked a horse out? Desensitized a horse? Honestly throwing a pair of folded up chaps (folded up, safety in mind so the horse DOESN'T trip) is less fear inducing than taking a foal away from it's dam for the first time. If you want a cause to fight for please find people who are actually causing harm to their horses. Like the horses dieing daily from people simply not feeding them.
Unsporting conduct has nothing to do with abuse done to the animal. It has to do with the people. If that is what video is suppose to be about your should change your narritave. As I also stated in my post the chaps are folded up with safety in mind so the horse won't trip. Have you ever trained a horse and sacked out like I asked? Do you know what hobbles are? They are more dangerous that a folded up pair of chaps but are an essential training tool used very often.
What a moment is Shark not one person?? I see multiple explainations of one post. One simple, that other trying to explain.. How many people am I talking to here as Shark? I'm getting a bit confused.
If this is cruel, I'd hate to see what he thinks about some of the things I've done to my ponies, like pop balloons near them, jump up and down screaming like an idiot and other things to make noise and movement. But then again, I'd rather have my ponies used to all kinds of things b4 I put a child on their back. Less chance of something unexpected scaring the pony, and the child getting injured.
Funny thing is, I don't rodeo. Never have. But I've been around horses for years. Maybe you should try it? Read the body language. Look how they interact in the wild or in the pasture. Reread Arablvrs post. She makes great points. Most horse people are not cruel. In fact, we find it funny or annoying when uneducated people, and animal rights groups...make incorrect and outrageous assumptions, simply because they don't even understand what's going on in the horse's mind.
It's not a endangerment to the animal its to make them buck rather than run and cause the rider a low score. Don't be stupid
lilbullrider96 3 weeks ago
@lilbullrider96 And if the horse's legs tangle in them? ""cause the rider a low score"" It's all about the contestants winning prizes with no concern about the animals.
SHARKonlineorg 3 weeks ago
Skunks spray for defense, horses run first for defense then they can manuver and kick a predator pretty handily. He was trying to do what comes naturally.
marty6947 2 months ago
Horses run for their defense. Skunks spray and Horses run. They also kick with accuracy. The horse was going to run you're right. So why do you think that is?
well I rodeod years ago but now I won't go to one. It's not what it once was. I'll keep my bucks!
marty6947 2 months ago
a horse's defense is not get a predator off it's back! It's defense is to run! thats how they get away from danger as well as wheeling and kicking. don't let amustang call you enemy! after he runs he kicks with great accuracy
marty6947 2 months ago
you guys just need to quit crying about all the rodeo abuse, horses have an instinct to get predators off their backs so they buck, the flank strap is just to tickle them, if you don't know for sure how a rodeo works, ask someone that knows
jonnelson15 2 months ago
@jonnelson15 Our videos clearly show how rodeos work. It harasses and harms animals for fun and prizes.
SHARKonlineorg 2 months ago
@SHARKonlineorg Fun and prizes?? Like what? Broken bones? Long hours of driving? Getting bucked off? If they wanted fun and prizes they would go to a carnival an throw darts at balloons..........And since we only see this tiny clip of the ride how do we know that the judges didn't say something to the guy? Also, how did it change the behavior of the horse???
wildblue168 1 month ago
@wildblue168 If the purpose of rodeo is not to win prizes and have fun, aside from harassing and harming animals, what is its purpose?
SHARKonlineorg 1 month ago
@SHARKonlineorg It's a way of life, and it's their job...and it's not an easy life. If all these people wanted to do was "have fun" and "harass animals" I bet they could think of ways to do that without risking their own life, health, and finances...but they don't. I wonder why?
wildblue168 1 month ago
@wildblue168 ""it's their job.."" ""risking their own life, health, and finances"" So their job is risking their finances? Why does that not make sense?
SHARKonlineorg 1 month ago
@SHARKonlineorg Yes, their job is risking their finances....they have no set pay, no hourly wages. They only get paid if they win, and if it happens to be a bad day, and they happen to draw a bad horse/bull, a fast calf or steer or just have a run of bad luck...they don't get paid. Yes there is considerable financial risk in their job. Sav vy?
wildblue168 1 month ago
@wildblue168 Then it's not a job. It's a hobby.
SHARKonlineorg 1 month ago
what you know about rodeo you chickens coudnt handle one our of what we do a day
tprodeo 6 months ago
@tprodeo That's rather stupid thinking an animal abuse investigation organization would even consider abusing an animal as you do.
SHARKonlineorg 6 months ago
Hey! Why do ya'll only focus on a few rodeos. Each rodeo is different, not all of them are cruel. The Cheyenne rodeo is known mostly for the cruelty. But yet ya'll have the balls to attack ALL rodeos. And YES not all horses are born to buck, but MOST ARE. Get facts on ALL rodeos, before you make an assumption.
TheJadeReptile 6 months ago
@TheJadeReptile Thank you for thinking we're a large enough organization to attend every single rodeo. That said, every single rodeo we have ever attended has had some level of abuse. Large, small, border to border, coast to coast.
SHARKonlineorg 6 months ago
@SHARKonlineorg Their is SOME abuse in SOME of the rodeos, but not all of them. And I do admit SOME of the events are awful, but not all of them. Like the foal race, the calf roping/tying, the horse tripping, and they should be prosecuted for that....I just hate that you blame ALL rodeos, when they are ALL not the same.
