Everything was always in the mix. African musicians used European instruments and notation to recreate African music and rhythms. Their musical forms were imitated by white musicians, and mixed with their own forms, then again imitated by black musicians. The railroad tracks were not a sound barrier. The result is one of our greatest cultural inheritances--vastly different from either European or African precedecessors
And Janis, BTW, built a monument to Big Mama Thornton.
Slavery had put once proud Africans which were often higher educated than their slave owners into misery and left them uprooted and emotionally destroyed. I really don't enjoy the blues very much b/c of this. If you look at it and see how really beautiful and noble the origins of the music are maybe you'll find an analogy for the blues: it would be like re-drawing Picasso in pure blood or embodying Auschwitz into music. At least that's how I feel.
@mdinka You are totally incorrect.1)Any slave that could read and was discovered could be punish by death.It was forbidden by law.2)The Blues height was the beginning origins of ALL American music which has evolved into different forms around the world today.Before there was Jazz,Country,Rock or Pop,there was the Blues.The Blues gave the newly freed blacks the power to communicate the miserable conditions that blacks lived in the South after slavery.They could not be so frank around the whites.
@westendatl - for the sake of argument, country music has roots in English and Celtic folk music. Classical European musical structures and techniques are evident in many American music genres like metal and shred guitar. Everything can be in the mix these days. A lot of early rock came straight from 12 bar blues but it's extremely simplistic and inaccurate to say that the blues has led to everything else. That said, I love listening to Ma Rainey. It's honest and beautiful music.
@mdinka - wtf are you talking about?lol!. You dont like blues music because they tried to create something for themselves due to them being persecuted? They tried to see a brighter life for themselves through music. It's beautiful because you have to think about what they are saying. It's beautiful because it's so sad that people can do that to other people. To have them sing about it, and really not get the message (til now, though obviously you STILL dont understand..)
I love the people that appreciates this kind of music, you make me feel that i´m not alone. Is so difficult to be 24 years old and share this music with somebody. People thinks that I´m crazy
@santinorxk i know what you mean! i am 20 and people around me think there's something wrong with ME, just cause I listen to the music that was happening before my time. or, just cause I listen to better music then the music those idiots listen to! I tell ya, today's mainstream sucks big time...
If you like this you might like, Jelly Roll Morton aswell?
I think that you need to be listerning to the blues for years before you come to find blues like thisI mean It's not aswell avalible as say Son House or say
Robert Johnson, Blind Lemon, Hooker,etc.
But the gems are there if you keep looking and what a great treasures, Ma Rainy, Bessie Smith and Memphis Minnie bring to the Blues.
slowtubbi can you clear up what instruments are used in this recording? because i looked up all the member of the fletcher henderson orchestra and the musicians do not match up with their instrument. For example Howard Scott plays the trumpet but you put (cn) i think that mean clarinet?? Really confused.
Does anybody agree that a white woman with coal black shoulder-length hair and green eyes sounds like a pretty description? Linda Carter and Elizabeth Taylor fit this description. Both were very pretty women when younger. Do you all like this African-American poem I made up: black man, black hat, black car, black-haired white girl, black pants, black eye, black taco. What do you like about it the most? What do you hate about it the most? Please comment.
Well, it's obvious where Charley Patton got the phrasing (and some of the lyrics) for "Tom Rushen Blues" and "High Sheriff Blues", isn't it? Fantastic song! Thanks for posting.
this sounds way more sadder than the other. maybe because its the oldest and purest form of blues. it really sounds way more sadder than BB king, or the other guys. maybe its her vocals, its really got that feeling like a mourning or wailing.
I love her. Janis Joplin was carrying on the tradition of Bessie Smith who was carrying on the tradition of Ma Rainey. I love all of them, they were amazing women, they were strong women with strong message.
Ma Rainey is absolutely sublime. Thank you for sharing this gem. She's from my father's hometown of Columbus, Georiga. I visited her grave last summer - people still put piles of flowers and cards there almost 70 years after her death. She's timeless.
