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  • Even if they were right, and the sun had a larger impact on global climate, wouldn't that just spell more trouble ahead?

    The current "cooling" is not really a cooling trend, and temperatures are still higher than they were at the previous solar minimum.

  • Conspiracy theory is all the deniers have these days. It's sad that this vocal group has to be constantly corrected. This takes time away from actually addressing the issue.

  • Alex Jones sure is entertaining - he puts Denis Leary to shame!

  • Here is what the scientists said that did these staudies. They are clearly on the fence:

    "Hill said that some researchers say that the Sun’s activity can also play a role in climate change, but in his opinion, the evidence is not clear-cut. Altrock commented he doesn’t want to stick his neck out about how the sun affects... Earth’s climate, and Penn added that Cycle 25 may provide a good opportunity to find out if the activity on the Sun contributes to climate change on Earth."

  • Why do you think I have a report on hand from a psychologist about my intelligence?

    I don't feel someone that lacks the basic critical thinking to understand that the moon cannot cause earthquakes, believes that AGW is not happening or can construct a fucking sentence, is in a position to lecture me on my intellectual short comings. Regardless of what my IQ is or what my intelligence is I can honestly say I believe that I am smarter then you. So your insults cannot hurt me, try again

  • @thesparitan

    You should visit a shrink, it would show you that you are a low intelligent low life.

    Sentense, tell me one I made wrong, now I ask you about one of yours...... I like the I know you are but what am I come back, mature........ What the hell does that mean, you low life member of the compact majority.

  • @kennjohnsen I am low intelligent low life? Well that is just down right low of you.

    So anyways troll, if I can call you troll now I know your page is unavailable which is a good sign you been trolling, Do you believe that the moon effects earthquakes as peirs believes? And what is earth grow?

    Just answer those two question and stop bringing the issue to me. If you believe someone tell people, why keep it secret. Unless its something everyone will laugh at, which I think is likely.

  • @thesparitan

    Where is my wrong grammar exactly ? I need to know, because I need to learn.

  • @kennjohnsen I said fill instead of feel, its not your grammar, its sentence structure but I am not much better it was a clever jab because you were attacking my intelligent and I thought it was funny.

    But I am honestly curious, do you believe the moon has an effect on earthquakes and do you have evidence of this and what did you mean by "earth grow?

  • @thesparitan

    It was not a clever jab when you are not better, was it, and when you are an English speaking, and I am not, it should make you the funny, should it not ?

    I don't know, if the Moon effect the Earthquakes. This is a new area for Pier Corbyn, and I haven't listened that much to his idea. Just remember much of his work is quite simple, he looks at the solar - Moon magnetism ....solar eruptions, of today, and then he goes back to what the weather was like the last time.

  • @kennjohnsen The moons tidal forces can have an effect on the water pressure on some faults, and they might even be very weak evidence that minor earthquakes have been caused indirectly by the moon, but for someone to claim to be a scientist and also say without any evidence that the supermoon caused the japan earthquake, even though it wasn't at the minimum distance from the earth is means he is ether really stupid or insane.

    He doesn't publish his methods, he is lying.

  • @thesparitan

    Does he lie about his weather forecasting, are they insane. And he does not live off the state, like I think you do, If I pay for his forecasting I do it of my free will. But you force me to pay for your governments companion total useless forecasting.

  • @kennjohnsen Dude face facts, you are more stupid then me. That is beyond a doubt now. Not only do you not accept the scientific theory of AGW but you also believe in one of the most obviously batshit insane ideas ever, expanding earth.

    Watch

    watch?v=epwg6Od49e8

    Damn dude, you fucking stupid. I believe I won this debate by default. God damn dude, god damn.

  • @thesparitan

    Now just do what I said, go visit a shrink, I am sure when he is finished with you.....he will tell you in clear English that you are dumb member of the compact majority. Now go and visit that guy.

  • @kennjohnsen What is a compact majority? and psychologist don't tell you if you are stupid, that doesn't seem to be what they do, in fact that would be counter productive. I think you mean I should see someone who studies psychometrics, that would be better for finding out my intelligence.

    Ok so where does all that mass come from, you know that is making the earth bigger? Lets see if I am dumb, explain your "theory"

  • @thesparitan

    Or you can do another thing, call the experts Mensa, they know what they are doing. One thing I am sure about, when they have measured you, they will kick you out, laughing their ass off, no....

  • @kennjohnsen Wow you are really obsessed over my intelligence. I don't see how my intelligence has anything to do with your claim that the earth is growing. I don't believe in batshit ideas, you do. Why don't you prove they are not batshit and actually explain what it is you believe and why you believe it?

