Then after they killed Tillman they had the BALLS to tell the american people he died for freedom! What an outrage, their family is still in court and that happened in 2004. Americans will never wake up I fear until the nukes come. People don't understand that if they vote Obama or anyone else besides Paul in we WILL GO INTO IRAN. Done deal. China and Russia have said no more, if we evade Iran WW3 will begin. That will be the beginning of the end for the United States Empire.
Paul is the only one intelligent enough to realize abortion, gay marriage, drug use etc is ludacris! Save your opinions for sunday morning gossip! They are all civil rights, people can do as they wish. If they want to abort, marry the same sex, or use drugs it is UP TO THEM. NOT THE GOVERNMENT. Paul then tries to go to actual legit topics about what he needs to do as president. This country is just so flip flopped and brained washed its exhausting to fight it. Paul is a saint.
Wow this is a horrible way to look at the situation. What people aren't greedy?! Seriously?! People with respect and honor, a common knowledge that you don't thrive off others, the earth is rich and we have plenty for all. This is scary that so many people think this is so far fetched, same people who never believe in world peace. You are the reasons why evil is winning today.
@GwillaWilla I see it too. I feel that communism and libertarianism would only work in some fantasy made-up world where everyone loved each other and no one was greedy. TBH I used to follow Ron Paul almost religiously but then I realized that his goals were nothing more than pie-in-the-sky dreams.
@DatJohnWayne Yeah let's all give up and blow up the world. Everyone getting along? PFFT! please.. we are humans, we are born to hate right? Dog eat dog world.. always going to be on the down side.. let's remain the true terrorists of the world. Bombing innocent villages in the middle of the night as children sleep, pretending we are fighting for freedom, pretend we are for "good". America pushes everyone else down to remain on top.
@macryan19 I don't quite understand what you were trying to say. I said that the idea of libertarianism wouldn't work because there are bad people out there or at least misguided people. I was in your position once; I also felt Ron Paul was the answer. He wants to disband the EPA because he feels corporations will watch over their own actions. C'mon dude, I know you don't think a company cares about how much they destroy in the name of profit. I still agree with Paul on military reduction though
@DatJohnWayne How isn't Ron Paul the answer? He is the exact answer for our equation. There is so much fucked up with the states there is no where to begin or end, but please tell me one thing Ron Paul isn't right about. Auditing the fed, ending the fake wars, bringing back civil rights, stop foreign aid also known as bonuses for other dictators, the list goes on. To answer your question, of course not. Paul wants to get rid of every secret society, EPA, FBI, CIA, they are all fraud.
@macryan19 another example (don't know where you are religiously so this may or may not offend you) In a Ron Paul presidency, a state isn't bound by national standards on education. A state could ban evolution, BBT, and probably astronomy; imagine a state (my guess would be Kansas and Kentucky) where all children were taught was the Bible. We would be the laughing stock of the 1st world countries and would be no better than Turkey or Iran.
@DatJohnWayne A national standard for education is brain washing. Narrowing of the mind. Only letting them know one side of the story. Education is another dept completely fucked up because of mass control.No complete state would only teach religion that's ridiculous. If certain schools only taught the bible all sane people will get their children the hell out. The US is already a laughing stock for our education scores which you must be unaware about, this country is half retarded.
@macryan19 I don't think Ron Paul is a bad person, but I think there are bad people out there. I totally get it if you don't agree ; just stand back for s second and look at the world's problems. Did you do it? Good. Now do you think the world's problems can be solved by letting everything run its course, like in Syria right now? About 7,500 people have been killed because no action has been taken. What about their right to freedom and life?
@DatJohnWayne Never said there are no bad people? Our country is ran by psychos, you know how many are around the world? Do you know the truth about Syria?! That's a pro-US dictator running that country, the CIA armed those terrorists to shell the city. The financial elite are controlling the wars in the middle east. Ron Paul will stop the fake wars, there are no real terrorists, they are wars for power, money and resources nothing else.
@DatJohnWayne Have you talked to any vets? Do you know the Pat Tillman story? Tillman just like other brain washed Americans actually believe there were terrorists and he wanted to end his NFL career to be a hero and go fight them. Well guess what? He finds out the entire war is a scam, and we were in afghanistan for the opium, marijuana, and other resources. He planned to come back and tell everyone. Senate found out and said no way, so they put 3 bullets in his head.
So this Cenk character is somehow under the impression that allowing donations is the problem here. If you don't allow donations, they'll do it in secret. If you don't allow donations, the rich guys win every time. The issues are corruption and incentive. If politicians followed the constitution, and had no control over the money, the corporate money wouldn't be offered. This "more laws" business needs to die; we have enough laws, and all we need is for people to follow them.
Sooooooo.... what exactly is placed in jeopardy by going with Paul's ideals? On the one hand you say they're noble and righteous, and on the other you say they're no good because they're not practical? And the other corrupt politicians are? I don't follow your talk. Oh wait! Yes I do. You're just part of the political hate machine.
Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy.
But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you -- Jesus Christ
Crazy talk?
Maybe you should keep in mind that Ron Paul is actually a true evangelical Christian, before making that kind of comments!
How about a Mind Your Own Business Tax. 1. You can contribute all you want to campaigns that concern elections that you are eligible to vote in. 2. You will pay a progressive tax on the total amount of contributions. 3. Total contributions=T in dollars. Denominator=D. The tax amount =T^2/D
If D=10000 and T=$100 then T^2/D=100*100/10000=$1 and T=$1000 =$100 You refers to individuals only. Corporations and Unions forbidden to contribute.
Why is it such a bad idea to promote morality and good? You can argue that it's not human nature to act this way, but isn't the essence of human nature our ability to evolve and adapt ideas? Perhaps it's time we evolve our political ideas and hold politicians accountable to morality and actions based upon beliefs and not money. I typically enjoy the young turks, but in my opinion, holding these types of views will do nothing to help progress our species.
If you believe in evolution, we would be considered as animals. Animals rely on survival. And sometimes this survival can involve people doing greedy things. It's already in the genetic makeup. Rather than force people to change, we have regulations in place
Actually... no Cenk! He was saying that if the federal govt. didn't have control over all of the aspects of your life, they wouldn't have the ability to sell out because they wouldn't have anything to offer.
Who would lobby the federal govt. if the govt. didn't run the economy???? This has nothing to do with police, or the military, etc...
We would still have issues but on a state level. It's easier for ME to march on Atlanta for change than to rally the whole U.S. & march on D.C.
It's not a 'Paulbot' reaction to say that Cenk misquoted him. Whether it was on purpose or not(I don't think it was, TYT is just very impulsive, not spending to much time on their exposition and background research for any subject), is not the problem. It's that he misquoted him and got a completely different message. Ron Paul OF ALL PEOPLE is not naive enough to think that politicians will stop taking the money, he wants to rid them of the reason to have money given to them by corporations.
Wow, Cenk didn't even read the article completely. He wants to remove the power of politicians so that there is no problem in corporations supporting politicians with money, because it'll be a 'wasted effort' for the corporations. And as we all know, Campaign Finance Reform doesn't do jack shit against the 'greedy' politicians who use loopholes all the time, all it does is stop honest people from supporting politicians, that's what Paul was getting at.
I HAVE BEEN STUDYING AND SERIOUSLY LOOKING INTO THE ISSUES FOR OVER A DECADE NOW AND I CAN HONESTLY SAY THAT I AGREE WITH DR. RON PAUL 100% ON EVERY ISSUE, THERE IS NOT ONE THING I DISAGREE WITH HIM ON.
@Saebeck32 Then you need to meet more people,.. I don't have to check myself at all, I've deeply studied the Issues, their relation to the US Constitution and the present state of our Economy as well as our Civil/Economic Liberties and Dr. Paul is 100% correct on all the issues, I've felt this way for years now.
@D10SdelFutbol I'm the one being condescending? You're the one saying Ron Paul can do no wrong, while disrespecting the people who endured beatings at sit-ins in the 1960's to desegregate lunch counters!!
@Saebeck32 How is agreeing with Dr. Paul condescending?.... I don't get it.
And.. I'm a minority here in the US who has experienced real racism in school and in the work place,... but I STILL UNDERSTAND LIBERTY..... The one principle that made America the Greatest Nation in the History of the World.
Under the principle of Liberty you have the right to be whatever you want to be, even a racist and property rights are protected even if open to the public.
