Jean Renoir is great, he is a genious and he speaks very well. I agree with him: the conflict between technology and art is a good analysis about cinema and its future. Beautiful can't be reproduced, Mr. WalterLiddy.
It's interesting, but he confuses what HE finds beautiful with what is beautiful. He asks why primitive art is always beautiful. It isn't. But he finds it so because he admires primitive qualities in art. It's a cyclical effect.
Ce type est impressionnant. Il a prédit l'avenir à la perfection. Il n'y a qu'à voir Avatar... De la quasi perfection visuelle, une impression d'entrer dans le film mais... Finalement, le scénar' est banal à mourir et le charme manque cruellement!
Alala ce Jean Renoir est bien le fils de son père, il a vraiment tout compris!
Yes! Today many films are so perfect & my intuition feels something is amiss. Like mass production from a factory (the boring old hollywood idea). But something a little out of focus, grainy, different speaks of vitality! Perfect films -off to h.wood I say! Imperfect films- shaky tripod, in-experienced filmmaker perhaps...those quirky ideas stay in ones mind!
I'm wondering and I might be wrong, but is Renoir saying that because tapestries became more advanced in how they depicted reality, they ultimately weren't as good as the 'primitive' ones?
In other words, does he believe that it is better to depict reality in a relatively primitive way?
No, because with the example of Lurçat, he says that when artists try to depict reality in a primitive way their art becomes artificial and he says that it is something tragic. He adds that to obtain a beautiful work of art an artist must be talented enough to overcome technique, in other words he must be a genius.
Matt: I thought he said when the techniques became perfected, comparing advances in tapestry making with widescreen and color films, that it became artificial?
NGS:For me, when he uses the word artificial, he only wants to say that it is too late to turn back the clock. Mathilde only used primitive techniques in trapestry making because she didn't have any other choice, so it wasn't artificial but necessary. Otherwise, when he talks about a very high-tech cinema where it seems like you are in a real forest, he wants to tell artists that if they use new techniques in order to imitate nature then it is no longer art except if they are genius.
Matt: I understand what you're saying, I think that's how alot of people first reacted when photography first came around. They said it wasn't art 'cause it was just capturing things as they were.
If I may ask a personal question, do you think older films are more interesting to look at than modern ones?
NGS:I don't really understand what you mean by "more interesting" but I don't think that old movies are more valuable than modern ones. I think that today, film directors have to live with their time to surprise us. When a director uses old recipes he can make a good movie but it will never be a work of art. He must create something. Renoir, Spielberg, Almodovar... encountered this problem. So for me, it is not a matter of time, every epoch has its own masterpieces.
Matt: Well, I probably could've worded that better. I rather meant that since Renoir seemed to prefer the way films were made before, I just wanted your opinion.
No, I think it is more because of my english! By the way, I don't really understand the last question either, (the "since" before Renoir upsets me!) I'm so sorry. Sorry because I can't answer you and sorry because I should speak a better english ;)!
Matt: You don't have to apologize. To be honest, I didn't know you were French until I saw your channel. ;)
Your English is very good considering it's not your first language, I can't imagine how many times I've seen people with god-awful English, who were American, British, Australian, and so on.
Anyway, I take it you're a bit of a film buff then? ;)
NGS: Well, thank you! Your english is not bad either ;-)!!! Kidding aside, yes, I really like movies, all kind of movies but as you may have noticed, my favorite film director is François Truffaut. But I think you like movies more than me because I don't think I would watch Renoir's videos if I were American!
No, I think it is more because of my english! By the way, I don't really understand the last question either, (the "since" before Renoir upsets me!) I'm so sorry. Sorry because I can't answer you and sorry because I should speak a better english ;)!
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992105 6 months ago
Jean Renoir is great, he is a genious and he speaks very well. I agree with him: the conflict between technology and art is a good analysis about cinema and its future. Beautiful can't be reproduced, Mr. WalterLiddy.
aaoiue 8 months ago
It's interesting, but he confuses what HE finds beautiful with what is beautiful. He asks why primitive art is always beautiful. It isn't. But he finds it so because he admires primitive qualities in art. It's a cyclical effect.
WalterLiddy 9 months ago
u can't even spell it gypsy guess u lost your magic! Any idiot who knows film can see that Renoir was great,for me the greatest!
gratefultiger 11 months ago
Overated.
magicgypsy 1 year ago
@magicgypsy Yes, you definitely overrate your penis size but what does it have to do with Renoir?
lickthoseboobs 6 months ago
The greatest director of all time - everyone from Orson Welles to David Thomson agrees with that judgment.