TheJadeReptile 6 months ago
@TheJadeReptile, actually, ALL horses are "born to buck". They buck in fear, to get rid of predators on their backs. The practice buck, in play, from a young age. They are not built, nor meant to buck overandoverandover. It's hard on them, especially if they are FORCED to buck, by the strap, and the cowboy layin' up there like he's on his lazy-boy in front of the TV. IF the cowboy sat up, and there was no strap, those horses likely wouldn't buck. No fun in THAT though, right? TONS of fun for you
AnimalLeftist 5 months ago in playlist Rodeo Investigations by SHARK
wow ur fucking dumb!! the reason why he threw the chaps was to make the horse buck. it was a horse that runs off rightaway and then bucks. they threw the chaps to make the horse buck sooner so the horse and rider would get a better score u dumb fuckers should learn a little bit about rodeo and bucking horses before u start putting this shit on here.
13milesk 6 months ago
@13milesk "he threw the chaps was to make the horse buck" Thank you for proving the rodeo propaganda lie that these animals are: born to buck; love what they do; know their job. If any of those were true, the idiots wouldn't have needed to throw the chaps.
Better score? Demonstrates the entire thing is rigged and biased to certain riders.
SHARKonlineorg 6 months ago
@SHARKonlineorg They are born to buck. Born and bred and raised in a natural environment to be stronger,healthier,and more efficient than any other horse. They are raised to be obedient and be nice but buck good when that chute opens. 8 seconds to live or die friend.
sarge958 6 months ago
@sarge958 ""They are raised to be obedient and be nice but buck good when that chute opens"" If that was the case, they wouldn't have had to throw the chaps; nor would they need flank straps.
SHARKonlineorg 6 months ago
@SHARKonlineorg I understand that the chap throwing was a bit much. Normally they don't do that,but a flank strap I am not worried about. Flank straps do no harm other than make them buck to try and get it off. There are some bad apples in the rodeo but a well maintained and well prepared rodeo is ok.
sarge958 6 months ago
@sarge958 ""Flank straps do no harm other than make them buck"" Make them buck? Contradicts your 'obedient' claim.
SHARKonlineorg 6 months ago
that must hurt the poor horse... i know what its like... my sis has thrown my shamps at me... it really hurts... especially the metal part the zip and stuff
sophanator99 7 months ago
Now why would some one throw a pair of chaps at a horse just to stomped on and money LMFAO
froggy2766 7 months ago in playlist Rodeo Investigations by SHARK
Learn how to pronounce chaps if you're going to have a whole 2:21 video dedicated to a ridiculous incident. Just so you know its a SH sound not a CHA sound. You sound even more like an idiot than you already are when you cant get your shit right on these videos.
WyoCowgirl509 9 months ago
@WyoCowgirl509 Calling animal abuse shit. Yeah, that figures from a fool with a username like yours.
SHARKonlineorg 9 months ago
ummm there not born to buck r u stupid they torture em wowowow
MrCookieBanana 10 months ago
Ok people are really stupid! really your going to throw stuff!? but again not ALL rodeos are like this....
RSRBlackCinnamon 1 year ago
@RSRBlackCinnamon Just to remind you, these are PRCA members doing this. What's your rodeo association?
SHARKonlineorg 1 year ago
@SHARKonlineorg small rodeos around my town. Its harsh to say that everyone does this to the rodeo animals though...
RSRBlackCinnamon 1 year ago
@RSRBlackCinnamon Where did you hear us use the word 'everyone'?
SHARKonlineorg 1 year ago
@SHARKonlineorg and you are not commenting back? If you guys really want to "show animals respect and kindness" then you should be worried about animals on the streets that have no place to live or animals that are left for dead or inhuman slaughters....
RSRBlackCinnamon 1 year ago
@RSRBlackCinnamon Perhaps you can be everywhere all at the same time. In the real world, nobody can. If you're so worried about animals on the streets with no place to live and inhumane slaughter, do something about it. Stop complaining and criticizing people who are out there working for the animals.
SHARKonlineorg 1 year ago
@SHARKonlineorg Do you honestly think that throwing chaps on the ground at a horse's feet is cruel and corrupt? What possible injury could be sustained? Emotional damage? I've watched several of your videos with your uninformed, distorted commentary, and can only conclude that you were stuffed in a locker in high school by someone wearing a cowboy hat, and you're seeking revenge.
tbc315 10 months ago
@tbc315 ""Do you honestly think that throwing chaps on the ground at a horse's feet is cruel and corrupt?"" It does blow the rodeo propaganda that these animals are born/bred to buck and that they love it right out of the water.
SHARKonlineorg 10 months ago
He Threw The Rodeo Chaps At The Horse To Make Him Buck You Stupid Fagot Ass Pussy Let Your Balls Drop Before All You Stupid Fuckers Started Crying That Was What Your Great Great Family Members Rode Horses To Break So When You Got On Them They Wouldnt Buck And Cowboys Can Be On The Arena Floor If They Want!!!!Dont Be Stupid Little Pussies All You Damn Tree Hugers Animal Abuse Is When You Beat Them Not Sit On Their Back And Poke Them With Spurs You Dont Fucking Make Their Guts Spill With Your Spur
BadVasquez77 1 year ago
@BadVasquez77 Thank you for proving our point about lowlifes that support rodeo animal abuse. You help our mission greatly.