@jjcale1111 "The founders of the USA were the very practical people.. they saw war, hyperinflation and tyranny and they set up a system of govt to prevent these things..."
Which then led to a civil war over the idea of "state's rights," used to justify inhuman slavery. The government has changed, and some of us have learned the real lessons of history instead of choosing to live in a dreamworld where the founding fathers were prophets bringing gov't from God to the people.
I agree that some of RPs ideas are a bit out there but you should also consider how he want to rule, he wants the country to be taken back to its roots, the constitution. He wont do as Obama did create a ton of new legislation. What he would do is mostly repeal and vito most bills that are unconstitutional. If congress doesn't agree with him on his weak points you will have nothing to worry about if he gets president, make sure you tell your congress person about your opinion.
You mean the homophobic millionaire, conservative, Dr "let em die" is against campaign finance reform? Don't tell that to his apostles who are busy lying to, I mean convincing, progressives that Dr. "let em die" isn't part of the same wealthy elite controlling this country. LOL
@BalazarsBrain ever think that the reason these banks made these "Really risky bets" was because they knew they had a government they could bitch into giving them money? MY god you are stupid...if we had even more regulation on the business world there would be an even greater amount of lobbyists.
pff i used to have respect for TYT but this is just soooo bluntly biased.
basically what Ron Paul says is: seperate corporations from politics. I personally think that's a pretty damn good idea. I'm almost 100% sure that if a democrat would propose that Cenk would be riding his dick calling it a sign of ideals and morals. but nooooo now that a republican says it suddenly it's not idealistic but childish and unrealistic?? biased bullshit.
@inademv@inademv actually they made a video specifically to rant about how honest and balanced their news coverage is supposed to be see here: /watch?v=dnabtmkT0o0
Also: herp derp he doesn't care about me so I don't care deeerp
grow up.
Also you can't deny that if a democrat or whoever it is that TYT agree with would say such a thing that Ron Paul said they'd praise that person for standing up for their ideals. And I'm not even a paultard would NEVER vote for the guy.
@Neworder748 I guess you don't know that coverage can be honest and still biased. Half the show is opinion and analysis. I reiterate, shut the hell up. Forever.
(0:15,0:30)+(0:36,0:45) = 24 seconds of (somewhat) substantial discussion.
(0:46,3:15) = 2 minutes and 29 seconds of horrible analogies and bad attempts to discredit free-market politics (which I believe he doesn't understand).
This man obviously doesn't understand free-market economics, and since my comment length is limited, here is a book I would recommend: "Economics in One Lesson: The Shortest & Surest Way to Understand BASIC ECONOMICS"
To All those libs thinking that Ron Paul is racists, check this out. A REAL journalist getting to the bottom of things with the newsletters, unlike Cenk.
Type youtube(dot)com in front of both links:
/watch?v=95CagSkXZYc&
And they Actually found out who wrote the newsletters:
I am not supporter. but I go with the fact that he has help people directly than no other politician have done.....whatever you say!! RON PAUL 2012!!! you will see young Turkish people.
Cenk doesn't get it. Ron Paul is talking about taking the INCENTIVE to buy the congressmen in Washington away by making the STATES the regulators.
THUS, there would be no purpose in buying the Congressmen. The people of the STATES will have to make sure that they have proper STATE regulations in place over their elections or their STATE reps will be bought and sold.
That is what Ron Paul ment by his statements. Again Cenk just doesn't get it.
@xsithos What ever you believe or what I believe thats what America is all about. I say abolish the inside interests of the politicians the "lobbiest".
@xsithos No, you dont get it, state politicians are often already bought and that wont happen less just because it cant happen at the federal level. Its just as easy, if not easier to buy state regulators and the people still cant compete with the money thrown at state people, or future state "regulators".
RP has too much faith in his false beliefs and is refusal to look at empirical evidence.
@waltermh111 You dishonor the sacrifice of people that endured beatings at sit-ins in the 1960's. The law says: if you're open to the public, that means everybody. "Whites only" was a stain on our society and liberals did the right thing outlawing the practice. You Fox News Tea Party nuts stand NO chance in changing the law that has stood for 47 years. I hope one day you'll wise up. Ya ever wonder why there aren't any black folks that share your views?
@Saebeck32 I'm a minority and i disagree with you, I have felt pure racism here in America but still.... LIBERTY IS FOR ALL AND EVERYONE HAS THE RIGHT TO BE WHAT THEY WANT TO BE, EVEN A RACIST.... SO IF THEY DON'T WANT TO SERVE ME IN THEIR PUBLIC ESTABLISHMENT I WILL GO SOMEWHERE ELSE BUT NO ONE HAS ANY RIGHTS OVER PRIVATE PROPERTY.. EVEN IF IT'S OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.
Look, accountability increases the more local the government.
As an example, imagine if the banker bailouts happened, but the regulations on the banks were set by the states. Even states that wanted to do a tarp fund COULDN'T because other states who kept the proper regulations wouldn't agree to it. Not only that, because the printing of money is done at the federal level separating the regulations at the state level PREVENTS IT ENTIRELY. Unless the state wants bankruptcy.
What Ron Paul has to say is exactly what Chenk is saying. What he proposes sounds so good but in reality? So if he was voted President how long would it take his ideals to come? Repubs don't like him and Dems don't like him. Think about it is all I say. And he wants to do away with social security, police, fire dept and welfare etc. believing if NO taxes people will have more money and can rely on friends and family. Really??
@patsy352 Really. I'll give you a small example. How many times have police come and filled up your tank when you ran out of gas on the road? Now how many times have your friends done that for you?
@sgisi414 That is a good point, I see the states roadside assistance helping people quite often. Never had to use it luckily, instead once I did wait over half hour and paid a roommates for a gas can to fuel me up :/
At least I wasnt too far from home at that time.
Would have wanted the assistance if I was outside the city or further from home which I often was.
@MrStatu101 And when will that ever be enforced? Name me the bankers who were prosecuted over the recent economic crisis they caused? Despite much of what they did being grossly illegal and consequently damaging to the world economy, the law doesn't apply. So tell me when it would with politicians.
As Marx said, the greed and incompetence of the top strata of society will inevitably create the conditions whereby they are hanged from the gallows and an overthrow of the current system is made possible
It was on the verge of happening in the 30's, but sane and intelligent people managed to stop it through replacing laissez faire-capitalism with a social democratic, mixed economy
It appears that the rich once again have shot themselves in the foot and are leading us into another Depression
@atosafi1 You don't seem to understand history. All the "mixed economy" created was a bubble, which would burst a while later due to deficit spending ("thin-air money"). The same thing is happening today; a bigger government is spending money we don't have in order to make it to the next election so they don't look bad. We're definitely going to hit a depression, but remember: We have a mixed economy, not capitalism. What will you blame this time?
Actually, what Marx predicted has come to fruition
As Lenin said "The capitalists will sell us the rope by which we will hang them". In other words, the greed and short-sightedness of the top strata of society will create the conditions whereby an overthrow of the current system will be made possible
We stopped it from happening during the 30's as FDR, Keynes and other Social Democrats ditched laissez-faire in favour of social democracy, the market fundamentalists appear not to have read history
@atosafi1 You know, my favorite Star Trek series is DS9, and after watching the Ferengis for a while, I think the money-driven aliens would've actually been disgusted with these modern Wall Street capitalists. Because the Ferengi would see them as destructively short-sighted, not seeing the long-term profits from controlling one's greedy impulses & smashing so much other profit-potential areas (like the environment & education) in their short-sightedness.
@BalazarsBrain excessive corporatism is a result of excessive governmental power. If the government had not bailed out wallstreet most corporations would not be doing so well (to say the least). Once again you prove the effectiveness of providing misinformation to the severely uneducated public.
@wetwillyoffilly Exactly, The government wouldn't have so much money to 'return on investment' with stimulus and bailouts without the FED and IRS(specifically being really high for the IRS, with FED it's on principle) . Corparayions will actually have to STOP making stupid decisions, like pollution or badloaning, if they wanted to stay in business, rather than doing it anyways then asking for a bailout...
"Corparayions will actually have to STOP making stupid decisions, like pollution or badloaning, if they wanted to stay in business, rather than doing it anyways then asking for a bailout..."
What's stopping a Chinese Manufacturing Plant in Beijing from turning their air quality into a toxic mix of crap thicker than soup?...no wonder everyone wears masks there!