    You keep obsessing over my intelligence, look I don't have the problem with science here. You thought a globe shows the continents as they actually are LOL

  • @thesparitan

    Your intelligence or the lack of it, have everything to do with it. It's the reason the growing Earth - global warming - the inside job, 9/11 - the Moon landing.....and it goes on and on, is far above your head.

  • @kennjohnsen Ok ether you are a troll or have major mental issues. You might be projecting internal feelings of insecurity onto the world around you. I think this conversation has gone as far as it can go now.

    You should take your own advice and see a shrink, you seem be thinking about it. Its called projection look it up.

    Go bye crazy guy, get some help buddy. 

  • @thesparitan

    Have you thought about calling Mensa ? you should it would help you know your place.

  • @kennjohnsen "I don't know, if the Moon effect the Earthquakes. This is a new area for Pier Corbyn, and I haven't listened that much to his idea. Just remember much of his work is quite simple, he looks at the solar - Moon magnetism ....solar eruptions"

    OMG! Read a physics book. Did you fail high school physics?

  • @technatezin

    Have you read a physics book, and you don't know, that's because it's not there, is it, so you play dumb.

  • @thesparitan

    The Earth is growing, the continents are breaking up and slide away from each others. That's the reason these big animals could live 60 millions years ago and cannot live today. Just have a look at the globe, it's obvious the Earth is growing. NASA know all about it because they have measured all movement of the continents.

    Now before you start about your excellent intelligent, and thinking, and how dumb I am, show me a subducting plate ?? you can't.....you can ??

  • @kennjohnsen WOW I am stunned.

    This is so amazing, I never thought I would meet someone that actually believes in a expanding earth. I have heard about you guys. You should watch potholer54 video on the expanding earth theory.

    I feel so vindicated right now, I cannot believe the crap you deniers believe.

    So you believe the earth is expanding, where does the earth get its new from mass?

  • Izu-Bonin-Mariana Arc

    there is one example. I hope you are trolling me because right now I actually believe you might be insane. I cannot believe I was right, I was just trying to insult you. I didn't know I would be correct.

  • @thesparitan

    I was right, you are a member of the compact majority, a majority idiot. Talk to a shrink and he will tell you.

  • @kennjohnsen I will talk to a shrink and tell him what that some guy on the internet believes I am stupid because I don't believe the earth is growing, are you fucking nuts?

    I gave you an example, so what about that subducting plate. And looking at an atlas doesn't help because that is not the true shape of the continents, just the parts above water. The real continents are much larger then they look so again you are a fucking moron.

  • @thesparitan

    You have just proven you are a low life, a dumb low life member of the compact majority, because you react the way you do, when you hear something you don't understand.

  • @kennjohnsen LMAO Oh I understand it, I understand it well. I understand that it is complete crap from the minds of mad men.

    But tell me, what evidence do you have for this and a globe is not evidence. Remember that is not the actual shape of continents, just the water that covers them. So you don't believe in plate tectonics? That makes sense coming from you. Let me guess evolution is a lie too right?

    LMAO this is toooo funnny

  • @thesparitan

    Yes you are right, evolution is religion for the compact majority, like you.

  • @kennjohnsen So you don't believe in AGW, plate tectonics or evolution. What about gravity? You believe gravity is real?

    Compact majority what is that?

  • @thesparitan

    A member of the compact majority is someone like you.

  • @thesparitan

    Playing dumb, does not help, you do not tell the shrink the reason you are there, and he will not ask, dumbass.

  • @kennjohnsen "you do not tell the shrink the reason you are there, and he will not ask, dumbass."

    What do you believe a shrink is, someone that tells people they are dumb? Knowing what I do about you I wouldn't doubt you believe that is in fact the job of a shrink. But sense we don't have a "shrink" on hand. Why don't you explain to me why I am so dumb for not believing the earth is expanding.

    Were is the extra mass coming from to "expand the earth" as you say? Simple question

  • @thesparitan

    No, just tell him you have a problem, you are a dumb low life, but you would like to know how low.

  • Keep it up good buddy

  • @michalchik

    that's a big 10-4, good buddy

  • ...and that the aerosols came from volcanism. Bryson was instrumental in invoking aerosols during the late 60s and early 70s. Hence, the Climate Man Interface Conference, where Schneider, (working under Rassoul), ran a model erroneously assuming aerosols covered the earth uniformly. This assumption gave the model an "ice age". Scientific American interviews Schneider, he gets misquoted, and....... "in the 70s' they said there'd be an ice age"....and now you know.....the rest of the story..;)

  • LOL! I knew this would become a popular piece. I remember when I was in college back in the late '70s this topic was popular, since we were in a minimum and we had exceptionally cold weather. An interesting counterpoint to the Maunder Minimum came from Reid Bryson at UW Madison. His contention was that the increase of sulfate aerosols during the time had a much more profound effect on cooling than lack of sunspots. Great work, as always!!!

