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  • proping up the women on their news channel....skirts and legs....its sad........

  • awfull how this is allowed on a news channel well it is fox news.

  • foxnews has a ton of conservatives but they always put stupid pointless crap like this on which i dont get why? Aren't Conservatives uptight? Why show this then?

  • @Clown4740 To explain this thoroughly will take hours, or even days. I will, however, sum up this phenomena in only two words: Sexual. Repression.

  • @AngryKid2008 exactly

  • @Clown4740 sexually repressed and sexist, viewing women as objects

  • Mediamatters wouldn't exist without fox news!

    Most left wing youtube channels should be thanking Fox News for keeping them employed, they talk about Fox 80%+ of the time.

  • Thanks, MediaMatters!

    I had no idea what I was missing! I'll tune into Fox more often now!

  • @Bardlett which part or you calling fantasy scientist believing in god or the humans being the dominate species

  • Damn, I should really start watching Fox News. I found it hilarious when they ran the same loop of the spring break bikini clad college girls while talking about drug cartel violence. LOL

  • @SgtSanchez believing in god isn't just a right wing belief. I am liberal and I believe and if you want to bring science into a majority of scientist believe in him too. And before you say believing in god isn't logical neither is the fact that humans are the dominate species

  • @bigkon420 I agree with your first sentence, but after that you go into a weird fantasy land where facts don't exist.

  • LOL. They've got your attention.

  • You are absolutely correct, Fox & Friends are a joke and are shit....LOL!

  • The look on Gretchen Carlson's face at 0:17 is priceless. Truth of the matter is, FNC is Republican Conservative Operation, and as we all know most repub men believe the only thing women are good for are making babies and sandwiches.

  • @MrROLLO70 It was clearly a joke.

  • @parish32 Clearly huh! Gretchen must have not received the memo in advance, hence that's why she didn't laugh.

  • @MrROLLO70 If you'd ever watched their show even a few times a week, you'd realize that they make jokes and shit.. Fuck, if you watched this video you'd realize that. LOL.. Plus, I mean, seriously, it would be anything but? LOL. Tells me more about you than it does about him.

  • addressing the issue about spring break. If you are worried about sending your kids somewhere, look at some statistics. If these summer resorts have a violent history dont send them there. On the other hand, if there's been no reports of violence in that area for a long time you can assume that your kids are gonna be just as fine there as they would have been home...

  • Marc Rudov hit the nail on the head tho...

  • Jesus...

  • Sex sells and the "masses" will always eat it up. Unfortunately. Education is the only answer. We should take $50-$100 Billion from the defense budget and setup a fund to make college free for those who cannot afford it. Everybody bitches about how expensive Healthcare is going to be over 10 years ($1 tril) & yet with our Military Budget, Iraq & Afghanistan we spend $500Bil / year. Funny isn't it? Eisenhower warned us... and we still don't see it.

  • LOL

  • wait... since when is calling women good looking sexist?

  • @toastertown6 if that is all you can say about women, it is

  • @eugeneonegin09 So if in this video they had called some women ugly you would have found no sexism in it?

  • @toastertown6 1. who is they? 2.it would be inappropriate.

  • @eugeneonegin09 In you mind if Fox calls a woman good looking they're sexist and if they call a woman ugly its inappropriate?

  • @toastertown6 either way,it's inappropriate

  • @toastertown6 Bringing up a woman's looks when they are completely irrelevant to the subject matter is sexist. Same applies when speaking about men. Either way, you're suggesting that their appearance is what matters, reducing them to eye candy.

  • im a chick and i hate fox,but save 1 or 2 things in that video,thats not sexism at all,its shit like this that make women look overly sensitive and not to be taken seriously,way to go A holes.

  • ... and some of these things are said to create controversy through comedy - and it worked. LOL.. Media Matters is a fucking tool. LOL

  • Fox "News": Is there anything worse?

  • Me: That chick is fuckin' hot, bro.

    You: You're a sexist.

    ...cause that makes sense. :/

  • @parish32 It is sexist. How would you like to be viewed as an object or a piece of meat?

    I'm not an extreme feminist, I just find it so derogatory when guys call me "dat piece of ass" and other terms that make me seem like an object that can be manipulated or subdued. It's not fair.

  • @amgx9 LOL. You're a fucking tool. "She's hot" does not equal "she's a piece of meat." LOL.. "Piece of ass" is a slang term. It's not derogatory. LOL. Over here in Pa, chick use that term. Also, no one in this video used that term... so what are you even talking about? LOL... Is it sexists if I were to say that you are beautiful? Then how is it sexist to say that you are hot? Sexist is a term, mindset or any thing else that is a generalization of an unequal perception to either male or female...