I don't see many boycotts of goods we buy from China based on Pollution concerns.
@BalazarsBrain Hmm, guess there must not be a lot of people who stand up and think that they can stand against corporations if in California there was a massive showing for a vote on a constitutional amendment against corporations being treated as individuals... It's not as 'rare' as you think...
"excessive corporatism is a result of excessive governmental power”
How about excessive governmental crony capitalism is a direct result of excessive Corporate lobbying…which I blame on Ron Paul, and others who don’t support an overhaul of campaign finance legislation.
Furthermore, If you think formal government is the only way a Corporation can lord over citizens, I'm afraid you're the one whose misinformed...look up OPEC, or any other Oligopoly/Monopoly.
Bailout was the only choice due to LACK of regulation...thanks to the repeal of the Glass Steagall act, banks can make extremely risky bets directly putting our bank deposits at risk. You think the citizens would stand for anything less than a bailout when their bank deposits begin to disappear?
libertarianism is riddled with faith in humanity... thinking humans and business can self regulate.
the corruption of politicians is proof enough 90% of people will lie cheat and steal if not heavily regulated. I wish i had the faith in humanity that libertarians do... but im pretty positive, they are wrong.
Left to their own devices, corporations and people will devour one another, not help each other. History has shown this.
@BottleConcreteBlond If this was any other candidate then yes, the majority of the people would attack him personally. But since they're "Ron Paul Zombies" they'll probably just stick to attacking his point and what he's saying if they disagree with it to begin with. Those paultarded paulbot sheeple, amirite? What do you expect from those blind, mindless, 9/11 truther conspiracy theorists? They're crazy!
@BottleConcreteBlond I've never "attacked" anyone. I'm not a fan of confrontation. I think Ron Pauls message and the libertarian argument speaks for itself, especially in the times were living in.
@EBurwell What about Ayn Rand inspiring her friend Alan Greenspan to build the free market system that crashed the world economy? And yes, Alan is that old and he admitted this and promptly retired.
@walkertongdee Greenspan retired in 2006 and he practised Randian Economics, but Bernanke sat on his lap and continued his policies. No wonder the economy collasped.
Ayn Rand's fictions are enjoyable but applying them to reality sucks. The philosophy of "Atlas Shrugged" was to let those that have it keep it and screw everyone else.
Once again, Reality don't work that way, and it never will, and it NEVER should.
Sounds like an anarchist to me. Well, if he wins, we'll see just how much anarchism will fuck you Americans in the ass.
Anarchists are such dreamers. Sure, we all want to live together in harmony. Who doesnt. But that's not the way the rest of the world wants. You and I, we want to live in peace and get along joyously. But the others want segregation, murder, rape, greed, and destruction of all humanity. That's why we need laws. To keep the 90% of psychos in check.
Picking and choosing elements of Libertarianism doesn't work. You take the power away from the government so you take the money out of it. Campaign finance would not need reform if If you restrict the government to only the enumerated powers - politicians wouldn't have anything to sell.
What does the Federal Government have that is worth buying?
The ability to control people's lives.
Why don't people like our campaign system?
Because of how it affects our lives.
So what if we remove the Federal Government's ability to control all of our lives, and leave it to the more manageable State politicians whom we can more easily impeach if we don't like their policies?
Okay at this point ron paul could mandate that all puppies and kittens should be euthanized and declare war on happiness and his supporters would just claim that we were not looking at it from a "certain point of view" i say remove the cap on campaign finance but after every million per person it should be taxed heavily!
This isn't just Ron Paul's view on campaign finance reform. Obama, the Republicans and every politician agree with him. What's important is Ron Paul's views don't change based on where his campaign financing comes from.
Unfortunately I think Ron Paul is correct in his analyses that bills to reform campaign donations really is largely posturing.
Say, if these politicians weren't so easy to bribe would the lobbyists come knocking?
Personally I think it's a character/moral issue. Whether you legislate to make campaign funds purely from taxes, that still won't go as far as to prevent favors politicians receive after they leave office (employed as advisers/consultants by companies they helped).
Ron Paul wrote that article in 2002. Considering how much rampant lobbying has gone on since that time, especially being in politics he should know, whether he has changed his stance on campaign finance reform. Unlikely though.
The only reason large corporations want to buy the federal government at all is because of the controlling power it has. If you decrease the government's power to control people's lives, you take away corporate incentive to buy the politicians.
A lot of Paul supporters don't realize that Excessive government power is ONLY ONE SIDE of the coin...Excessive Corporate Power is the other side of it.
Free market sounds all great and dandy, but if you trust Wallstreet to magically regulate itself, you're crazy! If you trust manufacturing plants to magically regulate how much pollution they spew out, you're crazy!
@BalazarsBrain You're right, The 'power' is two way, not just "corporates took over politicians", but that Politicians let them. Paul proposes giving government so little power to bend the economy that companies would be better off spending their money actually doing work....
Also on the second part, instead of having to go to government to ask the to stop polluting(which most don't get regulated), the people as a whole could take it directly to a company.You could smear a company and boycott.
"the people as a whole could take it directly to a company"
I'm sorry but that sounds extremely idealistic. How many people do you know who stop and think for even a split second where or how their cheap, Chinese appliance was made as they're walking down the isle in Walmart?
You have to take Ron Paul in total. If his view on small federal government were accepted, then there would not be any corporate money buying candidates. Having a socialist government (like you want) AND Ron Paul's non-campaign finance reform would be disastrous (as you say). Paul presents a total system change.
Ron Paul is the best option from a non-American point of view. He would stop all of America's wars. Also, he would allow corporations to do what they want. So there would be more outsourcing and offshoring.It would be a sad day for American people though, but outsiders will barely be affected.
humanity as a whole needs to grow up and take responsibility alot of folk are still in their puberty when it comes to issue's in their personal and bussiness lives. however giving freedom that ron paul is talking about can do either two things. it can either bring people together and allow a greater understanding of one another. or it can do the exact opposite due to people being people and wanting everything for themselfs.
humanity as as hole needs to grow up and take responsibility alot of folk are still in their puberty when it comes to issue's in their personal and bussiness lives. however giving freedom that ron paul is talking about can do either two things. it can either bring people together and allow a greater understanding of one another. or it can do the exact opposite due to people being people and wanting everything for themselfs.
humanity as as hole needs to grow up and take responsibility alot of folk are still in their puberty when it comes to issue's in their personal and bussiness lives. however giving freedom that ron paul is talking about can do either two things. it can either bring people together and allow a greater understanding of one another. or it can do the exact opposite due to people being people and wanting everything for themselfs.
humanity as as hole needs to grow up and take responsibility alot of folk are still in their puberty when it comes to issue's in their personal and bussiness lives. however giving freedom that ron paul is talking about can do either two things. it can either bring people together and allow a greater understanding of one another. or it can do the exact opposite due to people being people and wanting everything for themselfs.
Being British, I would like Ron Paul to become president. Yes, his domestic policies are disastrous and dangerous, but they don't affect me so I couldn't give a crap. His foreign policy however, is absolutely correct and it does affect me so I'd love it if he became president, even if its only for one term so he can stop the senseless wars.
BTW, Pail supporters need to get a grip. Cenk has praised him on many occasions so stop your whining.
This is the one thing I agree with Cenk on against Paul's views. The system wouldn't be corrupt right now if special interests weren't dumping in money to buy politicians off. While Paul's ideals are with merit, they aren't realistic considering the mess we live in now. I think we should have rules that the rich can only donate a small amount and businesses can't donate at all.
@shadowedge69 Yeah I agree.....the stupid smear of supposed racist comments was one thing....but this is definitely the root of the problems of Washington and if anyone realized that I would have hoped Ron Paul did. Fuck I guess I'm voting for Buddy Roehmer now because Obama will never get my vote again.
@jallison79 It's ironic so many people believe the racist comments by Paul's newsletter considering the lack of evidence and strong counter evidence that disapproves it. Sadly I think most of the radical left and right want to use this to demonize Paul because it's all the dirt they can find. It's stunning how many blacks Paul has touched even during the time of segregation. A doctor who delivered a bi-racial baby in the 60's is the closet thing to a saint we have in politics.
@shadowedge69 Yeah that's why I completely dismissed it and flamed Cenk for reporting that garbage. This however is just one of the crazy sides of this conservative candidate that I was willing to look past because what other options do we actually have? But I don't know now.....our whole system is so fucked I'm about to stop trying and just move off the grid.