  • I appreciate you producing these, I know it's a lot of work, and it's a downer being on the frontlines of stuff like this. I'm going to share them around. Keep it up.

  • @929myohmy

    thanks. appreciated.

    Don't worry, plenty more to come.

  • The hysterical, outrageous and conflicting claims of the denialists would make me laugh. They can't make AGW go away so _obviously_ it's a conspiracy. *eye roll*

    You'd think that would be clue.

  • 5:17 to 5:34 is the best.

    I'm not trying to demonize this demon cult of hellish, eugenecist killer, vampiric, horrible control freaks.

    Who is that guy?

  • Read Pier Corbyn, if not for anything else, so to get another view about it, solar - Moon magnetism. He's forecasting the weather wery accurately.

  • @johnsenkenn You understand he is actually a complete wacko? He believes the earthquake in japan was caused by moon. Don't be so naive.

  • @thesparitan

    How about it's you there are a wacko, and stupid. As I said he is very accurate in weather forecasting. Don't you believe the Moon cause the tide ? so it might be that it is not the cause.....that it can hardly be.....but the trigger ?

  • @kennjohnsen So you are telling me that moon can cause earthquakes? You understand the gravitation effect on large bodies of water is fantastically weak? If you believe that earthquakes can in any way be caused by the moon, then ether you have some evidence of this in peer reviewed papers, or you are completely insane.

    You think someone like you calling me a moron will hurt my feelings, get real. Get an education dipshit.

    I like the I know you are but what am I come back, mature.

  • @thesparitan

    No where have I told you the Moon can cause Earthquake, Earthquakes are caused by tension in the Earth as the Earth grow, but something can trigger it before it trigger itself.

    You are a compact majority moron, get a brain stupid.

  • @kennjohnsen "The earth grow"? Explain please?

    So you are saying the moon had some part to play in the earthquake right, I mean you are saying its a trigger of a trigger? Wow you are really tip toeing around the issue, you must know how stupid you sound.

    I told you before someone of you intelligence cant make me feel bad about mine, I think we are looking at the opposite effect here LOL

  • @thesparitan

    You are not intelligent, show me a shrink report there show so ?? you are very....very ordinary, show me anything to the contrary.

  • @kennjohnsen Are you a troll, your channel doesn't work? I think you might be trolling the internet because you channel is not available.

    Ok troll I am done with you now.

  • @thesparitan

    No, my channel is available, I haven't blocked you or anyone else.

  • @kennjohnsen No its not, but it doesn't matter I fill like feeding you troll. I like you, you make me laugh and your insults are so shitty I find them somewhat complimenting. So I am low for asking you questions, ok makes sense. I mean your ideas are so stupid that me asking about them makes you feel stupid and that feels like an attack, seems logical. I know I would never get offended by you asking question about what I believe. I dont believe in stupid shit.

  • @thesparitan

    Have you read your comment, and checked your sentences ??

  • @kennjohnsen Just read about his predictions for 2008, they were as wrong as you can get. About as good as guessing. He is a fraud and I highly doubt anything I have said will stop you from talking his word above NASA, NAS and every major university on earth.

    You want to take the word of a lone nut trying to con people out of money, be my guest.

    Troll feeding is now over.

  • Good good, well well. But when are we going to finally start planning how we'll kill everyone's children?

  • @kirkey99

    I'm too busy trying to figure out how to save them.

  • "CO2 is PLANT FUD!"

    / Denier Zombie impression

  • @bigdog1849

    that's good. very good.

    can you do Johnny Depp as Captain Jack Sparrow?

  • I really like that you included Alex Jones in this video greenman :-) He needs to be exposed for the liar who makes slander all the time that he is. I think he very much affects deniers.

  • The IPCC said the BEST way of reducing CO2 IMMEDIATELY is to become vegetarians.

    So why doesn't Al Gore push that? Because he can't make money from it.

    Why don't the corporations, media & banks push the fastest and most effective solution available to us? Because they can't make money from it. What they push are 'solutions' where they get money & control over our lives -- that is their aim, not the climate.

    Meat eating GloBull Warming Believers are hypocrites.

  • @cytuber

    and your deductive reasoning is that, Al Gore is a hypocrite, therefore, there is no global warming.

  • @greenman3610

    If someone like you, or Al Gore, continue to say we must act IMMEDIATELY to avoid a catastrophic climate warming then ignore the fastest, most effective solution IPCC put forward, what would YOU call that person?