She's puttin' a hurt on me that feels so good !
hairnsap 4 weeks ago
Everything was always in the mix. African musicians used European instruments and notation to recreate African music and rhythms. Their musical forms were imitated by white musicians, and mixed with their own forms, then again imitated by black musicians. The railroad tracks were not a sound barrier. The result is one of our greatest cultural inheritances--vastly different from either European or African precedecessors
And Janis, BTW, built a monument to Big Mama Thornton.
raywest53 5 months ago
So Janis has no credibility based on the fact she was white? Racism is always ugly. No matter who it comes from.
dmhoude 6 months ago
Janis Joplin was not carrying any tradition she was copying. Let's keep it real! She had no regard for black people or their musical history.
rhondabenin56 6 months ago
Makes me want a double shot of whiskey on the rocks in a dimly lit, little hole in the wall bar somewhere in the south.
astroblak82 7 months ago
shes from my home town columbus ga one classy lady
gina8594inga 8 months ago
yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
nusdorfer 9 months ago
Yay, now I don't have to buy the album.
treygustafson 1 year ago
Slavery had put once proud Africans which were often higher educated than their slave owners into misery and left them uprooted and emotionally destroyed. I really don't enjoy the blues very much b/c of this. If you look at it and see how really beautiful and noble the origins of the music are maybe you'll find an analogy for the blues: it would be like re-drawing Picasso in pure blood or embodying Auschwitz into music. At least that's how I feel.
mdinka 1 year ago
@mdinka You are totally incorrect.1)Any slave that could read and was discovered could be punish by death.It was forbidden by law.2)The Blues height was the beginning origins of ALL American music which has evolved into different forms around the world today.Before there was Jazz,Country,Rock or Pop,there was the Blues.The Blues gave the newly freed blacks the power to communicate the miserable conditions that blacks lived in the South after slavery.They could not be so frank around the whites.
westendatl 9 months ago
@westendatl - for the sake of argument, country music has roots in English and Celtic folk music. Classical European musical structures and techniques are evident in many American music genres like metal and shred guitar. Everything can be in the mix these days. A lot of early rock came straight from 12 bar blues but it's extremely simplistic and inaccurate to say that the blues has led to everything else. That said, I love listening to Ma Rainey. It's honest and beautiful music.
oshawaxpress 5 months ago
@mdinka - wtf are you talking about?lol!. You dont like blues music because they tried to create something for themselves due to them being persecuted? They tried to see a brighter life for themselves through music. It's beautiful because you have to think about what they are saying. It's beautiful because it's so sad that people can do that to other people. To have them sing about it, and really not get the message (til now, though obviously you STILL dont understand..)
jackointhebox4 9 months ago
I grew up on this kind of musc becuase my mom loves it. I do to of course.
lizzyvance 1 year ago
Lol Charlie Patton used this arrangement in Tom Rushen Blues... I always thought it sounded strange for a country-blues song
busessuck1 1 year ago
I love the people that appreciates this kind of music, you make me feel that i´m not alone. Is so difficult to be 24 years old and share this music with somebody. People thinks that I´m crazy
santinorxk 1 year ago
@santinorxk i know what you mean! i am 20 and people around me think there's something wrong with ME, just cause I listen to the music that was happening before my time. or, just cause I listen to better music then the music those idiots listen to! I tell ya, today's mainstream sucks big time...
ChrissieBana 1 year ago
If you like this you might like, Jelly Roll Morton aswell?
I think that you need to be listerning to the blues for years before you come to find blues like thisI mean It's not aswell avalible as say Son House or say
Robert Johnson, Blind Lemon, Hooker,etc.
But the gems are there if you keep looking and what a great treasures, Ma Rainy, Bessie Smith and Memphis Minnie bring to the Blues.
Thanks for the Music
DeadyZeppelin
DreadyZeppelin 1 year ago
This would be amazing on vinyl.
Actually this probably only exists on vinyl.
I'm really getting into jazz as of late.
annayoakum 1 year ago
Damm i love the true blues! (:
obeymf 1 year ago
Wow! I love this stuff!
gomusic45693 1 year ago
12 bar blues , sound like that "dont nobody love me" dreariness....... its sad but sounds like she'll get over it when she sobers up ....lmao!!!!
jacqueslerocques 1 year ago
1st time i'm hearing this, and I love it!
zybotsu001 1 year ago
Amazing music!!!!!!!!!!! Love it! Darn talented woman!!!! Love Ma Rainey! SHE ROCKS THE BLUES! I was born in the wrong era!!!