@jallison79 I thought about moving off the grid myself until I realized the Amish's days are numbered already. That's if things remain the status quo. I'm more concerned about the future of the country. China is giving us credit for these wars now, but they don't support any actions against Iran. If China calls in our loans, the country will default and we'll probably have to get rid of our rights to join up with Mexico and Canada to form one country. North American union
Cenk does his best again to smear ron paul. if ron would had wanted to to limit the amount spent on campaigns then I guess Cenk would have gone wild about ron flipflopping. If government would be as small as ron paul wants, then it would be a complete waste for them to give politicans any contributions, since they would not have any power to give big businesses bailouts or perks!
@RiktigPolitik the govt just make bribery more efficient.... its going to happen whenever it serves the interest of the "briber" who have the means. i dont think cenk is trying to smear ron paul, he just has a diffent perspective on how to solve problems.
Cenk, you take statements like this and apply it to YOUR ideology instead taking his statement and applying it to HIS ideology.
In a limited government America that doesn't hand out subsidies and regulations that favor big business, there would be little to NO incentive for Corporations to bribe politicians. They would be accountable to the PEOPLE from whom they make their PROFITS from rather than GOVERNMENT gifting them taxpayer money and rigging the system in their favor with regulations.
@painet1776 explain how limited government happens if corps buy our politicans? you are such a clown and in a cult and you are too stupid to realize it.
That's not Marx--I think he believed that there would be some worker's state or something, or at least that workers would seize the state apparatus. It sounds a lot like a brand of anarchism which is abundant in the Pacific Northwest and, based on some of the rhetoric surrounding the General Assemblies, I think at OWS as well (i.e. everything horizontal, no authority at all, etc).
Not all anarchists are this naive, though (e.g. Chomsky).
I think this host does not understand what Ron Paul is saying. Ron Puzo wants to get the power away from the government, EPA, energy department,etc. Thereby not corruptible. Cent wants to give more power to the government to stop the government from being corrupt, who's crazy here?
@mexcar007 You only think of Government, how about corporations ? Will Ron takes the power away from the corperations ? May be you don't understand what Ron's Libertarian mean ?
he wants to get rid of every government department too, just because something is not in the constitution dose not mean it should not be, that's fucking stupid baby talk, like the Dept. of Energy, as if anyone would look to the constitution on how to deal with the aging nuclear weapons stock piles ( just one of the jobs of the dept. of energy ) the constitution also dose not cover environmental pollution but i guess the US should get rid of the EPA and all environmental laws?
@phoboskitty If the majority of the people of the US disagree with the constitution then it should be amended; not walked all over as if it doesn't exist.
Cenk is an idiot. The problem isn't legislation, the problem is the government power. The government's ability to use force to take property and to give income tax credits/subsidies and grants force big businesses to buy politicians. If we didn't have such a powerful government, many of the perceived problems in regards to corrupt politicians would melt away.
Then after they killed Tillman they had the BALLS to tell the american people he died for freedom! What an outrage, their family is still in court and that happened in 2004. Americans will never wake up I fear until the nukes come. People don't understand that if they vote Obama or anyone else besides Paul in we WILL GO INTO IRAN. Done deal. China and Russia have said no more, if we evade Iran WW3 will begin. That will be the beginning of the end for the United States Empire.
macryan19 2 days ago
Paul is the only one intelligent enough to realize abortion, gay marriage, drug use etc is ludacris! Save your opinions for sunday morning gossip! They are all civil rights, people can do as they wish. If they want to abort, marry the same sex, or use drugs it is UP TO THEM. NOT THE GOVERNMENT. Paul then tries to go to actual legit topics about what he needs to do as president. This country is just so flip flopped and brained washed its exhausting to fight it. Paul is a saint.
macryan19 3 days ago
Wow this is a horrible way to look at the situation. What people aren't greedy?! Seriously?! People with respect and honor, a common knowledge that you don't thrive off others, the earth is rich and we have plenty for all. This is scary that so many people think this is so far fetched, same people who never believe in world peace. You are the reasons why evil is winning today.
macryan19 3 days ago
Glad I'm not the only one who sees the comparisons between Communism and Libertarianism in that their both very naive about human nature
GwillaWilla 2 weeks ago
@GwillaWilla no, you are not alone.
MTS0815 1 week ago
@GwillaWilla I see it too. I feel that communism and libertarianism would only work in some fantasy made-up world where everyone loved each other and no one was greedy. TBH I used to follow Ron Paul almost religiously but then I realized that his goals were nothing more than pie-in-the-sky dreams.
DatJohnWayne 1 week ago
@DatJohnWayne Yeah let's all give up and blow up the world. Everyone getting along? PFFT! please.. we are humans, we are born to hate right? Dog eat dog world.. always going to be on the down side.. let's remain the true terrorists of the world. Bombing innocent villages in the middle of the night as children sleep, pretending we are fighting for freedom, pretend we are for "good". America pushes everyone else down to remain on top.
macryan19 3 days ago
@macryan19 I don't quite understand what you were trying to say. I said that the idea of libertarianism wouldn't work because there are bad people out there or at least misguided people. I was in your position once; I also felt Ron Paul was the answer. He wants to disband the EPA because he feels corporations will watch over their own actions. C'mon dude, I know you don't think a company cares about how much they destroy in the name of profit. I still agree with Paul on military reduction though
DatJohnWayne 3 days ago
@DatJohnWayne How isn't Ron Paul the answer? He is the exact answer for our equation. There is so much fucked up with the states there is no where to begin or end, but please tell me one thing Ron Paul isn't right about. Auditing the fed, ending the fake wars, bringing back civil rights, stop foreign aid also known as bonuses for other dictators, the list goes on. To answer your question, of course not. Paul wants to get rid of every secret society, EPA, FBI, CIA, they are all fraud.
macryan19 3 days ago
@macryan19 another example (don't know where you are religiously so this may or may not offend you) In a Ron Paul presidency, a state isn't bound by national standards on education. A state could ban evolution, BBT, and probably astronomy; imagine a state (my guess would be Kansas and Kentucky) where all children were taught was the Bible. We would be the laughing stock of the 1st world countries and would be no better than Turkey or Iran.
DatJohnWayne 2 days ago
@DatJohnWayne A national standard for education is brain washing. Narrowing of the mind. Only letting them know one side of the story. Education is another dept completely fucked up because of mass control.No complete state would only teach religion that's ridiculous. If certain schools only taught the bible all sane people will get their children the hell out. The US is already a laughing stock for our education scores which you must be unaware about, this country is half retarded.
macryan19 2 days ago
@macryan19 I don't think Ron Paul is a bad person, but I think there are bad people out there. I totally get it if you don't agree ; just stand back for s second and look at the world's problems. Did you do it? Good. Now do you think the world's problems can be solved by letting everything run its course, like in Syria right now? About 7,500 people have been killed because no action has been taken. What about their right to freedom and life?
DatJohnWayne 2 days ago
@DatJohnWayne Never said there are no bad people? Our country is ran by psychos, you know how many are around the world? Do you know the truth about Syria?! That's a pro-US dictator running that country, the CIA armed those terrorists to shell the city. The financial elite are controlling the wars in the middle east. Ron Paul will stop the fake wars, there are no real terrorists, they are wars for power, money and resources nothing else.
macryan19 2 days ago
@DatJohnWayne Have you talked to any vets? Do you know the Pat Tillman story? Tillman just like other brain washed Americans actually believe there were terrorists and he wanted to end his NFL career to be a hero and go fight them. Well guess what? He finds out the entire war is a scam, and we were in afghanistan for the opium, marijuana, and other resources. He planned to come back and tell everyone. Senate found out and said no way, so they put 3 bullets in his head.
macryan19 2 days ago
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Cenk hit the nail right on the head. Libertarians are just like communists. Completely divorced from reality; they live in a fantasy land.
CullTheLivingFlower 2 weeks ago
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CullTheLivingFlower 2 weeks ago
So this Cenk character is somehow under the impression that allowing donations is the problem here. If you don't allow donations, they'll do it in secret. If you don't allow donations, the rich guys win every time. The issues are corruption and incentive. If politicians followed the constitution, and had no control over the money, the corporate money wouldn't be offered. This "more laws" business needs to die; we have enough laws, and all we need is for people to follow them.
grawss 1 month ago
@grawss
Strawman, what RonTards and creationists can only do.