  • @cytuber

    Denialists can't argue on the science, so they love to go to the "Al Gore is a rascal, so there's no global warming" line. Sorry - it's not sound reasoning on the science.

    Can't speak for what Al Gore Eats. I'm not a pure veggie, but moving in that direction. There are arguments that eating locally grown foods, even meat, if it's local free range, are with the body of solutions. There are many experiments going on in agriculture that may change this equation substantially.

  • @greenman3610 I could argue about the 'science' all day, starting with the unscientific way the temperatures have been collected -- e.g for much of the last century, almost all measuring stations were on land, most stations got swallowed up by urban encroachment & some were moved from coastal areas further inland -- one is now next to an airport.

    Of course temps will rise under these conditions but that's not due to C02. Unfortunately, the raw data has been conveniently 'lost'

  • @cytuber they have made new graphs where they excluded measuring stations that could have been affected by this and found almost no difference.

  • @greenman3610 Are you aware IPCC scientists are now saying they expect the temps to cool over the next 30 years? Look it up. Yep, even with India & China joining the west in pumping out C02 at levels unheard of they NOW expect the temps to cool.

    C02 either increases temp or it doesn’t. The world is either facing a crisis from higher temps, melting ice and rising sea levels or it’s not. This is why I don’t believe their ‘science’. They really don't know.

    It's like Iraq's WMD all over again.

  • @cytuber

    aware of it? Heck man, I did the vid on it.

    watch?v=khikoh3sJg8

    oh, and the WMD? think a little bit about who was beating that drum....Dick Cheney, climate denier, ...Rush Limbaugh, climate denier, ....Fox News...Climate deniers,...right wing fundamentlaists, climate deniers.....could there be a pattern here........

  • @greenman3610 So your deductive reasoning is that, Dick Cheney and Rush Limbaugh are liars therefore climate change is happening. I believe climate changes occurs but i don't believe co2 is the major cause, no im not a fucking scientist but the scientists at the IPCC and the university of east Anglia lied and manipulated data and there are a hell of allot of scientist that believe co2 is insignificant when it comes to affecting climate change. Not to mention carbon tax fuck that.

  • @OneMove33

    My reasoning is based on the most credible statements of every relevant scientific organization on the planet.

    I know it must be embarrassing to be in the Limbaugh, Palin, Beck, Cheney, Fox and Friends camp, but hey, as Rocky said, you hang out with coco nuts, you get coco nuts for friends.

    re east anglia nonsense:

    watch?v=P70SlEqX7oY

    watch?v=eJFZ88EH6i4

    watch?v=5WvasALL-hw

  • @greenman3610 How would you know because i don't know if that's what you are insinuating. What i would like to know is how you know co2 is a major factor in climate change send me undeniable proof not just speculation. What i do know however is that carbon dioxide is a nutrient which is essential to life and there is a political agenda to tax it. Cap and trade.

  • @greenman3610 Yeah it must be embarrassing to be in the Al Gore camp hey greeman3610? You know what with him LYING!! about carbon dioxide levels rising and preceding temperature increases, your associated with a money grabbing politician..... provide me some evidence please so i can actually believe carbon dioxide is causing global warming that has so many people panicked....its all a load of bollocks just so people can make money.

  • @greenman3610 I have read those emails they openly talk about the lack of warming and even data manipulation. This fraud is unforgivable...so much for science green man you chat shit. They manipulated data because there has been a cooling trend in the last decade. Provide evidence that co2 is causing global warming go on im fucking waiting all i have seen so far is lies.

  • @OneMove33

    "hey openly talk about the lack of warming and even data manipulation."

    obviously you did not read the emails, or watch the videos. you show yourself to be dishonest by repeating those canards.

    the evidence for AGW summarized here:

    watch?v=yLYqzIhhT6o

  • @greenman3610 Yes i did...the emails that is, they said they were going to manipulate the data. Have you read the emails? If they have to manipulate data to support a theory its not going to be scientific.

  • @OneMove33

    "climate gate" nonsense debunked here:

    watch?v=P70SlEqX7oY

    watch?v=eJFZ88EH6i4

    watch?v=5WvasALL-hw

  • @OneMove33 just have to know the basic physics and chemistry behind it to know CO2 causes warming look at the wavelengths it absorbes and which it does not then what the sun emits and how the surface of the earth absorbs and emits lights that gives the basics principles of how a green house gas works. then you can look at the temperature data collected from many sources and many scientist and see what the trend is to see the warming. i read the emails too and i believe you got them out of contex

  • these climate change deniers remind me of those people who still deny evolution, no matter what proof you show them all they see is what they believe in and ignore the rest and distorts facts. Its so sad really

  • Hahahahaha this garbage is hilarious if your able to change and edit your science to your desired outcome then it's not science You D-bags are stupid the planet goes through cycles it's gonna be colder the next 10 years then it was the last 10 years

  • lol, alex jones, sunspots visible to the naked eye?

