BBC News - 13.22 hrs - Ahmadiyya Muslim Association 8.12.10.mp4

[TheJaleedoctor]

ek dum baqwas jammat

[yawyankali]

Ahmadiyya Muslims believe that their founder is a prophet, the Mahdi, and Messiah. The Qur'an itself says that Prophet Muhammad Peace Be Upon Him is the last and final messenger of God. How could Mirza Ghulam Ahmad claim he is the Mahdi and Messiah at the same time?

[dancaeser]

@yawyankali Brother " Khatamaan nabiyeen" literally means seal of prophets and indicates that prophet Muhammeed is the greatest and holliest from all the prophets, he is perfect in every askect.So the objection that we dont believe in "khatamaan nabiyeen" is totally false and baseless. And there is a hadith ( Muslim, Ch:`Zikrud-Dajjal`) where the holy prophet Muhammed himself called the coming messiah "Prophet" 4 times in a single Hadith.

[yawyankali]

@dancaeser brother, thanks for the respectful reply. could you please tell me where do you read the hadith. the only thing i read is the Qur'an.

[dancaeser]

@yawyankali Brother watch this video. Many questions are answered here. Watch all the 4 parts.

/watch?v=4wxbwZPfrp8&feature=g­-all-u&context=G2b33dc9FAAAAAA­AAAAA

[dancaeser]

Why do all my non-ahmadi brothers use such a abusive language? Is this what they learn from their molvies?? Use abusive language, kill innocenct people, promote hatred, Is this the Islam you represent???

[abooomar2]

fuckkkkkkkkk ahmadiyya not muslims

[TechnozapEditorz]

Ahmadiyyat Zindabad Ahmdiyya Will Progress More And More You Guys Cannot Defeat Us No Longer

[afmnasiruddin01]

mta.tv

[rajput4243]

may ALLAH bless and help us

[rajput4243]

Ahmadiyya Muslim

[prototype00000]

fake muslim infiltrators talking nonsense for publicity

[46zawisza]

muslim is a bitches ONLY WHITE EUROPE

[gonikhan1]

@46zawisza never gona happen

[ishamael0]

ahmedis are not muslims. i mean who the hell is ghulam mirza? some no body who claimed to be a prophet. what message did the fool bring anyway? what new laws?

islam and the quran is finished and completed. what new meesage does it needs from a mad man?

[scrpio23]

u cant call them muslims becoz they r following mirza gulam ahmed qadyani who made a new religion.after that now these people r not muslims they r (non muslims) qadyianies.

[unseenocean]

@scrpio23 yes they are kuffar but what about all the other millions who call themselves muslims but have kufr and shirk beliefs, such as belief in democracy, secularism etc? Ahmadiyya (Qadiani) are one sect of kufr among an ummah that has now become dominant with kufr views.

[scrpio23]

tell me one thing is christian and jewish same...?Judaism(yahodi) they followed HAZRAT MUSA(as) and when ALLAH sent jesus(issa)as then these jewish who accepet jesus(as) they became christian,i want to ask u what u will call them christian or jewish??? definitely christians.becoz prophet is changed now.ok now come to the point how can qadyanies r muslims...???

[invader5659]

ahmediya r fals muslim go away. palestin no like u

[emaadN70]

Woud any one tell me the name of that reporter??

[Exposingantiahmadiya]

Why is akber choudhry always laughing like a squirrel? on bbc then on aljazeeera?

[MAROOF322]

Bastard ahmadiya



[shantymehsud]

mera bas nai chalta in haam zadon ahmadies ko safha e hasti se mita doon......mjhe so dafa zindagi milay sr baar piaray nabi MUHAMMAD MUSTUFA pe qurban kar dun...khatm e nabuwwat zinda bad...