No retard, he is against CORPORATE "donations." The correct term is bribes.
mecher3k 2 weeks ago
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mckheu 1 month ago
Sooooooo.... what exactly is placed in jeopardy by going with Paul's ideals? On the one hand you say they're noble and righteous, and on the other you say they're no good because they're not practical? And the other corrupt politicians are? I don't follow your talk. Oh wait! Yes I do. You're just part of the political hate machine.
tartredarrow 1 month ago
@tartredarrow
I can pretend nuking a city will save the world, thus making my intentions noble and righteous.
Too bad they are actually pure bullshit.
mecher3k 2 weeks ago
@mecher3k
Exactly. We all know it's pure bullshit.
tartredarrow 2 weeks ago
@tartredarrow
Thus you agree that Ron Paul's idea are mostly bullshit.
mecher3k 2 weeks ago
@mecher3k
No. I agree that most OTHER politicians are full of pure bullshit.
tartredarrow 2 weeks ago
@tartredarrow
So is Ron Paul.
I for one like having more then just Intel making CPUs.
mecher3k 2 weeks ago
Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy.
But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you -- Jesus Christ
Crazy talk?
Maybe you should keep in mind that Ron Paul is actually a true evangelical Christian, before making that kind of comments!
Clorell 1 month ago
Campaign Finance Reform won't stop lobbying, it won't stop wars, it won't stop subsidies and bailouts and handouts, it won't stop anything at all.
sheepOG 1 month ago 2
@earsonsounds
oops Retroactive
earsonsounds 1 month ago
@earsonsounds
And while we're on this pipe dream, lets make it interactive.
earsonsounds 1 month ago
How about a Mind Your Own Business Tax. 1. You can contribute all you want to campaigns that concern elections that you are eligible to vote in. 2. You will pay a progressive tax on the total amount of contributions. 3. Total contributions=T in dollars. Denominator=D. The tax amount =T^2/D
If D=10000 and T=$100 then T^2/D=100*100/10000=$1 and T=$1000 =$100 You refers to individuals only. Corporations and Unions forbidden to contribute.
"Un-biased" Media spinners will be flogged.
earsonsounds 1 month ago
Why is there a rick perry ad before this??
1Mafioso4 1 month ago
Dammit doc, why you gotta go so crazy?
MyTemporaryAccount88 1 month ago
Why is it such a bad idea to promote morality and good? You can argue that it's not human nature to act this way, but isn't the essence of human nature our ability to evolve and adapt ideas? Perhaps it's time we evolve our political ideas and hold politicians accountable to morality and actions based upon beliefs and not money. I typically enjoy the young turks, but in my opinion, holding these types of views will do nothing to help progress our species.
NateBjammin 1 month ago
@NateBjammin
If you believe in evolution, we would be considered as animals. Animals rely on survival. And sometimes this survival can involve people doing greedy things. It's already in the genetic makeup. Rather than force people to change, we have regulations in place
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...RP doesn't take corporate money
mufc4everch 1 month ago
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Actually... no Cenk! He was saying that if the federal govt. didn't have control over all of the aspects of your life, they wouldn't have the ability to sell out because they wouldn't have anything to offer.
Who would lobby the federal govt. if the govt. didn't run the economy???? This has nothing to do with police, or the military, etc...
We would still have issues but on a state level. It's easier for ME to march on Atlanta for change than to rally the whole U.S. & march on D.C.
gary031183 1 month ago
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gary031183 1 month ago
It's not a 'Paulbot' reaction to say that Cenk misquoted him. Whether it was on purpose or not(I don't think it was, TYT is just very impulsive, not spending to much time on their exposition and background research for any subject), is not the problem. It's that he misquoted him and got a completely different message. Ron Paul OF ALL PEOPLE is not naive enough to think that politicians will stop taking the money, he wants to rid them of the reason to have money given to them by corporations.
MontajBlaze 1 month ago
This seems to be a distraction than a serious conversation.
3o4Titties 1 month ago
Wow, Cenk didn't even read the article completely. He wants to remove the power of politicians so that there is no problem in corporations supporting politicians with money, because it'll be a 'wasted effort' for the corporations. And as we all know, Campaign Finance Reform doesn't do jack shit against the 'greedy' politicians who use loopholes all the time, all it does is stop honest people from supporting politicians, that's what Paul was getting at.
MontajBlaze 1 month ago
I HAVE BEEN STUDYING AND SERIOUSLY LOOKING INTO THE ISSUES FOR OVER A DECADE NOW AND I CAN HONESTLY SAY THAT I AGREE WITH DR. RON PAUL 100% ON EVERY ISSUE, THERE IS NOT ONE THING I DISAGREE WITH HIM ON.
D10SdelFutbol 1 month ago
@D10SdelFutbol I'v never met a person ever that i have agreed with on every issue. You may want to check yourself.
Saebeck32 1 month ago
@Saebeck32 Then you need to meet more people,.. I don't have to check myself at all, I've deeply studied the Issues, their relation to the US Constitution and the present state of our Economy as well as our Civil/Economic Liberties and Dr. Paul is 100% correct on all the issues, I've felt this way for years now.
So, go be condescending somewhere else.
D10SdelFutbol 1 month ago
@D10SdelFutbol I'm the one being condescending? You're the one saying Ron Paul can do no wrong, while disrespecting the people who endured beatings at sit-ins in the 1960's to desegregate lunch counters!!
Saebeck32 1 month ago
@Saebeck32 How is agreeing with Dr. Paul condescending?.... I don't get it.
And.. I'm a minority here in the US who has experienced real racism in school and in the work place,... but I STILL UNDERSTAND LIBERTY..... The one principle that made America the Greatest Nation in the History of the World.
Under the principle of Liberty you have the right to be whatever you want to be, even a racist and property rights are protected even if open to the public.
I agree with him 100%
D10SdelFutbol 1 month ago
Or simply in another words POLITICIANS WILL NEVER DO THE RIGHT THING!.
CeNationNGU010 1 month ago
@jjcale1111 "The founders of the USA were the very practical people.. they saw war, hyperinflation and tyranny and they set up a system of govt to prevent these things..."
Which then led to a civil war over the idea of "state's rights," used to justify inhuman slavery. The government has changed, and some of us have learned the real lessons of history instead of choosing to live in a dreamworld where the founding fathers were prophets bringing gov't from God to the people.
571jans 1 month ago
I agree that some of RPs ideas are a bit out there but you should also consider how he want to rule, he wants the country to be taken back to its roots, the constitution. He wont do as Obama did create a ton of new legislation. What he would do is mostly repeal and vito most bills that are unconstitutional. If congress doesn't agree with him on his weak points you will have nothing to worry about if he gets president, make sure you tell your congress person about your opinion.
serNevh 1 month ago
You mean the homophobic millionaire, conservative, Dr "let em die" is against campaign finance reform? Don't tell that to his apostles who are busy lying to, I mean convincing, progressives that Dr. "let em die" isn't part of the same wealthy elite controlling this country. LOL
bigge525 1 month ago
@BalazarsBrain ever think that the reason these banks made these "Really risky bets" was because they knew they had a government they could bitch into giving them money? MY god you are stupid...if we had even more regulation on the business world there would be an even greater amount of lobbyists.
wetwillyoffilly 1 month ago
pff i used to have respect for TYT but this is just soooo bluntly biased.
basically what Ron Paul says is: seperate corporations from politics. I personally think that's a pretty damn good idea. I'm almost 100% sure that if a democrat would propose that Cenk would be riding his dick calling it a sign of ideals and morals. but nooooo now that a republican says it suddenly it's not idealistic but childish and unrealistic?? biased bullshit.
Neworder748 1 month ago
@Neworder748 At no point has TYT claimed to be unbiased. So you either didn't actually respect TYT or you're an idiot. Either way, nobody cares.
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@inademv @inademv actually they made a video specifically to rant about how honest and balanced their news coverage is supposed to be see here: /watch?v=dnabtmkT0o0
Also: herp derp he doesn't care about me so I don't care deeerp
grow up.
Also you can't deny that if a democrat or whoever it is that TYT agree with would say such a thing that Ron Paul said they'd praise that person for standing up for their ideals. And I'm not even a paultard would NEVER vote for the guy.