  • @parish32 then i'm sure you would feel very comfortable if several WOMEN referred to you as THAT PIECE OF ASS????

  • @eugeneonegin09 Why not? LOL

  • @parish32 we're not talking about comedy central, we are talking about news, a very SERIOUS BUSINESS. and unless women are able to mock,hoot,and ridicule men in their undies(while still inappropriate,would level the sexist playing field)women are their to do a job and should look AND ACT as professional as their male counterpart.

  • @eugeneonegin09 LOL "Why so serious?" "It's serious business, bro!" LOL.. "Get back in the kitchen!" Hahaha

  • @amgx9 lol. Those are two COMPLETELY different things. I guess you're dumb as a piece of meat.

  • "how about that for an excuse to show these pictures" LMAO

    They're so powerful they're not even going to deny how shallow they are!

  • Family values.

  • There is a reason FOX is # 1

  • @hanksnow82 yes.....softcore porn

  • @eugeneonegin09 You think that's soft core porn ? What menonite community do you belong to?

  • @hanksnow82, none. but there is news. and there is T&A entertainment masquerading as news. i want news.and i want journalists and commentators to look and be PROFESSIONAL

  • @eugeneonegin09 Welcome to America 

  • Fox News is the shit.

    Thanks for reinforcing my opinion, MM.

  • Of course, if you are going to force women to carry the children of rapists, you must portray them as sub human.

  • @drhu you seem to be under the mistaken idea that the muslim brotherhood and their supporters make up a large majority of the egyptian voting population when even when it wasn't illegal to belong to that group it still only had a small bloc of voters

  • @parish32 They are getting really frantic here this week about finding just anything and everything to make a video about. Not sure what it's all about. Maybe somebody made a really wild batch of brownies for them.

  • no used a satellite phone

  • @bigkon420 Cool, I hope he stays safe.

  • Top House Dem Steny Hoyer Meets With Muslim Brotherhood Leaders in Cairo

  • @hydin1 SO?????

  • @hydin1 Haven't you seen the photos of Dumbya making out with a Saudi king?

  • @Makaeff He was just as bad, your point is.

  • actually yes i do the reason i hadn't been commenting on videos for the past week i had to make sure my ex step father was okay. he is in egypt and unlike you i know that a little bit under half of egypt's population is christian but then again i don't have to be told shit to believe i actually look shit up before i spout off at the mouth

  • @bigkon420 Hey if your going to respond to me it helps if you hit reply. Did you fly there? I hope your father in law is well. Don't claim authority because you married in, and we will both see who is correct.

  • you did have to pull (being a asshole about it)

  • @hydin1 you do know that somebody flagged your last comment as spam before i had a chance to read it

  • @bigkon420 I was just saying hey.

  • @hydin1 do you actually know a damn thing about egypt or for that matter anybody in egypt that's not american

  • @bigkon420 Do you? I do know about fanatics. Human nature isn't so complex, as it relates to group think and religious fervor. What do you think is going to happen?

  • @eugeneonegin he is one of those conservatives that throw away his principles when he thinks it's necessary

  • @hydin1 sup dickwad

  • WaPo Praises Brave Anti-American Socialist Activist at Cairo Protests

  • @hydin1 Anti-Mubarak, pro democracy protesters. No American flags are being burned.

    If you'd quit watching Fox you'd be informed. Instead you make a silly fool of yourself.

  • You want to talk about mom caves while the world burns. When Israel has no choice they will start a world war, you can be proud.

  • In the United States, Bob Avakian’s Revolutionary Communist Party USA also called for action: “A challenge has been issued by the courageous youth of Egypt. Everyone who wants to see another way brought forward in this world of oppression is called upon to support them politically,” read the Revolution — the official publication of the Revolutionary Communist Party.

  • @hydin1 What you see in Egypt is a reflection of what the left would love. Just an extension of the sixties to them.

  • @drhu They dont have a clue, of what they beg for.

  • @hydin1 For somereason this topic is important...damn if I can figure out why. And now this atheist is trying to bait me. It's fun.

  • @drhu have fun.

  • @hydin1 I will try. They are getting really frantic. Somethings up.

  • @drhu We see them for what they are, their ability to hide is gone.

  • @hydin1 and just what are they. using your logic, we should have remained loyal to britain. there shouldn't have been a revolutionary war.