[shah3915]

Ahmadiyya jamat waly joty sally jooty han

[hunker87]

true muslims? the one who calls him/her self for ahmadiyyah, following this dajjal is a kafir. Allah having sex? with a man? Allah prays and fast? Having a son? Ahmad being Allahs sperm? Allahu subahana wa Ta'ala compared with a octipus? Allah does wring and right? Allah is free from all that! may Allah guide the qadiniyyah, for surely they have followed a great deciever, a dajjal

[donnav786]

@hunker87 where have u read all this nonsense? do not fabric lies against ahmadis without doing your research, we condone no such notions

[hunker87]

@donnav786

this nonsense is from your "holy prophet" mirza ghulam ahmad, and THIS IS RESEARCH, ghulam ahamd said this, and i didnt say YOU condone, i said that he ghulam ahmad did, i have all the evidence here, i have the statement, and the books and the pages, there are 2 kinds of ahmadiyyah, one who confirm prophethood after the last prophet muhammad salla Allahu alayhi wa sallam, and another one who likes him, but not as a prophet, how can anyone even like him for what he said? fear Allah

[donnav786]

@hunker87 holy prophet? and we have stated that where?

and yes please show me this evidence, it astounds me how people read things for face value without actually looking into it with a moment of thought, brilliant!

h t t p:// w w w.youtube.com/watch?v=BVxS4MeD­M6w

that will help explain everything, as usual non-ahmadis are quick to jump to horrific and quite DISGUSTING conclusions about things ahmadis say, so watch this when u have the time thanks

[hunker87]

"The Lord said to me:" You are from me and I am from you. "Wahi-ul-Muqaddas, page. 650, by Ghulam Ahmad

[hunker87]

"Allah spoke to me and said," Listen to me, my son. "Al-Bushra (1 / 49), of Ghulam Ahmad.

[hunker87]

"Allah told me:" You are from my sperm cells while they come from cowardice. "Indjâm Âthim, sid. 55, av Ghulâm Ahmad.

[hunker87]

"I am the only one who claims to be Maryam." Footnote to "Haqîqat-ul-Wahi," p.. 337, of Ghulam Ahmad.

[hunker87]

Yar Muhammad al-Qâdiyânî said:

"The promised messiah (ahmad) said his stages, and said:" I saw myself as a woman and Allah brought His male sex organs in me. "Dhahiyyat-ul-Islam, p.. 47, of Yar Muhammad.

[sajila16]

@hunker87 there is no one existing as Yar Muhammad al-Qadiyani.it is a made up lie. i think that these things can only come from ur kind of imagination!

[hunker87]

@sajila16

ur right theres no one existing like mirza ghulam ahmad, not anymore Alhamdulillah for that, and no it is not a made up lie he really existed and himself lied, his son said that anyone who is not a qadiyani is not a muslim, and that it is not allowed to pray behind anyone who is not an ahmadi, mirza ghulam ahmad was a dajjal, a great deciever, and you have seen my proof from his books and pages and you have nothing that can counter my proof because u have no proof, may Allah guide u

[hunker87]

"We can think of Allah's existence by saying that he has countless number of hands and feet. Their length and width has no end. Just like an octopus. "Tawdhîh-ul-Marâm, page. 75, of Ghulam Ahmad.

[hunker87]

He also said:

"I saw in revelation how I hand over many papers to Allah (Ta'ala) to sign them and confirm the requirements I had proposed. I saw how Allah wrote in the paper with red ink. "Haqîqat-ul-Wahi, p.. 255, of Ghulam Ahmad.

[hunker87]

He also said:

"Allah told me:" I am with the messenger. I answer and do wrong and right. "Al-Bushra (2 / 79), of Ghulam Ahmad.

[hunker87]

Qâdiyâniyyahs false prophet Ghulam Ahmad said:

"Allah told me:" I pray and I fast. I forget and I sleep. "Al-Bushra (2 / 97), of Ghulam Ahmad.

[hunker87]

ahmadiyyah/qadaniyyah are kuffar because they confirm prophethood after prophet muhammad, doesnt matter how peaceful and cultish are, they believe and confirm prophethood after prophet Muhammad salla Allahu alayhi wa sallam, may Allah give Ghulum Ahmad what he deserves

[sqaish]

please ahmadiyya pple the prophet muhammed SAW was the last messenger, so make dua and become a sunni muslim and you will be successful for ever in the hearafter.

[RealSherKhan]

@sqaish can u give me a proof from Quran where its mentioned that Hazrat(SAW) was the last prophet.I will give u proof from Quran where it is mentioned that a Prophet (non law bearing) can come After Muhammad (saw).First you give me the proof...

lets see your understanding of Quran and Islam.