Neworder748 1 month ago
@Neworder748 I guess you don't know that coverage can be honest and still biased. Half the show is opinion and analysis. I reiterate, shut the hell up. Forever.
inademv 1 month ago
How does any government claim to grant human rights to ideas/organizations?
Can a law manifest the dead into the living?
Obviously not. The minds, hearts and souls of mankind are steeped in decay and rot from within.
We are experiencing a malfunction of spiritual processes operating within our species.
We know to do good and don't do it.
So then, the tower will fall, regardless of what type of empire the people build.
This is why it is said; The meek will inherit the land.
MrFailing 1 month ago
@MrFailing I liked harry potter better.
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(0:15,0:30)+(0:36,0:45) = 24 seconds of (somewhat) substantial discussion.
(0:46,3:15) = 2 minutes and 29 seconds of horrible analogies and bad attempts to discredit free-market politics (which I believe he doesn't understand).
This man obviously doesn't understand free-market economics, and since my comment length is limited, here is a book I would recommend: "Economics in One Lesson: The Shortest & Surest Way to Understand BASIC ECONOMICS"
lcphr3ak 1 month ago
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To All those libs thinking that Ron Paul is racists, check this out. A REAL journalist getting to the bottom of things with the newsletters, unlike Cenk.
Type youtube(dot)com in front of both links:
/watch?v=95CagSkXZYc&
And they Actually found out who wrote the newsletters:
/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=vUhiabSf2FA
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I am not supporter. but I go with the fact that he has help people directly than no other politician have done.....whatever you say!! RON PAUL 2012!!! you will see young Turkish people.
thedoaba 1 month ago
Cenk doesn't get it. Ron Paul is talking about taking the INCENTIVE to buy the congressmen in Washington away by making the STATES the regulators.
THUS, there would be no purpose in buying the Congressmen. The people of the STATES will have to make sure that they have proper STATE regulations in place over their elections or their STATE reps will be bought and sold.
That is what Ron Paul ment by his statements. Again Cenk just doesn't get it.
xsithos 1 month ago
@xsithos What ever you believe or what I believe thats what America is all about. I say abolish the inside interests of the politicians the "lobbiest".
patsy352 1 month ago
@xsithos No, you dont get it, state politicians are often already bought and that wont happen less just because it cant happen at the federal level. Its just as easy, if not easier to buy state regulators and the people still cant compete with the money thrown at state people, or future state "regulators".
RP has too much faith in his false beliefs and is refusal to look at empirical evidence.
waltermh111 1 month ago
@waltermh111 You dishonor the sacrifice of people that endured beatings at sit-ins in the 1960's. The law says: if you're open to the public, that means everybody. "Whites only" was a stain on our society and liberals did the right thing outlawing the practice. You Fox News Tea Party nuts stand NO chance in changing the law that has stood for 47 years. I hope one day you'll wise up. Ya ever wonder why there aren't any black folks that share your views?
Saebeck32 1 month ago
@Saebeck32 I'm a minority and i disagree with you, I have felt pure racism here in America but still.... LIBERTY IS FOR ALL AND EVERYONE HAS THE RIGHT TO BE WHAT THEY WANT TO BE, EVEN A RACIST.... SO IF THEY DON'T WANT TO SERVE ME IN THEIR PUBLIC ESTABLISHMENT I WILL GO SOMEWHERE ELSE BUT NO ONE HAS ANY RIGHTS OVER PRIVATE PROPERTY.. EVEN IF IT'S OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.
D10SdelFutbol 1 month ago
@D10SdelFutbol That's not what the law has said for the last 45 years. Don't you think we're a better country for outlawing racial discrimination?
Saebeck32 1 month ago
@Saebeck32 you wrote to the wrong person, not sure if you already noticed it, i am a bit behind on my emails.
waltermh111 1 month ago
@waltermh111
Look, accountability increases the more local the government.
As an example, imagine if the banker bailouts happened, but the regulations on the banks were set by the states. Even states that wanted to do a tarp fund COULDN'T because other states who kept the proper regulations wouldn't agree to it. Not only that, because the printing of money is done at the federal level separating the regulations at the state level PREVENTS IT ENTIRELY. Unless the state wants bankruptcy.
xsithos 1 month ago
@xsithos Thats actually not true.
If you follow local news, at least this is the case in my area, there isnt more accountability except where we have democratic options.
But libertarians hate such things, mob mentality and all.
But overall, since most things arent, we get screwed alot.
Look at all the complaints just about the PTO, lol
But really, at the local level, its still screwed up. Too much money on all levels.
As for your example, I honestly didnt understand it.
waltermh111 1 month ago
What Ron Paul has to say is exactly what Chenk is saying. What he proposes sounds so good but in reality? So if he was voted President how long would it take his ideals to come? Repubs don't like him and Dems don't like him. Think about it is all I say. And he wants to do away with social security, police, fire dept and welfare etc. believing if NO taxes people will have more money and can rely on friends and family. Really??
patsy352 1 month ago
@patsy352 Really. I'll give you a small example. How many times have police come and filled up your tank when you ran out of gas on the road? Now how many times have your friends done that for you?
sgisi414 1 month ago
@sgisi414 That is a good point, I see the states roadside assistance helping people quite often. Never had to use it luckily, instead once I did wait over half hour and paid a roommates for a gas can to fuel me up :/
At least I wasnt too far from home at that time.
Would have wanted the assistance if I was outside the city or further from home which I often was.
waltermh111 1 month ago
Ron Paul isn't a problem, he's the solution
nottinmatterz2day 1 month ago
dont restrict the citizens rights
punish the politicians who take bribes more severly for treason against american people
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@MrStatu101 And when will that ever be enforced? Name me the bankers who were prosecuted over the recent economic crisis they caused? Despite much of what they did being grossly illegal and consequently damaging to the world economy, the law doesn't apply. So tell me when it would with politicians.
leonx360 1 month ago
@leonx360 when we can prove it and when we have someone that cares
MrStatu101 1 month ago
As Marx said, the greed and incompetence of the top strata of society will inevitably create the conditions whereby they are hanged from the gallows and an overthrow of the current system is made possible
It was on the verge of happening in the 30's, but sane and intelligent people managed to stop it through replacing laissez faire-capitalism with a social democratic, mixed economy
It appears that the rich once again have shot themselves in the foot and are leading us into another Depression
atosafi1 1 month ago 11
@atosafi1 You don't seem to understand history. All the "mixed economy" created was a bubble, which would burst a while later due to deficit spending ("thin-air money"). The same thing is happening today; a bigger government is spending money we don't have in order to make it to the next election so they don't look bad. We're definitely going to hit a depression, but remember: We have a mixed economy, not capitalism. What will you blame this time?
grawss 1 month ago
Actually, what Marx predicted has come to fruition
As Lenin said "The capitalists will sell us the rope by which we will hang them". In other words, the greed and short-sightedness of the top strata of society will create the conditions whereby an overthrow of the current system will be made possible
We stopped it from happening during the 30's as FDR, Keynes and other Social Democrats ditched laissez-faire in favour of social democracy, the market fundamentalists appear not to have read history
atosafi1 1 month ago 2
@atosafi1 You know, my favorite Star Trek series is DS9, and after watching the Ferengis for a while, I think the money-driven aliens would've actually been disgusted with these modern Wall Street capitalists. Because the Ferengi would see them as destructively short-sighted, not seeing the long-term profits from controlling one's greedy impulses & smashing so much other profit-potential areas (like the environment & education) in their short-sightedness.
cleanhomer 1 month ago 6
FREE speech can have no governmental limitation. Otherwise, no speech is free, it is merely granted.
DollreeMappEsq 1 month ago
@BalazarsBrain excessive corporatism is a result of excessive governmental power. If the government had not bailed out wallstreet most corporations would not be doing so well (to say the least). Once again you prove the effectiveness of providing misinformation to the severely uneducated public.
wetwillyoffilly 1 month ago
@wetwillyoffilly Exactly, The government wouldn't have so much money to 'return on investment' with stimulus and bailouts without the FED and IRS(specifically being really high for the IRS, with FED it's on principle) . Corparayions will actually have to STOP making stupid decisions, like pollution or badloaning, if they wanted to stay in business, rather than doing it anyways then asking for a bailout...
MontajBlaze 1 month ago
@MontajBlaze
"Corparayions will actually have to STOP making stupid decisions, like pollution or badloaning, if they wanted to stay in business, rather than doing it anyways then asking for a bailout..."