  • "THEY wanna kill ya AND your family!"

    ...sick hate mongerer...

  • great videos :D awesome! keep up the good work. someday rationality will rule!

  • @wafelijzerstekker

    thanks.

    hope you'll tell yer friends and neighbors.

  • But.. But... But.. They had a watermelon! That proves it's a communist plot! What more could you ask for! *headdesk*

  • @ferrett78

    I'll see your headdesk, and raise you a facepalm.

  • @greenman3610 Done! Though Im a little concerned that might result in a headpalm, or more painfully, a facedesk.

  • @ferrett78

    I've got the bruises to prove it.

  • @ferrett78

    .. i love watermelon, does that make me a closet communist? :(

  • @kk207 Me too! Not so loud though - the big bad government conspiracy/illuminati/bilderbe­rg/undercover CIA shills/reptilians/Galactic federation of Light will come take you away if you're not careful ;-)

  • Thanks Peter. Keep up the good work.

    Keep up debunking the rubbish from websites and shows which target an uneducated audience incapable of doing some own research and then tell the same audience how clever they are.

    Cheers.

  • @TheMrSirCharles

    It's critical to the Dunning Kruger syndrome that stupid people do not know how stupid they are.

    Ironically, this is also an effective means of controlling groups of followers -

    by assuring them they are among the elect.

  • @greenman3160 why would I watch your disinformation video. The one I did watch was based off lies your "facts" are proven lies. You are a cheerleader on the wrong team you will never except any science unless it supports you outcome and yours only. The is more proof and scientist against global warming then there is for it.

  • @dieseldudee

    curious viewers can decide for themselves.

    Thanks for giving me the opportunity to provide this information.

    watch?v=P70SlEqX7oY

    watch?v=eJFZ88EH6i4

    watch?v=5WvasALL-hw

  • Ask greenman3160 about the IPCC emails they prove his movies are based on lies. He will not talk about them. MAKE HIM

    Or ask why the founder of the weather channel and 30,000 scientist are suing al gore

    Search IPCC emails or climate-gate

    See for your self his science is proven lies

  • @dieseldudee

    I have treated the "30,000 scientists" crock here:

    watch?v=Py2XVILHUjQ

    You are spamming all my vids with requests that I talk about the emails.

    I have answered you with the links to my vids that do that

    watch?v=P70SlEqX7oY

    watch?v=eJFZ88EH6i4

    watch?v=5WvasALL-hw

    You have responded that you refuse to watch my debunking of the email non-story.

    I invite all interested viewers to evaluate the videos, and make their own judgement on their credibility.

  • Alex Jones should have his head examined he's so paranoid his views aren't even vaguely coherent.

    I mean all you have to do is listen to him speak for 5 seconds and anyone can tell that most of his sentences don't even make sense. He just tacks scary sounding words to them like "devil" or "communist" and assumes people will be too dumb to catch on.

    He's not only a fraud, he's not even very good at it.

  • Thanks for helping to expose the creepy ignorant dangerous right wing noise machine of denial and paranoia.

  • Well I'm glad the guy from UAH (which I attended) changed his mind. I would have had spread his name all over the place. 50 yrs ago not many people had air conditioners; now we scrambling to gather them for the elderly/disabled. 105-115 heat index, we are cooking. The first time I went to NOLA my 1st breath was stifling. Now it just like that N. Alabama. Hurricane Ivan made it to my doorstep, & it wasn't pretty. We are sitting here waiting for the next Katrina. Tornadoes are everywhere.

  • @Honker66

    He didn't really change his mind, but when his position was obviously not supported by reality, he moved his goal posts again. Still says warming won't be as bad as most climate scientists think. Thinks we'll be saved by some negative feedback, that's sure to kick in , any time now....

  • @greenman3610

    You probably forgot that, the relationship between solar activity and climate is is not like you a presenting it in this video. You wish that this would be wjhhat we are saying it is not. You either forget very fast or intentionally misquote Svensmark.

    /watch?v=t9zjYCjdjbg&NR=1

  • I think it's "funny" how Alex Jones finishes with a smile/smirk after saying "they want to kill you and your family!" or similar... He's not worried at all. He just wants to fear-monger and stirr up anger over made up stuff.

  • @USAneedsaChange

    revealing, is it not?