SHARKonlineorg 1 year ago
If i ever met the man that operated SHARK, i would honestly beat him within a inch of his life. There is a difference between disagreeing with a sport and and completely trashing it in public,
RuCocowboy 1 year ago
@RuCocowboy Aren't you a stand-up human being. You would beat someone to within an inch of his life because of the way he talked about your alleged 'sport'. No wonder you have no problem abusing animals in rodeos.
SHARKonlineorg 1 year ago
i had a rodeo clown shoot a 410 in the air while i was riding.....its just having fun
scoovy99 1 year ago
@AdorkableLex SHARK investigators
SHARKonlineorg 1 year ago
There's a reason why we don't live the way we did back then. It's called civilization and learning from the mistakes of our past. Get with it. I'm an American and I appreciate the history of the west, but you don't see me brutalizing Native Americans or staging a Conestoga wagon across the nation. Oh and did you know dog fighting was once considered part of American culture? I bet nobody would jump the gun to support that proud American memory. There's ways to enjoy rodeo without cruelty.
popsicles2 1 year ago
This is a perfectly legal practice. Its called chapping a horse. Some bucking horses will take a big run and then start bucking after they hit top speed. This dangerous for both horse and rider. The stock contractor(owner of the horses)or one of his workers will throw the chaps at the horses feet to make him change direction and start bucking before he starts running. I've seen the chaps become entangled in the feet. Its not pretty for the chaps.
MrBop204 1 year ago
@MrBop204 Thank you for debunking the born/bred to buck nonsense.
SHARKonlineorg 1 year ago
If you had half a brain you'd see this horse is coming out of the chute towards the cowboy. No cowboy I know would throw his "Chinks" (you should learn what you're talking about) at a horse without cause as they cost upwards of $300. You people are just out to stir up trouble. If you knew what rodeo stock was worth and actually took the time to see how it was treated you might actually understand that they're treated better than most domesticated animals.
caldwellmtb 1 year ago
@caldwellmtb If you knew anything about rodeo, you'd know no one stands in the arena in front of the bucking chute when a horse is coming out. Unless, of course, you're going to throw your 'chinks' at it.
And our videos show in great clarity how rodeo stock is 'treated' in the arena. Poorly.
SHARKonlineorg 1 year ago
@caldwellmtb so let me ask you Why is he even standing there ? holding those "chinks" as you call them ?? How is forcing an animal to bear a rider then forcing it to jump around when it doesn't want to , how is that being "treated better than most domesticated animals." How ? you do these things to your dogs and cats ?
Respeckonize 1 year ago
@Respeckonize He Standing There Cause He Can!!And There Not Chinks There Rodeo Chaps You Stupid Fuck!!!Tose Animals Are Bread To Jump Around And After The First Couple Of Rides The Animals Love To Buck Thats What They Were Bread To DoStupid Fucking Pussy Dogs And Cats Are House Animals Not Arena Animals Cats And Dogs Are Not Bread BUCK!!!!!!!!
BadVasquez77 1 year ago
@BadVasquez77 Again, thank you for helping prove what we've been saying for years that rodeo animal abuse supportes are foulmouthed, unsocial lowlifes who can carry a civil conversation.
SHARKonlineorg 1 year ago
@caldwellmtb You should read what MrBop204 said. At least it makes more sense than the line of bull manure you laid out. Also what idiot stands in front of a chute with his hand cocked back if he isn't intending to throw the chaps in the first place? Maybe it's just me, but I am sure there were probably at least 50 or 60 other places he could stand.
MrThor221 1 year ago
i love how all you go after cheyenne and the prca and your suposed to shock them and your not gonna boycott anything i bet the rodeos that you did shut down or think you shut are still goin on when you dont know it bc that whole thinks your dumbass who should hab=ve the shit beat outta of
cowboy2495 1 year ago
@cowboy2495 ""and your suposed to shock them"" Thanks for calling the PRCA rules against shocking a fallacy.
SHARKonlineorg 1 year ago
Just to clarify, the chaps were thrown infront of the horses feet to cause him to jump over them. The reason why chaps are thrown in most cases has to do with the fact that the horse will often take a run before bucking. Throwing the chaps at the horses feet create an obstacle for the animal to jump over. When the animal jumps the pressure from the flank strap is removed, this creates an incentive for the animal to continue to perform bucking.
broncstompinben 1 year ago
@broncstompinben Just to clarify, that means these horses aren't born or bred to buck, but must be given several incentives--flank strap and thrown chaps--in order to accomplish that.
SHARKonlineorg 1 year ago
how do you know the caps wernt through for the horses safty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
NickiRocky 1 year ago
NickiRocky: Are you attempting to say the chaps were thrown for the horse's safety?
Seriously?
SHARKonlineorg 1 year ago
@SHARKonlineorg maybe i am!
NickiRocky 1 year ago
NickiRocky: You don't know what you're trying to say? Go back to your plaype until you learn how to socialize with people.
SHARKonlineorg 1 year ago
I agree with getting rid of some of the more inhumane things, but realize your never going to get rid of rodeo. It like saying done use dogs in hunting because they may be injured. no one who goes watches the rodeo WISHES these animals to be hurt, and none want to see it. Now the corrupt people behind the scenes are a different story, and im not defending them. But your missing the point of rodeo isnt all about animal abuse as your making it out to be
02dodgecowgirl 2 years ago
02dodgecowgirl: Until you get rid of the corrupt people behind the scenes, corruption and abuse are major points of rodeo.