What's stopping a Chinese Manufacturing Plant in Beijing from turning their air quality into a toxic mix of crap thicker than soup?...no wonder everyone wears masks there!
I don't see many boycotts of goods we buy from China based on Pollution concerns.
BalazarsBrain 1 month ago
@BalazarsBrain Hmm, guess there must not be a lot of people who stand up and think that they can stand against corporations if in California there was a massive showing for a vote on a constitutional amendment against corporations being treated as individuals... It's not as 'rare' as you think...
MontajBlaze 1 month ago
@wetwillyoffilly
"excessive corporatism is a result of excessive governmental power”
How about excessive governmental crony capitalism is a direct result of excessive Corporate lobbying…which I blame on Ron Paul, and others who don’t support an overhaul of campaign finance legislation.
Furthermore, If you think formal government is the only way a Corporation can lord over citizens, I'm afraid you're the one whose misinformed...look up OPEC, or any other Oligopoly/Monopoly.
BalazarsBrain 1 month ago
@wetwillyoffilly
"If the government had not bailed out wallstreet"
Bailout was the only choice due to LACK of regulation...thanks to the repeal of the Glass Steagall act, banks can make extremely risky bets directly putting our bank deposits at risk. You think the citizens would stand for anything less than a bailout when their bank deposits begin to disappear?
BalazarsBrain 1 month ago
I'm hard core for Ron Paul, but this is a little naive.
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408 reich wingers hate this video, America, and freedom
pistolpete1st 1 month ago
libertarianism is riddled with faith in humanity... thinking humans and business can self regulate.
the corruption of politicians is proof enough 90% of people will lie cheat and steal if not heavily regulated. I wish i had the faith in humanity that libertarians do... but im pretty positive, they are wrong.
Left to their own devices, corporations and people will devour one another, not help each other. History has shown this.
LiekABaus 1 month ago 2
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@LiekABaus Please read THE LAW - by Frederic Bastiat so you can quite sounding so ignorant. Thanks
D10SdelFutbol 1 month ago
Ron Paul is an out of touch, dithering old man.
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@jerzy862 , go stick your head up your ass, because you damn well know it fits. Good day.
bigbrownlatino 1 month ago
@bigbrownlatino mad? your candidate is a kook. deal with it.
jerzy862 1 month ago
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@jerzy862 Another troll who never did any research on the man.
D10SdelFutbol 1 month ago
We're going to need someone a little more realistic in office if anything is going to be solved....
TheCreeperhunter 1 month ago
The Ron Paul Zombies will now either have to revise their thinking or attack Cenk. Guess what they'll do.
BottleConcreteBlond 1 month ago 18
@BottleConcreteBlond If this was any other candidate then yes, the majority of the people would attack him personally. But since they're "Ron Paul Zombies" they'll probably just stick to attacking his point and what he's saying if they disagree with it to begin with. Those paultarded paulbot sheeple, amirite? What do you expect from those blind, mindless, 9/11 truther conspiracy theorists? They're crazy!
Frowned 1 month ago
@BottleConcreteBlond Or we could disagree with his assessment?
3o4Titties 1 month ago
@3o4Titties Or you could just be zombies who attack anyone who disagrees with him.
BottleConcreteBlond 1 month ago
@BottleConcreteBlond I've never "attacked" anyone. I'm not a fan of confrontation. I think Ron Pauls message and the libertarian argument speaks for itself, especially in the times were living in.
3o4Titties 1 month ago
@EBurwell What about Ayn Rand inspiring her friend Alan Greenspan to build the free market system that crashed the world economy? And yes, Alan is that old and he admitted this and promptly retired.
walkertongdee 1 month ago
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@walkertongdee What I've said about Ayn Rand;
"I love Ayn Rand's fictions, the heros, the conflicts, and the triumphant resolutions. Boy! if only reality could be like that.
I also like the concept of of Utopia, I'd love to have all my needs met at my slightest request. Boy! if only reality could be like that.
Reality don't work that way, and it never will, and it NEVER should."
EBurwell 1 month ago
@walkertongdee Greenspan retired in 2006 and he practised Randian Economics, but Bernanke sat on his lap and continued his policies. No wonder the economy collasped.
Ayn Rand's fictions are enjoyable but applying them to reality sucks. The philosophy of "Atlas Shrugged" was to let those that have it keep it and screw everyone else.
Once again, Reality don't work that way, and it never will, and it NEVER should.
EBurwell 1 month ago
Sounds like an anarchist to me. Well, if he wins, we'll see just how much anarchism will fuck you Americans in the ass.
Anarchists are such dreamers. Sure, we all want to live together in harmony. Who doesnt. But that's not the way the rest of the world wants. You and I, we want to live in peace and get along joyously. But the others want segregation, murder, rape, greed, and destruction of all humanity. That's why we need laws. To keep the 90% of psychos in check.
Domzdream 1 month ago
waw this is the most wrong shit ever been said on this show..
thisguyrighthere3 1 month ago
Wrong Paul is no different then anyother reich winger, so fiancial reform is tax cuts to the rich and tax hikes on the poor.
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@pistolpete1st damn you are so wrong!
D10SdelFutbol 1 month ago
@D10SdelFutbol Playing the world's smallest violin for you reich winger.
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@pistolpete1st Now defending the Constitution is being a Nazi,.... what loony house are you connected from?
D10SdelFutbol 1 month ago
Picking and choosing elements of Libertarianism doesn't work. You take the power away from the government so you take the money out of it. Campaign finance would not need reform if If you restrict the government to only the enumerated powers - politicians wouldn't have anything to sell.
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@bobisaboy Talk to me when you have something coherent to say.
sfm073 1 month ago
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@bobisaboy
"Both the left and right are screwing the people."
Must be nice to be mentally retarded.
mecher3k 1 month ago
Why do you hate the Tooth Fairy? Why do you hate on Santa? Leave Santa Claus the fuck alone.
tamerseeker 1 month ago
flash you fucking up big time.
Xytos 1 month ago
What does the Federal Government have that is worth buying?
The ability to control people's lives.
Why don't people like our campaign system?
Because of how it affects our lives.
So what if we remove the Federal Government's ability to control all of our lives, and leave it to the more manageable State politicians whom we can more easily impeach if we don't like their policies?
No, we can't do that!
chrlpolk 1 month ago
Okay at this point ron paul could mandate that all puppies and kittens should be euthanized and declare war on happiness and his supporters would just claim that we were not looking at it from a "certain point of view" i say remove the cap on campaign finance but after every million per person it should be taxed heavily!
TestMonkey254 1 month ago
This isn't just Ron Paul's view on campaign finance reform. Obama, the Republicans and every politician agree with him. What's important is Ron Paul's views don't change based on where his campaign financing comes from.
1thruZ 1 month ago
Cenk your view of Marxism is really poor.
robertrulebirtannia 1 month ago
Ron Paul is against globalization, fuck him!
Joeses15 1 month ago
@Joeses15
Globalization sucks.
it is destroying all culture
it is slowly destroying what humans have stribed for across the globe into a mush of americanization worldwide
GermansMustDie 1 month ago
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@Joeses15 so you want globalization under the control of the foreign UN/IMF?... did you fall on your head?
D10SdelFutbol 1 month ago
Unfortunately I think Ron Paul is correct in his analyses that bills to reform campaign donations really is largely posturing.
Say, if these politicians weren't so easy to bribe would the lobbyists come knocking?
Personally I think it's a character/moral issue. Whether you legislate to make campaign funds purely from taxes, that still won't go as far as to prevent favors politicians receive after they leave office (employed as advisers/consultants by companies they helped).
AleXGT7 1 month ago
Ron Paul wrote that article in 2002. Considering how much rampant lobbying has gone on since that time, especially being in politics he should know, whether he has changed his stance on campaign finance reform. Unlikely though.
FlyingThruCanyons 1 month ago
I told you Ron Paul was a flake. LOL
ViciousOneWon 1 month ago
The only reason large corporations want to buy the federal government at all is because of the controlling power it has. If you decrease the government's power to control people's lives, you take away corporate incentive to buy the politicians.
chrlpolk 1 month ago
A lot of Paul supporters don't realize that Excessive government power is ONLY ONE SIDE of the coin...Excessive Corporate Power is the other side of it.
Free market sounds all great and dandy, but if you trust Wallstreet to magically regulate itself, you're crazy! If you trust manufacturing plants to magically regulate how much pollution they spew out, you're crazy!