  • @eugeneonegin09 Thats quite a leap. I hope you actually understand the difference, because if not I dont have the time. If they want to use our constitution I'm all for it. You want nuclear war in the middle east? Thats what you are saying.

  • @hydin1.there is NO DIFFERENCE.american colonists wanted independence from a british monarch, and egyptians want freedom from a 30 year tyrant who ironically has gotten aid from the u.s. and elsewhere.

  • @drhu What they are going to get is a life style far below what they have now.

  • @hydin1 The think they are immune . In Egypt right now they are maiming people they know are Americans.

  • @drhu This is what I think happened. The socialists believed they could destabilize the Egyptian regime and then gain control, but they lack an understanding of the fanatical religious beliefs that Muslims hold, which is rather ironic if you ask me. It will spiral out of their control, and an Islamic state will be born. Israel will not be eliminated without a fight, and the world will tremble. This is as big as it gets, god help us all.

  • @hydin1 Reminds me quite a bit of Iran in the 70's. But see these guys think the Muslim Extremists are the good guys. Not realizing they will also be beheaded along with us evil conservatives.

    I was once told that I was being silly and that only about 10% of the Muslim population was extremist and dangerous.

    When you look at it that's a really large group of people. You don't just dismiss that. Then there's the whole idea that there would not be any extremists if it weren't for us.

  • @hydin1 who are you to say, or choose for them.

  • @eugeneonegin09 It will effect me. I can have my say, would you like the Christian fundamentalists ruling our country if the majority thinks its OK. I thought not, and me either. You would trade a stable state, even as repressive as it is for a fascist state? You are watching the beginning of a world war. Israel will use nuclear weapons in its defense.

  • @hydin1 the middle east is for middle easterners to decide. not westerners....unless you support colonialism or imperialism???

  • The socialist and Communist movements are ecstatic with jubilance as they see the fall of Mubarak as the fall of the United States and their opportunity for revolutionary change here in America and across the world.

  • @hydin1 I am sure MM is jubilant as Fox reporters have been beaten and injured.

  • Obama issues global warming rules in January, gives GE an exemption in February

    Egypt solidarity protest in front of the White House In conjunction with ANSWER, demonstrations were also attended by the Party for Socialism and Liberation, a Trotskyite-Maoist political party that has come to replace the Communist Party USA.

  • @hydin1 egypt should be for the egyptians and whatever political party THEY WANT......not the west to decide

  • @eugeneonegin09 Germans voted in Hitler, Germany was for Germans whatever political party THEY WANT, right.

  • @hydin1, hitler was APPOINTED by hindenburg. nor were the nazis elected. hindenburg thought he could CONTROL hitler.the nazi party actually lost seats in 32 to the social democrats,the communists, and other conservative blocs.

  • @SgtSanchez not everything i this world is guided by logic the fact that people in this country that consider themselves christian basically say fuck the poor is illogical. the fact that people think this country in it's current form is illogica. the fact that they have people who think corporations should have the same rights as people is illogical. i could go on but what would be the point

  • You're describing hypocrisy, not illogical instances within the realm of physical laws.

  • @bigkon420 When your eating roaches you'll remember this post, and I dont mean your butts either.

  • If they have have Sarah Palin naked, I will watch.

  • nice fucking titties! Fuck the haters!

  • Not a fan of Fox News, but you could probably make this case for most networks if you took the energy to sort through their footage too.

  • Fox News is about family values. You guys need to stop pointing these things out, you're going to taint their image, and that's not fair.

  • Pablum for the masses. Typical Fixed "news."

  • Any political philosophy or ideology advocating holding the production of resources collectively; Any political social system that implements a communist political philosophy; The international socialist society where classes and the state no longer exist

    Bingo! The Trifecta.

    There are in order socialism, Marxism and communism. It all goes left.

  • the economic and political theories of Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels that hold that human actions and institutions are economically determined and that class struggle is needed to create historical change and that capitalism will ultimately be superseded by communism

    Yep...that too.

  • a theory or system of social organization that advocates the vesting of the ownership and control of the means of production and distribution, of capital, land, etc., in the community as a whole.

    2.

    procedure or practice in accordance with this theory.

    3.

    (in Marxist theory) the stage following capitalism in the transition of a society to communism, characterized by the imperfect implementation of collectivist principles.

    Yep the left has this covered. Obama snatched up Gm right off.