SHARKonlineorg 2 years ago
bull shit!! rodeo people dont abuse the animals!!
ChevyTruckChick 1 year ago
ChevyTruckChick: Our 100+ rodeo videos clearly prove you wrong.
SHARKonlineorg 1 year ago
@SHARKonlineorg You rock haha. Guess what? theirs a lot of protesters for the Calgary Stampede! Its great! The sad thing about the rodeo is that its been over four days that the stampede was open and there is already dead horses!! We need you guys to protest Canada's shame! Thanks for taking time to read this.
BerrySwingingJumper 1 year ago
@BerrySwingingJumper Yes, four horses and counting. They blather about constantly upgrading safety for the animals, but they've already exceeded last year's dead horse count. Despicable.
SHARKonlineorg 1 year ago
@ChevyTruckChick well your insane to think not... if you think being shocked in the face by 200 volts ,prodded with metal sticks and getting pulled by main and head into metal gaits isnt crual than your twisted if it happened to you im sure it would be crual dont you think... and im sure not all rodeos are like that but alot are and those need to be stoped
hannahblackwolf14 1 year ago
first off this vedio is stupid if yall actually think a pair of chaps r going to trip a horse ur full of shit..all yall tree huggin bastards think this happens at every rodeo... iv been to more rodeos in this country than i can remember and won more money in one weekend than alot of yall tree huggers make in a month so before u go talkin shit get ur shit straight
TheCalfroper12 2 years ago
TheCalfroper12: The need to throw the chaps proves the rodeo propaganda 'born/bred to buck' is pure nonsense.
SHARKonlineorg 2 years ago
How does your making money at this prove he's full of it? All it proves is you make money. Big whoop.
P.S. I could buy your peanuts earning ass and ten others like you. Don't prove jack.
wgtetz 1 year ago
i bet you a thousnad buckss a horse aint going to trip over a pair of chaps they are soft wont interfere with the movement of the horse. secondly ill be more then happy to throw you out in front of the horse if you would much rather have that happen. thirdly you guys keep tryinto get rodeo done with and have you ever got anything done? NOOOO so give the fuck up
TeJay44 2 years ago
TeJay44: No spurs in Pittsburgh, no shocking at CFD, no jerkdowns in the upcoming San Antonio and Denver shows, steer busting not allowed during the Vegas NFR, just to name a few.
Yes, it's getting done.
SHARKonlineorg 2 years ago
no spurs in Pittsburgh,no shocking, no jerkdowns shit that sounds to me like they taking away all the fun you and your boyfriend could ever have. you are a lost cause and your work is a lost cause. you wont change rodeo and you just piss them off so keep doing your thing and die knowing you were a fuck up
TeJay44 2 years ago
TeJay44: Go back to playing with the little boys in your backyard. Your nonsense is a waste of time.
SHARKonlineorg 2 years ago
ha ha this is rediculous
jreddq 2 years ago
the chaps were thrown but no one was hurt the behavior of the horse was basically what the horse was bred too do buck!
MsBrokeTooManyTimes 2 years ago
MsBrokeTooManyTimes: If the horse was bred to buck, why throw the chaps?
SHARKonlineorg 2 years ago
too spook the horse it inst much of a big deal any how
MsBrokeTooManyTimes 2 years ago
to spook the horse? So your saying that infact they do need to 'spook' ie: prey on the natural flight instincts of the horse to make it perform? And it is a big deal, a horse in flight mode can be dangerous, to both horse and rider.
GoGadgetHookerClean 2 years ago
The horse could have tripped over the chaps and could have died... (especially if you watch sharks other videos where they kill horses!!!!)
equestrianracer604 2 years ago
OMG! Are you for real! A horse wouldnt have tripped over the chaps, and if they did it wouldnt kill them!
kelliefan1017 2 years ago
kelliefan: equestrianracer said "could have", and that's a very real possibility; you even admitted so by continuing on saying "and if they did".
And if a horse did fall, there is also the very possibility that it could have become paralyzed or broken a leg or more, which is usually a death sentence, as well.
SHARKonlineorg 2 years ago
torturing an animal is sinning, u r causing pain to an innocent animal, doesnt matter what the bible says...we r human and god gave us the ability to think and feel but those people r brainless and heartless, god damn them all!!!
larosha90 2 years ago
animals feel the pain as humans do, and torturing animals is more likely to be a bad thing than a good thing, doesnt matter what the bible says, we r humans and god gave us the ability to think and feel, but people like those are brainless and heartless. god damn them !
larosha90 2 years ago
why is throwing the chaps at the horse such a bad thing its not like the chaps even hit the horse
huggibunny527 2 years ago
huggibunny527: What's the purpose of throwing them in the first place? Why not throw them at the rider?
SHARKonlineorg 2 years ago
@huggibunny527 It is not such a bad thing, and causes no pain or injury to a horse ever. It is done when sometimes a horse will take what is called a run and run quite a distance before breaking and bucking, it is done to shorten that run up.
williamscash1 2 years ago
williamscash1: Aside from using these chaps on what all you rodeo people call horses "born to buck", the fool standing in the horse's way, and the throwing of his chaps caused this horse to run instead of preventing it.
