Fascism's Black Date - Documentation - 1/5

[Beulah502]

I can not understand how Germany was seduced by all this

[MrTruthAddict]

This vid = Christian revisionism

Hitler was a devout Catholic. The Christian church knew full well what Hitler was up to and they endorsed it. After the war was over, the church helped Nazis escape to South America.

Hitler made his recruits swear allegiance to the fuhrer by placing their hand on the bible. He made them wear belt buckles which said "Gott Mit Uns"

Where ever mass slaughter is, the religious leader is not far away. Patriotism is always wrapped in a flag and carrying a cross.

[BenTheBold]

@MrTruthAddict

Hittler was in no way a devout Catholic. You have been mislead. I used to think this as well. That is because many people with an agenda have mislead you. Please read what is considered the leading modern book on Nazism by Richard Evans, the Coming of the Third Reich. The Catholic Church was guilty of looking after their survival in Germany, rather than the greater good. In this regard, you are correct. But these were Pagans. Hitler stated that he wished to discard Morality.

[MrTruthAddict]

@BenTheBold Hitler, in his own writings says he was a Christian and believed that God was on his side. He was anything but pagan. Nazi ideology had a lot in common with America. At least the type of Christianity that was popular in America when they were slaughtering Natives. "Manifest Destiny" was the belief that God was on the side of Americans and that it was gods will that natives die. Fascism comes wrapped in a flag and carrying a cross. Ask the Jews or Native Americans.

[CyGothGuido]

i like the music. what is it?

[scatcoitus]

you can trust this documentary because it's made by a biased retarded camel jockey idiot.

[deceiver123m]

@scatcoitus so i assume you like authoritarian governments?

[Potts132]

@deceiver123m That seem kinda silly. Just cause you support something (Fascism in this case) doesn't mean that just cause something has one aspect of Fascism you will like it. I can assume that he hates the Soviet Union, which was authoritarian. Where as I love Liberty, yet i enjoyed living under the Soviet Union because of the economics of it. But that doesn't mean I will like a country just because it has liberty, or just because it is leftist.

[Potts132]

@scatcoitus No good documentary is objective.

[ofdoubtsandgod]

Just fro the record - I didn't get much beyond the opening few lines - it doesn't strike me as being particularly informed and mixes fascism with national socialism, imperialism and military dictatorship. I think it was the Falange party in Spain that was attacked/outlawed by Franco. Perhaps someone with more knowledge can put the record straight.

[Ilikenuman]

i just went to see a lecture by roger griffin with my college. hes a dynamic character :)

[14Srb88]

Im fascist and I want to protect my people,but Im orthodox and I do not consider anyone to be lower because of other race,I just want my people to exist 500 years from now and not to racialy mix with others... There is nothing wrong with that..

[Ilikenuman]

@14Srb88 you dont want your people to mix with others. heres whats wrong with that.

1. theyre not your people. they are individuals.

2. how are you going to stop them from mixing?

[14Srb88]

Here is what I think...

1. It is completely wrong to have a mindset of "individual" but rather a mindset of a one cell in an organ,and with that in mind,the whole society can work better and people can develope closer ties and sence of brotherhood (unlike today.....).

2. Who am I ? Im am responcible person thinking 50 years from now,and I am nationaly and racialy aware..

[Ilikenuman]

@14Srb88

1. freedom of mind is lifes only gift. without it we are reduced to the status of drones. nothing wrong with cooperation, but when disagreement is supressed, thats a crime against humanity.

2. nationality is bollucks. where you were born was an accident. and where you live is just a land mass that doesnt care about you.

[14Srb88]

1. Time is not on your side.

[Ilikenuman]

@14Srb88 people like you have had your time, and failed.

[ofdoubtsandgod]

@Ilikenuman - where you were born was not an "accident" but the product of your and a greater history. Where you live is not simply a "land-mass" but rather a part of this earth that should be special to you and looked after. Your point 1 I agree with...although life does give us "gifts" beyond freedom of mind and it could be argued that we aren't born with freedom of mind at all - this is something we achieve (or not)!

[Ilikenuman]

@ofdoubtsandgod

1. we dont acheive freedom of mind, we are born with it. but it can be taken away. Freedom is the natural/default state.

2. Why should it be special to me? what about starving people born in siberia, should they be proud? should siberia be special to them? im glad i was born here and not siberia, but to act like its something i should be proud of, like its some kind of great acheivement is bogus.

[ofdoubtsandgod]

@Ilikenuman

re 1/ In fact, biologically (DNA) and psychologically we are not born with "freedom" of mind. In fact the notion of "freedom" is a construct - which can exist in different states including the idea one is free to act and exist etc. Freedom is an ideal striven for in a civilised society.

[ofdoubtsandgod]

@Ilikenuman

2/ 2/ Where - pray - did I mention "proud"? I shall repeat myself - you were born "here" (wherever that is) because of a complicated process of procreation - presumably you wouldn't wish for that process to be other than it is (or you wouldn't exist!)? If I were born in Siberia (as any place) I would have a special relationship with the natural land that would be unique...others may come and also develop a special relationship. In a civilised world we take care of the land we dwell!

[Ilikenuman]

@ofdoubtsandgod

1. i think you and I obviously have a different conception of the word freedom so lets just agree to disagree there.

2. yes we should take care of the land we dwell in, but not act like some land is special and other land isnt. its all land, its all for the taking.

[ofdoubtsandgod]

@Ilikenuman Yes - at least we both want "freedom" :)

Yes all land is unique - but we shouldn't take it from folk - unless you think the Americans just in their war against the natives!

[Ilikenuman]

@ofdoubtsandgod sorry i dont mean actually going and taking peoples land. im saying that we should allow people onto our own land and not be afraid to share it.

[ofdoubtsandgod]

@Ilikenuman If that is the democratic wish. I am about to become an immigrant but feel an instinctive unease at going to others' land. I ma not part of that land, culture, history etc but am married to a woman who is! In an ideal world we would all be free in the broadest sense - but as soon as freedom is given it seems we need laws and restrictions to curtail their excess!

[dmanroks7]

@14Srb88

responsible, rather.

[djnoah420]

my brother came running to me like his hair was on fire about this crap. people will believe anything no matter how much documented scientific evidence to the contrary.

[dackjaniels555]

Uneducated Bullshit.