  • Nope....no violence on the left...

    eyeblast(dot)tv/public/checker­(dot)aspx?v=hdqG8znz8z

  • do trolls not realize that the more they comment, the more popular the video gets, and the more likely it will be seen by more people?

  • @Usmaman07 Yeah there's like millions watching right? Mostly this is the left of the left here.

  • Hypocrisy and sexism are not the worst of Fox "News"'s sins. Their worst sins are that they lie constantly and they defend torture and corruption and attack reform and foment violence.

    The hypocrisy -here- is that they:

    1. falsely imply that sex and the human body are sinful and they tut tut about it regularly (Bill O'Reilly) . . .

    2. and then they show -extended- clips of "exotic dancers" dancing around stripper poles.

    Fox "News" IS morally bankrupt.

    And self-deluding.

  • 2:46 look at those drug cartels

  • Does anyone find it ironic that this video has more views than many of their other videos?

  • TRUE AMERICANS WATCH FOX AND WE LOVE SEXISM AND SCANTILY CLAD WOMEN. FAGS WATCH MSNBC TO WATCH RACHAEL MADCOW.

  • @TheDEMSUCK You are saying a man has to be gay in order to respect women and consider them intellectually capable?

    Wow... with more women attending and graduating college now than men, I guess that spells the total end to the human race.

  • @TheHobgoblyn Thats a funny statement considering how the left and the media ATTACK Sarah Palin and they even ATTACKED Hillary clinton when she was running for president. Both were treated worse that any male candidate. You also forgot another fact nobody talks about. Women own more property than men in the US.

  • @TheDEMSUCK The attacks on Hillary Clinton were primarily from the Republicans. Half of the liberals voted for her to be the candidate and many who didn't chose not to do so because of how little she accomplished as first lady or realized just how much garbage would be dumped on her to prevent her from winning in the general election..

    And the dislike of Palin has much to do with lack of lintellect. She's every bit disconnected from reality as Glenn Beck. Bachman is in the same camp.

  • @TheHobgoblyn So people didn't vote for Hillary because they knew she would be attacked in the media? Beck,Palin and Bachman are diconnected from reality? WOW maybe it's you people in California that are disconnected and laughed at. Now go pick up your medical Mary Jane.

  • @TheDEMSUCK , true americans RESPECT WOMEN.WHITE TRASH WATCH BIMBOS ON FOX

  • @eugeneonegin09 Lets see,If you work at FOX you are a Bimbo? Pretty good job calling everybody a sexist and being sexist in the same sentence.

  • @eugeneonegin09 Bimbos? You gotta problem with hot chicks? Come on, dude!  You gotta stay away from those salt peter pills!!

  • @electangorocks not pretending to be news commentators i don't. i prefer women in suits and looking polished and PROFESSIONAL

  • @eugeneonegin09

    They're not pretending to be news commentators. They are news commentators. And they are good looking so naturally the sexism of the dumb blond stereotype comes into play.  Part of the reason nobody's watching Rachel Maddow is not many men or women want to watch women who look like men.

  • You stay classy Fox :-(

  • NO MOM I'M WATCHING THE NEWS

  • ROFLMAO! "These photos are a result of my research..."

    Well I guess he was doing most of his 'research' online!

  • there are much better things to focus your energy on, i can see you going after the sexist stuff. but i can also see why you made this one.

  • Fox: Tabloid news aiming at gun loving bigoted and poorly educated hicks.

  • Every time I see one of the Fox News bimbos, I always think of Dick Cheney standing right next to me, elbowing me in the ribs, panting and grunting, "Look at the gams on her! Wowie! It's she a hot little number? Yeah, suddenly neocon bullshit seems a little more palatable, doesn't it? I mean, come on! Look at those tits! And she's on OUR SIDE! HA HA!"

  • Geez guys this is far and away the most ridiculous thing you have done yet.

  • mediamatters: the home of ugly, bitter man-hating rug-munchers with a chip on their shoulder against hot young women.

  • @thorkyll =some sleazy trailerparker who has no respect for women

  • Come on. This is kid-glove stuff.

    Pull out the stops and go for their racism.

  • you just got to laugh at the thought of all the old fat guys over 50 watching fox news  who stop cleaning their guns and start rubbing something else...lol

  • So I suppose tomorrow Media Matters will come out with a video showing clips from popular music videos portraying women as sex-crazed sluts. Then the next day they'll have a bunch of clips strewn together from all the movies that do the same. Then they'll send a reporter to any grocery store in the united states to take pictures of the magazines on display in front of every cash register.