[sqaish]

@RealSherKhan brother go on, what signs did u recieve?

[AashiqeMustafa1]

Ager hamarai Mukhalif suchai hotai tao Allah Pak unhein zarroor Nawazatta. Kiyoonke Allah Pak apnai Peyaroon ko kabhi akela nhi chorata. her medaan mein Kamiyaabi o Nusrat sai Nawazatta hai. kiyoonke wo apnai wa,adoon ka Sucha Khuda hai. hamarai Mukhalif kiyoon zalleel o Khawar ho rehai hein. aapas mein aik dooserai ko Qattal o Zibbah ker rehai hein. Kya ye Islam hai? aik dooserai ko Kafir kehtai hein. Kya ye Islam hai? Nabi Pak(saw) ka Islam nhi ho sakta. balke molvioon ka gerra howa islam hai!

[AashiqeMustafa1]

Assalam u Alaikum ( may Peace be on you )

Pak Mohammad Mustaf (saw) nai khud Aanai walai ko chaar ( 4 ) daffa "Nabi u Allah" "Nabi u Allah" "Nabi u Allah" aor "Nabi u Allah"

( Allah ka Nabi, Allah ka Nabi, Allah ka Nabi, Allah ka Nabi"

Keh ker fermaya hai tao haam kon hotai hein aanai walai ko Nabi ka Laqqab nah dein.

Jhootai per Allah ki La,anut huwa kerti hai.

Ager ham Jhootai hotai tao Allah ki La,anut sai buch nhi saktai thai.

Akhir Allah hamein kiyoon Nawaz raha hai?

Subhan Allah. !!!!!!!

[sqaish]

They are not muslims untill they believe prophet muhammed SAW is the last prophet, ahmeddiya please listen to me for ur salvation

[amoralis123]

Why do Ahmadi always lie? First mosque was built in 1889 by Dr. Gottlieb Leitner. There are only 2,400 Ahmadi in the whole of UK. They have been declared as non Muslim by the entire Muslim Community irrespective of their sect. Why does Media not confirm FACTS before it announces? Ahmadi are not under threat in the UK nor are they any more under threat in Pakistan than any other community. Media, should verify FACTS before publishing. The Security systems at their worship place is their idea.

[subsrebel]

@amoralis123 And who are a another islamist pig get the hell out of our country you reatrted clown. We respect ahmadiyya but we will not tolerat intolerant clowns liek you.

[amoralis123]

@subsrebel I neither hate nor love Ahmadiyya or any other group. I am not even a believer let alone a Muslim. Your hatred of Muslims is your prerogative as long as you keep it to yourself. By your vocabulary you appear to be not very well informed, a six packer, living on Dole? I am attacking the Media not Ahmadiyya. May be it is over your head? May be you shall comprehend when you are not in an inebriated state? Try to understand comment before commenting. You will appear more intelligent.

[artistdigital]

None can attack them, but they aren't Muslims, and there places of worship aren't called Mosques. Furthermore, it isn't a sect, at all. Its an entirely different thing!

[dhakagod]

I am in complete oppositions to Ahmediyya , BUT this does not justify any voilence against them. As a muslim, i can not expect to be so hateful and still be loved by Allah. If Ahmediyya people are wrong, my job is to deliver the message in the best possible way to them and pray to Allah so that he may guide them. Not attack them like this, this is forbidden in Islam.

[MRSQA2011]

Ahmadiyya Muslim Community is the only Islamic organization to believe that the long-awaited Messiah has come in the person of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad(as) (1835-1908) of Qadian. Ahmad(as) claimed to be the metaphorical second coming of Jesus(as) of Nazareth and the divine guide, whose advent was foretold by the Prophet of Islam, Muhammad(sa). Ahmadiyya Muslim Community believes that God sent Ahmad(as), like Jesus(as), to end religious wars

[code925301]

I am Muslim and i don't like Ahmadies but i don't heat them. when i say i don't like them it mean i don't like their point of views not as a person.

All humans have rights to worship in their own way .