  • When the propaganda outlets (FOX, ET.AL) are allowed to adjudicate science with murky, non-science in a huge mass market to the scientifically illiterate, with no constraints on language, we are destined to repeat our ignorant, shameful history. Senator Ihofe and his minions should be fired, then flogged.

  • @dwolfcoach Keep up the NEEDED WORK Greenman!

  • @dwolfcoach

    I'm just getting started.

    But I need you, and every viewer, to share and spread these vids.

    I can't do anything without that network.

  • Great solar images. Are they from the Solar Dynamics Observatory by any chance? I saw that launched - from the other side of the world away via my home computer & NASA TV many months ago. The ability to do that is, pretty remarkable and really rocks! :-)

  • @Astrostevo

    nasa has a video on that, and I think that's where I got them.

  • Gee it seams like when we were having record snowfall & cold just this last winter, it was called "weather", now that its hot it Warming. These so called Record Highs are only recent history highs.

    Non of this matters because NOTHING you do or say will ever stop Russia, China & India from using Fossil Fuel. The US can shut down tomorrow & it will not make any difference at all. So just ride it out & when we peak & the temps begin to drop the explanations will abound.

  • @Texmurphy51

    Gee, "seams" you didn't get it that record snowfalls are exactly the kind of giant precipitation event that is predicted by scientists.

    BTW, China is eating our lunch in renewable energy, and has every intention of taking over that market, with the help of backward leaning troglodytes in the US who pine for the technology and philosophy of the 19th century.

  • @greenman3610 What would that renewable energy be?? Windmills, Solar? If you check those are totally inadequate to supply our energy needs.

    You only need to look at countries like China is manufacturing those products for the world, thats why they have it. Renewables cant even come close to supplying world wide energy needs. The only real alternative is Nuclear.

    It would require 3.5 Million GE 1.5mw wind turbines just to replace our present electric grid. Thats without backup power

  • @Texmurphy51

    curious readers may google

    sciam jacobsen renewables

    for a credible plan published in Scientific American.

    and

    Europe's Brisk energy transition to read how Europe is now 18 percent renewable. Note that Germany is the leading solar market, with a booming economy. See my vids on renewables

    watch?v=pSdnycHfLnQ

    watch?v=llIbjC49Fjs

    watch?v=WO3V2uXTM6k

  • @greenman3610

    Curious readers can visit wind-watch(dot)org/faq-output(­dot)php

    publicaffairs(dot)llnl(dot)gov­/news/news_releases/2009/image­s/energy-use_big(dot)jpg

    Understand this, KW or MW capacity is meaningless as a measurement.

    Its peak generating capacity. One has to use KWH or power over time as a true measure. Typically wind power generates about 30% of peak, best case senerio.

    Wind turbines require up to 2 years running to pay back installation energy.

  • @Texmurphy51 "Wind turbines require up to 2 years running to pay back installation energy."

    And what is turnaround for nuclear energy? I think it is considerably longer, at least the last time I looked. True?

  • @dwolfcoach True but nuclear energy takes into account teardown & desposal where Wind does not. Nuclear CAN supply enough power to substitute for oil where wind & solar cant. They are a pipe dream, this is my point. The Throium Reactor is the prefered Nuclear reaction. It produceds no bomb grade material & is very safe. Fusion of course is the ultimate but is nowhere in sight.

    China, India & Russia will continue FF usage no matter what we do so we will see if Warming is man made

  • @Texmurphy51

    wind is providing power now at costs much lower than nuclear.

    that's why people are buying tons of wind, and no nuclear.

  • @greenman3610 The only reason wind is lower cost is that its Government Subsidized. I dont think your realize how many wind turbines it would take to replace oil.

  • @Texmurphy51 Don't you think that solar (photovoltaics) in areas where sun is bountiful and utilizing our wind corridors using turbines, neither of which has fallout nor disposal issues, should be explored? Especially when coupled with hydrogen/solar combinations and lithium storage methods. These things are more promising every day. And we can create jobs through these technological avenues. Why would any one reject the promise of these technologies? Ignorance is contagious. I want to see!!

  • @dwolfcoach Problem is in the manufacture of photovoltic massive amounts of toxins like silicon tetrachloride. Thats why they are mostly made in China.

    Rare earths like indium will be used up long before enough panels can be made. I think photovoltic needs to develop cleaner panels before we commit to it. Meanwhile solar can generate power using helostate type technology. The simplest thing is to require new homes in moderate climate to have a solar preheat tank for hot water.

  • When they start arguing about the meaning of words, you know they are full of it. The word ever means all time, not the past 100 years, or the past 40 since satellites were invented.