BalazarsBrain 1 month ago 13
@BalazarsBrain You're right, The 'power' is two way, not just "corporates took over politicians", but that Politicians let them. Paul proposes giving government so little power to bend the economy that companies would be better off spending their money actually doing work....
Also on the second part, instead of having to go to government to ask the to stop polluting(which most don't get regulated), the people as a whole could take it directly to a company.You could smear a company and boycott.
MontajBlaze 1 month ago
@MontajBlaze
"the people as a whole could take it directly to a company"
I'm sorry but that sounds extremely idealistic. How many people do you know who stop and think for even a split second where or how their cheap, Chinese appliance was made as they're walking down the isle in Walmart?
BalazarsBrain 1 month ago
Cenk,
You have to take Ron Paul in total. If his view on small federal government were accepted, then there would not be any corporate money buying candidates. Having a socialist government (like you want) AND Ron Paul's non-campaign finance reform would be disastrous (as you say). Paul presents a total system change.
A1373S9865 1 month ago
Santabunny
lota68 1 month ago
Ron Paul is the best option from a non-American point of view. He would stop all of America's wars. Also, he would allow corporations to do what they want. So there would be more outsourcing and offshoring.It would be a sad day for American people though, but outsiders will barely be affected.
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humanity as a whole needs to grow up and take responsibility alot of folk are still in their puberty when it comes to issue's in their personal and bussiness lives. however giving freedom that ron paul is talking about can do either two things. it can either bring people together and allow a greater understanding of one another. or it can do the exact opposite due to people being people and wanting everything for themselfs.
tqrules01 1 month ago
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humanity as as hole needs to grow up and take responsibility alot of folk are still in their puberty when it comes to issue's in their personal and bussiness lives. however giving freedom that ron paul is talking about can do either two things. it can either bring people together and allow a greater understanding of one another. or it can do the exact opposite due to people being people and wanting everything for themselfs.
tqrules01 1 month ago
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humanity as as hole needs to grow up and take responsibility alot of folk are still in their puberty when it comes to issue's in their personal and bussiness lives. however giving freedom that ron paul is talking about can do either two things. it can either bring people together and allow a greater understanding of one another. or it can do the exact opposite due to people being people and wanting everything for themselfs.
tqrules01 1 month ago
humanity as as hole needs to grow up and take responsibility alot of folk are still in their puberty when it comes to issue's in their personal and bussiness lives. however giving freedom that ron paul is talking about can do either two things. it can either bring people together and allow a greater understanding of one another. or it can do the exact opposite due to people being people and wanting everything for themselfs.
tqrules01 1 month ago
Being British, I would like Ron Paul to become president. Yes, his domestic policies are disastrous and dangerous, but they don't affect me so I couldn't give a crap. His foreign policy however, is absolutely correct and it does affect me so I'd love it if he became president, even if its only for one term so he can stop the senseless wars.
BTW, Pail supporters need to get a grip. Cenk has praised him on many occasions so stop your whining.
HasanSIM14 1 month ago
again, like the last 2 weeks, cenk doesnt seem to understand anything at all.
MachinaSapien 1 month ago
why does this video only have 305 views? O_O
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This is the one thing I agree with Cenk on against Paul's views. The system wouldn't be corrupt right now if special interests weren't dumping in money to buy politicians off. While Paul's ideals are with merit, they aren't realistic considering the mess we live in now. I think we should have rules that the rich can only donate a small amount and businesses can't donate at all.
shadowedge69 1 month ago 36
@shadowedge69 Yeah I agree.....the stupid smear of supposed racist comments was one thing....but this is definitely the root of the problems of Washington and if anyone realized that I would have hoped Ron Paul did. Fuck I guess I'm voting for Buddy Roehmer now because Obama will never get my vote again.
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@jallison79 It's ironic so many people believe the racist comments by Paul's newsletter considering the lack of evidence and strong counter evidence that disapproves it. Sadly I think most of the radical left and right want to use this to demonize Paul because it's all the dirt they can find. It's stunning how many blacks Paul has touched even during the time of segregation. A doctor who delivered a bi-racial baby in the 60's is the closet thing to a saint we have in politics.
shadowedge69 1 month ago
@shadowedge69 Yeah that's why I completely dismissed it and flamed Cenk for reporting that garbage. This however is just one of the crazy sides of this conservative candidate that I was willing to look past because what other options do we actually have? But I don't know now.....our whole system is so fucked I'm about to stop trying and just move off the grid.
jallison79 1 month ago
@jallison79 I thought about moving off the grid myself until I realized the Amish's days are numbered already. That's if things remain the status quo. I'm more concerned about the future of the country. China is giving us credit for these wars now, but they don't support any actions against Iran. If China calls in our loans, the country will default and we'll probably have to get rid of our rights to join up with Mexico and Canada to form one country. North American union
shadowedge69 1 month ago
Cenk does his best again to smear ron paul. if ron would had wanted to to limit the amount spent on campaigns then I guess Cenk would have gone wild about ron flipflopping. If government would be as small as ron paul wants, then it would be a complete waste for them to give politicans any contributions, since they would not have any power to give big businesses bailouts or perks!
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@RiktigPolitik the govt just make bribery more efficient.... its going to happen whenever it serves the interest of the "briber" who have the means. i dont think cenk is trying to smear ron paul, he just has a diffent perspective on how to solve problems.
daw329 1 month ago
Cenk, you take statements like this and apply it to YOUR ideology instead taking his statement and applying it to HIS ideology.
In a limited government America that doesn't hand out subsidies and regulations that favor big business, there would be little to NO incentive for Corporations to bribe politicians. They would be accountable to the PEOPLE from whom they make their PROFITS from rather than GOVERNMENT gifting them taxpayer money and rigging the system in their favor with regulations.
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@painet1776 explain how limited government happens if corps buy our politicans? you are such a clown and in a cult and you are too stupid to realize it.
Yayoballer 1 month ago
@painet1776 Cenk is aware of that, listen to the first 60 seconds.
Ron Paul supporters need to get with it
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392 people think it's good that politicians take bribes, fuck you people.
BannedUfos 1 month ago 55
@BannedUfos Paulites are completely brainwashed.
aaronpolitical 1 month ago
@BannedUfos No, it's probably more like "397 (now) people are idealists just like Ron Paul."
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Pass this photo on --- Ron Paul
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ManNorthern 1 month ago
That's not Marx--I think he believed that there would be some worker's state or something, or at least that workers would seize the state apparatus. It sounds a lot like a brand of anarchism which is abundant in the Pacific Northwest and, based on some of the rhetoric surrounding the General Assemblies, I think at OWS as well (i.e. everything horizontal, no authority at all, etc).
Not all anarchists are this naive, though (e.g. Chomsky).
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@kueefs That's what I meant by "ending the drug war"
Saebeck32 1 month ago
Ron Paul sorry*
mexcar007 1 month ago
I think this host does not understand what Ron Paul is saying. Ron Puzo wants to get the power away from the government, EPA, energy department,etc. Thereby not corruptible. Cent wants to give more power to the government to stop the government from being corrupt, who's crazy here?
mexcar007 1 month ago
@mexcar007 You only think of Government, how about corporations ? Will Ron takes the power away from the corperations ? May be you don't understand what Ron's Libertarian mean ?
ahantu 1 month ago
he wants to get rid of every government department too, just because something is not in the constitution dose not mean it should not be, that's fucking stupid baby talk, like the Dept. of Energy, as if anyone would look to the constitution on how to deal with the aging nuclear weapons stock piles ( just one of the jobs of the dept. of energy ) the constitution also dose not cover environmental pollution but i guess the US should get rid of the EPA and all environmental laws?
phoboskitty 1 month ago
@phoboskitty If the majority of the people of the US disagree with the constitution then it should be amended; not walked all over as if it doesn't exist.
TheAlibabatree 1 month ago
Cenk is an idiot. The problem isn't legislation, the problem is the government power. The government's ability to use force to take property and to give income tax credits/subsidies and grants force big businesses to buy politicians. If we didn't have such a powerful government, many of the perceived problems in regards to corrupt politicians would melt away.
Y2kplaya92 1 month ago
@Y2kplaya92 Go Away Ron Paul cultist.
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@thesparitan Then you want most of the military active duty members to "go away" because they overwhelmingly support Dr. Paul.
D10SdelFutbol 1 month ago