[IslamWillDominate1]

Inshallah the deviant ahmadis will be killed for taking that dog mirza ghulam ahmad as the last prophet of Islam

[35kingali]

@IslamWillDominate1 teri bahan ke phudi maorn din main kes nay kaha hai kay mirza sab last prophit hi kuti maan kay kutay pilay paahlay un kay point of view sony dalay

[123456789168100]

AHMADIYYAT ZINDABAD

[DreamDropDistance2]

@123456789168100 Yes, go on!>>:D

[123456789168100]

@DreamDropDistance2

yes we can do it

[DreamDropDistance2]

@123456789168100 Interessant!!!!!!:D

[123456789168100]

@DreamDropDistance2

sehr intressant......:)

[shahidrizi]

Love for all Hatred for None

Ahmadiyyat Zindabad

[afmnasiruddin01]

Islam is a peaceful religion. mta.tv is preaching islam.

[afmnasiruddin01]

Islam is a peaceful religion.

[DANNYBFD1]

These ppl are not muslim boycott their shops and businesess

[Zara2010100]

The Ahmadi Muslims are facing the same kind of negation all prophets had faced. That in itself is a sign of their truthfulness.

[asim7183]

Shame on the nabuwat academy.

[chief22222]

To the reporter babes ur red dress is nice and so is ur legging just spread ur legs and u r a 10.

[AFGMUJAHID08]

Muhammad is not the father of any male among you, but he is the messenger of God and the seal of the prophets; and God is aware of all things (33:40).

[lookingfortruth100]

Surely Islam means peace, it preaches tolerance and social harmony. So why all this hatred for one sect? As an onlooker, I would regard the preachers of hatred as non Muslims and the Ahmadiyya Muslim Association to be the true Muslims.

[IslamMerda]

@lookingfortruth100

Well if you ignore the recommendation to hit your wife, if you ignore the incitement not to become friends with christians and jews, if you ignore the fact that woman in islam is considered on the same level as dogs, if you ignore the request to try to kill the unbelievers, if you ignore the request to kill your kids if they abandon islam, if you ignore that apostates must be killed, then you are right that islam is peace, but you are also an ignorant asshole!

[SonnyA89]

@lookingfortruth100 Your words brought tears to my eyes, if only my misguided Muslim brothers were as liberal minded as you. May peace be upon you. :)

Ahmadiyyat Zindabad, Humanity Zindabad!

[xplosivelilly]

@lookingfortruth100 i think you should do a little bit more research on this 'sect' and see how they really are. Mos Muslims don't even know what Ahmaddiya is, and those who do, most just think of it as a cult and cudn't care less. However, i do encourage you 'the onlooker' to look into how 'peaceful' this sect really is and their very cultish ways. You would be shocked.

[amoralis123]

@lookingfortruth100 Yes, I would thought so too. As a non partisan, I am puzzled about Ahmadiyya. Their propaganda is stronger than of Muslims'. Most Muslim don't even know their existence. I suppose there has to be something that does not meet the eye. I have been trying to find with no success. Perhaps, an Ahmadi might enlighten. Good luck to them.

[DiscoverALLAH7777777]

@lookingfortruth100 Sorry but we reject Ahmadiyah for being a sect that was created a hundered years ago by the enemies of Islam.Did it not divide the Muslims of India up????? Preventing a Jihad to take place against the British ocuupation of India. Plus Mirza Ghalum Ahamd didn't know much about his British friends who caused the Victrorian Holacause of India!!!!! Islam means Peac eand will prevail when the true Mahdi and Jesus arrive bringing peace and justice on the earth themselves!

[sheikh03]

@DiscoverALLAH7777777 I say you take a 2nd look at the speech/message given by Muhammad Ali Jinnah about not allowing Islam to take control of Pakistan. He wanted it to be a nation with freedom of religion and no Shariah law. Therefore your argument is in vein at this point because it cannot apply at all. You have to read the text further and then communicate your ideas. Scholars and PHD's around the world denounce your statement and yet you are still saying this. Enlighten yourself my friend.