SHARKonlineorg 2 years ago
Nope you are wrong, sorry, but maybe you should listen instead of telling people who have spent their whole life around horses and cattle from rodeo arenas to ranches. That is your problem you want to rant, but not actually learn facts.
williamscash1 2 years ago
williamscash1: I've got muck boots older than you. Take your presumed knowledge someplace else.
SHARKonlineorg 2 years ago
@SHARKonlineorg
I doubt that, Muck Boots came out in 1999. I've worn out 6 pairs since. If you still have the same pair of Muck boots you sure don't wear them much. Just another LIE from SHARC (Shit Heads Against Rodeo Cowboys).
jarhead222 2 years ago
jarhead222: sorry to burst your delusional bubble, bud, but muck, and the boots to wear in it, was around long before 1999.
And aren't you oh so inventive? Goes to show you don't have a reasonable argument, just an adolescent mindset for making up names. Go back to your sandbox.
SHARKonlineorg 2 years ago
animals have no souls read the bible
irishtiger7862 2 years ago
irishtiger7862: A bible babbler who supports animal abuse. If this is the book you're going to follow through for life, better study it more.
SHARKonlineorg 2 years ago
please don't call christians bible babbler's.
gabbybella123 2 years ago
gabbybella123: We mean no offense to Christians or any religion. What we consider 'bible babblers' are those who look to use the Bible as an excuse for their animal abuse. They know nothing of the Bible, except what they can quote to defend why they dominate and hurt animals.
SHARKonlineorg 2 years ago
what?!? - i'm a christian and i know it specifically says in the bible that animals are ours to CARE for and for food.
these animals aren't being used for food and are certainly not being cared for.
gabbybella123 2 years ago
HELLO?!?! If animals had no souls then THEY WOULDN'T ACTUALLY LIVE AND THEY WOULDN'T BE CALLED ANIMALS!!!!!!!!... (wow, some people are real idiots) [:-P
equestrianracer604 2 years ago
I love animals and i have been to many redeos but in have never seen any crulty at all
Icefang1000 2 years ago
Icefang1000: Some people don't realize what they're seeing when it happens in a matter of seconds.
SHARKonlineorg 2 years ago
Okay, this video being shown as being "animal abuse" is absolutely absurd. It is a pair of chaps being thrown on the ground in front of the horse, so that the horse does not just run around the arena doing a half hearted buck. Sugarplum has a point that the horses ears are forward because the horse is focusing on the chaps and jumping over them, making the horse stop and buck. Its silly that the guys felt that they had to do that, cause yes the feet Could get tangled but is not very likely....
cottonsky1 2 years ago
cottonsky1: This is not only an accident waiting to happen, but if you're going to pretend rodeo is a sport, what is a third party doing interfering in the supposed "competition?"
If the horse is "born to buck," why do you have to throw things at him?
SHARKonlineorg 2 years ago
would you mind showing all of my first comment please, there are two more paragraphs there, or dont want to show those ones cause I made good points in them
cottonsky1 2 years ago
cottonsky1: Yes, we do mind. This is our account, and you'll neither dominate it with a zillion posts, nor will you tell us how to handle things.
If you don't like that, you can post on the comment areas of the rodeo associations. Oh -- that's right! The rodeo associations DON'T HAVE comment sections. Too much to hide, right?
SHARKonlineorg 2 years ago
Um, last I checked, throwing chaps at a horse won't make them buck. Maybe it will make them run away or spook - which is not what you want to happen here...
wrangler409 2 years ago
How rude!!!!!!! What did the horses do to him?
nowly67 2 years ago
If this horse has any problem with those chaps being thrown at his feet (or with any other part of his job, for that matter, including the bucking strap)...
WHY are his ears pricked forward the ENTIRE TIME?
watch the video. Even while he's in the chute, his ears are pricked. newsflash: horses PIN THEIR EARS when they are upset. I would expect even an ignorant fool like you, shark, to know this. So please, explain for me why his ears aren't back.
sugarplum938 2 years ago
sugarplum938: One of SHARK's latest videos is of the death of the horse Strawberry Fudge in Cheyenne a couple weeks ago. That video also includes scenes of other horses in various degrees of distress. The all have their ears forward. So according to you they were enjoying their distress, and SF was looking forward to her own demise.
Any time someone makes a simplistic claim as you have, we know we're dealing with a poser. Go play pretend cowboy somewhere else. No one is buying it here.
SHARKonlineorg 2 years ago
looking forward to her own demise?
You think she knew what was about to happen?
So you're saying that Strawberry Fudge PURPOSELY flipped like that, INTIONALLY falling in a way that injureed her and caused her to die. (assuming, that is, that injuries sustained in the fall are, in fact, what killed her. I haven't done research yet, but do they have PROOF of her cause of death?)
I am not a cowboy, nor did I ever claim (or pretend) to be one. I do, however, own my own (happy & healthy) horses.
sugarplum938 2 years ago
sugarplum938: Sure CFD people know why she died. They just won't share. After all, they already are in trouble for claiming there were only seven injuries when video documentation shows there were dozens.