  • the entire west coast is chilly this summer....thanks for letting me know its the hottest summer on record.

    Are you looking at those sensors located on the asphalt in the AZ desert?

  • @GreenChurchReject

    actually the satellites are showing this as well.

    But thanks for repeating another crock for me to rebut.

  • @greenman3610

    La Nina?

  • @nellre

    with the incoming la nina we can expect temperatures to ease over the coming year, and it would be surprising if 2011 is as warm as 2010.

    that's the way this works. Not a linear process, but in waves.

    By the time the next el nino comes around, we will probably be in a warmer solar cycle as well.

  • LOL hannity pulled the communist card...wait alot did... i mean that went out of style in the 1960s....

  • Damn Alex Jones has a nice voice.....

  • LOL @ Alex Jones -

    "I'm not trying to demonize anyone, but these people are DEMONS!!"

  • ...

    Well I just hope those over at Weather Action get to see this.

  • Wow, what a fantastic public service. Thank you. You help to keep things in perspective. It's crazy man. Last year I offered a bet to some of these glenn becky screambots that 2010 would be the hottest year in recorded history. Gee, looks like I am going to win. wuppee.

  • @hamnose

    I'll keep working hard.

    Your part is to spread these around, and win lots of bets.

    I'm actually thinking of a video to help people win bar bets against

    bonehead deniers.

    Readers, send in your favorite Captain Obvious climate canard.

  • @greenman3610 "Readers, send in your favorite Captain Obvious climate canard." Captain Obvious? as in obviously ridiculous pronouncements from say a Linden or Monckton? Don't know what this means.

  • So much for free speech and media openness, my channel is blocked by the alex jones channel for daring to question his almighty wisdom. You can't argue with an alex jones screambot, they follow him with reckless dogmatic devotion usually reserved for the religions of the world.

  • Everyone (i.e. all conservatives) who voted for Ronald Reagan, Bill Clinton, Al Gore, GW Bush 1 & 2 and every Republican or Democrat since 1980 is responsible for the massive global recession and depression, giving unlimited power and money to CIA/NSA/corporate welfare/Wall Street bankers -i.e. those who do no work, other than to take away our freedoms & money. Only those who voted for Greens or Socialists or environmentalists deserve to have any money or any decent quality of life.

  • @deskset24 Ok, assuming everything you just said is true. That leaves us with "the global conspiracy" which treatens to take my money, or you who treaten to take all my money AND any quality to my life. Now the million dollar question: who are the bad guys in this situation?

  • @GreenChurchReject

    You take your religious gospel from a fucking Hollywood movie writer (Chrichton) and call it SCIENCE? Karl Marx knew more about physics and the absolute laws of nature than either you or Chrichton do.

  • Rightwing alarmists still spout excrement & lies about communism, refusing to address logic, reason, and science. Only left wingers use logic.

  • @deskset24

    oh I wouldn't say that.. I'm not a "Left-Winger" I'm a Green & the Green Party have been using 'logic' for about 40 years now

    I'm not crazy about the 'colour coding' of political parties (too much like CIA revolutions), but I seriously think its time we looked beyond the Left/Right paradigm which has been used to 'divide' us for so long.

    We need to pull together to prevent a worst case scenario.. & sooner rather than later!

    Its a moral imperative now!

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  • @ejbh3160 I agree about the L/R bullshit paradigm. But so is this "pull together" bullshit. Pull together with whom? With the Wall Street terrorists who steal trillions of dollars? I'd love to shove your words down your throat with a blowtorch if it means forcing you to pull together with everyone in prison, because they are the only people I feel sorry for in this world, and there is NO difference between a "prisoner" vs a "prisoner of war". They ALL fight for a cause.

  • @deskset24

    ok so you use sophistry to make your points.. I suppose that's 'clever' too?

    if you "agree about the L/R bullshit paradigm"... then why did you say "Rightwing alarmists still spout excrement" & "Only left wingers use logic"? Its not very logical?

    When someone (like me) says "We need to pull together to prevent a worst case scenario".. why do you bang on about "prisoners".. clearly I am talking about 'we' the human race.. not about individuals (whether prisoners, poets or priests)

  • @ejbh3160 Because those who call themselves "rightwingers" (even though the term is meaningless in reality) will ALWAYS WITHOUT A SINGLE EXCEPTION EVER be the very FIRST to bring up this dichotomy, such as in their bullshit rants against communism, or environmentalism, etc. Also, I have to bang on about prisoners, because I know for an absolute fact YOU will make an exception for them, saying they shouldn't be treated as respectfully as you demand I treat you.

  • @deskset24 how bloody arrogant of you!!