[sheikh03]

@DiscoverALLAH7777777 You should also read Mirza Ghulam Ahmad's works. A true muslim is he who can recognize the truth and false by having been presented every kind. If you dont want to read his literature, you are technically not fulfilling your job as a Muslim which is to test your knowledge and faith at every extremity. It is your job to go out and read, test your faith in Allah. Why not just read his literature and see if you can find anything? Make sense? Start at alislam.org.

[gonikhan1]

@sheikh03 cause its pointless brother. the prophet muhammad sulallahu alaihi wasullum told us there is gona be 30 liars before the final hour. and he sulallahu alaihi wasullum also said he is the last prophet and there is not gona be any more after him. so this guy mirza ghulam ahmed seems like a scam 2 me. and 2 claim 2 be imaam mahdi is just made me realise he is fake. if you dont believe me go and check out the stories regarding imaam mahdi.

[gonikhan1]

also i heard mirza ghulam ahmed claimed he's isa aslaihis salaam. to me thats a bit confusing cause how does one man become 2?

[sheikh03]

@gonikhan1 Youve got to understand his claim properly my friend. It seems to me that you have not read much about him. He did not claim to physically be Jesus, he said that just as Jesus was the messiah for the Jewish religion, he too was a Messiah. Comparisons with spirituality, knowledge and purpose were made. He was the only Muslim to say that he was Jesus metaphorically and not physically. While every other religious theory uses a physical person. You are right he cud not have been 2.

[sheikh03]

@gonikhan1 Why then do all Muslim scholars argue that there will be a second coming physically? Who do all muslim scholars argue that the Prophet SAW physically went to heaven? Who do all Muslim scholars argue that Jesus rose to the sky without a plane? Dont all those claims go against science? You use logic to argue against Mirza, yet every fundamental muslim theory before Mirza was illogical. They dont incorporate science, he has incorporated science. That is his claim. Metaphors are needed.

[sheikh03]

@sheikh03 That is why I kindly asked you to read his books and understand what he means because everyone else doesnt read what he said and persecutes his people. They hate him because they dont read his literature. The end result is negative and revolves around ignorance. If you study him properly, you will understand why science is needed.

[gonikhan1]

@sheikh03 science is not needed when you have allah

[sheikh03]

@gonikhan1 God would not create this world if he could interfere with everything he made and give random people upper hands.

[sheikh03]

@gonikhan1 To cap off your argument, if you believe that God will not allow science to interfere with religion. Go out and tell every single Muslim, Jew, Christian to stop being doctors, scientists - in any field, engineers. Because you believe god created these things in vein.

[gonikhan1]

@sheikh03 mate i didnt say anything about science. but 2 say miracles didnt happen because there is no scientific proof would be wrong. allah works in ways that the mind cant imagine, no offence but mirza ghulam ahmed sounds like an imposter to me.

[gonikhan1]

@sheikh03 no muslim scholars dont argue about isa alaihis salam going to heaven. with allah you dont need logic, if he wants something 2 happen it will happen. so we believe he went heaven and he will return ( not with a plane, but with allahs grace )

[sheikh03]

@gonikhan1 God did all of those things because there was no way he was going to break his rules. He was going to allow LOGIC to make its way. Moses crossed the sea because of the force of the moons gravity causing the altitude of the sea's water to decrease. SCIENCE HAS PROVEN THAT. God allowed Moses to cross, using logic and allowing human being to interpret that.

[gonikhan1]

@sheikh03 so if science couldnt prove a miracle that allah sent 2 this world, you would claim its false?

[sheikh03]

@gonikhan1 Do you realize that all of the miracles Allah has brought forth to this world have been proven by science? If historically interpreted correctly, if understood using historical and empirical evidence and UNDERSTANDING scripture PROPERLY - they have been proven. In fact half of the miracles which you speak of were not even miracles and were merely metaphors signalling a COMPARISON of events that were to unfold in the future.

[sheikh03]

@gonikhan1 To begin, I would like to say that you are the first person who approached this subject as a non-ahmadi with respect and formal language. I adore that, however, I would like to mention to you that the prophet (PBUH) made several distinctions between a law bearing and non-law bearing prophet. Likewise, history has proven to us that this phenomena has occurred, therefore right off the bat. Without even incorporating Mirza Ghulam Ahmad's evidences, there is right out proof of his truth.