SHARKonlineorg 2 years ago
That doesn't give me the information I wanted for THAT question, let alone my other questions - which you oh-so-cleverly ignored. I am not at all surprised that you "answered" that question rather than the other question, for which I imagine it might be a bit harder to give such a vague and unhelpful non-answer.
sugarplum938 2 years ago
Or, since I know your history of failing to approve of comments that don't say quite what you want them to say (or, for that matter, posting and then deleting them), here's a summarized version:
Care to answer my other questions?
sugarplum938 2 years ago
Horses pin their ears when they're angry and very probably about to make an aggressive move. This horse's ears are forward (and also tilt if you watch the chute exit) because he/she's listening and anticipating the release. All the horses from CFD2009, including Strawberry Fudge and the one which went over the dugout that SHARK filmed had their ears forward/tilted even as they were injured/struggling to get to their feet. So, your explanation of fear=pinned ears is erroneous.
guardianofanimals 2 years ago
You obviously haven't studied horse behavior in depth. Yes, horses put their ears back when they're upset, noramlly when they're angry, and YES they do keep their ears forward when they're content BUT what you don't seem to understand is the difference between forward ears that mean content/happy and forward ears that mean scared.
JacketTalent 2 years ago
When a horse is bucking, their ears are normally forward so they can keep and eye on where they're going BUT if their nostrils are flared and they're tense with ears forward it means they're extremely scared.
Do your research. Take some classes on natural horse manship with you and your horse, and learn the body language of a horse correctly.
JacketTalent 2 years ago
mymacai: The web site of the PRCA calls the events tie-down roping instead of calf roping, steer wresting instead of bulldogging, and single steer roping instead of steer busting or steer tripping.
Stop the argument. It's not our people who have to change names, it's yours.
SHARKonlineorg 2 years ago
I think it's interesting that only one of my comments has been posted and not in the order that I wrote. WHY?? And where are my other comments??
ApplesCarrotsnGrain 2 years ago
ApplesCarrotsnGrain: You're spamming. Don't try to write a book here. Make a comment or two, but don't play games, we have neither the time nor patience for it.
Before you start crying about not getting to do whatever you want here, remember that the PRCA, IPRA, NHSRA etc. allow no commentary at all. Zero.
SHARKonlineorg 2 years ago
Any time you're on a horse, there is a potential for an accident. Your horse could step in a hole, something could spook the horse. It goes w/the territory. And, horses don't need to have a flank strap, spurs or whatever to buck. I've been bucked off my horse b4, and she continued to buck once I was off! I've seen my horse run and buck in the field. There was nothing to scare her, she wasn't being chased. She was bucking for the fun of it, along w/ 2 of her friends.
Arablvr 2 years ago
Arablvr: Rodeo horses don't buck in their pens. We've watched them for hours, many, many times. They only buck when the strap is pulled the spurs are applied, and often when they are shocked.
SHARKonlineorg 2 years ago
Actually, the bucking strap is there as a CUE to tell the horse it's time to buck. My mom's mare used to be a ranch horse and was also used for bronc work. She wasn't afraid of people and we could still get her to crow hop a little while riding if we pressed a hand on her croup. She never pinned her ears at this or acted mad, upset or fearful. It isn't much different than using a bridle and reins to cue the horse to stop, turn, etc.
ApplesCarrotsnGrain 2 years ago
ApplesCarrotsnGrain: A cue, eh? A cue that they just happen to hate. Use another cue. if they're born to buck, they'll do just fine with a cue that they don't hate.
SHARKonlineorg 2 years ago
Well now that is simply not true either. Horses buck just because they can. all the time. Why would you expect them to be bucking in their pens. You can't buck something OFF if nothing is ON.
mymacai 2 years ago
mymacai: This makes no sense.
SHARKonlineorg 2 years ago
They may not buck in the pen because they don't have the room to buck.. I've only been to one rodeo in my life, and didn't go behind the scenes. But, I've spent quite a bit of time just watching horses being horses. And, they run, they buck, they jump, they rear, all for the sheer joy of it. And, horses don't need to have something thrown in front of them to trip any more than you or I do. Ever trip over your own feet? Ever misjudge a step?
Arablvr 2 years ago
Arablvr: Stop it, they have room.
SHARKonlineorg 2 years ago
Actually she is right. Horses usually buck while in forward motion. Meaning while running. The holding pens are generally small--not inducive to running. My horses buck for joy while running across their pasture all the time. Having fun and plenty of room.
mymacai 2 years ago
mymacai: Asked and answered. In the pens I am thinking about in Cheyenne and some other rodeos, they have plenty of room. There is no bucking.
SHARKonlineorg 2 years ago
It would be few rodeos indeed that had pens inducive to running and bucking. Doesn't change the fact that horses buck for pleasure all the time.
mymacai 2 years ago
mymacai: Nevertheless, in the pens where they do have room, they do not buck.
SHARKonlineorg 2 years ago
Horses don't spend their life just bucking. Just because they don't buck in their pens doesn't mean squat. I've seen my horse and 2 of her friends buck in the field. They're the only ones out of the 9 in that field.
Arablvr 2 years ago
Arablvr: Sure, they buck all the time, everywhere, except for all the times that we are watching and filming them over the past 16 years.
Sure thing.