HarveyDentLives 1 year ago
Brilliant man...
PtAltmVansanTarr 1 year ago
Ce type est impressionnant. Il a prédit l'avenir à la perfection. Il n'y a qu'à voir Avatar... De la quasi perfection visuelle, une impression d'entrer dans le film mais... Finalement, le scénar' est banal à mourir et le charme manque cruellement!
Alala ce Jean Renoir est bien le fils de son père, il a vraiment tout compris!
muyaa 1 year ago 2
A lot directors are quite dull. But I could listen to this guy all day, really knows what's he's doing.
aCidShred 2 years ago 4
Great and very interesting!
Thank you!
AnneFrederick7 2 years ago
Yes! Today many films are so perfect & my intuition feels something is amiss. Like mass production from a factory (the boring old hollywood idea). But something a little out of focus, grainy, different speaks of vitality! Perfect films -off to h.wood I say! Imperfect films- shaky tripod, in-experienced filmmaker perhaps...those quirky ideas stay in ones mind!
avisualfeel 2 years ago
Merci pour ce document incroyable.
sammyll08 2 years ago 4
I'm wondering and I might be wrong, but is Renoir saying that because tapestries became more advanced in how they depicted reality, they ultimately weren't as good as the 'primitive' ones?
In other words, does he believe that it is better to depict reality in a relatively primitive way?
NGS712 3 years ago
No, because with the example of Lurçat, he says that when artists try to depict reality in a primitive way their art becomes artificial and he says that it is something tragic. He adds that to obtain a beautiful work of art an artist must be talented enough to overcome technique, in other words he must be a genius.
MattTruffaut 3 years ago
Matt: I thought he said when the techniques became perfected, comparing advances in tapestry making with widescreen and color films, that it became artificial?
NGS712 3 years ago
NGS:For me, when he uses the word artificial, he only wants to say that it is too late to turn back the clock. Mathilde only used primitive techniques in trapestry making because she didn't have any other choice, so it wasn't artificial but necessary. Otherwise, when he talks about a very high-tech cinema where it seems like you are in a real forest, he wants to tell artists that if they use new techniques in order to imitate nature then it is no longer art except if they are genius.
MattTruffaut 3 years ago
Matt: I understand what you're saying, I think that's how alot of people first reacted when photography first came around. They said it wasn't art 'cause it was just capturing things as they were.
If I may ask a personal question, do you think older films are more interesting to look at than modern ones?
NGS712 3 years ago
NGS:I don't really understand what you mean by "more interesting" but I don't think that old movies are more valuable than modern ones. I think that today, film directors have to live with their time to surprise us. When a director uses old recipes he can make a good movie but it will never be a work of art. He must create something. Renoir, Spielberg, Almodovar... encountered this problem. So for me, it is not a matter of time, every epoch has its own masterpieces.
MattTruffaut 3 years ago
Matt: Well, I probably could've worded that better. I rather meant that since Renoir seemed to prefer the way films were made before, I just wanted your opinion.
NGS712 3 years ago
No, I think it is more because of my english! By the way, I don't really understand the last question either, (the "since" before Renoir upsets me!) I'm so sorry. Sorry because I can't answer you and sorry because I should speak a better english ;)!
MattTruffaut 3 years ago
Matt: You don't have to apologize. To be honest, I didn't know you were French until I saw your channel. ;)
Your English is very good considering it's not your first language, I can't imagine how many times I've seen people with god-awful English, who were American, British, Australian, and so on.
Anyway, I take it you're a bit of a film buff then? ;)
NGS712 3 years ago
NGS: Well, thank you! Your english is not bad either ;-)!!! Kidding aside, yes, I really like movies, all kind of movies but as you may have noticed, my favorite film director is François Truffaut. But I think you like movies more than me because I don't think I would watch Renoir's videos if I were American!
MattTruffaut 3 years ago
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No, I think it is more because of my english! By the way, I don't really understand the last question either, (the "since" before Renoir upsets me!) I'm so sorry. Sorry because I can't answer you and sorry because I should speak a better english ;)!
MattTruffaut 3 years ago
Happy 114th birthday Jean Renoir!
tefisher1984 3 years ago
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Tadek59 3 years ago
icsprks - really interesting.
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