  • And what we have here is a scantily-clad strawman.

  • @SgtSanchez

    I'm not oversimplifying or misrepresenting their point, I guess I simply don't understand the point MM is trying to make with this video. It relies on the premise that scantily clad women and humorous "sexist" comments are bad. If this is some kind of principle they uphold they shouldn't only be attacking Fox News.

  • @TheMusicBucket

    I'm sure they DO hate other sexist media (though I don't speak for them), but MM is an unabashedly liberal organisation, and right now their overriding prerogative is to expose FOX News as a sham (and I do believe it's pretty clear, in this video). It's important to make note of other business who objectify women (e.g. PETA, or any of the things you mentioned), but it's ultimately MM's choice as to which persons they would like to pursue. Your comment was still a strawman.

  • @SgtSanchez

    And substituting video clips with an implied negative connotation to undermine an entire organization isn't? They have the right to pursue whatever they want. I just think it's disingenuous to go after a few segments of politically incorrect comments when there are far worse examples out there.

  • They do go after those "far-worse" examples, as well, but I really have to take issue with this 'small potatoes' compartmentalising of the sexism expressed here. They aren't making comments that are just politically incorrect, they're making it politically correct to say these comments. This is a major news organisation, which publishes to millions of people. Constant exposure to sexism, even when it's small, IS a threat. Case in point: this whole argument. The number of ignorant will only grow.

  • @SgtSanchez A sham what? Because the reported on this? Here we go again with class stereotyping of these folks and"if your such "good" people should you even be talking about this"? This is such a non issue I can only imagine there was a tie limit imposed on Soros money and they are frantically trying to use it up.

    First we had a months old issue with the Bill Sammon thing and now this. It's that or hysteria.

  • Using women (i.e. objectifying women) to sell your story is the problem. "Mom caves" is also pretty sexist, and the nonchalant manner in which Steve Ducey made his remarks, more or less NORMALISING the issue, are the problem. I don't know what you're talking about, to be honest. Bill O'Reilly's scaremongering is a separate problem.

  • @TheMusicBucket I have yet to figure out what the point is to all this. Like the left gives a flaming fig about morality.

  • The difference between the right's concept of morality and the left's is that the left takes into account reason, science, and logic, while the right decides to follow the teachings of some vapid sycophant in the sky, who supposedly killed 2 million people, not including those who died during His all-consuming flood (while His nemesis, Lucifer, I might add, killed a whopping TEN people!). Oh yeah, and He damns everyone who doesn't agree with Him to eternal suffering. What a great role model!

  • @SgtSanchez The left has been willingly lied to about some things...climate change not the least.

    It's almost hilarious to be lectured on morality by one who appears to be atheist. So apparently this whole MM clip is snark. In this day and age it's a little above the top to get all worked up about. Fortunately no one pays much attention to MM.

  • "Some things," also known as "climate change," is a real issue, but I think I got more of a kick out of the "willingly lied TO" (emphasis: mine) bit. And if you need a God (who, like I previously stated, killed MILLIONS OF PEOPLE, and created those people SIMPLY TO WORHSHIP HIMSELF) to tell you what's right and wrong, you're absolutely fucking stupid, and belong in a mental facility. I think it's pretty easy to figure out why stealing, lying, killing, etc. are bad things using, you know, logic.

  • @SgtSanchez I don't NEED one but there is a thing called common sense. Your words help illustrate the absolute intolerance of the left. That, of course, is what you accuse the right of.

    I could care less what you think of it but faith is not stupidity.

  • You COULD care less? Noted.

    It's funny, though, that when I call the Judeo-Christian God out on his genocide, you say it's intolerance, but when people say Mohammed was a paedophile, murderer, thief, etc., it's just an honest case against him.

    I don't fancy people who worship Stalin, Mao, Hitler, Pol Pot, etc., why should I just be peachy-keen about someone worshipping a made-up genocidal maniac? And, you know, it's not often that I engage so aggressively on a topic like this. (tbc)

  • I believe people were simply led astray, and I don't blame them for that. It's not easy to overcome indoctrination. With my relations in person, I am often much more subtle, and lead people to their own conclusions. Of course, the horse is not always very thirsty.

    With you, however, "I could care less," because you've made it pretty obvious you're not the learnin' type. Maybe in the next life, mate. Until then, cheers!

  • @SgtSanchez No it's just simply experience has taught me you are simply not going there. Because you don't want to.