SHARKonlineorg 2 years ago
Guess you havent been watching the right horses, mine do in their pen and they arent bronc horses. They get feeling frisky and start playing.
cottonsky1 2 years ago
cottonsky1: We're going to post some footage of those "wild, bucking" animals at Cheyenne, as they stand placidly in their pens.
SHARKonlineorg 2 years ago
Playing is one thing. The horse WANTS to buck. It's fun.
When the horse is forced into a chute, has a bucking cinch applied to a sensitive area, and something thrown at it; the horse is obviously NOT having fun and is NOT happy and is only bucking out of instinct and fear.
JacketTalent 2 years ago
And I'm wondering why you STILL haven't gotten on the case of the Suicide Race in WA. That is much more senseless and dangerous to the horses than bronc riding in a rodeo.
ApplesCarrotsnGrain 2 years ago
ApplesCarrotsnGrain: Feel free to jump right on that issue.
SHARKonlineorg 2 years ago
Well, so far you've only covered regular run of the mill rodeos. Why are YOU wasting your time trying to make a huge deal about something that isn't abuse when you could be tackling something that really is abusive?
ApplesCarrotsnGrain 2 years ago
ApplesCarrotsnGrain: You're wondering why all your posts don't get approved? Here is an excellent example why.
SHARKonlineorg 2 years ago
OOOO!!! Big response to the debate. I think you're losing your touch. You don't have anything knowledgeable to add to this debate, do you? You STILL haven't answered the question on why SHARK has yet to do anything about the Suicide Race. Still waiting.......what? Got noting to add?? (crickets chirping)
ApplesCarrotsnGrain 2 years ago
ApplesCarrotsnGrain: It's a matter of mathematics. There are hundreds of rodeos and a few of us. Let me get this straight. You feel the Suicide Race is an important issue, and we (not you) are the ones who should deal with it?
Say good-bye.
SHARKonlineorg 2 years ago
Here is what I am seeing. I am seeing a bunch of city boys/girls who really know NOTHING of horses and livestock trying to interpret what they are seeing with ZERO knowlege of it. Claiming to know better than the folks who live with them, care for them, depend on them, all the time. Makes no sense. Can't believe anyone buys the hype, actually.
mymacai 2 years ago
mymacai: Here is what we are seeing. We are seeing a bunch of westernized circus performers masquerading as cowboys. These people don't know the history of the west, but nevertheless claim to be protecting their heritage. While claiming to be champions of tradition, they changed event names such as "calf roping" to "tie down roping." They changed "steer busting" to "steer tripping" and then changed it again to "single steer roping." The list goes on and on. Phony cowboys. Posers all.
SHARKonlineorg 2 years ago
See, that is the problem. You don't KNOW what you are seeing. And it is still called calf roping, and bulldogging around here. And MANY of the folks you see at the rodeo here on Saturday are back on the ranch on Monday. Posers? Hardly.
mymacai 2 years ago
mymacai: Yes, we know what you call these events privately. That's my point. To the rest of the world it is called something else by those professional liars otherwise known as rodeo announcers, or by rodeo association spin doctors. Why even the spin doctors have misleading titles such as "humane coordinator."
SHARKonlineorg 2 years ago
SHUT UP AND SAY THAT TO MY FACE!!!! I'm from L.A. yet I own 5 horses and 3 livestock animals!!!
equestrianracer604 1 year ago
And if not for 'entertainment' ... what would we DO with horses in 2009?
Horses die everywhere and for all reasons, horses in the wild die from a simple stone bruise that makes them slow enough for a predator to catch them.
Life isn't about Bubble Wrap, Shark. Get out in the trenches and do some good for a change instead of dressing in drag and partying at America's most fun rodeo venues.
quarterflash1133 2 years ago
quarterflash1133: To start with, stop breeding them. Rodeo contractors breed horses, sending the rejects to slaughter, along with used up and beat up animals.
SHARKonlineorg 2 years ago
Once again, you haven't posted my comments.
That's not what I'm suggesting, what I am trying to get across is in this video you are showing a horse who is obviously enjoying what he's doing, ears forward, moving forward. The chaps, they are folded and yes, there is a 0.1% chance that they could have unfolded, and it was only done so the horse would buck! The horse was just running prior.
I'm trying to say is there are horses dying of starvation, they need our immediate help. Rodeos can wait
sjohnson9206 2 years ago
I just wanted to add another comment based on the horse and it's current attitude in that video. A horse in fear and pain will bring it's head up and pin it's ears.. not something you see in this video - horse is very head down getting to what it enjoys apparently, that is bucking.
I'm not a rodeo person, I am a horse person. I'm not trying to pull a shell/misdirection game. You obviously have not been around horses. That's a horse with a job he loves to do. He's forward, and willing.
sjohnson9206 2 years ago
Thanks Shark for not posting what my comment actually was.
As for horses being injured and killed, it would seem that the Rodeo Management for Cheyenne needs to review the Code of Ethics that they have, but I won't go further into it as I wasn't there and don't know the details.
I will still stand by my comment, please check your local horse owners before commenting on these fat well maintained horses. There are plenty starving/abused locally from oblivious/ignorant owners.
sjohnson9206 2 years ago
sjohnson9206: Your comment is posted.
So you are suggesting that the only way a horse can be abused is by starvation? Rodeos are obviously abuse, regardless of what or how much they feed them.