MultiMeli123 1 year ago
maravilloso, muchas gracias.
sirjuandabicho 2 years ago 2
slowtubbi can you clear up what instruments are used in this recording? because i looked up all the member of the fletcher henderson orchestra and the musicians do not match up with their instrument. For example Howard Scott plays the trumpet but you put (cn) i think that mean clarinet?? Really confused.
mona1341 2 years ago
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Girlyduke 2 years ago
I believe that (cn) refers to the cornet and (cl) the clarinet.
Girlyduke 2 years ago
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Awesome! I love Ma Rainey. I have more of her rarest songs on my channel, if you're interested.
mursallus1 2 years ago
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Does anybody agree that a white woman with coal black shoulder-length hair and green eyes sounds like a pretty description? Linda Carter and Elizabeth Taylor fit this description. Both were very pretty women when younger. Do you all like this African-American poem I made up: black man, black hat, black car, black-haired white girl, black pants, black eye, black taco. What do you like about it the most? What do you hate about it the most? Please comment.
TaraZatara 2 years ago
oh i am so into ma rainey and her band! great stuff....somethin different, so dam fine! thanks for the upload, cheers mate! xx
cousiwa09 2 years ago
Did you ever hear the Buddy Holly recording "Mailman, Bring Me No More Blues"? Sounds like the same tune!
ZAGGLETON 2 years ago
Well, it's obvious where Charley Patton got the phrasing (and some of the lyrics) for "Tom Rushen Blues" and "High Sheriff Blues", isn't it? Fantastic song! Thanks for posting.
Pin33 2 years ago
although it's academic, she was Bessie Smith's big mama
NekoLGirl 2 years ago
i really feel this song, it's great
killershrooms 2 years ago
this sounds way more sadder than the other. maybe because its the oldest and purest form of blues. it really sounds way more sadder than BB king, or the other guys. maybe its her vocals, its really got that feeling like a mourning or wailing.
maxten 2 years ago 4
information taken directly from Wikipedia , I was wondering why it sounded familiar! lol. Brilliant music. C
littlemonster333 3 years ago
Love blues, thanks for blues-history lesson and for sharing
plattform5163 3 years ago 2
I love her. Janis Joplin was carrying on the tradition of Bessie Smith who was carrying on the tradition of Ma Rainey. I love all of them, they were amazing women, they were strong women with strong message.
pauletaloca 3 years ago 13
truth be told to that.
eemoore80 3 years ago 2
@pauletaloca: you´re right...I listen to this fantastic song and I hear Janis Joplin in it. I love ´em all, too!
Julcisko 1 year ago
GREAT TO HEAR THIS LEGEND
jt123egypte 3 years ago
Adding to my previous comment, I refer to the pianist in the photo, not the recording.
herrwilhelm 3 years ago
This pianist, Thomas A Dorsey, became the foremost gospel music composer.
herrwilhelm 3 years ago
LOVE this song Ma Rainey rules
MaireEilishinOz 3 years ago
Ma Rainey is absolutely sublime. Thank you for sharing this gem. She's from my father's hometown of Columbus, Georiga. I visited her grave last summer - people still put piles of flowers and cards there almost 70 years after her death. She's timeless.
NathanielChristopher 3 years ago 2
Someone want to tell me why there are only 19 views of this video????
kathleenirish 3 years ago 4
Because it is only 36 Hours online . . . wait and see, it's just great music that kept ist power for so long, i am sure it will go on . .
Slowtubbi 3 years ago 13
@Slowtubbi Still going on, and on... Sheer quality never dies.
apmqapmq9 1 year ago
@kathleenirish People have pathetic taste in music that is why!!
donmagicjuan1000 2 years ago
@kathleenirish 55 000 now. :D
TheRandomChicken1 1 year ago
@kathleenirish Unfortunately, most people are YouTubing Katy Perry, Black-Eyed Peas, eminem etc.
codb0y11 8 months ago
@kathleenirish See?, it''s 78,115 now. If it were a video, it'd be more.
drawlbag 3 months ago
@kathleenirish 81k now :D
CodxMasterxJoey 1 month ago