  • @SgtSanchez No...you have authority issues and the one thing you don't want is a God. Pretty much the same for every atheist i have ever known and have have had atheist friends. Played golf with them.

  • @SgtSanchez You know God is a big boy...he can take care of himself. So that deal about "calling him out"? Good luck with that.

  • @SgtSanchez You have this assumption something is made-up.

    You gonna have a heckuva time proving a justifying all that. I ceased arguing with people about those things years ago.

    And "made-up" In the same paragraph with Mohammed? He made up that whole thing and look at the billions who worship HIM...not Allah...HIM! That's a cult.

  • Let's try to keep the number of comments to a minimum. No one wants to see your name pop up more than it has to, and I'm having a hard time understand which comments of yours are replying to what.

    But, anyway, on with the games! Yes, sure I've got authority issues. I believe I can govern myself without someone looming over my shoulder, why shouldn't I be able to? But is this why I reject God? No. I reject God because he is an idea that stands for genocide, eternal damnation and suffering (tbc).

  • ...among many other things. He is a jealous God and an out-right stupid God, but that's probably because someone wasn't thinking very clearly when they invented him. God, at any rate, is illogical, and all things belonging to this world, or having interaction with this world, follow the rules of logic. God cannot do something at the same time as not do something, he can't be two places at once, etc., and therefore he's not all-powerful. All forms of omniscience defy logic, i.e., are paradoxical.

  • So is your God a time-destroying, universe-rifting paradox? Or was some desert fisherman exaggerating a little, stretching his arms out many feet wider than his actual catch? I really doubt me and the devil will convince you, but we'd just like a written admission of stupidity from you, that's all. So go ahead and write your name in the cement, here. :)

    Post-Script: I lol'd at your little caveat regarding Mohammed. If I had more room, I'd make fun of you better, but, you know how things are!

  • @SgtSanchez You don't know what you think you know. But enjoy yourself.

  • @SgtSanchez Let's start with I believe in freedom of speech...much more so than you because you just attempted to limit mine.Like evry other atheist you regard God in human terms and forget that he is not...like Mohammed. In other words God lives outside this sphere and his logic is his own. If you can't wrap your mind around that I'm sorry. It does not mean He does not exist.

    By the way...I ain't going anywhere.

  • @drhu They should be real happy here because Fox reporters were beaten and hospitalized in Egypt. That's one of their greatest wishes.

  • @drhu They support fascists, because its the same ideology. socialism=fascism=communism.

  • Freedom of speech is an atheist's greatest ally. Christians provide GREAT arguments against themselves.

    And, no. Simply, no. God can exist within his own sphere of logic (there are other universes hypothesised with different sets of logic, this I can grant you!), but he cannot interact with this or any other universe without creating some unimaginable rift in it. Not much of a God, then, eh?

    And the only reason you're unmoving is, instead of signing in the cement, you've put your feet in it!

  • @SgtSanchez If you created a universe then you can do what you want in it. You are two dimensional.

  • I'm not saying something couldn't have CREATED the universe, that question is still up for debate. However, it has either simply started a chain reaction, one with a wonderfully chaotic and lucky (for us) butterfly effect, and by no merit of his own were we created, or everything was predestined from the start. The former, making him much less of a God, by definition, and the latter, being completely antithetical to Christianity (save for those wacky Calvanists and other sects).

  • So which way would you have it, then? And no, just because it could have created the universe does not mean it could do whatever it wanted with it, mostly because it created this universe with a very strict set of rules that we, I repeat, call logic.

  • @SgtSanchez Do you understand the concept of sovereign? Because that's what it's all about.

  • @drhu yes. but we're just 1 country among many countries

  • Running on empty, there? God isn't a sovereign because God, again, cannot defy logic without tearing the universe apart. And what makes your God so much better than any other theory, if logic can be cast aside? There is an infinite number of possibilities, and the only reason you think yours has any validity is because some dick wrote a book? The Force makes just as much sense, really, and that theory has a whole series of movies behind it! Much more interesting than beardy-floaty man, imo.

  • @SgtSanchez No...you just will not see the fact that if there is a God and he IS sovereign then he created the logic and knows what he is doing.

    I have a friend who contracted brain cancer. Three times the doctors told him to go home and get his affairs in order. Three times it was prayed out of him and since the last time almost ten years ago it has remained gone.

    The last time they were SURE he was going to die of it. He's still here.

  • @SgtSanchez It's ok...you will grow up someday and have a i coulda had a v8 moment with it and all will be well. Once you figure out you can't ascribe human actions to him it's all quite simple.