SHARKonlineorg 2 years ago
I take some offense to your blanket statement Shark. "Rodeos are obviously abuse" People ride horses in rodeos, do you consider that abuse? This statement is simply too broad to be said in your stand point. Are you also saying that your ancestors abused animals in their every day life when they tried to survive? Should we not have done these things and died? All of the events in a Rodeo come from what people in America and everywhere else did to survive.
TheWolvenLunacy 2 years ago
TheWolvenLunacy: Some rodeo events are are perverted spinoffs of ranch work. Others have no relation whatsoever. Bull riding and steer wrestling played no part in ranch work. The wild horse race, as was admitted in the Cheyenne Frontier Days own literature this year, was originally an activity for the town drunks. Calf roping, steer busting and the equine bucking events are the opposite of what they once were. Not training or branding for service, but instead put at risk for entertainment.
SHARKonlineorg 2 years ago
Give me a break. Abusive? Not in any way, shape or form. Thank goodness most people will hear the obvious manipulative slant in the narrative and resent it and tune it out. That horse is obviously well fed and cared for. Those chaps did not hurt him in any way. There is plenty of real abuse out there. None of it is on this video.
mymacai 2 years ago
mymacai: Again, the focus on this video is the unsporting nature of rodeos. There also could have been an accident. I realize that rodeo supporters always have to play a shell game of trying to refocus, but the video clearly shows what happened.
SHARKonlineorg 2 years ago
So why is it that you will post a response to me, but will not post what I originally wrote to you regarding this video? Cowardly much?
mymacai 2 years ago
Ah there it is.
mymacai 2 years ago
Wow... chaps, seriously. As someone already mentioned, they were folded so the horse could not have gotten his legs caught in them. My weanling foal went through more trauma yesterday when I rode his dam away from him. And my other mare was freely running and bucking in her pasture as she was "feeling her oats". No pressure to perform, just her enjoyment. If you're going to pick on something, please drive around and report the starving horses in your area.. they need more help than this one
sjohnson9206 2 years ago
sjohnson9206: You should see our most recent videos of horses injured and killed at the 2009 Cheyenne Rodeo. It will really give you a good idea of how much they love them.
SHARKonlineorg 2 years ago
You know, there is a lot of real abuse out there so why get hung up on something like this? Did you do any research on the stock contractor? Have you seen their facility and how the horses are kept in fine condition? There are much more serious concerns out there such as abandoned and neglected horses, Mexican rodeos, and slaughter transport that you could be focusing on instead. This video is a waste of time, honestly.
MoonLitOaksRanch 2 years ago
MoonLitOaksRanch: The video demonstrates unsporting conduct and a potential for an accident.
SHARKonlineorg 2 years ago
I'm sorry to say that this action is not in any sense of the matter cruel. Have you ever personally sacked a horse out? Desensitized a horse? Honestly throwing a pair of folded up chaps (folded up, safety in mind so the horse DOESN'T trip) is less fear inducing than taking a foal away from it's dam for the first time. If you want a cause to fight for please find people who are actually causing harm to their horses. Like the horses dieing daily from people simply not feeding them.
TheWolvenLunacy 2 years ago
TheWolvenLunacy: The video demonstrates unsporting conduct and a potential for an accident.
SHARKonlineorg 2 years ago
Unsporting conduct has nothing to do with abuse done to the animal. It has to do with the people. If that is what video is suppose to be about your should change your narritave. As I also stated in my post the chaps are folded up with safety in mind so the horse won't trip. Have you ever trained a horse and sacked out like I asked? Do you know what hobbles are? They are more dangerous that a folded up pair of chaps but are an essential training tool used very often.
TheWolvenLunacy 2 years ago
TheWolvenLunacy: Rodeos aren't training, they are misguided entertainment.
SHARKonlineorg 2 years ago
What a moment is Shark not one person?? I see multiple explainations of one post. One simple, that other trying to explain.. How many people am I talking to here as Shark? I'm getting a bit confused.
TheWolvenLunacy 2 years ago
TheWolvenLunacy: SHARK is an organization. You are not always communicating with the same person.
SHARKonlineorg 2 years ago
If this is cruel, I'd hate to see what he thinks about some of the things I've done to my ponies, like pop balloons near them, jump up and down screaming like an idiot and other things to make noise and movement. But then again, I'd rather have my ponies used to all kinds of things b4 I put a child on their back. Less chance of something unexpected scaring the pony, and the child getting injured.
Arablvr 2 years ago
*Gasp!* Not CHAPS!!! Oh myyyy!!!
Am I only one who laughed at this video?
DoubleSCallsIt 2 years ago
DoubleSCallsIt: We expect lots of rodeo people laugh, cause they have no concept of sporting conduct.
Thinking people get it. Trust me.
SHARKonlineorg 2 years ago
Funny thing is, I don't rodeo. Never have. But I've been around horses for years. Maybe you should try it? Read the body language. Look how they interact in the wild or in the pasture. Reread Arablvrs post. She makes great points. Most horse people are not cruel. In fact, we find it funny or annoying when uneducated people, and animal rights groups...make incorrect and outrageous assumptions, simply because they don't even understand what's going on in the horse's mind.
DoubleSCallsIt 2 years ago
I say that Sharkonline is totally illegitimate and cowardly. 'Comment Pending Approval'.
Sure glad you're in the minority and don't make the rules.
quarterflash1133 2 years ago