    How the fk do you "know for an absolute fact" ANYTHING about me??

    I said "clearly I am talking about 'we' the human race.. not about individuals (whether prisoners, poets or priests)" but you choose to ignore that?

    I have NO problem with allowing 'prisoners' rights & in many cases that means de-criminalising what got them into jail in the first place & then giving them a 'pardon' (as in the case with the diabolical drug laws)

    I think you need to calm down!

  • @deskset24

    My point about the Left/Right paradigm (which you SAID you agreed with) was that its contradictory of you to say you 'agree' & then bang on about "leftwingers" & "rightwingers".

    The 'prisoner' issue is a pure straw man argument & nothing to do with what I was talking about.

    As for "they all fight for a cause"... that really IS bullshit! So the psychopathic murderers & child rapists have a 'cause' that demands my 'respect' eh?? Do me a favour!

    Try using 'logic' yourself.

  • @ejbh3160 That's YOUR opinion that they are psychopathic murderers and child rapists. It MAY not be THEIRS. You can't preach this BULLSHIT about "let's all come together" and then SHOVE your opinion on others. I suggest you get RID of this bullshit and let OBJECTIVE MATHEMATICIANS determine cause and effect. In that case, I would put 99% of the world's population into prison for the crime of overpopulating the planet, for needlessly eating meat, for voting for Demopubs...

  • @ejbh3160 So don't go telling me to respect the opinions of Wall Street bankers and overpaid CEOs OR THE SHITHEADS WHO VOTE FOR THEM! (i.e. anyone who votes Republicrat)

    Yes. In absolute fact, in rational game theory, in reality: yes, even who you call a "child rapist" fights for a cause, just as a Wall Street banker fights for THEIR cause, or a US soldier or a Taliban soldier. Tough shit if that bothers you. But, that's because your mind is too weak and stupid to grasp it.

  • @deskset24 Have you tried anger management.. might help.

    Perhaps you can tell us what "cause" a child rapist fights for? (actually don't bother.. you'll only come out with more meaningless drivel) & more to the point why I should 'respect' the 'cause' the child rapist fights for (if you can think of one). I never suggested you 'respect' Wall St banksters either (yet another straw man argument)

    What 'bothers' me is your total lack of a coherent argument or any semblence of 'logic'..

    we're done!

  • @ejbh3160 YOU'RE the angry one, if everyone whom you feel should be sent to prison gets even the LEAST bit of sympathy from someone with a different political prison. Child rapists and Wall Street Bankers both fight for the cause of being free.

    Obviously, you have never done a hard day of work in your life, because you don't have the brains to comprehend that.

  • @ejbh3160 Yes, you HAVE suggested I respect Wall Street bankers, because if you don't support outlawing anyone being paid more than $100,000/year, then you are on THEIR side. If you don't support blowing the brains out of CEOs being given millions in bonuses, then you are on THEIR side, just like YOU think that, just because I don't think a child rapist should be forced into prison as long as YOU think they should, that must mean I support raping children. You don't know what logic is.

  • Yeah - in this Jay Lehr's mind, bats ride monkeys through Never Neverland and harness energy by getting zebras and flying unicorns to mate. Heartland Institute = terrorist criminal anti-American anti-freedom organization.

  • And still dick heads here argue over the meaning of the word 'ever' as if they are clever... Is this knuclehead central?

  • @bernzeppi Knucklehead central.  Hm, that pretty much describes it. :-)

  • Last few weeks, coldest day on record in Sydney, hottest day on record in NY and London... Firestorms in Russia, biggest floods on record in Asia ( the billions of tons of water got into the sky by heat.

  • Hey, Peter. Still addicted to your channel. Loving every video. Wanted to remind you about panning your narration to the center. Should make your voice pop out a bit more, too. Cheers, and keep up the fantastic work.

  • @554466551

    sorry, rushing on this one.

    will keep trying to improve.

  • Definition of the word 'ever:' at all times. Do a google search. The earth existed prior to 50 years ago; therefore, the word 'ever' is not appropriate. 'some other forcing'? and what would that be, caveman farts?

  • @Uncle5cary The hottest temps "ever" would have been shortly after the big bang. The hottest temps "ever" on earth would have been during the early formation of the planet. I think most people have enough basic common sense to know those are not important events relative to anthropogenic climate change.

  • 4:40 "Hottest summer EVER" What does that mean? The hottest summer since the earth cooled 4 billion years ago? The hottest summer since pangea broke up 100 million years ago? The hottest summer since the end of the last ice age 10 000 years ago? The thermometer wasn't invented until 200 years ago. Accurate recording did not begin until WW2.