[gonikhan1]

@sheikh03 when did this phenomena occur?

[sheikh03]

@gonikhan1 @gonikhan1 Science is a system that human beings are beginning to use in order to prove religion. Science is being used as a MODERN day tool for EMPIRICIAL evidence. Of course prayer and god's ears play no part in our existence, he gave us a commandment and we have to follow it. NO WHERE does god say science is not to be used. The outlines he has given us are the limits of his use in this world. No one else can interfere with what he has laid out. HE DID NOT take away science.

[gonikhan1]

what are you on about. use science if you want 2, but dnt say the miracles that allah sent 2 this world are false because you cant prove it with science.

[sheikh03]

@gonikhan1 Just as you have approached this subject with kindness, I too did not understand his claim before I read his literature. After having read his literature, the purity, love of the Prophet SAW and his kinship with the people of Islam was unparalleled. His knowledge and wisdom is unparalleled. It's mind boggling to me that people could not accept him after having read atleast 1 whole book about either his revelations or his writings and interpretations of Quranic text.

[sheikh03]

@gonikhan1 He has incorporated science, has given Islam a reason to incorporate it's claim of having applied to every society. He gives Islam sociological truth, psychological truth and allows the mind to develop far more rationality concerning Islam than it could ever occur. I like to say regularly, forget the mystical importance for a second and understand the logical point of view for a bit.

[sheikh03]

@gonikhan1 He interpreted the Prophet SAW's encounters with angels as metaphors, his rising to heaven as a metaphor. He provided scientific background, archaelogical background of the Prophet SAW's truth. He gave the religion of Islam logic, he provided Islam with a purpose in an industrial society. People do not incorporate that into their train of thought. I too study Islam in depth and there is no doubt in my mind that all of his claims have come with a purpose and vision for Islam.

[gonikhan1]

@sheikh03 are you trying to say b4 mirza ghulam ahmed there was no purpose 4 islam? islam is here to change the world not the other way round.

[sheikh03]

@gonikhan1 I am trying to say to you that Islam was clearly heading into the wrong direction before Mirza Ghulam ahmad and approxiametely 800 years after the prophet Muhammad SAW. Islam was clearly not Islam and one evidence of that is the division of Islam into 72 different sects. There is no arguing against that fact. Islam was totally falling apart - it's interpretation was spread into 72 different sects. No one religion/ideology/organization gets divided unless there is a disagreement.

[gonikhan1]

@sheikh03 then mirza ghulam ahmed came along and made another sect, no offence but i wont count ur sect as muslim because of the teachings of the prophet muhammad sullahu alaihi wasalum. and by the way theres 73 sects in islam. in in the hadiths

[sheikh03]

@gonikhan1 That is not part of my argument. My argument was not stating that there were that many sects and therefore Islam was wrong. My claim was that before him there was PROOF that Islam was divided and that a reformer was needed for the aid of Islam.

[sheikh03]

@gonikhan1 Thirdly, he technically did not create a sect. Logically speaking, to differentiate from the interpretation of a belief and CHANGING (the other 72 sects have done) a belief are 2 different things. He essentially told people that society is changing and that peace is needed instead of force and violence in the world. SIMPLE. If you read his books you will understand what he says. Please, I advise you to read his literature, then you may say as you like.

[gonikhan1]

@sheikh03 i rather stay away from lies and corruption thank you very munch

[unseenocean]

@lookingfortruth100 thats because you are disbeliever yourself & ur view on this issue is worthless. Islam does not mean peace Islam means submission to the beliefs &laws of God, not to your own desires, ignorant opinions & fabrications. God is as He is, not as you want him to be & his religion revealed to mankind is as it is, regardless of whether you like it or not. Ahmadi (Qadiani) are kuffar but so are many other sects in the Muslim world. Most Muslims became kafir today

[gonikhan1]

@lookingfortruth100

islam is really deep, and to understand it you realy need 2 look into urself. to explain 2 an outsider in simple form is these so called muslims the ahmadiyyas lie about islam and the prophets. they say muhammad sulallahu alaihi wasullum wasnt the last prophet, when he clearly told us he was. and they make false claims about isa ibn maryum alaihis salaam (jesus).